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>> i'm angela rooi and we start the show just as we did yesterday with another batch of winter weather pushing across the country. all the way from the midwest to the northern reaches of new england. here is the latest. >> hi, guys. good to see you. let me tell you one thing that's good that we're not seeing here is and that is snowfall. there is plenty of snow on the ground. maybe one to two to three inches of snow. and today's storm system, at least for new york, is crashed. we're going to be getting is some dry air coming through. more mild conditions so we can
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expect much of the snowfall to be going and going and gone. that being said, this is not without a few hiccups. things were heavy this morning. but are they often heavy during the morning in terms of traffic? roadways again for the most part. airports we have some delays at jfk and laguardia. those will get better and certain certainly. >> president obama back. >> he ruled out new fuel efficiency goal s.
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>> cuts down on business's fuel costs which should pay off in lower prices. it's not just a win win. it's a win win win. got three wins. >> we are told that dems can't compete with republicans because republican ideals fit with the desires of their donor class.
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>> it's fascinating. back here in washington, people are bing watching house of cards, looking for, you know, dreaming of effectiveness. but washington is out of the ball game in part because of citizens united. the big money and power is shifting around the country including to silicon valley. i don't think the democrats and progressives have any choice the advisor is one of the shrewdest political operatives ever to come through washington and he has been out in california for a
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long time now. let's just eliminate all the middle men. let's put -- put them in a ring and let them go at it because that's sort of where we're headed. >> we should let rich people vote based on how they pay taxes. >> i think some people have suggested that. >> i think that's worth looking at. >> we have got a talented team. >> he does what he can. >> i think that's totally right. that was the big political story. the big policy story i think is jim's rather remarkable comments which i want to read to you, give you your thoughts and get
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yours. i probably shouldn't say this but i will. had we been transparent about this spying from the outset and said to the american people and their elected representatives, we have got to cover this gap, make sure it never happens again. here's how it's going to work, we wouldn't have had all the problems we have had. this is an extraordinary reversal. while everyone is welcome to change their mind, it's an admission. this is the same person as part of the intelligence community now jim is giving away the game and saying they should have been transparent from the beginning which i think means they were wrong to say they were wrong.
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don't you think this is a huge shift? >> no. i don't think it's a huge shift. i think he's defending -- he's doing what he has to do that. he's not protecting the fundamentals of the program. >> he's certainly not changing the approach but he has reversed what he said as recently as late last year that to discuss this would be bad. >> i think the politics surrounding it has changed. i don't agree with him. first of all it's a fantasy to think that it would happen after 9/11.
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the political pleasure that they're under about this to con seed -- to basically say we handled the spin incorrectly if we handled the public relations better, there would be no public outcry. that, to me, is an argument designed to undercut the disagreements that people have and the fears that people have. he compared it to fingerprinting. i think if he told every american he had to line up to be fingerprinted, there -- they would have a revolution on their hands. >> you know what i call that? >> an intellectual burden. >> we shouldn't give too much kree dance to the fact that he wants to get credit for making
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noise. i appreciate the point. i think that the clapper is still -- even if it's pr, he still exposed himself to having basically said something last year that wasn't true. that doesn't happen every day. i think the point on the program is important. >> it's a great debate and something we have talked about. even republicans have been leading voices which is a significant shift even from the bush days. basically means immigration reform, tax reform, tweaks to obama care is pretty much dead in the water. so focusing on stability is one way to put it. but they simply don't have the 218 votes.
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>> if they try to do something big it would hurt them politically. also mentioned a washington post abc poll. the american people didn't trust the republicans to have the right solution to the neighbor's problems. with that number the best thing that the republicans can do tactically between now and november is to disappear. >> it seems like boehner is trying to make that happen given the last budget battles. saying let's focus on democrats and obamacare and hope that plays out. >> if anybody can lead a strategy of disappearance it's john boehner. >> or disappearing acts. wanted to talk to you about the
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fifth anniversary. so speaking of the gop, what is their beef with this? >> oh, their beef is that barack obama proposed it and got it through the congress. i mean, that's basically it. was it perfect? no. was there a lot of waste in it? yes. is it 6 million jobs? no. if you read the fine print, what it says is 6 million job years. whatever that is. it's not 6 million jobs. >> ligke a light year. >> yes, a job year. but i think the thing that president obama did so
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successfully was to be calm at the beginning during the campaign, he projected a sense of continuity and wisdom beyond his years and beyond his station and he continued that with the -- with the stimulus program. and it was helpful. we have borrowed or spent $10 trillion in the last decade to try to dig ourselves out of what's been going on. for being level headed and doing what he could get done. >> i think nobody wants to play the dozens with you because you know how to deliver that
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intellectual burn. thank you very much. >> talk to you guys, soon. >> olympic update is next. we're rolling on, tuesday february 18. starts with back pain... ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines"
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>> mother nature is becoming as much of a factor as the young breakout athletes. he wz waxing boards for other riders. today he stood at the podium wearing the bronze for the u.s. didn't look back. came up short in her quest for a fifth olympic weather. the top american finisher was
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18-year-old michala shimpbs. jones is riding. don't hate me. the last two heats more medals take place tomorrow. 17. why are we tied with the tiny country? what is going oon? interesting development. the 10,000 k speed skating races tonight.
