putin on the line. the president, his russian counterpart, vladimir putin, and an hour-long telephone conversation. this morning, competing versions of how that conversation played out. the president heads south one hour from now to miami, but first he'll deliver a speech on expanding the middle class at a florida high school. then, well, a warm weather weekend for the first family. and on top of the ukraine question, the president will also pass on air force one, a jobs report that's rosier than expected. already the markets are reacting. take a look, the dow up at this point 36 points. good morning, i'm chris jansing. we'll get to all that, but we begin today with day two at cpac, which got under way about an hour ago, day two featuring a trio of guys who wanted to be president, but failed.

rick perry opened today's program. rick santorum is going to be there, mike huckabee, while the main event to wrap up today with senator rand paul, one who has presidential aspirations of his own. it is fitting a big theme so far has been winning. >> what i want to talk to y'all about this morning is how we win. >> i think the left is exhausted. our side is energized, and on election day, we're going to win. >> if ever there was an advertisement for a republican senate, this is it. >> let's come out of this conference resolved to win elections again. that's what i intend to do for the next year. >> i want to bring in our company, josh barro is now a national correspondent for "the new york times" and an msnbc contributor. perry bacon, political editor for the grio. robert costa. good morning, gentlemen, robert, since you're there, i want to start with you. you had pretty good access at

cpac and we're going to get to that in a moment, but what do you think is the biggest headline out of day one? what are people buzzing about most as day two gets under way? >> well, among conservative activists, there are two big stories, one is that donald trump remains, as ever, a conservative favorite, but number two, chris christie had a solid showing. he was able to win over activists, slammed the media, slammed democrats, even slammed the president, who he once had friendly relations with. >> if i can, i'm going to start where they started today, that is rick perry, who frankly had so much energy at 9:00 in the morning, he must have awakened everyone within earshot. take a look. >> get out of the health care business! get out of the education business! stop hammering industry! let the sleeping giant of american enterprise create prosperity again! my fellow conservatives, the future of this nation is upon

you. it belongs to you. you have the power to change america. you have the power to speak to our newest hopes, in addition to our age-old dreams. >> he was firing up the base there, josh, but here's the thing if you're going to talk about winning, obviously, the republicans figured out how to win the house. they think they might have the winning formula for the senate this time around, but the white house, where are they on that? >> well, i think with chris christie, his star having fallen over the past few months, it's unclear who's -- >> although he really got a positive response yesterday. >> i don't know. i read mix reports on that. interested to know what bob thought about what he saw there. >> let me stop you there. robert, what was the mood there for that? >> for chris christie? >> yeah. >> or for rick perry? >> chris christie. >> for chris christie, it was really interesting, he comes in as someone who had a lot of skepticism among conservatives, but there was a sense that chris christie was not going to have

purple state rhetoric, wasn't going to move to the center as he has in major addresses in the past. this was chris christie looking ahead to 2016, knowing he needs to head into the 2016 election and compete in places like iowa and south carolina whose voters democrats are very much like cpac. >> well, he didn't even get invited to cpac last year, and for people who didn't see it yesterday, let me play a little clip of chris christie. if i wait a second, will we have it? i'm going to things out of order here, i can read it if we're not going to have it. we have it now. let's look. >> we don't need, mr. president, your opinion on what income inequality is. we don't have an income inequality problem, we have an opportunity inequality problem in this country, because government's trying to control the private market. >> you know -- >> you know, it's really interesting, perry, when you watch him.

it was kind of a very different chris christie than the one, certainly, who was praising president obama after hurricane sandy. i was there yesterday and chris christie i thought got a strong reception. i don't think he has a lot of fans there. the straw poll tomorrow, i'm sure chris christie will be a top three, but yesterday you saw a chris christie with conservative messages, criticizing obama pretty harshly, taking out obamacare. the crowd there liked him yesterday a lot. >> josh, a couple things in play. one is, if you're chris christie or any of these guys, is this going to help position you, at least with the conservative wing with the party for your run in 2016, but the second part, circling back to where we started, are they going to be able to figure out a winning formula for president? >> that's what you do at cpac. it's more, frankly, about your pitch being seen on television by people who are not in the room, having been on a panel at cpac a few years ago, it's a lot of retirees and college students

there, but it does matter for positioning, but i think the problem is going to be finding somebody who can thread the needle between activating that base and the sort of people who attend cpac and connecting with moderate general election voters. that was supposed to be what chris christie's strength was. he's not in a position to do that and it's not clear who else can do both of those things. >> we have talked so much about the difference between winning the nomination and being able to get elected during the general. talk to me about somebody who can get elected, who can win over moderates, that's sort of one end of the party, the other end of the party is ted cruz. here's what he said yesterday. >> and they say if you stand for principle, you lose elections. the way to do it, the smart way, the washington way, is don't stand against obamacare, don't stand against the debt ceiling, don't stand against nothing! i want to tell you something, that is a false dichotomy.

