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i'm abby huntsman, live with new details as they break. the networks of nbc are the only place you're going to see olympic history. we're back with all the winners and the stories you won't see anywhere else. the heat is on. new jersey governor chris christie hosts his first town hall since bridgegate broke. there's a february thaw here in washington. i hear it was hot, hot, hot in jersey today. and cycling out of control, it's red hot in 43 states and that's a welcome change. i'm angela rye here for krystal. somebody just won almost half a billion dollars thanks to powerball. cha-ching. cycling now we start today in ukraine where it is the
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deadliest day yet in three months of protests. on the left, you can see the scene in kiev's independent square. on the right, the same scene earlier today. last night's truce crumbled as radical activists fired on riot police with fire bombs. richard engel was there. >> reporter: protesters turned this hotel lobby into a field hospital. we've seen volunteers using bed sheets to try and treat the wounds and some of the injuries appear to have come from live ammunition. the hotel lobby quickly turned into mayhem. no supplies have been stored here, the injured given care on the floor. we watched at least three protesters day. >> protesters say 70 people have been killed today alone. more than 500 others are hurt. the government says 67 police officers have been captured by protesters. 13 are dead since november. now the white house is weighing in, saying it is, quote, outraged by the images of
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ukrainian security forces firing automatic weapons on their own people. we urge them not to get involved in a conflict that can and be resolved by political means. the political jockeying is in full effect for influence over the situation, france, germany and poland met with both sides separately today. the eu is preparing to levy sanctions against the government within hours. that decision comes after an emergency eu meeting and russia is warning the ukrainian government not to be a door mat. another big concern, neither the president nor the opposition leader seemed to be in control of the chaos. this is now a battle for the future of ukraine, a country with divided loyalties. there's the richer industrial east side that allies itself with russia and the poorer west which leans more towards the eu. that's is where we are seeing most of the protests. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin. steven is now a senior fellow
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for russian and eurasia studies. let's start with ayman, before we jump into the current conflict, i think it's important we decide the divide, east versus west. explain how this plays into it. >> well, ukraine is divided geographically and territorially. it is one continuous country but no doubt there are differences, ethnically, culturally between the eastern part and the western part of the country. the western part has had a european influence, looking for historical roots. the east has been, for the most part, oriented towards russia. obviously the entire country was at one point controlled by the sof empire. no doubt be with the long history of the western part of that country was geared more towards europe. what we are seeing now, this
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divide, which began over a political decision by president yanukovych to keep ukraine closer to russia than it was to the european union has morphed into something much wider than that. there are fundamental issues of corruption, human rights abuses, a lot of things that span the entire country. the root of this was in a political decision to take ukraine away from europe and shift it more closely to russia. >> well, steven, on that point, it's been three months and this has grown from a conflict over the ukrainian president strengthening ties with russia now to thousands of protests and dozens dead. but it's now so much more than this. >> the ukrainian government handled this with unbelievable incompetentence, clumsy, brutal. the confrontation has escalated time and again because of the use of force by the government. beatings that started when the demonstrations were actually starting to peter out.
