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you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern, "the ed show" is coming up next. \s. good even americans, let's get to work. >> protect our environment and open new markets to new goods stamped made in the usa. >> not afraid of dirty jobs. now people are slinging mud, because he's supporting walmart jobs. >> all the ad really did was announce walmart's intention over the next decade to buy a quarter of a trillion of u.s. made products. >> they say you can't be a champion of the everyday guy, everyday woman and then work with walmart. >> i make around $12,000 a year, which is poverty levels. i'm at food basics a lot.
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>> jobs were lost to china because of the walmart. >> i'm not a spokesman for walmart. i'm a spokesman for american manufacturing. good to have you with us. a lot more coming up on the xl pipeline in the back half. lots of interviews and information. you know, in our business or in any business, sales solves a lot of problems. you have to believe the pitch man. there's been great ones over the years. i remember growing up, i used to listen to the radio all the time. it was paul harvey, he wanted to give me a ride in his buick, gosh he was good. if you could do commercials like paul harvey, you had a chance. i always wonder if fred thompson ever really did get a reverse mortgage. mike rowe and walmart? really? talking about american jobs is easy. putting your mouth where your --
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i fircnd the partnership to be puzzling. you see, the conversation has been going on for a while, but not with walmart. but now it's entering the mainstream media with this ad. >> i believe i will rise again. we will build things and build families, and build dreams. it's time to get back to what america does best. ♪ >> because work is a beautiful thing. >> oh, if you've got good commercials, you can sell a lot of product. does this mean that walmart is going to be raising their prices? because everybody knows it does cost a little bit more to manufacture stuff in america. you know, a rising tide lifts all boats. mike rowe, the host of "dirty jobs" has happened on this show. good guy, really.
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i believe he honestly wants to bring back american jobs, but his partnership with walmart i think is completely misguided. for walmart, this campaign to me is just nothing buttite pr pl--a pr ploy. they're just trying to make up some ground because they've lost in brown. maybe not when it can ups to profit, but when it comes to the image business, do you think of walmart as american goods? i doubt it. according to the economic policy institute, walmart's trade deficit with china, between 2001 and 2006, well, it helped destroy 200,000 jobs in this country. an estimated 133,000 of those were manufacturing jobs. manufacturing is a long-term investment, with the potential for long-term benefits for any economy. ask the germans. walmart is the largest private
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sector employer in the united states. good for them. despite the fact that walmart posted a $16 billion net income in 2013, the american taxpayer, yeah, that would be you and me, we continue to pick up the tab for walmart's poverty wages, and that's exactly what they are. you see, walmart workers receive over $2 billion in government assistance each year, which can work out to be over $1 million in public assistance per store, or up to $5,815 per walmart worker. they've got a heck of a gig going on, don't they? you and i are helping them make all those billions of dollars. to gill you those famous low prices, walmart outsources. that's what they do. president obama addressed the importance of u.s.-based manufacturing today.
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>> for generations of americans, manufacturing was the ticket to a good middle-class life. we made stuff. you stuff we made, like steel and cars and planes made us the economic leader of the world. the work was hard, but the jobs were good. if you got on in an assembly plant if detroit or in a steel plant, you could buy a home, you could raise kids. you could sent them to check. you can't retire with security. those jobs didn't just tell us how much we were wort. they told us how we were contributing to the society, how we were helping to build america, and gave people a sense of dignity and purpose.
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>> very interesting. >> twice that that sound bite, president president mentions steel. steel has taken a hit lately because of this lousy deal with korea. korea is pushing prices way down. that's affecting american jobs. we'll have the full story for you on that next week here on "the ed show." just give me a little time. in the meantime, talks continue over the tpp trade agreement. this is such a going, isn't it? the trade talks, they stalled last night, which is good news, with the understandings and japan, they're great friends of ours, could not agree on market access. that's a mouthful. you mean to tell me the japanese want to bring in a lot of product, but don't want to take too much american product? this is a significant development, if you care about american jobs. this gives americans more time to voice their concerns about the trade agreement, which i don't think we should be messing with. president obama is aware that
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past trade agreements haven't been in the best interests of american workers. take a listen to what he said just last week in mexico. >> i've said this to some of my own constituents who are opposed to trade, that those who are concerned about losing jobs or outsourcing need to understand some of the old agreements put us as a disadvantage. that's exactly why we have to have stronger agreements to protect our intellectual property, that opens up our markets to agricultural products, that make sure when it comes to government procurement, sovereign wealth funds, they're not taking advantage of our businesses, and preventing us from competing there. that's exactly why we've got to get this done. >> somebody has to sit down with the president and get a long bur view on trade and exactly find out how much better the t p.m. p is than nafta.
