thank you all very much. that is all for us today. we'll be back here next week. tonight don't miss the olympic closing ceremonies here on nbc. and coming up this friday on "today," an exclusive interview with first lady michelle obama. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press. our interests have been clear all along. we want to see a de-escalation of the violence. we want to see constitutional change. we want to see democratic elections. >> what does putin do here? i think the message has to be sent to him to let the ukrainian people determine their own future. >> keeping a close eye on kiev. good afternoon. i'm melissa roadwilissa rehberg craig melvin. out of public view. >> chapo guzman's arrest will have a significant impact on the availability of heroin and

methamphetamine coming into the y united states. >> now that el chapo is behind bars what happens to the flow of drugs across the southern border? to give lawful same-sex marriages full and equal recognition to the greatest extent possible under the law. >> public opinion is always moving them forward in our favor. >> we want our relationship to be recognized just like everyone else's. we want to be married. >> this has really put the seal, stamp of approval on the fact that no matter family make-up, your family is important and marriage is important. >> a third of states now allow same-sex marriage. could the issue become a wedge for this year's midterm elections? nearly two years after the death of trayvon martin, there's been no change in the controversial stand your ground laws. why not? deep in the heart of texas, it could be the women making history very soon. we'll talk to one of the lone star state's trailblazers. first, games over in russia,

where a short while ago closing ceremonies ended the olympic games. they were marked, instead, by competition and athleticism. more from sochi as the torch goes out. >> reporter: good final evening to you from the sochi olympics. at the end of the day, the russians are probably feeling pretty proud about these olympic games, coming in first when it comes to the medal count, followed by the united states of america and norway coming up in third place. the big event at the olympics was the men's hockey final. canada for the second time in a row taking the gold medal, as they did in the vancouver games, defeating sweden. one swedish player today, nicholas back strostrom who plar the capitals, tested positive for a banned substance.

while steve holcomb, also won a medal in vancouver. that is a very good thing obviously for that sport here. as these games wind down, the russians, who have attended these games in vast numbers, are streaming out of the park, streaming out of the stadium a very happy bunch tonight. i think it has to be wait to be seen just how the world will react to these olympic games. as for the russians, a very happy lot here in sochi. >> kevin tibbles in sochi, thank you. the ukraine parliament today moved to restore order to the country after weeks of deadly demonstrations reached a fever pitch this weekend. ukraine president viktor ns yanukovych has allegedly fled kiev. presidential powers to the

legislative speaker. from reuters, thank you for being here today. do they have real legitimacy? >> half of the country is loyal to russia and kiev is more pro-european. this is not over. it's unclear what's going to happen here and how vladimir putin the president of russia will react to this. >> we'll revisit that in a moment. many have made cold war illus n illusions to this. ambassador susan rice said that is a dated perspective. >> this is not about the u.s. and russia. this is about whether the people of ukraine have the opportunity to fulfill their aspirations and be democratic and part of europe, which they choose to be. >> is it allowed to be that simple? do you see the u.s. and russia, in particular, as you said, keeping out of this?

>> i don't. i think it's a changed situation. russia is not as powerful as the soviet union was. putin has shown that he can be the spoiler. he has been the spoiler in syria. he can be the spoiler with iran as we try to carry negotiations there. he is trying to bolster the military government in egypt. ukraine is vital to him. he doesn't see this as a popular revolution but some kind of cia-background plot and putin fears that he could be next. so the administration needs to be very careful about countering putin, but not alarming him too much and getting him to react too extremely. >> president obama and president putin both had approximate an hour-long conversation friday, the past couple of days on this very issue. do you see conversations like that between these two men continuing? >> i think they will. i think the administration is right to have those conversations. i don't know for sure but i'm convinced that putin, in his inner circle, sees this as a u.s./european plot to encroach