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then a use of force where the government was trying to crack down but pulled back. then the imposition of new laws that were going to curtail freedom of assembly and all of this has escalated passions on both sides, made the protesters less likely to compromise, made the government more fearful, either of cracking down or of reforms. so you're at an impassion. now it looks so me as though there's not a good chance of resolving this short of a change of government. >> when people think about why they should sayre about this country ukraine, you were ambassador at large, dealing with it as one of the break-aways from the former soviet union and as one of the largest economies out of those nation states. it's different than some of these countries that we think of as having a lot of unrest, the unemployment rate is not that high. the youth population is not that large in contrast to some of the
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middle eastern countries. help us understand what kind of country this is in its demographics and its economy. >> it's a divided country but for 20 years those divisions have oddly produced a kind of democratic result. there's been a disposition to a kind of compromise and awareness that everybody can't get their way entirely. now that is eroding and you have a kind of radicalization of positions, antipathies, people feeling maybe the country can't hang together. overlaid on that is a kind of geopolitical grudge match. russia is looking to re-assert its influence over ukraine. europe and the united states are committed to the principle that countries of the former soviet union that want to associate with the west should be free to do so. they're not going after them. but the principle has been, if you want to be with us, you
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can't be stopped by the russians. so there is this pushing and shoving between the big powers over whether ukraine gets to choose on its own. >> ambassador, it's jonathan here. i'm struck by the difference in response by president obama between his response to what's happening in syria and the response happening -- to what's happening in ukraine whereas the president has been uber cautious about his comments about assad and what's happen 23in syria. he and the white house and his administration has been forceful about what's happening in ukraine. what accounts for that? >> there is an awareness that western policy has been disorganized in dealing with ukraine. the europeans seem to think that ukraine would just fall into their lap. that it would be interested in an association with them and would be prepared to defy the
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russians. now the eu and the u.s. are seeing that they overestimated their own strength. and they're trying to find ways of getting more actively involved. that isn't just a matter of rhetoric. you've got the foreign ministers of france, germany and poland in kiev today, trying to broker a deal between the opposition and the government. >> so ayman, i want to ask you about the four team members that have pulled out in protest. and in solidarity with the folks in ukraine. others tried to wear black arm bands in solidarity with what's happening. how much of an impact will this really have in sochi, given what's going on in ukraine? >> well, there's two important components to it. the olympics are taking place in russia. there's a symbolism behind that as we heard from the ambassador there. russia has an important role to play in ukraine, whether it's
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positive or negative. no doubt the statement will be made. there is always the question that the ioc has been clear about, whether you can use the olympic games for political statements. we saw that not only with this ukrainian issue but also with the issue of gay and lesbian rights before the olympics. the ukrainian athlete, the skier who withdrew from competition today made clear she was doing it in solidarity with the crisis happening in ukraine. as her countrymen or being killed on the streets it was not right for her to participate in an athletic competition, from her perspective. this goes to show you how much the ukrainian issue does not only affect people in ukraine. it's an international crisis, because of the countries involved, russia, western europe, the united states. the implications ukraine has is a linchpin between the east and the west. >> given the fact that it is an international issue, what else
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can we expect by way of a response. >> the american policy has been focused on denying visas, on verbal condemnation. to my mind the real test for the u.s. and the eu is going to be whether they can try to put together kind of an assistance package for ukraine that would help a new government succeed. i think we're clearly moving toward a new government here. this is -- not a situation that can be sustained easily. president yan coach itukovych i an unraveling of his regime. the mayor of kiev resigned today. you've had other resignations, you've had turmoil in the provinces. so that this is a -- there's going to have to be a new political formula to re-create stability. when that happens, the u.s. and the eu have got to get behind this effort and try to help a
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new government succeed. >> sounds like a long road ah d ahead. steven and ayman, thank you so much. >> pleasure. straight ahead, we're in sochi. we'll find out what it's like to be an olympic winner from someone who knows very well. his cousin just took home the gold. stick with us. as a working mom of two young boys life could be hectic. angie's list saves me a lot of time. after reading all the reviews i know i'm making the right choice. online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time. with honest reviews on over 720 local services. keeping up with these two is more than a full time job, and i don't have time for unreliable companies. angie's list definitely saves me time and money. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today. ♪
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the ice and in the half pipe. here are the latest results from today's events. there's your warning, spoiler alert. the women's gold medal hockey match just wrapped up. for the first time in olympic history it was decided in overtime. unfortunately it didn't go america's way. after being up 2-1 with less than a minute to go, canada tied with 54 seconds left then in sudden death overtime, canada scored the go-ahead goal on a power play, taking home the gold for the fourth consecutive olympics. >> yikes. >> maddie bowman took home the first ever olympic gold in women's freestyle skiing half pipe. she scored an 89 on her first run and no one could match it. france took home the silver and japan the bronze. this is russia's first gold medal in women's figure skating today, dethronie inine ining kih korea. gracie gold, she had the best american finish with fourth
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place. >> close. >> here's your current medal count. the u.s. is leading with 25 and russia has 23. the dutch, norway and canada round out the top five. >> norway. >> joining us now from sochi is mike wise, sports columnist and my colleague from "the washington post." what happened to the u.s. women? they were up 2-0 in the third period. >> this is one of the most heartbreaking ends to a hockey game, to any sporting event i've ever covered. they were ahead two goals with over three minutes left. canada scored another time. 2-1, now with about 1:26 left, canada pulled its goalie. the u.s. shot down the ice. they literally hit a post. missed the goal by probably two centimeters. canada goes to tie in the final minute with 54 seconds left and they win on a power play in overtime. this is about as heartwrenching and soul crushing a loss as i've
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ever seen. as many people know, the u.s. women have never won gold at the games since, i think, it's '98 now. and in canada has essentially -- canada hasn't lost a hockey game in 12 years at the olympics. >> wow. before we let you go, we have to ask about your gold medal winning cousin. >> wait a minute. let me go? i just got here, jonathan. go ahead. >> talk about your cousin. >> you've given me a free promotion, david wise, my second cousin whom i'm much closer to now than before he won the gold medal, of course. a great story. it's based on my father's cousin's son. i was there for the whole thing. to see someone with your name on the gold medal board at the end of an olympic games is about as thrilling and, i don't know, heartwarming as you can get.