you want to lose elections, stand for nothing. >> so perry, is it clear there who's winning that argument, that the way to win is to be more moderate or the way to win is to keep to your conservative values? >> i didn't hear that argument yesterday. paul ryan said something similar to what ted cruz said, the key is to be conservative and the country is going to move toward us. both invoked ronald reagan, ronald reagan lost in '76, came back in 1980 and won. the country moved toward them. yesterday, from what i heard, there wasn't a big debate about whether we should move to the left or move to the right. this is a strong conservative crowd. they were more talking about how right now the conservative arguments are winning. obamacare, not doing as well as people thought. there was a lot of talk about winning yesterday, mainly winning on conservative ideas as opposed to moving to the left too much. >> robert, you've gotten a good behind the scenes look at cpac.

because of cpac's growth in recent years, because of hundreds of reporters and thousands of attendees toting camera phones, many politicians are not as eager to roam through conference halls. so, has this sort of changed the equation, i don't want to say necessarily about the significance of cpac, but about how people, obviously, play cpac to their advantage or not? >> when cpac first started back in the '70s, this was a place where ronald reagan, before he was president, would roam around a washington hotel, connect with conservative activists and there was a low key nature, but now it's almost become a corporate style event, a lot of corporations, companies, conservative groups, they have booths here, talk radio presence, and you don't have the same kind of mingling. it's much more of a tightened event, a lot of media scrutiny.

>> i can't let the whole cpac conversation go without talking about donald trump, who gave his take yesterday on the crisis in ukraine. >> i was in moscow a couple months ago, i own the ms. universe pageant, and they treated me so great. putin even sent me a present, beautiful present with a beautiful note, i spoke to all of his people, and, you know, you look at what he's doing with president obama, he's, like, toying with him. he's toying with him. >> josh, i know it's my job, i don't really have a question. >> i don't know, you're going to have to come up with some since he's going to become the next governor of new york. we're going to be dealing with him more over the next couple years. >> more to come for all of us to talk about. josh barro, perry bacon, robert costa. thank you, gentlemen. >> thanks, chris. meantime, coming up, we dig in on ukraine, more developments, more posturing, another phone call as the clash between the white house and

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we're just getting in this breaking news from the u.s. capitol. what a dramatic picture. this traffic accident near the capitol dome. you can see the vehicle is actually vertical against a tree. apparently it went airborne at one point. the driver has been transported to an area hospital and we'll continue to follow developments as they investigate that. a second phone call in a week between president obama and vladimir putin, this one an hour

long. big focus on secession. crimea's attempt to break away from ukraine and join russia would be illegal. >> the proposed referendum on the future of crimea would violate the ukrainian constitution and violate international law. any discussion about the future of ukraine must include the legitimate government of ukraine. >> as well, the white house makes a full court press on the diplomatic front. speaker john boehner was less than diplomatic ahead of a house vote that approved loans for ukraine. >> you've heard me call president putin a thug, because he is. he's counting on the united states to sit back and watch him do whatever he wants. >> let's bring in adam schiff, member of the intelligence committee and foreign operations subcommittee. good morning.

>> thanks, chris, good morning. >> you voted with a huge majority to approve legislation to allow the administration to provide those loan guarantees that would help shore up their economy. what's next, though? >> next, i think, have to be the enforcement of sanctions. it certainly looks at this point they are going to go forward with this referendum, this so-called vote in the crimea region, but, of course, having a vote on what's essentially annexation while the crimea is occupied by russian troops doesn't pass the lab test, so i think we're going to have to step up sanctions and work with our european allies and impose real costs. it won't be necessarily enough to get the russian troops out of crimea or back to their bases or reverse this effort to annex crimea, but ultimately putin may, while he may win this battle, he may end up losing the war, because it's hard to imagine if he goes through an x annexing crimea, there will never be a pro moscow government