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the bottom line is it isn't a stronger agreement. it's just as bad, if not worse than past agreements, including nafta. here's the bottom line -- you have to believe the pitch man. hey, look, mike rowe, great guy, no question about it, but does he really believe that walmart is in it for american jobs and manufacturing? you mean that walmart is going to go out and they're going to seek out american factories to make sure that product gets on the shelves so they can have low prices? no, it doesn't work that way. our standard of living in this country has been diminished because we've had lousy trade greats. this idea of reinvigorating the american economic and by the way the largest importer is going to make a commitment to american manufacturing? wow, get your phones out. tonight's question -- can you be for american job and the tpp?
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a for y, b for now. you can always go to the blog on msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results at the end of the show. we're joined tonight to talk about this, and lori great to have you with us. this is a subject that you have been front and center on for a long time. i want to get to what is happening with the tpp give us the definition of why they can't get the deal done. >> japan has a certain set of agricultural products they consider sacred, and they've said and in fact the ruling party, the current prime minister's party has said they will not accept zeroing out of tariffs on the commodities. at the same time they're trying
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the u.s. to get rid of tariffs on automobiles, and the u.s. is asking for a very long phaseout, plus for better rights to get into the japanese market that goes beyond tariff. on those old-fashioned trade issues, they are very stuck, but all the focus is obscuring the fact there's a lot of tpp issues that aren't really trade ones that have gotten stuck. the other countries are say ix-nay, or the united states has been pushing these crazy rules, and another country has joined australia in saying no. >> so there's a lot on the table but does a company like that
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fuel trade agreements like this? >> you can see up in the has pushing for fast track, the extraordinary outrageous legislative process that the president wants to try to railroad tpp into place. folks like walmart, k-mart, all of the big retailers are running around, they actually love the rules that were in nafta that are also in tpp. they're at the core of tpp. they actually promote off-shoring of u.s. jobs. these are the investor protections that literally remove most of the risks that would always otherwise by associated with going to a place like vietnam, where the wages are much lower than even china. 50 cents an hour. so these guys love these agreements. it's a way to get cheap stuff so they have a bigger margin. lori, thanks for joining us tonight. let's turn to larry cohen. good to have you on with us tonight.
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>> good to be here. >> you know, i've got to give the president credit. he talking a good game, but he's for the tpp and wants fast track. which president obama are we talking about here? >> it would be great to go back to the president obama in the campaign of 2008 when he made it clear that he stood with american workers, with the environment community. we could have it both ways, he knows that, too. we can always call out export sectors, but the question is, where is the net at the end of the day? as you've said so often, there's $8 trillion in trade definite duties from these deals. this one is the worst one ever. there is no change whatsoever. we, the citizens in this country, need to say here's what 21st century shade should look like. >> now, do you believe that walmart is going to make a concerted effort to make sure they buy american manufactured goods and put them on the shelves for those low, low
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prices? and if they do that, is this going to turn into better wages for the workers who are on public assistance? >> yeah, well, first of all, as you've said, the main reason, the number one reason, that every economist knows that we've had no wage increases for decades here has been the glob economy and our response to it, compared to a nation like germany, as you mentioned. number two, i'm sure walmart will promote certain products. they'll find a flag in the u.s. and wave it, but net? no way are they going to shift their strategies, because that would be directly they crux of their profits, and that would be a shock to all of us. >> the more we hear about the t pitch p, the more facets of the economy it affects. alternate culture, farmers in the middle of the country sheer paying attention. we're the best producer on the
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face of the earth when it culls to ag products. why would we want to serve that up? >> i think it's the split. you know better than most of us, it's the split between commercial farmer, corporations, and the family farmer, who loses out every time. made in the usa, part of t. p p will be to eliminate some of the labels requirements that the president talked about. >> there's nothing in the tpp that calls for that. that's a great slogan, but nowhere has it ever been put in any traemt agreement. >> absolutely. or agriculture. in fact, they would wipe out the buy america label, the last remnant of hope, in terms of how does a consumer, if they wanted to, identify things that were made here.