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i got emotional. my father's cousin, david's dad, got emotional. he's not a loser kid like jess spicaloe from "fast times of richmond high." >> i have to console the u.s. women. >> we'll talk to you later. >> all right. speaking of extreme sports, what makes olympic athletes like david weiss so fearless? scientific america is here to explain the science of the sochi olympics. michael moyer joins us now. i read this quote when i was on the plane about lindsey vonn. she said what's the point of being afraid? i've crashed a million times. if you go around being afraid, you're never going to have fun.
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where does that fearlessness come from? >> you look at the athletes. they're going up in crazy twists and turns in the air, the do downhill skiers, lindsey vonn types. they're going 90 miles an hour. ly lindsey has done a lot of sport in her life. it's the process of working through fear that draws them to the sport. it's not that they get up on the hill and their heart isn't pounding like the rest of us. they know how to deal with it and work through it. that's what they enjoy about the sport so much. >> you can relate to that. >> i can relate to that. a lot of people say if our tv show had a sister city, you know, the way some cities have sister cities. you know what i'm talking about? >> of course. i don't know where this is going. >> i know what you're talking about. >> kingston, jamaica would be our sister city. because of the flavor and vitality. this is not a joke video, a real
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video from the country of jamaica about, of course, the olympics, their bobsledding team. take a look at this. ♪ run the track ♪ run the track ♪ make room on the ice ♪ start out feeling nice ♪ you do we do it right ♪ to the right >> now, any country that puts out that as their official video gets big ups, obviously. and yet some of the articles in scientific america, you talk about how bobsledding is also one of the most dangerous sports. you talk about how speed is one of the key issues, key risk factors. and you have reference to micro-morts, a way to evaluate these different sports and risk lethality. >> micro-morts is a great unit of what is the chance you're doing to die.
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it's one in a million chance you're going to die doing it. >> but there's a chance. >> the average american chance of having an unnatural death sometime during the day, getting hit by a bus, something like that is one micro-mort. every day we have one micro-mort. >> this is a way to compare these different kinds of sports. what we do, going up to the hill to ski for a day, average day on the hill, that's an extra half micro-mort. bobsledding, they haven't done rigorous studies but it only goes up to 10 micro-morts or something. it's not like every time they go up there they're getting ready to die. it does increase their chance of injury. these people are olympians. they've been practicing their technique. shaun white knows what he's doing. >> speaking of rookies, i used to be a downhill ski racer with the national brotherhood of
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skier, not by any means olympic-bound. my dad went skiing one time -- i never had an injury -- went skiing once on the bunny slope and cracked his ribs. >> microrib. not a mcrib. >> not a baby back rib. >> just want to make sure you're not confused. >> i've fallen on the bunny slope, too. >> it's tragic. training also plays a part in confidence but it also helps you practice, right? practice is a big piece of this. if you haven't practiced within certain environmental factors that would also, i assume, increase injury. it's so different than if you're a rookie on the bunny slope cracking a rib versus going against environmental factors, right? >> look at the downhill skiers. they were skiing in all kinds of conditions, fog, ice and slush. we've had stories about sochi how the ice and the snow has been a real problem. >> yes. >> they've been going out with
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salt to melt the snow so that it then freezes so it gets icy so it's fast enough tore them. these are one of the things the professional athletes have to deal with, they have to deal with the changing conditions. it's not like hockey or curling, where you know it's going to be the same every single time. when you're a downhill skier, you're doing at it 09 miles an hour. >> i don't know if i ever hit 90 but fair enough. >> i'm fascinated by the jumps and the swins of t s >> i'm fascinated by the jumps and the swins of tpins of the f skaters. if i would go out there and try a triple salchow, i might have a 100 micro-mort chance of death. >> you see them great ark l axe triple lutzes.
