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eat up. keep heart-healthy. live long. for a healthy heart, eat the 100% natural whole grain goodness of post shredded wheat. doctors recommend it. . the clock is ticking in arizona. will the governor there sign a bill that would give businesses the right to deny services to anyone they choose? it's a measure that's stirring protests. a live report is next. also a growing mystery in the ukraine. might this video provide at least one answer after days of unrest in that country? also what you might have
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missed when michael sam met the media yesterday. i'll talk to somebody who was in that room. and sarah palin is back. she has a new reality show. we'll let you hear at least the one line we're getting from her. it's high noon in the east. 9:00 out west wherever you might be. welcome to weekends. i'm t.j. holmes. alex witt is off today. let me give you a look was happening. battle lines being drawn in arizona. by friday of this week a controversial new bill could become law with a stroke of the arizona governor's pen. it would allow business owners to cite their religious beliefs when denying service to anyone. this has stirred protest from gay and lesbian groups and businesses in that state. republican senator jeff flake urging governor brewer to veto the legislation saying quote i hope governor brewer vetoes sb
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1062. that's what he tweeted. joining me now joe fryer. we have any idea at this point what the governor there might do and when she might do it? >> well, t.j., she told us she has not decided yet. she said it's her policy not to comment on legislation until she gets to see it and right now she's in washington, d.c. at a governor's conference but she does say we can expect a decision by friday. just hours after arizona lawmakers passed a controversial bill a few hundred angry protesters sounded off outside the state capital. they are upset with legislation that would allow business owners based on their religious beliefs to deny service to gays and lesbians. >> it feels like it opens the door for discrimination in a huge broad spectrum the way the bill is written. >> supporters argue the bill protests the religious rights of private businesses. >> this bill trim jadiscriminat
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against no one. >> they point to lawsuits around the country like washington state where a florist was sued after not providing flowers for a same sex wedding, and oregon where last month the state ruled a bakery violated the civil rights of a lesbian couple after refusing to make their wedding cake. >> you should not have to forfeit your religious freedoms and rights merely because you want to work or start a business in the state of arizona. >> but business is what might suffer some argue if the bill becomes law. >> we have four companies call us to tell us we'll be dropped from their list as a potential investment location unless governor brewer wes to the bill. >> a pizzaria in tucson is so upset they posted this sign, we reserve the right to provide service to legislators. >> for this latest bill brewer told us while in washington, d.c. she's not sure if she will
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sign it or veto it. >> i don't have to make a decision until next friday. >> she has plenty of voices trying to sway her powerful decision. some experts say the governor is in a tough spot. her fellow republicans pass this bill so, obviously, they want her to sign it. but arizona's governor is really trying to put an emphasis on growing her state's economy and trying to lure businesses, especially tech companies which is one reason so many in the business community are saying that she needs to veto it. >> what else could she possibly be doing? do we have an indication she was trying to get or will try this week to bring people in, get input from people on both sides. again she vetoed something like this similar a year or so ago. she knew this is coming. we're wondering what does she have left to figure out? >> from what i've read about her she's very meticulous about reading through things, studying, talking to people. we expect a lot of that. she did veto a measure very
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similar last year. she said she didn't feel this was the legislature should be addressing. there were more pressing issues. it's possible she could come up with an argument like that again. it's also possible a slim chance she could choose to do nothing and then over time it would become law on its own without her signing or wing to it. at this point people do expect she will take some sort of action. >> thank you so much. i'll be talking to the governor of delaware about the questions facing his fellow governor jan brewer. to politics and new today. national security adviser susan rice speaking about the fast-moving developments in the ukraine. we'll get that four in a second. she also discussed some new details about the violent civil war in syria. we'll try to get those up for you and bring those comments to you in just a moment. also in washington the national governor's association winter meetings resumed today.
