all nonessential traveling to the ukraine. >> efforts are underway to try to find a peaceful resolution to this conflict. >> for the u.s. and europe, this has got to be seen as a positive already. >> whether or not this will really end the bloodshed and lead to change really is up to the influence of putin. >> the government's main ally, russia, is standing firm. >> what happens when the olympics conclude and the spotlight is removed? >> what does putin do next week? >> the fact is we don't have a lot of influence over putin. >> you're not hearing a lot from the white house what the stakes are in the ukraine. >> he is about to out maneuver us, some fear, in iran. >> what's the common denominator? vladimir putin. there are signs of hope in

kiev tonight after the ukrainian president and others have signed a truce. there are doubts. the deal promises the immediate establishment of a coalition government. it outlines limits to the president's powers and elections to install new leadership next year. so far the russian government, which remains the key player in this drama, has refused to endorse the agreement despite the fact that russians were in the room when the terms were outlined. the deal was signed two days after president obama warned of unspecified consequences if the bloodshed continued. >> we'll be monitoring very

carefully the situation. there will be consequences if people step over the line. >> that led some to declare those comments as another red line moment. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime, but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around were being utilized. >> since that threat was issued, the violence in syria has escalated significantly in one of the most humanitarian cris crisises on this president's watch has grown worse. 2,000 people have been killed by barrel bombs since january 1st. the death toll has climbed to over 140,000 and over 9 million

syrians have been forced from their homes. iran continues to boost its military support for the assad regime and the second round of peace talks has ended in failure. what makes the president's warnings of consequences in the ukraine any different? if this american president won't bomb damascus airfields to stop chemical weapons, why would mr. putin think mr. obama would do anything in eastern europe? he added, vladimir putin has played us so incredibly. this afternoon president obama was set to speak with president putin to discuss the situation as jay carney told reporters the two leaders share the same goals. >> russia's efforts on behalf of creating this cease fire and these agreements were obviously

welcome. the fact of the matter is it is in russia's interest for the violence to end in ukraine as it is in the interest of the united states and our european friends. >> while the white house may be doubling down on shared interests, the leaders share a different approach on power. joining me now is national security advisor for strategic communications. we're glad to have you here today. has the president spoken with president putin? >> yes, alex. the president spoke to president putin for about an hour this afternoon. they were able to talk about the situation in the ukraine. and president obama underscored

we have a significant opportunity with this agreement that would bring in a coalition government that would reform the constitution to reduce the power of the presidency. this gives a pathway towards a democratic outcome here. >> one would wonder what was the response on president putin's part? >> there were several european foreign ministers and the russians had a representative there. they're hoping to be a part of this process to move toward a political solution. the ukrainian people have to be able to choose their own future, that includes the elections that would be forthcoming of a new president. that also includes their orientation more broadly. we believe they do have a future where they are more integrated

with the east and west. these things don't have to be in conflict. >> isn't buying from the russians imperative here? unless i was involved in those deals, it doesn't mean i sanctioned them. >> thus far we have russian buy-in. the question is whether that's going to be follow through. we're going to be watching that closely. it's not as if mass public protest against an ally of russia is somehow a good thing for the russians, that this is some big victory for them. i think the russians recognize that this type of instability on their border is not a good thing. there is going to be instability unless the ukrainian feels they're needs are being met. we have moved to greater

consequences. we have imposed some sanctions with travel bans. we stand very ready to move to additional sanctions if we see the need to enforce accountability for the violence that's taken place. >> ben, i am not one to parrot the pages of "the wall street journal," but what does the word consequences mean to this white house? we play that tape of the red line comment from the president on syria. what is happening right now in syria is inexcusable and the president's talk of a red line seems to amount to -- i won't say a hill of beans, but something close to that. what does that word mean, consequences? >> it has to mean something that's not restricted to

military action. when i listen to these critics, the notion is if we're not going to war in a country, we're not doing something. so those sanctions would be consequential going forward. we're working in syria to power the opposition so they become stronger and we're working to get better humanitarian access. we want to see a resolution passed that would allow for humanitarian access across the border border. we're going to continue to pursue that policy in syria. we need to be very clear that