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>> larry cohen, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. remember and answer tonight's question and share your those on twitter and facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up, the face of a controversial discrimination bill in arizona will be decided this week. what is she waiting for? congressman jim mcdermott joins me next to discuss whether jan brewer will do the right thing. she said she'll do the right thing. what's that? and the american debate, proponents of the pipeline getting their chance to weigh in. stick around. >> you don't feel any environmental threat at all? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. >> and i'm right on top of this pipe. i had all kinds of things, the ground won't freeze, it will be soft there, everything else. never had a problem. i do a lot oresearch on angie's list
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the defenders of the social media, here is where you can find us. we appreciate your twitter activity on the pipeline stories coming up. and odd radio, monday through friday, noon to 3:00, and of course get my podcast. the ed show social media nation has been deciding all day and here are today's top trenders, voted on by you. >> i've been open talking about 2016. >> i planned a major announcement tonight, but i
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decided tonight's your night. >> joe biden brings the laughs on night life. >> look how happy you look. >> i got into it, except people said keep your hands off of it. >> any other projects? >> we're going to do snakes on a train. >> i've had it! the number two trender, person foul. >> banning gays from the nfl? >> foosball, a bunch of -- >> and why does he plan to appropriate legislation banning gay athletes from joining the national football league? >> this is about restoring common decency. >> a lobbyist pushes legislation to ban gay players from the nfl. >> he said he came up with the idea after michael sam came out as a gay man. >> i wish you would see me as michael sam, the football player. >> we expect to have a lot of support. >> i just want to do what i love to do. that's play football. >> today's top trender, bias
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cuts. >> we have to decide if we want to be a state that continuing to legislate hate or we want to be a state that's open for doing business with everybody. as arizona's discriminatory bill gets pushed back. and senator mccain echoed the sentiment. >> i've got plenty of time. >> it's call the press railings of religion on you freedom act. >> they say the gold is to protect people and businesses. >> there will be people saying i won't serve muslims or won't serve anyone who's gay. how do they know? >> religious liberty protections are there to be a shield, to protect your religion, not a sword to hurt other people's religion. >> i spoke to progressives in phoenix on saturday night, and of course this is a big story.
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they were all shaking their heads in embarrassment. they cannot believe the republicans in the house and senate have passed this, and now it's going to one person, the governor, who says she's going to do the right thing. what's the delay? joining mess is congressman mcdermott. it's good to have you with us. it seems as though they're trying to out-crazy one another. we have fought discrimination in this country for decades to get where we are. if this isn't a step back, i don't know what is, do you view this in just amazement? ivities. >> when i heard about this this morning, i thought to myself i thought i had seen every crazy thing in the world. first of allsh are it's unconstitutional and wrong, it's -- what do you do if somebody -- are you going to say are you gay or straight?
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if you're gay, you'll have to leave. i'm nothing to serve you. what kind of craziness is this? there's no way this can work. >> this bill gives business owners the legal room to say get out of my store, because you have a turban on. i think there's other things that play into this. how a person looks will be judged. they'll have the legal backing to say i wouldn't serve them because it was against my religious beliefs. isn't there a broad area here for interpretation that could lead to confrontation? >> well, we actually this that in seattle. if you remember back in 2001, we had a sikh, a man with a turban, beaten almost to death. he owned a motel. one of the people in there thought he was one of the people causing all the problems in new york, and used the baseball bat on him.