on russia. how do you change that view inside his head? how do you gain his trust? secondly, there's a huge economic problem in the ukraine. the economy is on the verge of collapse after the orange revolution a decade ago. the country did not respond well. so the second concern is how does the new leadership respond? do they want to run the country properly or not? >> david, thank you. the world's most notorious drug lords, according to the u.s. attorney's office in brooklyn, joaquin "el chapo" guzman was arrested in a joint u.s./mexican operation. largely considered the largest and most powerful drug trafficking organization. senior fellow at the century foundation and staff writer at the new yorker. he wrote extensively on guzman. how big of a deal is this

arrest? >> it's a huge deal, at least symbolically. guzman has a third grade education who grew up in western mexico and went on to really establish and develop what became a kind of multi-national c conglomerate, perhaps 40 or 50% of all the illegal drugs in this country came from this one organization. >> you compare this to another very famous cartel leader. >> pablo escobar was much more of a public household name in the united states. he moved more drugs around than escobar. when he was his age, he had already been dead for ten years. >> some of the law enforcement guys i spoke with about guzman, they spoke about with a kind of grudging respect that long-time adversaries will accord one

another. a federal prosecutor told me yesterday, this is a quote from you, you are limited by your resources, but they're limited only by their imagination. if you can dream it up, they have built it. so, basically you're describing him as this quasi mythical figure. tell us more about this man. the guards, the guns, the tunnel s. all the resources they've created. >> he has become a mythical figure within u.s. law enforcement but broadly in latin america. part of that was his ability to escape the law all these years. he was locked up in mexico but escape friday prison in 2001. it's only now that he is being captured. his ability to innovate. this was a guy who was the pioneer of gig digging tunnels under the border. he first did it 25 years ago. he used submarines to send drugs up the continent, 747s. the range of imaginative means of getting drugs into this country is really bigger than

the imagination. >> tell us of the operation that brought him down, what you know of it so far. and are you surprised not a single shot was fired ? >> what we will find out in the coming days, it wasn't clear how much u.s. help they wanted in this effort. but chapo apparently had been hiding out on the pacific coast in mexico and had kind of a network of houses and apartments, safehouses, which were connected by a system of underground tunnels and had steel doors so when people came in and barged in one door by the time they actually got in, he would be gone. dea guys told me literally they found the house, knew where he was, the stove was still warm, he had escaped that recently. >> congressman michael mccaul said on abc this morning that guzman should stand trial in the u.s. let's listen in on that for a

moment. >> he escaped from a prison in 2001. there is corruption in that country. and i would ask that the mexicans consider extraditing him to the united states where he will be put in a super max prison under tight security where he cannot escape. >> so, prosecutors in both chicago and new york want him extradited as well. do you think that mexico will allow that to happen? >> that's the big question right now. if you think of it from mexico's perspective, they've made signals that they want to keep him there, try him there first. so, they have a point there. at the same time, he has escaped from a mexican prison before and he has been up to no good for so long that there are now indictments against him in a whole bunch of different u.s. states. even if he were to get excited, does he go to california, illinois, new york? >> he is also so very clever. he got out in a laundry basket, for goodness sake. very resourceful and has plenty

of people on his side that want to be helpful. before we end things here, given the scope, the magnitude of his reach, how do you think this will affect drug trafficking in the united states? >> i don't think it's going to slow it down. at least in the near term. it's an born symbolic victory. it's important for the mexican government with the u.s. help to take him down. but the idea that it will slow down the drug trade, i think there's a big infrastructure in place, one that's been moving for decades and it will continue to operate. what we may see -- i actually spoke to a former member of the cartel yesterday after the arrest who told me what he expects to see is a spike in violence now. >> somebody trying to take over his spot. >> it's a power vacuum. >> patrick, thank you very much. >> thank you. speaking exclusively on nbc's "meet the press" today susan rice spoke about the controversy which likely cost

her a position of secretary of state. some are still talking about her comments on the attack of the compound in benghazi, libya. >> do you have any regrets as you look back on that? >> david, no. what i said to you that morning and what i did every day since was to share the best information that we had at the time. the information i provided, which i explained to you was what we had at the moment, it could change. i commented that this was based on what we knew on that morning. it was provided to me and my colleagues and, indeed, to congress by the intelligence community. that's been well validated in many different ways since. and that information turned out, in some respects, not to be 100% correct. but the notion that somehow i or anybody else in the administration misled the american people is patently false. >> that was rice's first sunday morning interview since becoming