in kiev. i think he'll push the rest of ukraine against moscow's sphere, potentially indefinitely if he goes forward with this. >> do you think he will? i'm curious how you read putin in this. fred hyatt suggested that putin's first goals are to stay in power and preserve his personal access and the access of his friends to the wealth of russia. >> well, that probably is very accurate assessment. will he go forward with it? i think now he's put forces in motion where not only are russians in crimea excited about the chance to unite with russia, but russians back home have the expectation of getting the crimea back. now that he's raised these expectations, if he doesn't follow through, it could pose a problem for him. he could take a body blow in terms of his popularity back home, so having unleashed this genie, may find it hard to put back in the bottle. but we need to make sure we

don't compete in hindsight a mistake with georgia, not sticking with cuts, not having the staying power to make sure russia pays a very heavy price. we can't turn them back if putin is determined to annex crimea, but we can make it very costly, we can take away his standing on the world stage, but we have to be willing to bear the cost, as well, because in our effort to impose banking sanctions, trade sanctions, energy sanctions, it will, you know, cost us economically, as well as europe, in order to impose those costs on russia. >> i want to talk about the energy component of this, which is getting a lot of talk on capitol hill, but respond to something marco rubio said yesterday at cpac, putting some of the blame for the crisis on the president. take a listen. >> i don't like to make these issues of national security partisan, because it's important our country be united in moments like this, but we cannot ignore

the flawed foreign policy of the last few years has brought us to this stage. we have a president thinking he could shape the behavior of other nations and other people. >> this has been a theme that we've heard from some members of congress from some members of the republican party, that the president grossly miscalculated vladimir putin. do they have a point? >> i don't think so, and i love that setup, which is let's not be divisive or partisan while i'm being divisive and partisan. we see a lot of that double talk, frankly. no, a lot of people in the gop want to lay this at the president's door. the reality is, that ukraine was slipping away from putin. people want to paint putin as this master chess player and say the president is playing dominos, but if putin was such a master chess player, he would not have allowed the ukraine to move towards that agreement with the eu. we would not have seen his $15 billion bribe turned down and his puppet thrown out.

this is sort of an action, desperate act of last resort by putin, and i think hardly it reflects ill on the president, but it does reflect very ill on putin. >> and let me ask you about the energy component. europe gets 30% of its natural gas there, which is one reason why it's hard for european allies to get tough with putin. the state department has been accelerating an effort to ship vast stockpiles to europe, but how realistic is this in giving the west more leverage against vladimir putin, and, obviously, any change in energy policy is not going to play out over days, it's going to play out over years. >> well, that's exactly right, chris, it is realistic in the mid and long term. in the near term, it's not going to impact whether they go forward with a referendum in two weeks to annex crimea, but it's nonetheless steps we should be taking. it could have a profound impact on russia. the russia economy is so petrol

dependent that doing that is entirely possible, then we can really raise the costs for this kind of reckless violation of international law. this is definitely something we should pursue, helping europe become energy independent, helping ukraine diversify its energy sources, but that's something i think is going to have much more impact in the midterm. >> congressman adam schiff, thanks for getting up early, we appreciate it. let me bring in david rohde and mark ginsburg. gentlemen, i want to start with you, we had a conversation about energy and about that conversation that now is expanding in washington. what can be done, what is likely to get done, what's realistic here in that component? >> to be honest, we've been caught flat footed on this. i think the criticism of president obama in terms of he should have been tougher with putin is an accurate george w. bush was very tough in the georgia crisis in 2008, it didn't matter, but we have not had a strategy over the past

years. we don't have ports to load our natural gas on to ships to take it to europe. we are just starting the construction now, congress has been stalling this, as well. the earliest date for actually sending out large amounts of natural gas to europe is 2016 or 2017, so, again, putin has moved more quickly than us and we have been caught flat footed on this. >> something new is happening every day, ambassador. it's been a whirlwind week, the president with the two phone calls with putin authorizing sanctions and visa restrictions, sending military assets to eastern europe. we've seen the pro ukraine demonstrations outside the white house. where are we, where do you see us right now in our response to this crisis? >> with all this diplomatic frenzy, chris, the bottom line is what congressman schiff just mentioned, putin is determined to force the annexation of crimea and the united states and hopefully the european allies will impose the biting sanctions on russia, but let's remember,

mr. putin has his equivalent of a monroe doctrine in eastern and southern europe and he's determined to pursue it. the question is, what happens to the rest of ukraine when he manages to get his hands on crimea? it's a kpcomplicated country wi a complicated history. there's going to be more secessionist votes and i don't believe no matter what secretary kerry and mr. lavrov, the foreign minister of russia, tries to do, it's going to unwind essentially what mr. putin's accomplished. >> we have this longstanding list of connections crimea has with russia, part of russia until 1954, home to the black sea naval base, 60% of crimean citizens identify themselves as russian, so this declaration yesterday has been reported as extremely popular among ethnic russians on the crimean peninsula, ambassador, so how difficult is it to convince putin to leave after being given