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you'll hear how they get out momentum. they're often out like this with their arms and legs out far, they click the heel or the toe of their skate and then they'll do this as tight as they can. notice their legs are crossed. when you come in like this, your momentum has to stay the same but momentum depends on how much inertia you have out here. when they pull it in real tight that's when they can flip it around like you see. if i tried to skate backwards, i'd be the one withcy 100 micro-mort chance. the triple lutz totally out of the question. >> michael moyer, thanks. >> thank you. up next, half a billion reasons to move west. dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years.
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someone in california took home the $425 million jackpot in last night's powerball drawing. the winning ticket was sold at a bay area gas station and the owners just took home a fat check for $1 million. but we still don't know the winner of the actual drawing. i'll tell you about another winner, jonathan, science. this january came in as the fourth warmest winter on record. take that polar vortex. it was more than a degree above the 20th century average. mind you they started keeping these records in 1880, also worth noting this is, of course, a global average. the eastern u.s. was colder than normal. if you've been watching the cycle or been outside, you may know about that. >> that is very true. if you stepped outside, you know much of the country is experiencing a much-needed thaw. it feels nice out there. from chicago to new england, the rare above normal temperatures are causing a lot of melting and fast. that is leading to flooding concerns. there are also severe storms pushing to the east, expect a rainy day in the new york area. tomorrow, blizzard conditions through the midwest and a whole
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new round of cold air for next week. now to politics and chris christie who had his first town hall meeting since the bridge scandal broke. he answer unscripted questions about hurricane sandy relief funds and made it clear anyone asking a question should stay on task and off the scandal. an early warning he referred to as rule number four. >> i want to remind all of you of something. with the possible exception of some of the media who is here to cover this today, all of us are from new jersey. and so you know what that means. what that means is if you give it, you are getting it right back. >> the event falls on a day when several new developments in the bridgegate story occurred in just 24 hours. 2,000 pages of documents were relesioned that raise more questions about who knew what. joining us now is a man who knows a thing or two about new jersey politics.
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the host of "up," steve kornacki. this town hall went on with no interruptions about any chris christie-related scandal. but has the governor weathered the storm or do you have more breaking news for us? >> breaking, steve. >> i have the big let me take this document out here. no, nothing like that. but, look, what you saw if you watched the whole thing, you saw a little bit of what you saw in the hour and 48 minute press conference back on january 29th. chris christie can be a charming guy. he can think quickly on his feet. he likes to work a room. that was very much on display. there was one question that got tricky for him about this canceled contract, this canceled $68 billion contract where there was -- prompted some noise in the room and christie talked around it. otherwise, no direct questions about the bridge thing, no direct questions about hoboken.
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that said, you go to a town hall meeting like this and handle it relatively decently, doesn't put this to rest at all. there are all these other processes that are in motion right now that are going to decide whether this thing is put to rest or not. >> i have to tell you, steve, i looked at an event like this and thought it was concerning. when you look at the factual review we've been doings is reporters, we don't know the whole story and this process has to play out. in the legal process you're entitled to some presumption of innocence. in the political process, the voters and media will take a look at these relations -- allegations. we know people on chris christie's team have done deplorable things and have resigned over it. when you have a governor get up in front of a crowd and say you're going to get it right back. he's put up advertisements
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proudly saying look at how i yelled at someone. we know to some degree this scandal has got his career in the balance. i don't think it's a fair or, frankly, acceptable way for a governor to present himself even if he is ultimately exonerated or we don't find anything that goes directly to him. he wants us to look at the time he's spending on sandy when it's not only sandy. he's spending a lot of time telling people his constituents, don't ask me questions about this issue. now here's the sound from today. >> today, and we are now 16 months after sandy, i still spend every week about 40% of my personal time on sandy. >> his personal time i would argue if he gave a full accounting he's spending time dealing with this investigation and not always providing all the information requested.