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one governor who is keeping a low profile at the event, new jersey's chris christie. the republican did not answer questions from reporters saturday about the george washington bridge scandal. he's also leaving town today before tonight's big white house dinner. let me bring in someone from the governor's summit, delaware governor who last year was chairman of the national governor's association. good to have you here with us. what's talk of the weekend? what are you alls priority? >> our priorities are education, jobs, being good stewards of the taxpayers money. we had a great session this morning with secretary arne duncan. the president's proposal to invest significantly and a lot of great work going on in states across the country including delaware to make sure more kids have access to high quality early childhood education. >> what do you want to hear from the president on this trip. you'll have some access to him.
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what is it you're hoping to hear from the president? >> our focus with the president is always on the same priorities that are important to our constituents. around jobs and economic development, what are we doing to create additional opportunities for our people. we're very interested in opportunities to help our small businesses export and to attract foreign direct investment. we've seen great initiatives over the last couple of wears from the administration on that. we would love to hear more about the president's proposal around early childhood education and what we as governors can do make that happen so more of our young people have those great opportunities when they are young to start their lives out strong. >> the president has been talking a lot about it and it's a priority for him. the minimum wage. trying to increase the minimum wage in this country. you all didn't wait there in your state. you all recently passed an increase that will take you want up to 8:25 by next year. is this something clearly you in your state you signed that bill, you are in favor of raising the
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minimum wage but is this something that should be left in the hands of individual states. 10 bucks for the whole country. it might work for some states. might not work for you in delaware. >> what you'll find states generally won't wait for the federal government to act when we think it's in the best interest of our citizens. i want to have fewer members of the working poor population. so we did go ahead. we increased the minimum wage. that's only one component of our plan to make life better when it comes to jobs and having fewer working poor people. other components include doing a much better job in terms of linking the skills that are taught to our people with the skill that are valued in the marketplace as well as around innovation. more and more of our economy is based on innovation, partnerships with institutions of higher education. i think you'll see across the country certainly in delaware those kind of initiatives. >> do you feel 8.25 is a number
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that works in your state. the federal government could come along and say it should be higher. >> the research is not all that clear. we felt this was a good move, that the impact would be positive. i think if there's something that happens across the country one state won't be disadvantaged necessarily against another. so we thought this was an important way to get started. and we look forward helping more of our people, you know, have the money to put food on the table and try to build a better life. i'm sure at some point this weekend two of your colleagues, governor jan brewer and governor chris christie pulled to you the side wanted to get your advice about some of the things that are going through right now in their states. let me start with governor jan brewer. in your opinion, again there are laws in place out there that keep businesses from having -- from discrimination of all kinds but do you feel in what they are right now have passed in arizona, should a law be -- do
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we need a law that keeps businesses, small businesses or otherwise should they have the ability to say, you know what? that goes against my religious beliefs to serve you because of the decisions you're making in your life. does this law, in your opinion, go too far? >> it does. first of all, i'm not expecting governor brewer or governor christie will be seeking my advice on these issues. i think the arizona law is puzzling. i want to make it very clear to folks out there that we in delaware are welcoming to all and in fact back in 2009 i signed a law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. it's puzzling that anybody would try to actually do the reverse at this point but, again, that law would not work in delaware. we want to make it very clear that we're welcoming to all. >> any indication -- i don't know if you have been buzzing around about it. we've been talking about it. is it talk among governors there as well? have you all in some of your private sessions not asking for any names, is this something you all are talking about, keeping
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an eye on what they are doing in arizona? >> not really. i've not heard it. our focus is really learning from each other about what we can do in our states. how can we be more successful in putting more people to work, how can we be more successful when it comes to public safety, when it comes to improving our schools. those kinds of things. these kind of political machinations that get a lot of attention from the pundits and press don't get a lot of attention from the governors. we have a job to do which is to make life better for folks in our state. >> i'll skip the question about the advice you may have given chris christie. sir, good to see you. >> we're 11 minutes past the hour. we want to country to sochi, closing ceremony is now under way. russia's deputy prime minister said the games broken the ice of skepticism towards new russia adding they have made the country the culture and the people more understandable.