the u.s. government has to have tools that include military action, but they're not limited to that. we're serious about these things even if we're not going to war. >> i guess i would ask you, we have news that is the white house is revisiting its syria policy. you expressed to satisfaction certain parts of it, but the washington post reported yesterday that a senior official discounted reports any serious changes in the syrian policy. if that's not the case and you're not satisfied with where we are, what are we supposed to assume meaningfully in terms of syria policy? >> we have several lines of effort. we have one line of effort on

strengthening the opposition. that's something we do. that's something we do with our partners in the region like saudi arabia and turkey. we have the humanitarian challenge where we are the single largest donor. well over a billion dollars in humanitarian assistance. now we're looking at what new options are there to get assistance across the border. and with respect to the political process, we are going to remain engages on the basis that assad should not be in power in syria. we don't rule out options. we're constantly looking for a better policy. the point here is the situation on the ground is what the entire world is frustrated with and we're going to continue to look at ways we can improve the situation on the ground. that doesn't necessarily have to mean there's a formal announcement at one given time. every single day the president is asking us, are there things that we can be doing better? that's the type of process that we undertake here on a very

regular basis at the white house and with the administration. >> the red line comment was 18 months ago. do you believe that in the next 18 months the situation on the ground in syria will be dramatically improved compared to today? >> first of all the red line comment was about chemical weapons. we're getting chemical weapons out of syria. we're committed to seeing those destroyed. if we achieve that -- >> do you acknowledge there have been reports that there was another chemical weapons attack in january that the white house has said nothing about? >> we haven't confirmed additional chemical weapons events. if we can get those out and destroy them, that's a positive thing. in 18 months what we would like to see is a situation where there has been a transition in syria, where there's a new

governing authority in syria. as we pursue that objective, we have to strengthen the moderate opposition in that country. there are extremist elements in syria. we want to make sure the right opposition is empowered and that's the end-game that we're seeking to pursue. >> the world is a complicated place. thank you for tiaking the time o answer these questions. your reaction to ben rhodes and his articulation of where the u.s. with russia on negotiations over the ukraine and i guess more broadly in terms of how we're dealing with the russians on a host of issues? >> i think there's a shift that's been happening a number of years.

you kept asking what are the consequences. he kept talking about the minor things that the u.s. is working on. we're coming out of an era where the world was used to the united states being the world's police. obama, i think, came into office implicitly saying we're going to move away from that. in egypt and syria and ukraine and in iran, the u.s. is not the actor it once was. ben is not taking the case the u.s. should be the actor that americans are maybe used to. that's sort of the political shift that's happening domestically. if americans don't want to get involved in foreign conflicts, but have to come to terms we

don't have the leverage around the world. >> i was talking yesterday about the president's record on climate change and paraphrasing someone who had written about, we can judge this administration based on the reality or the threat of politics. you can mount the same argument on foreign political. we can judge the president's record on the number and the severity of the crisises facing him. as you point out, what he is dealing with in terms of the global stage right now is not unprecedented, but it's certainly quite a bit more than any other presidents have faced. statement, he is ham strung not just by republican congress, but if you look at the polling on war in journal, we're still in war in parts of the middle east. there's zero appetite from

americans on any intervention. >> i don't think it's just political with obama. i think absent the politics, obama still actually believes getting more of a conflict posture towards russia or iran would all actually be bad policy movements. i don't think you can see the president is ftrying to avoid military intervention because of domestic politics. he came to office and his political and foreign policy credentials were formed on interventions in the middle east that didn't go over well. he wants his legacy to be different. >> it's great to have you. coming up, governors from across the country descend on washington for a key annual

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house chief of staff on netflix "house of cards." >> i'm so happy to be here. >> i love how guests chime in. it's true. you are more than welcome to sit onset at all times. i'm happy to have you. i love the show. i'm an addict. i have to ask you given the number of real life situations or things that have gone down in washington that have become plot lines on the show, how closely do you guys follow what is happening in the capitol? >> i think most of us are interested in it anyway, but i think that -- i feel like our show is sometimes a step ahead of what happens -- we'll read a script and the next day it is happening in washington. >> right. >> we obviously have education reform, entitlement, all that stuff happens, but we've had the script beforehand. i think actually the show, you