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>> yes, there's a lot there. i think people have learned at a certain point these town hall meetings aren't fair fights for anybody who comes in with a critical question of governor christie. governor christie, at least the way it's worked in the past is, he'll shut you down pretty quickly. he'll do it with authority and the crowd will rally behind him. that's one of the things that these youtube moments draw their energy from. it really -- the content of the exchange is completely lost and stylistically it ends up looking like a crazy person in the crowd with irrational concern and then the common sense governor being like, yes, i've had enough of this. the interesting test and the interesting question is as this scandal unfolds, as we learn more, if it gets closer to chris christie, if he holds an event like this and if somebody stands up to ask a critical question and the crowd doesn't for once rally to his defense, i think that will be the clearest signal
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that the temperature is changing on this. >> you know, steve, you're right when you say that these town halls are not fair fights. but do you agree that they allow chris christie to do what he hopes folks will see him doing and that is acting normally? just going about his daily business as being governor. i'm speaking, politically speaking, that he's doing something where he needs to present this phase that, yes, i have this gigantic shadow over me and this big ugly grey cloud over me, but i'm not ledding it faze me. that's why you elected me by a huge margin. >> whether it's in the face of a scandal or just in general, chris christie from a presentation standpoint, stage craft, theatrics is never better than when he's in these settings. i can remember, it was about two years ago, fall of 2011, chris
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christie was flirting with running for president. he went out and did an event at the reagan library in california. nancy reagan invited him there. is he going to get in the race, is he not going to get in the race? he gave a 20-minute speech, prepared text, reading from the script. it was flat, boring, forgettable. then he opened the room up to questions. and it was like watching a flower blossom. suddenly, this is the -- he's cracking jokes with the people asking him questions. he's giving it and taking it from them. and that's -- i watched chris christie in new jersey for years before he ever ran for governor in 2009. i would watch him in settings like that. classes at rutgers, small events like that. he never impressed me with his formal speaking style but when i watch him like that, wow, it's a rare politician who can do that. >> yes. steve kornacki, thanks for getting up with us. up next, who's scared of the wolf of wall street? >> let me tell you something. there is no nobility in poverty. i have been a rich man and i
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a new book titled "young money" follows the lives of new wall street recruits as they struggle to survive in a post-crash world. kevin ruse, great it have you at the table. >> thank you for having me. >> talk to us about how the culture of wall street has changed, especially for the next generation. >> it's night and day. when i started writing this book in 2010 it was just after the crash. i died i wanted to follow eight first and second-year investment bankers at goldman sachs, jp morgan, the big firms. i wanted to learn why are these guys still interested in wall street? what's the appeal? i followed them around, went to parties. >> how were the parties. >> they were okay. >> a lot of banker parties are not as good as they were in the wolf of wall street days. generally, the culture is not as crazy as it was in the wall street days. it's a muted industry. pay is lower, firms are smaller.