what some people see as a very big opening? >> well, he's not going to leave. let's understand that our policy here has got to be far more effective across what to do about the future of what is essentially the remainder of ukraine, because he's going to do everything he can to put his puppet back in charge, that's mr. yanukovych. he wants a russian-leaning supportive leader in ukraine. he's going to do everything he can to destabilize. remember, chris, one of the things here that's very important, we're trying to fight for $1 billion of loan guarantees and ukraine needs $35 billion just to stay afloat, just to stay afloat. the country is bankrupt, and so no matter what the europeans and the united states does here, if mr. putin is able to keep playing his infiltration game, it's going to be very hard to stabilize ukraine in the next few months. >> is there doubt in your mind, david, the separatist leaders are coordinating actions with russia? >> i think they are. putin is very clever, he toned

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congressman darrell issa apologizing after that nasty exchange with elijah cummings at a hearing where issa cut the

microphone. that dramatic scene playing out wednesday during the committee hearing investigating the irs. it led to calls from the black caucus to remove issa from the oversight committee, which he chairs. cummings says issa called him last night, cummings accepted the apology and wrote a statement, "my sincere hope is that as we move forward, we will respect the opinions of all members of the committee." i want to bring in goldie taylor, who's featured on the grio every monday. republican strategist rick tyler is a former spokesman for newt gingrich and joins us from cpac. good to see both of you. goldie, let me start with you. how important was it for darrell issa to apologize? >> i think it was important for darrell issa to apologize. one, i don't think he knew what the visuals would look like on the outside of this thing. would there be any political ramifications for what he did? no. who would be in a position to make him pay for an act like

this? no one was going to strip him of his committee membership over this, so there were no real ramifications for doing something like this, other than bad press, and the only way to sort of stop some of that was to really issue an apology, so i think he did what he had to do, but not what he should have been forced to do, which is give up that committee assignment. >> rick, what do you think happened here, do you agree with her? do you think he apologized because he did something wrong or just wants the focus back on the irs, what do you think happened? >> i think the fact that darrell issa apologized to elijah cummings shows the character of darrell issa. you know, he, obviously, upset comings, which i think was faux jaut rage, but nevertheless, wanted to get it by him. what we're not talking about is the fact lois lerner took the fifth amendment, fifth amendment is designed to keep people from self incriminating so lois lerner believes she committed a crime, but no one is asking what

is the crime lois lerner committed? instead, we're focused on the fact that darrell issa, who had every right as chairman to adjourn the meeting. he decided not to give his opening statement and decided to give his opening statement out of order. there are rules in the committee. elijah cummings has been there long enough to understand the rules of the committee. he broke the rules. i thought chairman aissa went ot of his way. he didn't want to answer, he wanted to pontificate and is now using this as a way to distract from the real issue, which is what is lois lerner covering up and what crime did she commit? >> let me correct one thing, first, for tyler. invoking the fifth amendment gives no presumption of any guilt on any level. that's what the right against self incrimination really is. i want to sort of correct you on that. and on the other side of this, saying that elijah cummings did not have the right to say exactly what he wanted to say, he didn't have to ask a question, didn't have to say

something that maybe issa would approve of, he had the right to say what he wanted to say. >> rick, if i can, because there's been a lot going on at cpac, speakers have been having some fun at the democrats' expense and, of course, president obama is a favorite target. let's take a listen. >> we have a president who believed by the sheer force of his personality he would be able to shape global events. >> under president carter, i want to issue a sincere apology. it is no longer fair to say he was the worst president of this great country in my lifetime. president obama has proven me wrong. >> the president of the united states is treating our constitution worse than a place mat at denny's. >> is this a message, rick, to the democrats, this is what you're going to hear come 2016? >> well, i think there's a lot of things to criticize about president obama, and you heard a lot of the hyperbole there. i think president obama is trying to excuse executive