know, obviously it's topical stuff that we pick up on. but it's really about washington and washington is about politics. it's about relationships and power and the search for both of those. there's some hideous relationships on our show and crazy relationships in pursuit of that power. that's the real truth. that's where our honesty really lies. maybe we don't have congressman that kill people, but those relationships are real. >> maybe we do. i wonder if it dismays you that washington mirrors so closely the plot lines. there are these hideous relationships, but they wouldn't be foreign. >> leaders of china are all tuned into this show and loving it because it is a fantastic

depiction of our politics. it is a little true. >> if there is a sort of silver lining in the hideous relationships, there is a silver lining in many part of the show -- we were talking yesterday there's a women in media report talking about how underrepresented women are. this show has become this oasis of incredibly powerful female conta characters. >> mostly i've done comedy. to play somebody so ferocious, but a character who uses her brains and also manages to somehow have huge balls underneath that skirt. am i allowed to say that? >> yes. >> the ball-brain combination is

so fascinating to play. >> there wdid you look to other of staffs? >> no. there are no women and no people of color. i read condi's book. i would watch videos of latin american leaders. you read don reagan's things and it's not the same as i would experience. there was no pure example obviously in that role, but it let me do my own thing. >> one of the things that i read about a character is david fincher, who is one of the executive producers, said keep claire quiet and still. there's a composure and a stillness that i think is very unique in hollywood.

>> i found that linda had a certain -- she has a certain stillness and elegance. for me it's interesting, because i feel as if linda -- she's latina. she can't allow herself to take liberties that men have all the time. that stillness and foundation is what these women all have to -- they can't let go of that at any point. they're using their brains all the time. >> i wonder if it makes you more sympathetic to women on the national stage when you are sort of occupying the roles of a very high powered female politician and you're cognizant of the discipline that requires. >> absolutely.

i heard the president on the show talk about isolation. you feel very isolated in that role too. incredibly powerful, just worthy of being in that room. i had scenes with kevin where the walls were shaking because he was just -- you'll see. i would leave the set and one time the makeup artist said, that was scary. i said, not for linda. give me your best shot. >> do you channel linda? >> linda says shut up. >> last question. in terms of -- this is a series with a lot of plot twists and turns and we were talking about this before this segment began, people have been judicious about letting the cat out of the bag.

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it is a four-day fest of hob knobbing and elbowing for power. governors from both parties are descending on the nation's capitol for their annual powwow.

>> this is not just good policy. it also happens to be good politics because the truth of the matter is the overwhelmingly majority of americans think that raising the minimum wage is a good idea. that is true for independents, that is true for democrats, that is true for republicans. >> who won't be going to the white house dinner on sunday night? governor chris christie who declined the invitation in favor of returning home early. christie is now one of several republicans trying not to exceed the baggage limit on his trip to d.c. he arrived offering the burden of bridgegate. if any republican governor could have hoped to gain from

christie's downfall, it might have been scott walker. that is until headlines like these dominated. they are the result of a trove of recently released e-mails showing coordination between walker's campaign. as questionable as those e-mails were, they were trumped by racist e-mails. there was this e-mail sent by then chief of staff to his deputy and other unknown recipients. quote, i can handle being a black, disabled, one armed, drug addi addicted, jew, but please don't tell me i'm a democrat. no damage there.

governor walker remained quietly defiant. >> unlike other issues that have come up lately, this is something that's passed. they're digging up stuff from the past. >> but the e-mails have just been made public now. joining me now is a former pennsylvania governor. scott walker doesn't seem to be that concerned. should he be? >> sure. he absolutely should be. scott walker is relatively new on the scene. there's stuff in there -- the insensitive e-mail that you just read is from his chief of staff. that's from the person he put in charge. that raises questions about

scott walker's judgment. scott walker may have known about these campaign schemes which sent, i think, four or five of his people to jail. if that comes out, that's very, very damaging, and he should be significantly concerned. he can't keep saying it's in the past because it is newly discovered evidence. >> the media has not been discussing these e-mails as they probably should, but also their meaning. gay people, latins, women, you name it. these racist e-mails matter. scott walker is the product of suburban milwaukee backlash politics. they helped make the area the

single most segregated place in the country. that's the context in which the chief of staff and the deputy chuckled over comparing welfare recipients to dogs. that's one i didn't read. you can bet he'll be asked about this and asked whether he was on the e-mail distribution list. >> if i were scott walker, i would create as much distance as i could from them because they're serious problems. they may not be problems in a republican primary, but i think they would be there, but they're certainly problems in an election for a governor seeking