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>> american speed skaters were expected to do very well. they have gotten zero and they are -- we're blaming their suits. they went back to the suits they were wearing at the nationals and still getting no medals. it is a bad workman who blames his tools. >> i think it's an interesting debate. underarmor said it was supposed to make them faster. they didn't try on the uniforms until the olympic games. that is a problem. but if this is is a sport you do day in and day out you want to know what they're wearing. >> you wonder what it's like when they go shopping. do they buy things without trying them on and then get mad?
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>> that is exact -- >> that is so true. i would say that trying on what you're going to compete in is more important. >> that is an interesting point. >> do you agree or disagree? >> i don't think it has to do with what we're talking about. >> thank you. >> so it's not just howard? >> if you're getting burned time and time again. >> if you say i have gone skiing before. there is no relationship there. i have driven on the highway, but i'm not in nascar.
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>> she came back from the olympics. a team player. she attacked people on twitter. >> no redeeming qualities at all? >> we're talking about off the field, here. you want to see her change her approach here. >> i want her to be an all around team player. she's bobsledding. >> everything. >> can i just say my favorite take aare these puppies that olympic athletes are bringing? the adorable stray puppies. this champion is now bringing home four stray dogs plus the mother. it's been all over the place. miley cyrus has tweeted about it and other olympic athletes.
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>> the puppy pictures are beautiful. they are adorable. it reminded you of something you said yesterday. >> you take a puppy like this home for pet purposes and you give it a home? that's a win win. >> but you talk about puppies on the show for entertainment purposes. >> give us a like on this facebook thing. it's going to be big some day.
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>> time now to get caught up in the news cycle. one united passenger called it the scariest 25 seconds of her life on a flight from denver to billings, montana. people have been hospitalized.
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>> a few inches of snow. we barically noticed an asteroid that wizzed by the earth. not a laughing matter. 2 million mlgs. >> back here on earth, jimmy fallon hit it out of the park on the "tonight show" last night. all the big stars came out. some were scheduled and some were a surprise. >> to my buddy who said that i would never be the host of the "tonight show," and you know who you are, you owe me 100 bucks, buddy. you do. [ applause ]
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>> welcome to 11:30, [ bleep ]! >> i should pay up, too. i didn't think he would get there. tonight, jimmy welcomes jerry seinfeld and the great lady
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gaga. >> now we transition from funny to inspirational. a woman who seemed to have the perfect life until one day everything changed. >> i called my older brother and was like brigette, i want you to ask him this question. ask him how many men have you had sex with. >> you went to your husband and said how many men have you had sex with. what did he say? >> he said two. >> brigette and john eventually divorced. she sued him for fraud and the judge awarded brigette a staggering $12.5 billion. >> after brigette gordon sued her ex-husband for giving her hiv, she picked up the pieces, moved on with her life and decided to have a baby. her daughter is a healthy little girl. her life transformation inspired her to create a foundation that helps other women who have
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contracted hiv. brigette, my cousin and my hero is here with us today. welcome to the show. >> thanks,ening la. >> i wanted to talk to you about how you picked up the pieces and what you would now tell women who have found themselves in the same situation, hiv positive after living a farry tale life. >> as i take a deep breath, the first thing is take a deep breath and start to look for help. that's the hardest thing is figuring out what to do next. look for help. find a doctor who is an expert in hiv and aids and start finding your way and just remember that you can do
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everything that you wanted to do before you were diagnosed which is what my doctor said but i didn't believe her but it' work. >> you were depressed and had ptsd. i wonder how you got past that if you actually have. >> you know, it is a journey and part of it is the shock of it all. some of it has to do with the disease itself. it depresses the immune system but also depresses your psyche as well. again, therapy is very important and working through, you know, what happened and how you, or how i got to the space where i was diagnosed with this disease. and eventually getting to
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acceptance. the fear that a lot of people have is the judgment and stigma and believing that you will not be accepted. it takes a little work and it takes just being present every day. >> when you write about that and the role of therapy that you were for, important for you as other, what we consider physical help, you write that others are not so fortunate. tell us about that and how that relates to some of the advice you give. >> i had the ability to pay. a lot of insurance policies don't necessarily pay for mental health treatment or they had a limited number of suggestiessio you can have. when you're diagnosed with something that is life altering,