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the final event of the games, canada and sweden squared off for men's hockey gold. results in a second. defending olympic medalist stephen holcomb was in fourth place. this is where we have to give you a bit of a spoiler alert in the next couple of minutes we'll be discussing some olympic results that have already happened but not yet broadcast. for more on the final day of the sochi games let's bring in nbc's kevin tibbles. good to see you as always. it's wrapping up. i'm sure you're a little sad about that. we didn't have a dog in the fight the u.s. did not in terms of the hockey final but always a big deal, a big medal. how did that go down? >> reporter: first off, i don't know if you can hear the closing ceremonies are under way here and i think the comments are spot on as they would say in the uk because i think the russian people have dome the fore as a
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result of these games. who came to the foretoday it was team canada same team that actually knocked the united states out of the competition for hockey. and, again, the canadas seemed to come to nature the came defensively and offensively, not allowing sweden get a chance. on another note from the game, washington capital star nick baxstrom tested positive for something. he didn't play today. so it did not affect the outcome of the game. he was not playing in the game. we'll have to wait and see what it was he tested positive for. at the end of the day team canada repeated their gold medal performance from vancouver which will make my mother, father, sister, brother very happy back in toronto. >> good to point that out. it's all right to grin a little bit after the u.s. didn't do so
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well. but stay with team usa for a second. a lot of people may realize no medals on saturday for team usa. sunday, this last day able to get something in the win column? >> i think steve holcomb in the four man bobsled will be a happy man. this is his second medal adding to the one he got in vancouver. bobsled, team usa will be going home from the sochi olympics a very happy crowd and getting ready for the next time around in south korea because it's clearly a sport that's on the up and up when it comes to team usa and mr. holcomb is the man. essentially breaking a 62 year brought in the two man bobsled for team usa and then getting another bronze in the four man. >> kevin tibbles we have to leave it there. good talking to you.
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safe travels home. you can have a front seat for the closing ceremony. you can see that 8:30 eastern time tonight on nbc. stay with us. how did the most notorious drug pin in mexico elude officials until yesterday. there's a one word answer to that question. president obama is take action on a promise he made a short time ago. what is it and who is involved? because when it comes to feeling safe behind the wheel, going the distance and saving at the pump you want it all. get our multi-point inspection with a a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup. only at your ford dealer.
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. we're learning more today about the arrest of drug kingpin joaquin "el chapo" guzman from the sinaloa cartel. guzman was found in mexico city where we got the first public glimpse of the drug loshd since he escaped from prison in 2001.
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he has been indited in half a dozen cities in this country. the former chief of operations of the drug enforcement agency says his capture is a huge deal. >> is undoubtedly the most ruthless organized crime leader on the face of the globe today. fortunately tonight he's behind bars where he belongs. >> the mexico attorney general released this video that allegedly shows the tunnels guzman used to escape from authorities. he's credited with pioneering the use of under ground tunnels to ship drugs across the border. president obama will host an event at the white house to unveil a new initiative called my brother's keeper. it's a program for young minority men that aims to keep them in school out of the criminal justice system. it's a targeted approach but will it have the strength to make lasting change? jermaine lee is a national
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reporter for msnbc. he wrote the article, obama's outreach to young men of color too, little too late? already we're hearing criticism but concern, wonder if this is going symbolic. will it have teeth to it. are those legitimate criticism? >> when news first spread that obama was launching this initiative, my brother's keeper, those who advocate for young men of color in chicago and other cities who deal with violence they welcome the news but still how much are we talking about in terms of resource? will it have teeth? will it be coordinated nationally in a way that's robust and comprehensive because what's impacting young people is not what happens in the classrooms, it's outside, it's within homes, it's hunger, food and security and are the light bills being paid. how are we addressing the challenges of these young men. >> is the it too little too late? some say better late than never. is not something you can throw