reelection. he should disavow them in the strongest possible terms right now. >> governor christie minced no words about his staff following bridgegate and governor scott walker had not had the same sort of round public dismissal of his own staff. i wonder what you make of christie's strategy this week which is declining the dinner invite to the white house and limit engagement on the subject of bridgegate, although it continues to swirl in the ether. perhaps he should address some of these allegations more head-on. >> he can't win by addressing the allegations because much of what he said isn't very credible. it gets worse every day. every day i come home from work, i turn on our station, and i

listen to some of the new revelations not from msnbc people, but new jersey reporters. the idea they wanted to keep this going for a month, how cruel is is that? wanted to keep it going for a month? the idea that the port authority police would tell motorists blame the mayor. it's stunning. it keeps getting worse and worse. it keeps becoming apparent there are so many christie employees involved in this it just isn't credible for him to say he knew nothing about it and had no role in it. >> to move off of walker and christie scandals for a moment. if you look broadly at the position of many republican governors in this country, it is more progressive or they are more bipartisan in spirit and in letter than many of their

republican counter parts or colleagues in congress. there's that dynamic. conversely on the democratic side, if you look at what some of these democratic governors are doing, andrew cuomo, jerry brown in california, they are more liberal and progressive and further towards the left than hillary clinton and some of the front runners who have been discussed for the presidential race in 2016. how do you think that dynamic plays out on the national stage? >> well, understand first governors have a responsibility for making it work. they can't accept do nothing. they have to get it done. we're required to balance the budget in virtually every state but one in the union. it's a strong impetus to build

consensus. you saw the republican governor of wyoming and the legislator raise the gas tax without any hesitation. you saw the governor in pennsylvania raise the gas tax for roads and bridges. governors have to govern and they have to deal with real problems. they can't just have gridlock. it doesn't work at the state level, number one. number two, it's easy for the governors to be progressive because they have legislators that support their efforts. it's hard for president obama to be progressive because he has to deal with republicans in the house. it's like discussing apples and oranges. the good thing about our party is we have people at all ends of

the spectrum. we have people who are progressive and moderate conservative democrats, they're fiscally conservative. we have pro-life democrats. we have pro-choice democrats. that's one of the things that's so important about our party and it's prevailing year and year in national elections. >> we have mexican democrats and black democrats and gay democrats. they are all members of the democratic party and proudly so. >> a lot of disabled democrats too. >> yes and veterans. thank you for your time and thoughts. after the break, he does not like them here or there. he does not like them anywhere. ted cruz's latest dislikes. that's coming up.

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as a kid, green eggs and ham was my favorite book. sam i am. that sam i am. that sam i am. i do not like that sam i am. i do not like them sam i am. i do not like green eggs and ham. i do not like them in a box. i do not like them with a fox. you do not like green eggs and ham? i do not like them sam i am. in this page, he's holding green eggs and ham on a fork preparing to bite them. say, i like green eggs and ham. i do. i like them, sam i am. >> that was texas senator ted cruz during his fake 21-hour filibuster of a government

funding bill last september. a separate copy of that book signed by ted cruz sold for $1,000. despite t-- he seems to miss th entire point of the classic. we often end up liking the things we most expect to hate. cruz continues to add things to the list he does not like and the people who do not like him, including most, if not all, of his own party. mitch -- this week, ted cruz chose to characterize his fellow republicans who stuck their necks out to make sure the country did not default on its debt, like this.

>> that sort of show vote, that sort of trickery to the constituents is why congress has a 13% approval rating. >> it's unclear what he would call this behavior to begin with, but trickery might be a good word for that too. cruz declined to support mitch mcconnell. he said, i'm going to leave that election and every other incumbent election to the voters of their respective states. the senator decided to fly down to the battleground state of florida, but not before robert watson warned, the senator promises to invite negative media attention. welcome to the sunshine state, ted cruz. after a fundraiser last night,

cruz claimed he's following the lead of president ronald reagan by painting in bold colors not pastels. whatever color it is, you seem to be painting yourself into a very small corner. that is all for now. i'll see you back here monday at 4:00 p.m. eastern. good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> a controversial plan to market fracking in state parks is coming under new scrutiny. >> people start pollution. people can stop it. >> the top adviser called a meeting to sell ohioans on