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>> we formed the seattle hate-free zone immediately, we don't care what you look like or who you are, you are safe in this city. in arizona this is opening all the awfulness. >> that's exactly what it does. we know how they love firearms in arizona. i think this opening the door for confrontation. there's going to be an interpretation made at the scene why someone is not being served when they're being discriminated against in their minds, and of course by the law, we back it up. what's amazing to me is that all day long i've heard, say, there's a lot of republicans against it. there's a lot of reps in arizona. no, no, wait a minute, hold on. hold on. the republicans in the house and the senate, they passed this this is what they want as a majority body in a state. they want to discriminate. they want to target and they
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want to open the door to confrontation. now it's up to the governor to set them all straight. no, the republicans are for this. i don't think we can give them any room on this. your thoughts on that, congressman. >> well, i hope that the people of arizona remember that this is a representative government, and that when election time comes, they throw the whole bunch out. people who would vote for it and absent as it's a reasonable thing simply don't represent most americans, most people in arizona. i can't believe that they are representative of the people. i think they'll get it in the next election. >> i hope so, you know, the arizona progressives are getting organized. i was rather impressed with, you know, how much heart and desire they have to make a change. maybe this will do it. this will open their eyes in the second session. i opened this up saying that
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states are trying to out-crazy each ear. how about in georgia? paul brown laid out his criteria for voting on a bill. i want there are four questions i'm asked about. the first, is it constitutional according to the original intent? the second -- does it fit the christian biblical principles our nation was founded on. three, do we need it? four, can we afford it? >> does his record back up those judeo christian principles? >> i don't know his record well enough, but i doubt he's followed them very much. it's trying to make this a religious country is just not the american way. there's always compromises. we are made up of muslims and we are made up of property assistants and catholics and jews, and bahai, and all kinds
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of people in this country. anybody who wants to run their lives simply on the biblical principles is not able to make the compromises necessary to make this society work. we're not all one religion our all one group. we have to live with people who are a little bit different than us. that requires some flexibility. he's talking as though, if you just read it in the bible, that's it. there's a lot of stuff in there i'm not sure you would go along with. >> well, whatever happened to the day you're doing just what your constituents want. i wish we could get back to that. >> we will. >> i appreciate your time. coming up, more from the divided heartland, i sat down with proponents. and one of the strongest lobbying efforts the nebraska has ever seen. my exclusive interview. >> i think that both sides of the issue have had adequate time to debate the issue and put forth both sides of the
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. welcome back to our ask ed live segment. appreciate all the questions. now joining in on the conversation or the social media pages, and you can get the question. this is new. all right. let's go to ask ed live. our first question tonight. it comes from john. why does scott walker get away with lying and stealing from the people of wisconsin? i have a different question, and i'll get to this in a moment. a state that is so rich in activism, a state that never takes anything sitting down, it just seems they're awful quiet in the heels of this, after all these e-mails that have come out.
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where are the 14 senators that left the state? where's the pressure on the prosecutor to give the public a statement to how walker could escape prosecution, when they clearly illustrates that he knew about the secret e-mail detail that was going on in the system when he was county executive. i just find that amazing. why does scott walker get away where lying and stealing from the people of wisconsin? well, i guess he's just a master at it. i don't know. this is amazing to me he has escaped prosecution, but there is another investigation going on. the deals with this recall and the way he ran that campaign. our next questions is from christina. do you think the gop can find anyone to run in 2016 that isn't involved in some sort of scandal? well, let's see. i have jindal making a pretty good case for it yesterday, hogging the microphones and cameras, trying to be kind of a
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troublemaker? we have christie, walker, we've got rick scott, gosh, they've got a lot of governors in trouble, but there is one left. john kasich of ohio may be the new rising star when it comes to presidential hopefuls on the right. all right. final question tonight comes from david -- if you lived in the path of the keystone xl pipeline, would you let it go through your front yard? that's a heck of a question. fehr of all, i don't think these people are going to be able to stop it. they might be able to, so i'll put myself on the front line in nebraska. no, i wouldn't want it coming across, but i would exhaust every angle they would pay me as much as i could possibly get if it did go through, so i could buy a nice place somewhere else. i'm now on the fence on this issue. i think this discovery that we have done on this story in
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welcome back to "the ed show." tonight we continue our examination of the keystony pipeline. our team was on the ground last friday finding out the facts. this is the divided heartland and the american debate. canadian government officials are determined to see this project through. people are pressuring the president for a decision, and the folks in nebraska are in the middle of this flight claiming trans-canada is cash whipping everybody in the path of the proposed pipeline. ♪ this oil pipe did not line already goes through nebraska, part of a previous project. proponents of the keystony say this is evidence another major project will only be up side for the region and the country.