orders to go around the constitution. he just suspended his own law, his own signature legislation, obamacare, arbitrarily, against the law, against the will of the congress, why? because it's not going to work. so, look, we're having a ball herement i'm probably one of the oldest people here. this is a young crowd, they are very excited about the speakers they have and the speakers have mostly done a very good job at winning over what i would call mainstream america right here at cpac. >> rick, you always bring a lot of energy, but goldie, seems feisty and happy with what he's hearing from republicans. are you hearing stuff there's democrats in the room taking notes and saying, okay, we have to get our ducks in a row, because they've got some good arguments here when it comes to the presidential election? >> you know, i think, you know, cpac is a lot like a tent revival meeting where you get the party faithful in the room, whip them up, out on the street, raising money, going door-to-door. there's certainly a need for cpac for the republican party. i think that's the right thing to do, but as my son said

yesterday when he was watching some of the speeches, mom, this is the point where they lose the white house again, because you listen to some of the rhetoric, listen to some of the things paul ryan has been saying, some of the things ted cruz has been saying, even some of the things governor chris christie is saying, and they really don't sort of strike a direct correlation with the truth here, and so i think we're going to have some real problems because of something called videotape, with them reaching out to the middle, them reaching out to the core of america to win this next election. as long as they keep playing these kinds of very, very base politics, they are going to find themselves in an awful lot of trouble come 2016. >> i appreciate the decorum shown to "jansing and co." thanks to both of you and have a great weekend. >> thank you. let's check the news feed this morning. even more dra mma at the oscar pistorius murder trial, facing his ex-girlfriend as she was testifying against him. samantha taylor talked about his guns, his temper, and twice she got so emotional, the trial had

to take a break. >> this relationship, how did it end finally? >> he cheated on me with reeva steenkamp. >> take your time, please. we'll just pause for a moment. >> reeva steenkamp, of course, the woman he is accused of killing. taylor said he kept his gun on him all the time, even saw him shoot a gun through a car's sunroof when he got angry police pulled him over. 23 athletes from ukraine compete in sochi, russia, but ukrainian officials say those athletes will leave if there's any escalation in the conflict. the games kick off today with the opening ceremony and several countries, including the u.s., have decided not to send official government delegations. just a reminder as you head off into your weekend, daylight saving's time starts on sunday at 2:00 a.m. kind of good news, bad news. of course, we gain more

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corner on the job market. we will have to watch the next couple of months. good news is the severe winter weather we were talking about on set yesterday, chris, it does look to have had less of a dampened effect on hiring by u.s. companies than we were fearing, but it is a dilemma to policy makers, because we have to try to ascertain the extent of the impact on the economy and hiring from this weather. you know, is it just temporary, is it a more worrying underline weakening of the economy? all these questions. a real bright spot, though, i found in the job report and that is an increase in the average hourly earnings. twice expectations. this is something we really need when you consider how much commodity prices have gone up. breakfast costs more, coffee prices have gone up, oj prices, bacon prices, rents have been going up. anything we can see in more wages or wage growth is good. >> real money to what some consider funny money. this has turned into an intrigue, almost soap opera-ish,

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senators breaking ranks, rand paul and ted cruz, but senator lindsey graham says that vote will come back to haunt them. >> you want to be commander in chief? you told me a lot today about who you are as commander in chief. you were willing to fire every commander in the military. for reasons i don't quite understand. so we'll have a good discussion as to whether or not you understand how the military actually works. >> next move, a vote next week on senator claire mccaskill's bill that keeps the chain of command intact. as the votes were playing out, an army officer in charge of prosecuting these types of crimes was suspended after being accused of groping and kissing a female lawyer back in 2011. joining me now, amy ziering. good to see you, good morning.

>> thanks for having me. >> she fought hard, a lot of people fought hard. what do you think happened yesterday? >> well, mirroring the sentiments of the vast majority of americans, a majority of senators were willing to vote in favor of senator gillibrand's bill and what happened is a majority of senators voted cynically to block her bill from even coming up for a vote and what it has done is allowed this epidemic to continue unchecked. >> the husband of a former marine who says she was raped in d.c.'s barracks recently talked about his wife's horrific experience and i want to play what he had to say. >> i'm lucky to marry someone so strong that she could do it, even if she still suffers and has never been the same. >> and i know that you have made a lot of connections with folks who have been victims. i wonder what you're hearing from them, their reaction to what happened in congress. >> well, of course, they are extremely upset and they are

very hurt. they feel betrayed again, but i must say they represent the best of the american hearts and spirit and they are determined to fight on and they know it's going to be a long road to justice, but they are committed to making sure their voices are heard and making sure this never, ever happens to another service member, which is why they have so courageously been speaking up. >> what have you and what have they tried to say to the senators against the gillibrand bill? because you heard what lindsey graham said, you don't get how the military works. >> i beg to disagree. we do get how the military works. we've interviewed hundreds of surviv survivors, we've interviewed former military officials, we've interviewed commanders. we did extensive research, four years of it, and i'm a citizen. i would be happy to say the system's working. i would be happy to support and endorse reforms that were really worked and, unfortunately, the system isn't working and that's