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no one's doing lamborghinis and cocaine anymore. when the people i shadowed were taking drugs, they were doing that to stay up late and work mog. >> wall street doesn't have to be antithesis of meaningful change and having a conscience. are there signs that the new recruits are getting that and they're into making a difference and not just making money? >> that was one of the huge surprises for me, was that as i talked to these eight first and second-year bankers, a lot of them expressed sort of moral misgivings about what they were doing. i remember talking to one guy who was working at goldman sachs. he said, you know, i just don't know what i'm adding here. like i want to create something. i think occupy was a big turning point for that, because it forced them to sort of think about their work in moral terms. they couldn't clock in and clock out. when you have protesters outside your window, you have to think
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about what you're doing with your life. >> kevin, it seems like every generation we're reading that, you know, this generation's new batch of wall street recruits are somehow different than the generation that came before it. yet we keep seeing generation after generation making the same mistakes that the generation before it had made. so is it possible for change to come to an institution when it's clear that change can only come from really nibbling at the very edges of that institution? >> i think so. i think change is possible. i think it's going to take a long time. there are different kinds of change, of course. there's structural change and regulatory change. and i think, you know, we can deal with that on sort of a governmental level. the actual recruits themselves are changing. it's a different breed. i think that the recruiting climate is different now at some place like penn, wall street isn't far and away the biggest employer anymore. more and more people are going into tech to teach for america. it doesn't have a monopoly on
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ivy league graduates the way it used to. >> in politics we set rules on certain industries, because we think they can do more harm. you've written a book here that has a cultural lens. right? >> right. >> do you think ultimately this culture that you have been studying and spent time around, has it right and the right balance or is off base in its values? >> it's off base. i don't think the financial industry has been totally healed since the crisis. some of the same problems are still there. they'll need to be fixed through more and better regulation. i think that's very important. i wanted to take a cultural lens and say who are the people who are actually -- you know, we know what the ceos are doing. we know what the billionaires are doing. what are the people in the trenches doing and how are they different from their predecessors? i think what you're seeing, people care about this stuff. they want to feel like they're doing good for the world even when working at an investment bank. that's changed the way the banks have had to recruit. >> interesting book.
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"young money." thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. within we come back, the state of media. let's face it, guys, it's complicated. . turbocharged engines against...engines. . best in class rear legroom against other-class legroom. but then we realized. consumers already did that. twice. huh. maybe that's why nobody else showed up. how does one get out of a death cage? vo: hurry in and lease the 2014 passat for $189 a month. visit vwdealer.com today.
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million daily users. many young people who use their phone to text more than make phone calls. according to a new book it's complicated, the social lives of network teens, young people use these tools differently than their parents. students are more attentive to the collapse of context which makes some online interaction so unpredictable and they're also both more social and more nua e nuanced about privacy. six out of ten teens keep their profiles private and have edited or deleted context. boyd's worked as a researcher for google, yahoo! and intel and currently serves as principle researcher sat microsoft. it's an honor to have you here. >> honor to be here. thank you. >> you have a big bio. one of the things you talk about here is the structure
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affordances that different social media sites provide. they incentivize a certain type of behavior. >> it sticks around for a long time. you're constantly having to navigate the content you wrote for now in the future. that's why something like snapchat is so interesting. it changes that entiely or the idea that things become searchable. you have them searched out of context. that's fantastic for certain things, problematic for other things. all these other things end up scaling at unprecedented levels. you talk to five or ten people and all of a sudden it's being broadcast to hundreds, if not thousands. >> and because of that, there are real privacy issues that young kids, i could not imagine growing up in the world that we now live in. you make the point that parents should not be so judgmental of, let's say they find a photo of their child drunking beer under age, if someone else posted it, they can't protect themselves. they don't know who is taking
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pictures of them. we really live in that world. should we live life saying anyone can take a picture of us at any time. so we have to live perfectly. is going to be persistent, we have to think of every single act. there's no way. it's a matter of how do we ask critical questions? this is what i invite parents to do. rather than seeing something as automatically judging, use it to start a conversation, not just lou yao ear grounded but why are you posting this? what happens when a college admissions officer sees this? how might this be interpreted totally out of context? >> so in 2011, microsoft purchased sky 2012 facebook, facebook purchased instagram and mentioned in lead le"the lead," was purchased yesterday. when you look at these purchases there's a clear importance of social media and networking for the users and for the brands. i want to know given the way in which these platforms are used and how they kind of tailor
