the latest from c-pac and day two of the love fest. first, we have to talk jobs and wages. the two white whales of this economy. the monthly jobs numbers came out today. it beat expectations. the unemployment was up to 6.7%. the jobs number is better than the last two months revised upwards but not what we were seeing last year when we were hitting 200,000 or more. here is the thing. we are clearly creating jobs now. everyone wants to see rising wages. year after year, average hourly earnings are up just over 2%. congratulations, americans. you are barely outpacing inflation. here is the other thing. that's not good. as paul pointed on out thursday, the current annual rise in hourly earnings is half what we saw before the great recession, which is why president obama has been hitting on the theme of not just jobs, but also the minimum

wage in his speeches. >> nobody who works full time should ever have to raise a family in poverty. [ applause ] >> that violates a basic sense of who we are. that's why it's time to give america a raise. >> yeah. >> of course, the tiny rise in wages begs the question, why so small? why are wages growing so poorly in a country where the dow is up 27% since last year. look at this chart. the data that goes from 1960 to 2012 indicates as profits go up, way up, past the historical average, wages have taken a hit. in both charts, a shift is happening, about the same time, 14 years ago. angela rise a political strategist and dan dicker,

president of america block and contributor of on the street.com. thank you for being here. dan, look at the job number today. look at it. what did it say to you about the state of the economy when it comes to jobs? >> i thought it was encouraging. we have come from a very, very bad place in terms of economic challenge over three years, especially the last three or four months x we did not get good jobs reports. considering how badly the weather has been, there was a consensus number, 145,000 jobs. i thought it was optimistic considering how bad the weather was. 175,000, which we got today, it wasn't on par with the ones we were seeing six or seven months ago was very, very encouraging. it came from places encouraging from an economy that is improving. it came from skilled workers despite the contraction, as we talk about all the time in public hiring. it's obviously going down.

in the private sector, skilled employment continues to increase and show better wages. you talk about, for example, minimum wage. an argument can be made. wages are increasing very, very slowly. it's happening though minimum wage is staying where it was in 1968. the people getting paid at this point, are those people who are skilled. it's our unskilled labor we have to bring back into the fold of our economy giving them a living wage. minimum wage is one way to do that. >> that's a good point. building on what dan said, is that the way democrats make the case on minimum wage? when you get a jobs report, it's easy to make the counter point we don't need to raise the minimum wage. >> part is making sure the folks working for our nation's biggest and best companies and the smaller businesses, they can actually survive. that's why it's so important not to call it the minimum wage, but

the living wage. you want to make sure people can thrive without having two or three jobs to make ends meet, to pay a light bill, mortgage or their rent. it's critical not just for democrats to say that, but republican members of congress and senators that need to focus on the fact there are people in their states and districts that cannot make ends meet. it's become political. it needs to change. >> one of the things you need when you get a jobs report like this, you look at the skyrocketing profits on wall street. corporate profits way up. there's a lot of money being made. the unemployment is coming down. a lot of people feel completely left behind in the economy. how do you explain this sort of growing inequality gap. what do you think caused it and what can we do about it? >> it's obvious what caused it. there's a disconnection inside

tax structure. you have carried interest. you have the lowest wages, the lowest rates of taxes for the ones who make the highest wages. we talk about this with the buffett rule. he points out, for example, he pays less taxes percentage bases than his secretary does. this causes inequality. it's very, very optimistic, useful tax policy for the richest 2% in this country while everybody else gets left behind. an increase in minimum wage, more structured income tax deferme deferment, earned income tax credit. these are necessary to bring people along in what has been the wealthy that participated. >> you have a divergence in income. you have ceos making 400 time what is the workers are making. you have to have the talk of income itself. >> there's a lot of ways to