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together? it's such a huge issue, huge problem and so often people say education, get them in class and not addressing what's happening at the house. the life situation. >> that's the big fear because the president in an interview with charles barclay said we won't create a big new government program. advocates are not saying we need a big government program but how are you in a comprehensive way going to address these issues. you can't throw money at schools. they talk about early intervention. does that mean in third and fourth grade when the testing starts to skew. that's the part of the whole initiative. we don't know enough yet. >> we'll learn a lot more on thursday. is this something the president could not have done in his first term because a lots of being talked in that first term and people that didn't want to criticize the people were saying hey we're over here, give us some attention. he famously said with black
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enterprise i'm not the president of black america. is this stuff he can do now that he couldn't do or maybe even wanted to do his first term? >> company have done it the first term. yes. would he have taken the shrinks and are a gross the right? yes. now it's a rare opportunity to course correct. now it's time to shape the legacy where his supporters were saying especially when we're still dealing with a downed economy look at these double digit unemployment rates. president do something for us. but now -- i think going back to that week after the zimmerman acquittal when he said trayvon martin could have been me, and he looked in the camera and said here are our expenses and here's why the community is so hurt and it touched a nerve. that right there switched the trajectory. now it's time to shape the legacy that i'm not only the first black president but i understand the plight. >> i know people want teeth. they want this to mean something, go somewhere, have resources, but is still a
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success, the symbolism of the president united states, does you want have value? >> for better or worse, it means something. every time he says something and he clearly identifies himself as a black man and identifies with the struggles and continued plight of young black men especially it's already a win. unfortunately is that enough for the community that's ailing in so many ways and that these young men are facing disproportionate impacts with zero tolerance policies in school. these prisons are filled with young black and brown men. >> you've written some great stuff. i'll scene out your article if people did not send it. great read. good to see you as always. we're about 25 minutes past the hour now. and the most literate cities in america, it's in today's number ones. the unanswered question in the upheaval in the ukraine, where is the president? uffer from a dh then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be.
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topping today's list of number ones, the most literate cities in america. the annual central connecticut state university study rankings looks at cities reading culture which includes quality of bookstores, libraries and the number of residents with college degrees. for the fourth straight year, washington, d.c. tops the list. seattle comes in at number two. minneapolis third. bakesville, california named least literate followed by corpus christi, texas and stockton, california. in roseville, california, 84-year-old john barre is reading for the first time in his life. three years ago he walked into the city library asking for help to read and that was the beginning of tutoring that has changed his life. >> i had these people throughout my life help me. >> and now he can read the book
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he was seeking at the library, a biography of the serbian-american inventor nikolai tesla. >> did you learn how to read? >> here and there. >> more claim for "12 years as a slave" won four honors last night including the prize for outstanding mocks picture. other winners forest whittaker, kerry washington and kevin hart who is every where was named entertainer of the year. and those are your number ones. . ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away
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new york. manager of the restaurant was killed. 28 people sent to hospital. investigators are to discussion on the heating system as a cause. the restaurant had no carbon monoxide detectors. police in rome say a missing new hampshire college student was hit by a train. the body of john dirken was found in a railway tunnel after he had gone missing while studying overseas. he was a linebacker with the bates college football team. it looked like a free car wash near cleveland. water spewed over the highway. lanes had to shut down for several hours. national security adviser susan rice speaking about the currents crisis engulfing the ukraine and questions surrounding the whereabouts of the ukrainian president. >> the ukrainian people expressed themselves peacefully. they were met with violence. that did not end well for viktor