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they feel this is nothing to be concerned about. >> i watched them through this whole process, you know farming right next to where it was working, how careful they were to bend the pipes, grove the bottom of the trenches so the pipe laid in there just perfect. the welding, x-ray stuff that went on. i was really confident. i was very impressed. >> to your knowledge what's the difference between this and the keystone xl project? >> for one thing it goes in a different direction. it's a shortcut, but i believe that as far as pressures, size of the peep and stuff, it's pretty much the same. >> similar in operations? >> similar. >> so what's your response to those concerned about coming over the aquifer. >> i think they've alleviated that process be going up around it in the sand hills. we have aquifers all over in the state. they have ways of monitoring
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this. the oil will come up if we ever have a leak. i just don't anticipate there will be a problem. >> you don't feel any environmental threat at all? >> no, i don't. no, i don't. of course, i'm racing crops right on top of this pipe. you know, i had all kinds of things where the ground won't freeze and it would be soft there, everything else. never a problem. >> some of the concerns of the antis of the xl, is that it's an international corporation. how have they been to deal with? >> i see some toyota cars here, parts for your dodge pickup are probably coming from overseas. it's just the way it works in these days. we take care of other nations. other nations take care of us. we work together on these things. a lot of our ag products get shipped overseas, so the oil companies will probably have a market for their products over there, too. >> are you surprised at the
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pushback? itches yeah, i think it's political. i think it's gotten way out of hand. way too much time has been put into it, money talks. that's what's making it work now. i'm really disappointed it's a black eye on our nation that it's taken so long to get this done. >> to not have it? >> that's correct. >> this pipeline went online in 2010. there have been what the company says minor events, but it is also the pipeline that had a major spill in north dakota. those who were adamantly opposing the project say this spill in north dakota from another pipeline is a big reason for concern. this oil disaster released over a million gallons, will take at least two years to clean up. it got virtually no national media attention. they question -- what if this happens over the aquifer in nebraska? they claim it could be devastating. >> you know, there's a vast
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amount of water right there. in the sand and gravel mixture, if there's a crack, a leak, anything like that, it's going to get into that porous material and going to be in that water very rapidly. >> so contamination could be permeating throughout the whole system before people could realize exactly what's going on? >> exactly. and somebody's going to be dead or some livestock is going to be dead and they're going to wonder what the heck happened here, and it's going to be bad water. >> oil officials say they have helped train local volunteer fire departments in case of an oil spill emergency. we were unable to confirm that. there have been other spills from this pipeline, the most recent in north dakota was cleaned up in 7 to 10 days, and oil initials say there was no damage. local elected officials in york and butler county, nebraska,
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claims tax revenue would be a big financial help. >> it's been about a $19 million boost or increase in property tax value to our county because of the pipeline has gone through. >> and what about jobs? there have been estimates the pipe did not line will bring thousands of jobs in construction along the route. that plays being with union workers and the economy. >> this is the largest construction project that we see on the books with the pla, signed by trans-canada to employ union workers with good paying jobs and benefits for them and their families. >> as for long-term employment, even county officials say the pipeline will bring very few jobs for the long haul once the project is completed. >> jobs not so much in the county. they have people that come through the pipeline to service
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these stations not from our area, but from other areas up and down the pipeline. >> it's known that there's not that many permanent jobs that are associated with in the pipe did not line at all. >> there's going to be jobs for maintenance and upkeep. will it be as many? no, but we're talking thousands of jobs for people in nebraska, and i think it's well worth it. >> still, for some, it's a no-brainer. >> this is about the safest way to handle products that there ever was. i'll tell you what, the history, the report that the folks from trans-canada have is phenomenal. we're proud of them. they've been really good neighbors to us, and we appreciate them being here. coming up, one of the biggest lobbying effort nebraska has ever seen. we'll have more on how money and influence factor into the debate over the keystone xl pipeline. more from the ed show special
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you don't build the pipeline when you're moving that oil by alternate means which are less safe. canada is still the safest place to get that imported oil, about you in fact we're moving a significant amount of that crude, and as that crude flows, we would expect the pipeline to play an even larger role in moving that product. it will pump over 800,000 barrels of tarsand oil a day. transcanada officials say that 25% of that oil in this pipeline will be oil from north dakota, which is sweet crude.
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transcanada also tells us that 90% of the landowners in nebraska have approved the pipeline coming through their line, but late this afternoon, i spoke with an advocacy i spoke with an advocacy attorney who is telling me that figure isn't correct. he says of the 275 miles of the pipe that would go through nebraska, 75 of those miles are not committed. now, the company will not say how much money they have spent in payouts to landowners to make this project happen. and local landowners tell us that it's just too much to calculate. when we come back, how money influence changed nebraska law to make this happen, only to be turned back by a district court judge and slow the project.