slice the onion. one is the way ceos have been paid over the course of ten years and how that has gone up. it is the tax code for the most part that allows them to retain the money, not give it back to government so it can be redistributed, used for education and child support and snap and food stamps. all of this is under pressure because the money keeps moving toward the top and doesn't filter back to the lower class. >> looking at the president in miami, he's going to speak about issues around the economy. a lot of times when democrats are talking about the economy, they are talking employment, minimum wage, things at the lower income scale. as a strategist, is there a risk for democrats that they are not talking to the middle class that thinks a lot about taxes x tax policy and their 401(k) and wall street. is there a risk for democrats they are only aiming at the lower income scale and middle income class people tune it out? >> it's possible they can tune

it out. i think, joy, there's the heart of america, right? there are people that really understand because they have family members. if they take a step back and say not what about me, what about my family member who is struggling, let me ensure they have the opportunity to get ahead like i did. maybe i got ahead because i took out student loans and i'm paying for those things. there are other folks that don't have the opportunity to qualify for a student loan. i think it's on all of us. it's important to ensure all americans have that opportunity and they just won't if we don't address this widening income gap. >> is the income gap something that can be addressed through tax policy alone? you are saying earned income tax. democrats and republicans think it's helpful. don't we have to have the conversation about this gap between a person what an ordinary person makes and the ceo hauls home?

they are not redistributing that money back. >> that's true. i have to go back to tax policy. it's the only thing that is livable for shareholders as well as the middle class. you have to, somehow, find a way to draw back into the economy, the money that is being paid. in many cases, overpaid at the top levels of the corporate ladder. you do it through tax policy and stratas of income that go above what the top is. what you have, in many ways like a european structure. you have 25%, 30%, 40% or 50% tax bracket over $1 million or $2.5 million of earned income in a year. we haven't gotten there, yet. obviously, the republicans are against it. warren buffett has advocated for this. bill gross, a billionaire advocated for this. wealthy people see the inequality and are ready vote. i think the time is right. >> lastly, what do you expect to

hear from the president. what would be helpful for his party going into the 2014 midterms? >> job growth, but there's work left to be done. it doesn't matter we are just creating jobs. we have to make sure american people can fulfill the american dream. >> well said. thank you both. >> thank you, joy. >> all right. now an update on the situation out of ukraine. secretary of state john kerry arrived back in the u.s. from a diplomatic mission in europe. in rome, he met with his russian counter part about the situation in crimea. no resolution appears in sight, not even after a one-hour phone call between president obama and vladimir putin last night. thursday, president obama said the parliament to hold a referendum on leaving ukraine violates international law. however, as if to prove how fast the event ons the ground are moving, "the new york times" pointed out flights from crimea

to ukraine are moving in the international terminal. back here in america, we are monitoring the c-pac convention in maryland. they are further to the right of the folks at c-pac. think it's not possible? it is. president obama visiting miami. he's set to speak in 30 minutes. he's rolling out a big initiative. more reid report when we come back.

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washington at a conference. they are called uninvited, too. it could be a paranoia or i call it sypac. the granddaddy of conservative conclaves a multiday extravaganza complete with rifle ranges, tug-of of war and storm troopers. they have been swinging hard on social issues, privacy and benghazi. >> defend our country. provide a foreign policy and what the heck, deliver the mail, preferably on time and on saturdays. >> i know life begins at conception. i know that a society, a society that sacrifices its own children is no better than the ancient

philistines. i know four americans were murdered at benghazi and our government lied to us about what happened. with all due respect to hillary clinton, it does make a difference why they died and who did it. >> benghazi, ah, yes, the go-to republican battering ram, which brings me back to the outsiders. one of the attendees with a cozy spot inside the beltway, virginia thomas, wife of clarence thomas. during a panel entitled benghazigate, thomas asked the panel if the obama administration committed any crimes. in particular, providing material support to terrorists. the panel responded affirmatively. on that note, i would like to bring in republican strategist who is live at c-pac. hogan, let's talk first about jimmy thomas. a little on the conflict of interest tip, i think.

how is it that back when he was in congress, anthony weiner was speaking out about clarence thomas and his wife being an active tea partier with thomas sitting on the supreme court deciding things. is that ironic? >> it is. i have to burt your bubble somewhat here, joy. i asked everybody when i saw the topics, i couldn't find one convention goer who had a clue about that story. they obviously brought it up and told it to them. they disagreed, thought it was silly and pointed back to what we are talking about here at c-pac. conservatives say this is the wood stock of conservatism. i wasn't alive at woodstock but i have seen pictures and videos. this is not woodstock. this is much more dull.