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yanukovych. >> does he have to go in the president's mind? >> he has gone. >> but does he have to relinquish power? >> he has gone, david. this is an interesting and complicated situation. he's lost, viktor yanukovych has lost enormous legitimacy despite having been democratically elected by turning on his people, by using violence in the streets. >> we go live to the white house. we heard susan rice say he's gone. where did he go? >> reporter: good afternoon, t.j. senior administration officials don't know where viktor yanukovych is at this hour but a ukrainian tv station published what it says is security camera video showing a helicopter carrying viktor yanukovych from his home to some other location. getting back to "meet the press," david gregory asked ambassador rice if the united states support the protesters. her response is the u.s. support
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the ukranian people, that they want to see an to end the violence. that they want to see a transition take place quickly and without more loss of life. she underscored how complicated this situation is, how tenuous this situation is and it underscores the divide between the east and west. a lot of people pointing the finger to russian president vladimir putin. they say he's responsible for the government crackdown. president obama spoke with vladimir putin on friday. ambassador rice gave more details about that phone call. >> the president's message was look we have a shared interest in a ukraine that remains unified, whole, independent and is able to exercise the will of its people freely. at that point putin was in agreement. they were both able to say that they wanted to see the implementation of the agreement that had been signed on friday. and that agreement very consistent with our principles and consistent, in fact, daufd with where this situation is going. we'll have a unity government,
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we'll have near term election, we'll have constitutional reform and that reflects the will of the ukrainian people and tint of the united states and europe. >> reporter: ambassador rice warned russia against intervening in ukraine saying it would be a grave mistake to take military action. t.j., back to you. >> thank you as always. turn now to new reaction today to college football star michael sam after he spoke to reporters for the first time since revealing he's gay. he's focusing anthony weekend's annual scouting combine and wants the media to focus on his athletic abilities instead of his sexual orientation. >> no. no. i've been getting a lot of great positive from all kinds of fans. so, you know, while i'm on the field i don't focus on fans, so i just focus on my responsibilities and wishes the guy right across from me. >> contributing sports writer
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for the "new york times" ben strauss was there for that media session. he joins me now. you know what? put some of this video up. we all watched this. he seemed very relaxed, cracked a few jokes. seemed ready for this moment. you were there. what was that room like? >> i think you're spot on. he was cool. he was confident. he was relaxed. somebody that was, you know, evidently very comfortable in his own skin, very comfortable with his decision to, you know, reveal his sexual orientation, and maybe the room wasn't as cool as he was, you know. this was sort of the marquise event of the nfl combine this weekend and he had, you know, banks of tv cameras and reporters, six and seven deep trying to jostle and get access to michael sam. with the media circus around him he was very cool. >> list of let's listen to one more thing.
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>> everyone can be normal around me if they wanted to. we joke around that's because it's a brotherhood, it's a family, so we can say things to each other, no harm. we don't draw blood. all fun and games. i didn't have doubts. i wanted to get my story out there before anyone else said or tell it and i'm continuing on with my life and trying to prepare myself for nfl. if someone wants to call me a name i'll have a conversation with that guy and hopefully won't lead to nothing else. i just want to do what i love to do and that's play football. a trail blazer. i feel i'm michael sam. >> what stood out to you yesterday his comments? >> i think when he addressed the possibility of going to miami where they dealt with bullying scandal this season and he was asked what if somebody calls you a name, how do you handle it? he was very direct and very honest and said i would speak with that person. i would handle it, you know, one on one and hopefully squash it.