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welcome back to "the ed show." for the keystone xl pipeline to happen, it was inevitable some things had to change. transcanada was so determined to see this project through, they were willing to support changes to the nebraska constitution to make the pipeline a reality. a recent legal ruling has the
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pipeline construction now at a stand still. that lawsuit was brought by three landowners, everyday citizens in nebraska just fighting for their property rights. this is almost david and goliath in the environmental fight for america. ♪ it's one of the strongest lobbying efforts ever seen in nebraska politics. transcanada spent hundreds of thousands of dollars for the proposed extension of the keystone xl pipeline in an effort to change legislative control. >> they were elected to represent us. they were elected to represent our families. their salary is paid by our tax dollars, not transcanada. and transcanada had no right to come into our state and not only threaten eminent domain, but start to change our state constitution. >> when our politicians decide to trade away our property rights, you know, we need to step up and do something about
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it. >> legislative action gave nebraska governor dave heineman the executive authority to approve the pipeline. former nebraska state senator abby cornett talked about the power shift. >> there was heavy lobbying on both sides. >> over a million dollars transcanada has spent lobbying our state senators. we have a uni -- there is 49 state senators. they spent over a million dollars. they bought up every single lobbying firm except one so none of us could hire lobbyists to kind of be our voice. thinking group right here that are here, we're not lobbyists. those people out there, there is no lobbyist there is no people getting paid to be here. we're on our own time. >> i think the disinformation is largely stopped because they figured out it doesn't work. they're on to new and better tactics right now. >> abby cornett and other nebraskans have no problem with the way the legislature gave the governor all the power. >> at that time we felt the governor should have the
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responsibility for deciding whether the pipeline came through the state or not. >> okay. so what was the purpose of the public service commission at that point then? that was one of their major duties. >> it was. at that time they just felt that it was a better decision to have the governor determine whether we were going have the pipeline or not. >> and when that law was up for discussion, was there conversation about it possibly being unconstitutional? >> i don't remember any of that conversation, no. >> did you vote on it? >> i did. >> and you can't remember any conversation about it being unconstitutional? >> no one spoke to me about the issue of it being unconstitutional at that time. >> the constitution says we have property rights. and i have yet to see the asterisk next to that that says these rights are only yours until a big corporation wants them. >> this is just going to turn the united states into an alleyway for a foreign product going from one foreign country
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to the open market. straight down through the middle of our world and our lives and our livelihoods. >> when you were in the legislature, was there a lot of conversation about eminent domain, that landowners were concerned that they just didn't want this structure on their land and they felt powerless? >> there were a few landowners that came in and discussed that issue. the majority of landowners, though, in nebraska, i believe well over 90% voluntarily entered into contracts with transcanada for the pipeline. but there were discussions than, yes. >> we'll continue our special series, "divided heartland: the american divide" tomorrow with members of the rosebud sioux tribe. their landfalls on the path of the proposed pipeline. i spoke with former nebraska state senator abbie cornett about the concerns that the tribal members had. >> were there concerns and conversation about the native americans who claimed that this
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pipeline would be going over some culturally sacred grounds? >> i never was contacted by any of the tribal leaders. i know that was a point that was brought up by one of the groups, but none of the tribes ever spoke to me about it. >> did you notice them ever lobbying about their concerns at the time? >> oh, constantly. we've had quite a bit of lobbying on the issue of white clay, which is up by the indian reservation. we've had issues in regards to cross deputization issues in regards to taxation for cigarettes. so quite a bit of -- the tribe is very active. >> tomorrow we'll take you live to the rosebud sioux reservation in south dakota for a compelling part of the pipeline debate. they are concerned about safety. they're concerned about the environment, and they also say that the pipeline would be very close to culturally sensitive land. part of the safety they're concerned with is there is just not much law enforcement up in
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that area. and god forbid if something were to happen, they're afraid of some possible confrontation. that story comes to msnbc and "the ed show" tomorrow night from south dakota. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, al. >> good evening, rev. thanks to you for tuning. in i'm live tonight from atlanta, georgia. tonight's lead, dick cheney and the gop war on the poor. right after the obama administration announced historic military cuts, dick cheney, of all people, had the nerve to say this in an interview with fox news. >> i think the whole thing is not driven by any change in world circumstances. it's driven by budget considerations. much rather spend the money on food stamps than he would on a strong military or support for our troops. >> there is so much to say about that comment.