>> don't tell people it's dull. >> it's duller than woodstock. exciting for us. >> i got it. i know you are excited to be there. >> very, very. >> i want to play a bit of ted cruz at c-pac. he took a bit of a jab at republicans. i want to play john mccain's response, then get your response. >> of course, all of us remember president dole. and president mccain and president romney. look, they are good men, they are decent men. when you don't stand and draw a clear distinction, when you don't stand for principle, democrats celebrate. >> he can say what he wants to about me and he can say anything he wants to, i think, about mitt. mitt is capable of taking it. when he throws bob dole in there, i wonder if he think that is bob dole stood for principle on that hill top in hitly when he was gravely wounded and left

part of his body there fighting for our country. >> senator dole responded saying cruz should check my voting record. i was one of president reagans strongest supporters and my record is that of a conservative republican. does it feel like the young guns, the new breed of republicans don't respect the traditions of old school traditionalism. that was a tough shot, don't you think? >> it was a tough shot. look, what i'm interested in here, the convention goers are focused on 2014. the speakers are testing the waters for 2016. what is vital to look at her is what's the reality behind the rhetoric. when chris christie says it's about winning elections, that's fine. does that mean he's going to jedson the social issues? the same for cruz when he makes comments about bob dole and john mccain.

does that mean he's never going to bend on anything, anywhere. that's what they are putting out so when they begin to lay the groundwork and come to my state of south carolina, they will know what plays and what doesn't. they are walking in, as you know, joy, no stage is bigger and no lights burn hotter than the presidential. it's going to be a different game running for president. >> i think you make a good point. sometimes i think feeding the base, it feels good to the people in the room. do you worry that some of the messaging coming out, not just c-pac, but the party as it is in washington, is really making it harder and harder in general election years for the republican party to make its case to independents? >> yeah, look, at the end of the day, you played clips from huckabee. i love the quote he says, at the end of the day, you have to govern something. a lot of people here are saying look, i like what you are saying. what have you done, what can you

do and will you do for us should you be elected? they are taking a hard look. one thing we said about obama is he has no experience and didn't pass anything. now for us to try a nominee with no experience, it doesn't make sense. it's inconsistent. a lot of folks on the floor say i'm glad, i like the rhetoric. that's great. what have you been able to accomplish in the past? a lot of guys haven't done that yet, but there's still time. >> republican strategist and quite a gentleman, thank you sir. >> god bless. >> the same day rick perry is firing up, the war on women rages on. clinics in beaumont closed their doors thursday thanks to laws making them have hospital admitting privileges. the total number of facilities providing abortions down to 24.

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that's a separate committee than the one chaired by darrel issa where we saw the huge blow up earlier this week chlgt ways and means chair dave camp says documents will be released after months of discussions. it's unclear if they will be released to the public. from the irs battle to the gun battle in a state that isn't florida is grappling with stand your ground. they repealed that state's version of stand your ground. they have to duty to retreat and meet force with force from the language of the south carolina law. florida was the first state to enact stand your ground law. gun deaths jumped by 200 in the first two years. it spread like wildfire in states, south carolina included. there are 24 states with some form on the books. the backlash is growing as