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pretty much any disease, you have to have someone who can guide you. someone who is objective and not in the heat of the battle with you. that was who my therapist what and is. challenges come up err day. i'm probably biased but everybody needs to have someone who they can have discussions with that are confidential, that they trust, who will give them really good solid feed back. >> i have to say being able to come out and tell your story, so brave. i'm so moved with your interview with oprah and now you're devoting a lot of your life to a foundation and to helping women overcome a similar situation or
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women that never thought they would find themselves here. >> my lifeline was about the medical team and the therapy. and eventually being able to be in acceptance and be comfortable with where you are and moving forward. for me, every time we talk about itd, there is some healing that happens. just focusing on not necessarily where it came from but what are you going to do next. once you can accept this, your life is going be so much better than you ever thought it could be. even before you had the
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diagnosis. that has been my experience, fortunately. >> wow. >> brigette, we thank you so much for joining us today. please give nina a hug and a kiss for me. >> i will. i will. she sends her love. >> up next, redefining what it means to be liked for a whole new generation of young people. a sneak peek. >> the icons of this generation are the like button, tweet, reblog. this is the biggest transformation that we have had in terms of communicating with consumers in our lifetime -- in our lifetime. hey guys! sorry we're late.
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>> you can bet the makers of a lot of products we just mentioned are counting on it. every preference or click is a potential marketing opportunity. a new front line opportunity examines how some are driving profits online. many are oblivious to their roll. let me start with a clip from your piece. >> are they about you or the profile picture? >> they don't know whether they are emote iing somehow in your
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report. are you finding it is shifting people's identities? >> it's interesting. the teens at the beginning of the show, they're from a nice upp upper, they kind of take it with a grain of salt and understand that even if they don't know too much about it they have got the uneasy sense there is corporations behind all of the interfaces and running all of the plat forps that may have agendas that we on the outside don't really understand. >> so, isn't it possible, though, that the social media users can also be using the corporations and these big branding campaigns? if you -- >> absolutely. >> a certain number of youtube subscribers, you get a check from you tube.
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could it be that they are also using the brands? >> what we're say something that the social lives of young people are really guided by social networks. but we can also say okay, so now social media marketing infuses their social interactions. . it informs the decisions they make about what kinds of shows and media they like and what they don't. it turns what had been a childhood, you know, into a strange kind of professional occupation. >> absolutely. you talk about the person who calls themselves a professional
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fan girl huge online. let's show a little bit of hip. >> what i like about things, i think people really relate to that. >> when he went to see one direction in concert last summer -- tyler, professional fan, had quite a few fans of his own. >> the interesting thing about traditional celebrities, for a fan, they run up to me in the street and they're like, they act like we are friends. part of the reason why a lot of people relate to me is i am just one of them. >> a lot of people are trying to do what tyler did. how do you get to be a star online? >> it takes a lot of luck. i mean, tyler oakley is proof that it can happen just as the lottery is proof that it can happen to you. there are hundreds of millions of kids out there who are trying
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to get likes and reaching out to beyonce and oreo and coca-cola in the hopes of getting retweeted by one of the brands. if one out of a few hundred thousand or a million of them, they retweet, they dub a ministar, if beyonce puts a second of you in her half game show on a video screen like she did last year, it's proof that you can do it. but what you end up with are hundreds of thoses of millions of kids tweeting and liking and following and favoriting all for the chance to get noticed by a celebrity. >> there is really this instant gratification, i have two young sisters that are so involved. you wait to see how many people retweet, like it, we all know what selfies are. how do you see this impacting this younger generation? it's already been 14 minutes and
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my new selfie only has 117 likes. sob sob. >> it changes how they express themselves online. you know what it's like to play for ratings. >> we don't get that. >> you don't. of course you don't. this is msnbc. there is other stations with maybe higher ratings that do. you saw a girl who starts out on youtube becomes more of a pin up girl because she gets more hits for a bathing suit. >> for young people it goes into how they fit in and really goes to their selfie confidence. >> we're out of time.