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uniform tonight when the nets play the lakers in l.a. this is the first time an openly gay athlete plays in a major league sport. let's get right to our brain trust on that. political in assist and contributor at the grio. lynn sweet is the washington bureau chief for the chicago sun times and zirlina, scholars testifying in defense of michigan's constitutional ban on same-sex marriage aim to show doubt about the wisdom of change, sharply disputed recent studies to suggest that children of same-sex couples do not fare as well as those raised by married heterosexual couples. what is the real next step here? >> they need to stop making this argument in court. because this argument mirrors many of the arguments we heard, you know, people who are against interracial marriage.

the famous supreme court case that made very similar arguments, it damages the children. i just have to say that as an african-american, discrimination hurts the children much more than a same-sex relationship, a loving family hurts children. that helps children. >> peter, proponents of same-sex marriage are also taking to the courts saying cases are pending in eight of 33 state that is forbid gay couples to marry, most have been filed since last june when the federal government ruled that they cannot refuse to recognize same-sex marriage in the states that it is legal. is this going to be state by state by state? >> it's likely to end up at the supreme court eventually. right now we're seeing big victories in the states. you see in utah, virginia, oklahoma, big rulings in favor of same-sex marriage.

in places like kentucky and ohio, you see more narrow rulings and a big public shift in opinions over the last decade or so. you actually have seen a major reversal in public opinion. and that is on part what is allowing these courts to make these opinions in favor of same-sex marriage. >> same-sex marriage is legal in the district of columbia. >> i don't know because i don't know -- there are novel issues in some of these lawsuits which would influence whether the supreme court took it or not. just the idea, though, that there are many cases pending shows how contentious this is judicially. maybe it will take a few years for us to determine what is settled law. a point to be made for -- and i agree that the court is a very dicey strategy for people who

are opposed to same-sex marriage. if you want to just say you're against it, if that's your opinion, that's one thing. to try to rely on some kind of sociological study seems a very dicey proposition. the trend seems to be that everyone seems to be more on-board with gay marriage and it's just a matter of time. >> freedom to marry is taking a different approach launching a $1 million pr campaign across the south. washington post is reporting this. the campaign will push to grow public support as we've been talking about for same-sex marriage. about two dozen lawsuits challenging bans on gay marriage are pending before the states and federal courts in southern states and freedom to marry hopes that building public support for same-sex marriage can influence those judges' decisions. is that really enough to change hearts and minds out there? >> i think so. the reason i think so is that we're seeing more and more that younger people and people of

color -- we're trending toward progress, toward equality and not stripping away people's rights. in arizona, jan brewer had a decision to determine whether or not she would sign a zrimtry law in that state. there's a lot of pressure, even in the state of arizona, for her to reject that law. even if we're see iing it in arizona, that demonstrates that we're moving towards progress. because arizona is a very conservative state. >> peter, one more question to you, could this be a generational issue? >> certain issues are worked out as different swren ration gene along. >> for the mill enials, this is already resolved. we're seeing a shift amongst conservatives, religious people. you've seen 25-point shifts among evangelicals and conservatives and the groups who

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the situation there is extremely volatile. protesters killed. the white house has tough calls to make. anti-government protesters have taken to the streets, crying foul over high crime, food shorta shortages. in the wake of it all, venezuelan president nicolas maduro wants a meeting with president obama. we just learned that they will meet tomorrow with a chance, perhaps, to cool tensions there. thank you for being here with us today. president nicolas maduro ordered three u.s. embassy officials out of the country. tv outlets are being threatened with prosecution for covering the violence and human rights watch says venezuela used unlawful force against

protesters. john kerry said friday this is not how democracies behave. do you think president obama should sit down with president maduro or not? >> we are very concerned about the situation at the moment in venezuela. for the past two weeks we have issued various urgent calls, urging the authorities to allow freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of association. so, anything that can be done now to ensure that the situation doesn't escalate is very welcomed. there have been some welcoming signs in the past few days. president maduro sent a clear message to armed civilians, supporters of him, who are sort of threatening and killing civilians. he has issued a call saying that he's not going to tolerate violence and he's going to actually disarm them. we hope and we trust that that is actually the case.