shooters use it as self-defense. it became the issue in trayvon martin in florida. it was used as a defense after the shooting death of darrel niles in columbia, south carolina. in 2010, the unarmed teen was shot sitting in a car outside a girl's home. the homeowner shot niles, an innocent bystander, by mistake. on monday, the parents of martin and davis will join a rally and march led by reverend al sharpton. democrats concede it will be an up hill battle with a republican legislature there. it remains to be seen if the fight will be as stiff in south carolina. i'm joined by harold mitchell. he chairs the legislative black caucus. senator, thank you for being here. i want to play you something that your colleague in the state

of florida, state senator chris smith, who was on the show yesterday. he said this about the chances of repealing florida's version of stand your ground. listen. >> the votes just aren't here in the state of florida. we are working on a bipartisan measure we are pushing to try to amend it and send the right message. joy, two juries in florida sent a message. i think the legislature should send a better message. >> do you think that the fight to repeal or to alter the stand your ground law in your state of south carolina will be as difficult as it promised to be in florida? >> oh, i feel that, joy, it's going to be just as much or more in south carolina. i mean, this is a hot bed of the tea party. since the press conference yesterday, the gun rights folks have already started their assault. i received several calls late last night and early this

morning telling me that if i basically came on to their property, they are going to show me how the stand your ground law works. >> i mean, i think that is what bothers people about the law, quite frankly, what you said, which is chilling, by the way. the notion they are aware of the law. they know it amplifies the self-defense statute. looking at your constituents, do you worry it increases reckless behavior by people who get in confrontations with guns? >> yes. we have seen it not only with the case there, the scott case in columbia, but there is another student hit innocently. she's paralyzed, a freshman. the shooters are claiming the exact same thing, standing your ground. this is a atmosphere we created. it's not only guns, baseball bat, knives, the attempt of

using deadly force. what we are trying to do here in south carolina with house bill 4801, the legislative black caucus, we would like to work with the republicans. it's going to be an up hill battle. this is an up hill election in south carolina. the tea party sent messages in the past. there are pieces of legislation that are near and dear to their hearts. they would do anything necessary to strike the fear in the republican members of our body. >> i want to talk about the national picture of stand your ground. fbi reports show the stand your ground is a fight unequally. from 2005 to 2010, 36% of shooting deaths with a white perpetrator and a black victim are ruled justified and 3% of shooting deaths with a black perpetrator and a white victim were called justified. a big disparity. south carolina with a substantial african-american population. have the stats been used to

rally strong support for the law and do you feel that argument polarizes the argument to the extent to make it harder? >> well, the biggest thing we are trying to show the people here starting out is that striking that section out where it's still, you know, telling people they have a right to protect themselves in their homes, their vehicles and their place of business. when it comes to that reasonable doubt or that fear that they may have outside of the castle, the home, the vehicle and a business, you know, that's the part that i have trouble, you know, a lot of trouble with. if you are in the mall, movie theater, that sense of fear that i have, i think that's where we are mixing and creating a problem here and i think you are going to see more incidences where somebody assumes that that type of fear that they are

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the '90s, a racist act. >> we are not calling people racists we think it's a racist act, some of them that embrace color think one model is enough. >> they are referring to the tendency of casting just one or two models of color failing to make the runways diverse. in the report, the feminist website found in february, 2014, white models were used for 80% of runway looks. it's held steady for years. it doesn't represent new york city let alone international fashion consumers. this is a time when the mainstream style icons including michelle obama and academy award winner. has high fashion evolved or will the lack of models of color

paint bigotry? i sat down with a legendary former model who ran her own modelling agency to ask just that. okay, beth ann, paris fashion week ended. give them a grade for diversity. >> my goodness, it's improved so much especially since last year, september. it's a great improvement. do i want to see it better, more, yes. do i want it to be permanent, yes. at least it's two models of color in each show that was always all white. >> there was a march issue in "vogue." rihanna was on the cover. you were credited with making that happen. what are some of the strategies you used to encourage the industry to change? >> you had to like, really, indicate what it is. whether you intend to or not, whether you think you are racist, that's not what i'm