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>> when you think of powerful political couples, bill and hillary, ronald and nancy and of course john and abigail adamsment one couple you might not think about are the nixons. their relationship was so much more than meets the eye. you see a man who lost not only a wife but a friend and a
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partner. a side we rarely saw while he was in the white house. he would never truly recover from her death now delves into the ups and downs of the 53 year long marriage. i really loved this book. it is so great to have you here. nixon has been described as the guy with no game who got the hot girl. i love that. and the "new york times" review, it was described certain stha she was out of his league, nixon wrote notes like this. i would like to so very much see you any time you might be able to stand me. and ultimately he won her over. >> he did. >> he used the same persistence that he used to win seven political campaigns. he just kept going. and actually after six months of
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knowing each other she went away for three months and disappeared. found out she was back in town and started again to pursueher. he never gave up on anything. >> their bond as you doumd, he relied on her so much for both personal and professional items. let's take a listen as he really needed her support. >> okay. >> she was really, really raving about your visit that come fs fm the heart. that's what they wanted. >> your toast was great. >> well, it wasn't really hard. >> i know. >> i got across the point. >> it was just right. just what they like to hear. >> you hear a hesitance in his voice and you hear her supporting him. >> he always considered her to be the stronger partner. he felt he couldn't have done anything he did without her
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beside him. there were many times she was his backbone during campaigns when he lost hope. >> surely watergate was the most difficult moment of his life. how did their relationship help both of them get through the moment? >> they decided not to talk about watergate for the last year. they felt it was so stressful if they spent their time on other things that were calm, they would help each other by just their presence. you could argue if pat had known mo more, she may have tried to intervene. it was cokeep it quiet. >> what was the one thing that you learned in doing all this research that surprised you most about nixon and their marriage? >> the thing that surprised me most about nixon was what a tender and sentimental man he was.
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the fact he had such a warm heart towards his wife surprised me. for her, it was her strength and also the fact that she really was a great supporter of women's rights around the world. i learned a lot about that that i thought people ought to know. not only in the united states where she supported women running for politics, but also around the world where she tried to help lift the position of women and get them invited to events they hadn't been to before. >> such an exciting read and so many pictures. thank you so much for being here. we really appreciate it. up next, 50 years after president lbj signed the civil rights act, there's still work that needs to be done. [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one.
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every black history month, i spend some times watching "eyes on the prize." you cannot go where you're going if you don't know where we've been. this one is a particularly important one for reflection. public law 88352 became the law of the land. of course, we know it was the result of great sacrifice, protests and boycotts by many. after the assassination of many civil rights heros and more jailings and beatings, the laws of the land for long overdue for change. the u.s. house of representatives passed a final version of the civil rights act on february 10th, 1964 and that bill went to the senate.
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while the final iteration was ultimately different, it was the bravery and courage that led to the measure making its way to lyndon b. johnson's desk for signing. i am reflecting on this critical process today because we can no longer impede progress, because the frightening thing is the issues that brought about johnson's signing of the civil rights act are still present with us in 2014. so now what? sure, we can march, but a march is not the end. it is a collective means to an end. we must organize our thoughts, our bodies, and our resources to make change. we must do something different. we must use tools at our disposal. there are organizers and influencers all over this country and together we can make a difference. the best way for us to
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commemorate the passage of this historic act is to pass another civil rights measure because the battle for civil rights equality is not over. it's far from over because people are killing our children with little to no recourse. it's far from over because there are more than 11 million people who deserve a path to citizenship. it must include income quality, voting rights protections, gun safety, criminal justice reform, educational access, housing affordable, labor union protections, and the list goes on. and we must take it a couple of steps farther. we must implement this agenda on the federal, state, and local levels. this is not a black thing. in fact, my ability to fulfill my dream and the ability of
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future generations to fulfill theirs is in your best interests. when folks say it is not longer about civil rights, it's about silver rights, i have to disagree. if you're weary of fighting for your right to vote, if you are angry because your paycheck is less than your counterparts, if you're exhausting trying to ensure that your kids have the same education with less resources, then i beg you to stand your ground because we have work to do. what do we want? justice. when do we want it? now. no justice, no sleep, folks. that does it for us. it is time for "now" with alex wagner. day 11 of the olympic games and the clash between putin and his people continues. it is tuesday, february 18th,
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and this is "now." >> the first olympic ice dance gold medallists every from the united states. >> we came, we saw, we conquered. >> two members of the punk band pussy riot have been taken into custody. >> the man who ended america's 62 year medal drought. >> the russians have affirmed they're going the help out assad in syria. >> russian relations with syria. >> nothing is going change in this particular picture without russians deciding if it is in their best interests. back in the former ussr, in the biggest political disruption of the