>> opposition leader lopez was jailed and ten people are killed in this conflict. it's likely to get uglier before it gets better. how do you see things playing out, realistically? >> we were seriously concerned when lopez had to give himself up. he had been accused of homicide. those charges have now been dropped and the charges are now others. we are urging the authorities to make sure he get ace fair trial and that clear evidence is provided of the alleged crimes he has committed. there has to be a clear sign not only in words, and president maduro has already sent clear words but now those words have to be implemented. the ten killings, as you mentioned, have to be investigated and those responsible have to be brought to justice. that is crucial. president maduro has also called for dialogue in the next few days with the different parties. as you mentioned just now, he is

meeting, hopefully, the opposition leaders tomorrow. it is crucial that human rights are put at the forefront of this crisis. >> back here in the united states, rallies were staged from los angeles to washington, d.c. in support of venezuela's anti-government movement. what kind of role is washington likely to take? and does our government have any leverage here? >> i think the whole international community has to put pressure on both parties to ensure that the rule of law is upheld, including all the human rights that those sbral. civil and political rights but also social and economic rights. protesters are worried about the high crime at the moment. amnesty has a whole campaign on controlling arms, proliferation of small arms in that country is big. that has to be tackled. civil and political rights have

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28 other people were hurt there. investigators are still investigating that. two-year anniversary of the shooting death of trayvon martin, a teenager in florida who was unarmed. a case that shocked the country. it put gun issues and gun laws at the forefront of a national debate that has not led to a change in legislation. one lausof the laws in question florida's stand your ground, which allows people to shoot first and ask questions later. others say it allows citizens to protect themselves. swron rutherford, one of the most visible supporters of his state's stand your ground laws appears to be softening his view. he told a newspaper, i think there is some tweaking to the stand your ground law needed and suggested that lawmakers should revisit whether citizens have a duty to retreat in some cases before using force. i want to bring in jennifer hoppy, program director for moms

demand action. one year since sandy hook, last week a verdict following the shooting death of jordan davis, who was killed over a feud over loud music, just to name a few here. do you think gun carriers in america are growing even more emboldened to pull the trigger or is it just that we're paying closer attention to these things? >> it's unquestionable that the stand your ground laws in florida have a certain mentality. armed, angry people to shoot first and ask questions later. >> what do you think is the root cause, though, of gun violence in america? >> well, the root cause of gun violence is multifaceted, for sure. and i think the main point is that we need to step back and start enacting common sense gun

legislation. we have, for too long, stood by and gotten to the point where we expect shootings to happen every day. i mean, every day, 33 americans are killed due to gun violence. it's completely unacceptable. and i think that to throw up our hands and think we can do nothing about it is ridiculous. that's why mothers like myself and those members, other members of moms demand action for gun sense in america are standing our ground and are starting to hold our legislators accountable and working to change the culture of guns and gun violence in america. >> as i mentioned a moment ago the jacksonville sheriff, who has staunchly supported the stand your ground law now says maybe it deserves a second look and revision perhaps. is that a baby step toward curbing gun violence? >> i think absolutely, we need to look at stand your ground laws and roll them back. one thing that has happened in the wake of trayvon martin's

death is that people really started paying attention. and i think it's telling that since trayvon martin's death, no other state has become a stand your ground state. people are really paying attention and realizing that stand your ground laws are doing absolutely nothing to protect our communities. there is no evidence to show that stand your ground laws result in a reduction in crime. in fact, since 2005, when florida passed its stand your ground laws the justifiable homicide rate has tripled and 26 children or teens have been victims of -- in stand your ground cases. so i just think it's absolutely incumbent upon state legislators, upon citizens to call for a rollback of stand your ground laws. >> jennifer hoppy from moms demand action, thank you. >> thank you. breaking news we brought you just a moment ago. the tornado warning that was issued around the daytona 500