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and i think that is sort of in the context of his honesty and his upfrontness is sort of how he's going to handle this and deal with it. there's no -- you know there's no running, no hiding, this is who he is. >> this is a guy, to talk a little football this is a guy who is projected to the sixth round. he's not a high draft pick. he has some things to prove out there in drills on the actual field. but we're hearing word that maybe some gm, some coaches you have to worry about how he perform tons field but they also have to take everything that's going to come with him which we're talking about off the field stuff which is being fold by a lot of cameras. are you hearing that maybe some general managers, some people making draft picks thinking wow that's a big headache we might have to deal with, the attention will be drawn by michael sam? >> i think that right after his announcement you had some
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anonymous quotes from very executives that said he might be a distraction, that locker rooms didn't want to deal with this. i find it hard to believe that argument when you look at some of the did you say trackses that are already part of nfl locker rooms, you know, arrests and that sort of thing. all week here players, coaches, gms have been very on message saying nfl is a results driven business. if michael sam sacks the quarterback he'll be a part of the team and people will welcome him. so, how much it affects his draft i'm not sure. if you talk to coaches and gms here this week -- >> ben strauss again contributing sports writer for the "new york times." appreciate you taking some time out. folks, prepare to be amazed. why a line, that line has something to do with a new reality show for sarah palin. also reaction the arizona bill that would give businesses the
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all right. get ready sarah palin is preparing for another round of reality tv. >> america, prepare to be amazed. >> well that's the new promo for palin's new reality show called "amazing america with sarah palin." program will feature stories of the american outdoors lifestyle premieres april 3rd on the sportsman channel. also today new reaction from arizona governor jan brewer who must decide this week whether to sign or veto a bill that would allow businesses to refuse service to gay customers based
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on religious beliefs. the governor spoke to reporters this weekend at the national governor's association meeting in d.c. >> you know, the bill is in transmittal and i don't have to make a decision until next friday. so i got plenty of time. >> let me bring in deputy white house editor for politico and washington correspondent for the daily beast. ladies, thank you both for being here. why is this different, eleanor? she in a different position than she was a year ago when she vetoed similar legislation? what could she be contemplating this time around? >> i have no idea what she's contemplating but i would be stunned if she went ahead and signed this legislation. business community and her supporters are very strong in arizona, and they are telling her that the state will lose business if she goes ahead and signs this bill. even some evidence that businesses planning to move there have changed their minds because they can't put their employees into a situation that
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would have this kind of law hanging over their heads. they are in line for the super bowl, i think they wouldn't get the super bowl if they went ahead and jan brewer has been strong in standing up to the really runaway legislature. she managed to get medicaid funding expansion in her state. you know, expanding obamacare against a lot of opposition. so i think she's going to sign this. but she's going to act like she's really, you know, like it's a really tough decision to give the supporters of the legislation some hope that she still has some sympathy -- >> you think she will sign it? >> no. no. she's going to agonize over it like maybe she will but i don't think she will. >> rebecca let me bring you in. we're talking about this in arizona but we have at least ten states that have introduced some similar form of legislation. these are called christian shield laws. why are we seeing these pop up?
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>> you know, you're exactly right. this is the first state where this is coming to the fore, where the issue is facing the governor, this won't be the last time we see this. this is coming at an interesting moment. you have the supreme court case coming up, the hobby lobby case where the court looks at the contraception mandate under the affordable care act. there's a lot of movement now and lot of discussion about the idea of religious freedom and kind of pushing back against what they see is encroachment by the courts. as part of that discussion, arizona a very unique situation because they still that have memory of what happened the last time with the immigration problem, you had scores of businesses and individuals talking about boycotting the state over that measure and so a little bit of deja vu for the state's business community there. >> let's go the mid-terms. maybe we're getting unanimous die occasion. i want to read some tea leaves from the weekly addresses from
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the president and gop. while the president, it's a priority for him right now talking about the minimum wage and response from the gop as this article says is obamacare. will they still have a winning argument the affordable care act. is that what they are going to hold on to for the mid-terms? >> it sure looks that way. they seem to atheist magic bullet. the bill will be unfolding all year. people will go to their doctors and i think the republicans are running out of horror stories. if you examine the stories that they put forth most of them don't hold up with a little investigative reporting. so i think -- i think, you know, i think some red state senators are correct to be advocating don't end it with obamacare but i think overall that it's not going to be the winning formula for republicans that they hope it will be. >> on the minimum wage, 72% of