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their markets efforts, what expectations, if any, do users have about privacy when using them? >> privacy is a really comp collated issue. we usually think of it in terms of the access control issues. if you limb the content, it will solve problems with privacy. for young people, they're used to their parents looking over their shoulder so they have to deal with a different level of privacy. as a result, teenagers have gotten experimental at finding ways to achieve privacy in light of what's going on. my favorite thing they do is rather than trying to restrict access to continue ten, they focus on restricting access to meaning, they put up a song lyric. it means an in joke with their friends. >> their parents would forget or understand. >> you talk about a controversial term, thugish, and the story of a young african-american male who looked really good on paper in his college admissions application, right, then the admission officer said on the social media profile they thought the
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individual looked, quote, thuggish, and that changed their mind. you had a different interpretation. >> this was a young man living in south central los angeles and very much a gang-oriented community. he was very much signaling all sorts of gang affiliations. the assumption from the college admission officer that he must be lying to us. he must not really want to get rid of the gang environment he's from. but my interpretation was maybe he's trying to survive, deal with these different worlds simultaneously. he's trying to deal with his friends, his peers, his, you know, cousins, his extended family, all of which are gang afill yalted. that's a survival mechanism. that doesn't mean when he goes to college he wants to be associated in the same way. how do you deal with two different worlds simultaneously? >> i thought that was a fascinating story and one that makes you question how adults look at some of this stuff. thanks for being here. with your visit here we asked our facebook friends if they think social media leads to young people spending less time
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should be like a corporation. you pay a million dollars in taxes you should get a million votes. >> that was tom perkins, the legendary venture capitalist and now famous political lightning rod offering his brilliant idea that he wants to change the world. this is the same guy that provoked a firestorm last month comparing the persecution of jews in nazi germany to the weyrich people are treated in the united states. as you might imagine, there has been a ton of public outrage around his latest round of comments and rightfully so. total crazy town, whether or not he meant for the comments to be taken seriously. you know what's even crazier than his provocative comments? he's actually one step ahead of all of us, because the world he was talking about pretty much already exists. perkins' basic premise was that the more money you have the more influence you should have on elections, which to me sounds exactly like the system we have today. the influence of the megarich has dominated elections since the citizens united ruling in 2010. we know this.
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wealthy individuals and corporations have virtually free reign in their influence over elections. take 2012, the presidential election, for example. more than $2 billion was raised and spent. and this one just $5 here or $10 there. there were some huge spenders like casino magnet sheldon adelson who funneled nearly $100 million into 2012. a drop in the bucket for him but a heck of a lot of money to spend on political campaigns. or jeffrey katzenberg who gave president obama's superpac $2 million in 2012. these are just the donations required to be public. to think sheldon could have spent that $100 million on tom perkins' 289-foot yacht. look at this thing, the maltese falcon. that was recently sold for exactly $100 million. it even has its own customized submarine. but that is beside the point. i'm sure he has a few toys of his own. this is the point. we all might have one vote but most of us don't have the
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pocketbook full of cash to push our own priorities. it wasn't coincidence that president spoked a dreamworks last year, run by katzenberg, the classic i will scratch your back, you scratch mine. no one can honestly claim these enormous donations don't carry huge influence into our political discourse. it's easy to be outraged at perkins. i am. but recognize the reality. we are partly to blame for allowing our political system to exist as it does today. because at the end of the day money and politics just don't mix. at least influence peddling and bad outcomes for the rest of us. it's favoritism at best and outright corruption at worst. we can't stand for this. we are simply living in the world perkins is hoping for. our democracy might have us equal under voting laws but without an equal voice the rich get more and more influence and the rest of us, well, we get a washington that works for them, not for the people. that's it for "the cycle." time for alex wagner. thanks, abby. chris christie greets the
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people! just nobody say the word "bridge." it's thursday, february 20th, and this is "now." >> the embattled governor of new jersey. >> his first town hall since the bridge scandal broke. >> chris christie unscripted. >> all of us from new jersey. if you get it, you are getting it right back. >> document dump that could cause problems for another republican governor. >> did wisconsin governor scott walker's office mix politics with official business? >> there's no good that comes of 27,000 pages coming out if you are someone who wants to run for president of the united states. >> the substance of what each governor is facing is identical. >> like bridgegate. >> very close advisers did something unseemly, potentially criminally wrong. >> there's more down the road and we had that many e-mails. always problematic. >> christie aides refusing to turn over materials to the investigative panel. >> drip, drip, drip. >> -
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