has now been lifted. severe weather is still in that area. officials have been clearing the grandstands at that huge event. the 200-mile race was stopped just after 38 laps. to politics now. two texas women are looking to make state history. wendy davis is running for governor. she gained national attention after leading a marathon filibuster over an abortion bill. and running for lieutenant govern governor. if davis wins the democratic praem, it will mark the first time in texas history that two women will lead a party's ticket. joining me now, the soul democrat for lieutenant governor. senator, it has been proven that a woman certainly can win in texas. how about two women? >> well, wendy and i are dear friends. we are both members of the senate and we are running strong campaigns. so i guess it's very, very

unusual in state history for texas and other legislatures as well in other states but we just happen to be two ngals. and we're going to run very, very strong campaigns. it's very possible that you could see a woman governor and a woman lieutenant governor in the state of texas. >> do you think that having another woman on the ticket, especially wendy davis, will help or hurt your chances? >> i think there is a lot of synergy between what wendy and i campaign on. really the focus is on education. but i have a strength in being a health care professional. i've been a pharmacist for 33 years. i'm latina and have been a sixth generation texan. for being a mother of six, grandmother of six, i bring a lot of strength as well. >> to that point, this is interesting. when your family first talked about you running for office,

your daughter pointed out there's not enough mommies there. why is that important? >> it's important because the decisions that are made by our government should reflect the people. and really a direct connection to the results for families. to leave women out is to leave not only that brain power out but perspective that women have as moms and business owners. more importantly, i think my daughter recognized when it is so skewed, when there are so many men they tend not listen to women's voices. we certainly saw that this past summer in texas. >> healthcare, pharmacy costs and also the issue of abortion has clearly been front and center in texas. it catapulted wendy davis into the spotlight. she takes a bit of backlash when she said she was open to banning

abortions after 20 weeks. is there any kind of nuance when it comes to that particular issue? >> if you go back over the records, the the democrats supported an amendment that would have basically upheld anything past 20 weeks was not permissable in our state. the language is written to allow enough discretion between a woman and her doctor, the health of the woman. fetal abnormality that was irreversible. and, most important to me, was rape and increestincest. the four guys on the republican side said no exceptions even for rape or incest, even of a child. >> politico wrote about ted nugent's influence saying this. democrats and rks alike see nugent as a turn-out catalyst in

texas and beyond. he fires up a segment of the gop base which is so enamored of nugent's fiery anti-barack obama rhetoric and defense of gun rights that it can overlook the singer's tawdry history. end quote. how do you campaign to ted nugent-style supporters? >> for those that are ardent supporters of second amendment rights -- and i am one. texas is a state where we value that second amendment right. the but texans also are smart enough to know that if there's a man who writes a song, that brags about having sexual relationships with teenage girls, they understand that's way off the mark. most texans values are not in support of that. >> state senator, thank you very much. >> thank you. fresh food in a jar? on demand. it could be a way to bring healthy eating to place that is

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locally grown. luke saunders is the founder of farmer farme farmers fridge. why now? >> we were looking for a way to more effectively distribute healthy food. it allows us to put it in more places than if we had a full-scale restaurant. >> how do you keep this food fresh? >> we stock it every day, make all the food, bring it to the machines and take out any food from the day before that gets donated to a food bank. we use the mason jars. it's a natural way without preservatives to keep the food fresh. things with acid, like tomatoes, at the bottom and things like lettuce at the top to keep them separated. >> how do you profit off this idea? >> right now we're still figuring out the model. we have 10 machines in the field. the idea, we really need to put it in enough places where we have enough volume to support