saying. if you are using all white cast season to season, there's something wrong with that. we wrote a letter, indicate who dey was guilty of this and sent it to every fashion city, milan, new york, paris, london. i think everybody took heed. i think the industry, more so the media, people were stunned. i think they thought it was courageous of us. i think it's important we have to say it. >> i mean, one of the things people cited is these high fashion designers, when designing the collection, they don't invision black women wearing their collections. they don't see us. we are invisible to them. is that part of the reason we have that problem? >> i don't think they are thinking about who is buying their clothes, it's a fashion thing. who is put in front of them. we have casting directors, a huge amount of girls out of eastern europe. it got low key with the gir of color. she existed before but got

quiet. we don't want to advance and fall back and that happened. >> you as a veteran of the industry, when you were modelling, was it that overt with the director saying you are not what you are looking for. >> oh geez, we didn't have casting directors, thank god. they didn't exist. we dealt directly with the designer. that was genius of being a muse. the designers, calvin klein, they selected us. now the directors tell the designer what to do. that changed everything, it changed the game, changing and making models available. >> let's talk about the changes outside the industry. everyone is celebrating her. every designer wants to dress her. for a lot of black women, me, my daughter, we say this is a revelation. do you think she will change further what's going on in the fashion world? >> i think you have changed what's happening in the fashion world. believe you me, it's not just

about who is in a particular industry, it's seeing more of us everywhere. to me, that's what's important. she came in after what we have been doing. god bless those who took her on, too. she had other girls there, too. she put her in her advertising. we have kids in advertising. we never had that before. she is coming in on a gray carpet right now. it's what we provided but she's going to help us. >> the retail world, there have been tremendous backlashes against retailers not showing the diversity. the consumer is starting to relax. >> that's what's great about it. when you wake people up, they say okay. it's making a difference. the more they see, everyone sees that it's all okay. you have to get the right girl in. don't put the wrong one in. that's not going to last. put the right one in where we have a chance to win. >> give us action steps going forward. if consumers are concerned about

this because of a brand they love, but they are not seeing the girls whether it's during the fashion week in paris or advertising. >> they say boycott them. but my point is not always that. i think be conscious. be conscious. a lot of girls, the best accessories around. celine is someone we put a big light on before. the truth of it is, it flipped it for us. she changed it. but the point is for consumer that is need to be conscious. hear us. i'm going to stay on this. this is not something i'm going to do this year. i took my foot off the gas for four years. it made a big difference. activism is remaining active. i'm staying on it. every season, we are going to count and acknowledge. every season. >> beth ann, activist for women and doing amazing things to make sure we are seen. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> beth ann is fabulous. coming up, the continuing fallout from the blow out.

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president obama is about to speak at coral reef high school in miami. the president is expected to announce an executive order on higher education. it's part of his year of action and continues the theme of increasing opportunity for the middle class. angela is back with us. angela, weaning education into an economic message, we talked about it before. why do you think it's a smart way for the president to go? >> it's imperative he go that way. college affordability is a huge issue in this country for the issues we discussed. it's discussed all the time. it's so important for people to feel like they have the opportunity to get ahead. we use the term leveling the

playing field so often in this space. it begins to fall on deaf ears because we are so used to it. think of a kid going on the soccer field with no knee pads. when they take a break, there's no gatorade or water. the other team has that. itis access and making sure people have equal opportunity. go ahead. >> i was going to say, do you think at this point, it's a message geared to parents and younger voters themselves. do you think that is still resinating so many years after all the euphoria over 2008? >> i do. i do. it's really the only way. you have to meet people where they are. these are students that may not be paying student loans back yet. they know how expensive the college tuition bill is because of their parnlts or the students that could not go back to school because their parents no longer qualified for loans. this is a huge issue. it's not an issue of 2008, it's an issue of today.