why we're all compelled to speak up and say, please, it needs to be changed, we really need to stop this from happening. >> let's talk, amy, about what happens next. obviously, it's not everything you wanted, but let's assume claire mccaskill's bill passes. do you see that as a step forward and could it lay the groundwork for changing the system and taking prosecution out of the chain of command? >> you know, prosecutions need to be taken out of the chain of command. according to dod statistics themselves, a vast very large number of these crimes are committed by commanders themselves, so if you leave this structure in place, what you're leaving in place is a system which allows criminals to be their own judge and jury. it's not complicated, it's just common sense. so, unfortunately, we can't have this continue to go on, and i appreciate all the reforms that senators have passed since our film came out, there's been close to 19 bills and i think 35 meaningful reforms actually passed and pushed into legislation and they are all

good, but until you really address the problem that's the heart of this problem, unfortunately, you're going to see these numbers not be reduced and you're going to see this epidemic continue to proliferate. >> amy ziering, producer of "the invisible war." thank you for coming on the program. >> thank you for having me. form is international womens they, today, events are held around the world to inspire women to celebrate achievements and today's tweet of the day comes from salomon amad. there are two powers in the world, one is the sword and the other is the pen. there's a third power, stronger than both, that of the woman. #womensday. ouncer ] we know they're out there. you can't always see them. but it's our job to find them. the answers. the solutions. the innovations. all waiting to help us build something better. something more amazing. a safer, cleaner, brighter future.

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to politics now and something you might have missed at cpac, donald trump reminiscing about past presidents. >> we're getting into jimmy carter territory.

and i never thought i'd see anything like that again. i lived through that time, and it was not a good time. and we're pretty close. i think maybe by next month we will have surpassed the late, great jimmy carter. >> the late great jimmy carter. that's news to his family, considering that he's still alive. carter's grandson, james carter, reacted to trump's comments with this tweet, "i'm pretty sure i would have heard about that." meantime, bernie sanders of vermont tells "the nation" magazine he's prepared to run for president in 2016. here he is on "the ed show" last night. >> obviously, there is so much profound disgust with the two-party system that being an independent works well. on the other hand, you have to build an entire political infrastructure. that is very, very difficult to do. >> and he may have fumbled the spelling, but president obama has nothing but respect for the queen of soul, aretha franklin. >> what aretha first told us

what r-s-p-e-c-t meant to her, she had no idea it would become a rallying cry for african-americans. >> last night's audience was pretty forgiving of the president's misspelling moment. why do i get the feeling, though, that michelle obama is making the most of that in their house? okay. by the way, that event was part of a pbs special honoring the women of soul. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm chris jansing. "news nation" with tamron hall is up next. have a great weekend, and i'll see you back here monday morning. defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed.

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expected 175,000 jobs in february, indicating the severe winter weather did not have a big negative impact as had been feared. the encouraging numbers follow two straight months of disappointing figures on hiring, however, the nation's unemployment rate did tick up a tenth of a point to 6.7%. as more people started looking for jobs out there. in a statement issued in the past hour, the white house said, despite bad weather, job growth picked up from the december and january pace. nevertheless, the unemployment rate remains elevated. and far too many americans' wages have been slow to rise. wall street's reaction to all of this, let's take a look. the dow is up 37 points. the s&p also higher. the nasdaq is up, as well. joining me now, slate magazine columnist, author of the new book "the leading indicators," a short history of the numbers that rule the world. yet again, zachary, we're talking about a number of that

not only rules the world, it certainly ruled the tenor of our politics here. >> there was a tweet that said, people will work in the snow, who knew? because there's all this talk about weather being this negative factor and it turns out indeed people do need to work through the snow. look, the story here, as we have been talking and i think this is an ongoing dialogue, in my mind, the nature of the jobs being created, so you have, year over year, about 600,000 to 700,000 of the 1.6 million jobs that have been added over the past 12 months are in things like bars, fast food restaurants, and health care services, orderlies, and these are often jobs, why we're having the minimum wage discussion, that pay so little for a 35 to 37-hour work week that people working those jobs are barely at the poverty level. it's a positive for jobs added, but at this point we need to start talking about what is the na o