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americans actually do want the federal minimum wage to be raised. 52% of republicans in fact say they want it raised, but from all indications and people of your ilk and people who are doing a lot of political reporting are saying nothing major will get done. they are in cruise control or neutral right now coasting into the mid-terms. why won't congress act if it seems this is something the american people want? >> well, of course, you're going see more attention there. this has become one of the centerpieces of the democratic agenda pushing forward into 2014. definitely a highlight of their mid-term message. they are looking at the same polls we are. the question is how much of a vote driver it actually is. you know, there will be some discussion, obviously, the minimum wage will be discussed on the senate side at least. no movement on the house side, obviously. so, you know, it will get that public attention. it will be out there. it will be something that you'll hear the president speaking again and again as he has been
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on trail and highlighting it. you'll hear from democratic candidates as income inequality agenda pushes forward but not as much movement at least, you know, nothing big gets done in washington during a mid-term year and this is no exception. >> rebecca of politico, eleanor, washington correspondent for the daily beast thank you both for being here. i'm see you again soon. >> as we get to ten to the top of the hour did vladimir putin's $50 billion gamble on sochi pay off? some answers from an author who knows the man. ink with what's n
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the last few hours of the sochi flame. tonight in primetime a closing ceremony that will include a good-bye to russia. and nods to the olympians. the final medal count we can tell you for these games, russia in the lead with 33 medal, team
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usa number two spot with 28. norway with 26. canada 25 and netherlands 24. with the closing ceremony fast approaching, the games we remember for breaking records and problems behind-the-scenes so russian president's put $50 billion bet on these games did it partnership off? let's bring in the author of the book "mr. putin, operative in the kremlin." is he the one that gets the big gold medal? >> certainly from these events, yes. you can see from just the medal count this is a great success for the russian federation. always the case hat the host nation performs well, i suppose not always the case but mostly the case they rise to the occasion. but really if you compare this to russia's performance in previous winter olympics, think back to vancouver, for example, when russia was somewhat down in the lead tables they doubled
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their medal count here. all of the discussions we had about the security concerns about these olympics, they dealt with those. from all accounts the security which is obviously pretty heavy because of the risk of terror attacks like there was one in one of the russian cities, volgograd before the olympics came around security seems to have done the trick. people have commented and complimented the russians on the security that it was fairly light, not as intrusive as people expected. so in many respects for the occasion itself the spectacle, the performance of the russian athletes, this has been a very great achievement. i guess the question now is what happens next. >> what does happen next. i guess david remnick of the "new yorker" magazine said this was a chance for vladimir putin to reassert russia on the world's stage. what does that mean? what happens next? is that the next? >> because the big price tag that we're all talking about
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this 50 plus billion it wasn't just about the olympic games itself, it was about transforming sochi, this city in the south of russia in the subtropical zone into a multipurpose state-of-the-art all year round for sport and summer. it's a popular destination for russians and putin wanted to make it a popular destination for russia. russia is not renowned for a hot tourist spot. one of the ushs is whether this investment into this infrastructure around sochi to build this place up will attract more people to russia. will this be the kind of place people want to come for conventions. >> you've met him before and written about him. is this personal? were these games something -- is it fair to say that. can you call these games personal to him? >> very personal. for most people at the top of the pinnacle of the power in a country when you host olympic games it becomes a very personal project.
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for putin even more so. he's the person that won this bid. he learned english and french to sway over the international olympic committee. he went out there to win the olympic games for sochi and for russia. at every step of the way he's been very personally engaged in the spectacle and putting this together, putting his personal stamp on this. yes, this has been very much about vladimir putin and put's new russia. >> you got to do this for me in 20 seconds. will they get a shot in the arm? that tourist destination and people looking and thinking about russia any differently? >> we'll see. there's a good chance they will get that shot in the arm but not the big economic bonanza they were hoping for. let's watch. let's see how many people want to go to sochi after these olympic games. it's fantastic having you. senior fellow at the brookings institution. thanks for coming in on your sunday. >> to our viewers that's it for me. we do appreciate you being here on weekends. i'm in for alex witt today.
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good afternoon. welcome. we have a great show for you today as we honor black history month this february it's important to remember the military's role as an agent of social change. 16 years before the landmark civil rights act passed president harry truman ordered the military to desegregate. where does it stand today nearly 70 years later? i'm going to ask colonel irving smith a west point professor who studied the role of race. later worldwide premier of a music enjoyed from imagine dragons. the band created exclusively for the wounded warrior project. you'll n

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