>> you mentioned hbu. there's pushback regarding that and whether it will be more difficult to get state accredit accredited. do you think there will be a message about the specifics of african-american young men and higher education? >> i think he's going to weave it in. the focus was on my brothers keeper. i don't know he'll be so blatant with it here. when talking underserved and people that don't have to easy and have to work harder, we know what the neems and phrases mean. >> angela, i have to get one point of personal privilege in here, my friend. did i see you in the march issue of "marie claire." >> yes, i hope they send me the products i touted. >> we were just talking about that. i said i have to get in the fact that angela rie is doing big things, huge things.

thank you so much. >> "marie claire" needs to feature you next. >> you broke the mold. >> you are hilarious. thank you. darrel issa apologized to elijah cummings for cutting off his mic on the irs scandal. to refresh your memory, this is the blow up that happened wednesday after issa called lois learner before the reform committee and she availed herself of her fifth amendment rights. issa refused to allow cummings to make even an opening statement. >> i am a member of the congress of the united states of america. i am tired of this. we have members over here who represent 700,000 people. you cannot have a one-sided investigation. it is absolutely something wrong

with that and absolutely un-american. >> democrats called his actions unacceptable and called on speaker john boehner to strip him of his chairmanship. they sent a letter to that effect. then the democrats went on the house floor to reiterate the demand. the request was denied. chairman issa said congressman cummings was the one who needed to apologize. issa says he should have handled things differently. cummings accepted the apology. it's not the end of the story. in a pre-taped interview before or after reaching out to congressman cummings, this was the characterization while on fox news. >> the fact is that i did things according to the rules. i followed a script and mr. cummings decided to have quite a hissy fit. >> hissy fit? see, here is the problem with that chairman issa.

apology or not, the issue was the treatment afforded to your colleague, who is the ranking member on your committee and a representative of the people like you are. it's a cliche and keeps reaching new lows. from you lie to the january brewer finger pointing in the face of the president to ted nugent calling the president a subhuman monogral to protesters that showed up at anti-obama rallies packing assault rifles. courseness, rudeness is hardly new to politics. president clinton's detractors called him a murderer. we had members of congress kill each other in duals. there's a point where this is about more than bad manners. chairman issa is accused by democrats of using his office to have witch hunts and turned up

no evidence of wrong doing from the white house. despite making big promises to media. if the chairman is frustrated by the inability to deliver, taking it out on the ranking member, that seems like the hissy fit. that wraps things up for the reid report. see you back here next week at 2:00 p.m. eastern. visit us online at reidreport.com. hey cyclists? >> it was not a hissy fit. it was demanding democracy. kudos to you. we are going to have governor jon huntsman on the show. i don't know how we booked him, but thanks for that happening. at the end of the show, we are going to have a racial draft. you are going to be part of it. >> i will make my special appearance on "the cycle." it's up next. [ female announcer ] late night? crazy morning. try new olay fresh effects everything off wipes

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news is breaking. john kerry is trying to end the chaos in the ukraine. the only thing he is returning with is his luggage. mother nature, 12 days until spring. have your fun now. rand paul is speaking at c pam we continue to monitor the developments out of the ukraine. russian president, vladimir putin is back in sochi kicking off the paraolympic games. he strongly thought about boycotting the games but said they are going to participate. what plays out, however, is no games. here is what we are getting from the white house. president obama warned his

russian counter part by phone that putin's intervention in crimea is threatening sovereignty. we are just over a week out from voters in crimea deciding whether to become a part of russia. they will be heading to the polls with tankers in the streets. doesn't sound like democracy to me. it seems for now, at least, all the world powers can do is wait. we are in kiev where he went one-on-one with ukraine's prime minister today. steve, what did he tell you? >> reporter: well, he was adamant, adamant that this is not how it's going to end, this situation with russian troops on the ground. of course, we have heard reports in 24 hours, up to 30,000 russian troops in that part