the machine but it's still a lot lower than a traditional retail establishment. >> some of the items you offer. one of the salads include a detox salad with things like kale, fennel and pineapples. lemon pepper chicken and a greek yogurt parfait. when you have the pineapple right there but there's a donut right there, too, how do you get people to choose these healthy options? >> i mean, we've spent a lot of time on how to merchandise our products. if you look at the machines they're very well laid out. the food looks very appealing. honestly, our goal is to make it as accessible as possible. since i start this had business, i eat one to two salads a day. it's made me eat healthiehealth. if there's a donut next to a healthy option hopefully, over time, they'll change their habits and pick the healthy option. >> you mentioned accessibility. we both know there are scores of

people living in america who are in so-called food deserts, places where fresh and nutritious food are not readily available. how are you targeting areas like that with your business? >> so at this point, we focus really on marquis locations where we can get a lot of attention and sell a lot of food. that will help us to put kiosks in locations like that. working with a local company that's focused on efficiently distributing unused food. that's the best chance we have of putting a kiosk in a place like that. >> luke saunders, thank you. >> thank you very much, milissa. >> tell us about your big idea or tweet it to us using the #what'sthebigidea. ♪ where you think you're gonna go ♪ ♪ when your time's all gone? [ male announcer ] live a full life. the new lexus ct hybrid with an epa estimated 42 mpg. the further you go, the more interesting it gets.

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in the week. the girl scouts say locations are up to the parents. as always, our primary concern is the safety and well being of the girls we serve. volunteers and parents are empowered to relocate their booths if conditions change and the location is no longer suitable, end quote. a milestone for a maryland teenager. last week he was named eagle scout after a decade of service to the boy scouts of america. the 17-year-old is also openly gay. and the first gay scout to receive the highest honor. but when he turns 18 in august, his time will be up. the organization only allows gay scouts up to age 18. joining me now is pascal. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> first of all, that's a huge accomplishment. have you heard from anyone since being named eagle scout? if so, what have they said to you? >> i haven't really heard directly from anyone from the boy scouts headquarters. in general, just the general

feel that i've gotten from my local troop and people who have e-mailed me and sent me letters is that everyone is overwhelmingly supportive. i've gotten so much congratulations and it's been great. this whole experience has just been so wonderful. i have gotten so much positive feedback that it just totally outweighs the negative that i've experienced and it's so wonderful. >> before the change in policy earlier this year, were you already out to your fellow scouts and/or leaders? if that is the case, how were you treated? >> well, i came out when i was 13 years old. and since then i have, again, had such positive feedback. because some of the people that i was in scouts with were also in school with me, that's how my troop found out. just through, you know, word of mouth. also, i did tell people. in my troop, it didn't really matter to people. everyone treated me exactly the same. actually, people were proud of me. they were happy that i came to the self-realization. most people had, you know, figured it out for themselves

what my sexuality was. they were proud of me. >> according to the associated press, membership in the boy scouts of america has dropped by of%. a spokesman tells the associated press, it can partially be attributed to the change. do you think that's the reason? >> i don't think so at all. the rate in which the boy scouts have been -- they've been declining for a while. that's been unfortunate. i actually think -- what i view personally is that people will start -- more people will be joining the boy scouts than they have. there's less institutionalized discrimination. once there's full inclusion, i feel like membership will skyrocket. >> we did ask the boy scouts of america about your achievement. they said, the boy scouts of america has never inquired about the sexual preference of its members, employees, or volunteers. we believe every child deserves the opportunity to be part of the scouting experience, and our policies allow kids who

sincerely want to be part of scouting to experience this life-changing program while remaining true to the long-standing virtues to the boy scouts of america. what do you think about that statement? >> well, something that i've said before really comes to mind. simply because you've been teaching something for such a long time doesn't mean that it's right. and what they're saying is that, you know, everyone should be allowed to pursue this ideal of boy scouts and what they teach as long as it follows the virtues of boy scouts. but just because their virtues have been long standing doesn't mean they ring correct. and something that i've been working towards is i truly believe that the boy scouts is an amazing organization. i don't want it to be put out there that it's a bad organization just because they have this one small thing that i don't agree with. >> unfortunately, we are out of time. so i have to cut you off there. but congratulations once again on your accomplishment and best of luck to you, pascal. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for watching this

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