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>> the weather was fine. the fact there was no distress call -- >> we know there are a lot of questions to be answered. at this point they can't explain things. >> our side is energized. >> a limb rebellion now and then is a good thing. >> all of us remember president dole and president mccain and president romney. >> we've got to start talking about what we're for and not what we're against. >> liberty. >> their agenda is more extreme and more intolerant. >> i actually put my neck out there in just about every other body part. >> it's hurting both their own party and the country. well get to politics here at home in just a moment. before we begin, i want to start with breaking news. right now the "uspincney is

headed to vietnam. we know the flight departed kuala lumpur. this particular plane, the boeing 777 has one of the safest records of any jetliner built with a recent incident just last july when an asiana flight crash landed in san francisco. let's bring in tom costello. thanks so much for joining me. it's approaching daylight over there now. what's the latest on i guess it

would be search and rescue? rescue and recovery at this point? >> well, search and rescue. they still haven't found any wreckag wreckage. that's clearly the priority at the moment. you mentioned the oil slicks that were spotted off the coast. you can imagine that's the best we have to go on. the navys of vietnam, malaysia, the united states, the filipino navy is responding and the chinese navy, all in an effort to find this plane and find the wreckage, we presume of this particular flight 370. what's really concerning here is how sudden this was. it is highly unusual for a plane that is at altitude at 35,000 feet, presumably on auto pilot with really the most low-key portion of the flight, where the pilots are literally just monitor their systems, for it to

suddenly just disappear, not on from radar but from radio communication, both to air traffic controllers and back to the home base. and so they don't have much to go on. these two fuel slicks on the water are the on thing they have to go on. this is a heavily traveled area with tankers and fishing trawlers and everything else in this region. they're going to look for any piece of wreckage that might be on the surface of the water. if they find that, maybe they can begin to find out where are the currents, how far might the currents have taken a piece of wreckage and then can they pinpoint the wreckage. this sounds like the air france plane, flight 447 that went into the atlantic ocean about four or five years ago, you may recall disappeared. immediately within a day or two they started finding pieces of the wreckage but they didn't find the wreckage itself on the bottom of the ocean for two years and then had to pull the

wreckage on the top of the ocean and then they found the black boxes and that helped them discover what brought the play down. that was an airbus a-330. we don't even know where the plane is. we are no further along in this than we were nearly 24 hours ago, and that is highly unusual. >> all right. thank you, tom costello. for more, let me brink in terrorism and lest terry lighter and john cox. john, i want to talk about this issue of the missing plane and the idea the plane seems to have leveled off at 35,000 feet, that is generally when the computers take over. is there any possibility that there could have been some kind of miscalculation, some kind of problem in that transition from when the pilots had control of the plane to the automatic going on in the plane? >> i think at this point it's

important to recognize that everything is still on the table. what we know is we don't know a lot and in normal crews the auto pilot would be flying the airplane, that's what i would expect to be happening on a boeing 777 at this part of the flight. as investigators look, they'll look at a lot of things. one of the early things will be the debris field, is it large, small, what effect has the wind had? there's a lot for us to look at here. right now we don't have the evidence. >> the reason the debris field, some new information would be, assuming they find it, if it was a wide area, that might suggest the plane broke up before hitting the area, if it's a smaller area, that may suggest the plane was in a more whole condition when it hit the water.

am i right about that? >> when you have a condition that causes an airplane to go basically dark and quiet suddenly, it can be a catastrophic event. it can indicate a loss of electrical power. and one of the things they look at is was it an in-flight breakup. if that occurred, then the debris field is likely to be very large, as light objects are carried by the wind and heavier objects fall on a much steeper path. this is some of the things that the investigators look at. now, if in fact it hit in a single piece, then all the debris will be in a much smaller area. >> captain cox, it's my understanding this plane is really a pilot's plane and that it was developed -- i mean, it's got the best safety record, it is easy to fly, pilots seem to love it, but it's also relatively easy to put out a

call for alarm. one of the things we come back to is there's been no evidence of a distress call. what do you make of that? >> the boeing 777 went in service in 1995. it has a remarkably good in-flight service record. it has demonstrated over millions of hours that it's a well-designed, safe airplane. the fact that there was not a call to air traffic control could indicate a number of things. the pilots could become very busy very quickly, there could be a loss of electrical power. i don't put a huge amount of emphasis on the lack or the presence of a distress call. i look more for physical evidence. >> all right. mike, i want to switch gears here to you because one of the developments today was that we learned this issue that two of the people on the airplane may have had stolen passports. what does that tell you about the nature of the investigation at this point? >> i think as john said, when

this first started, we had so little information. what this really is is one more piece which is of concern and a factor but it can't drive the entire investigation. the fact that two on a plane have false passports is uncommon. people use false passports for a reason, not just because they're terrorists. this has motivated the central intelligence community to be involved in a way they may not have been. >> as you say, there could be a number of reasons that two people -- could be criminal, not necessarily terrorism, could be less nefarious than that, right? >> that's right. and unfortunately the two people

that it would likely be most difficult to actually identify are those two people because they used false paperwork. so the u.s. government and the malaysians and chinese will now go through that entire passenger manifest, try and see if anyone else has any links to suspicious activity. so far the u.s. government has not seen any nexus to terrorism. that's important to stress. how can we identify the two that used the false papers? that's going to be tough. we may not be able to figure that out until the wreckage is ultimately found. >> just as a final point, it's my understanding, as you both point out, that we need to be patient. this will unfold, even if we were to find some wreckage, this investigation will unfold over a long period of time as more information is learned. >> i think that's absolutely right, karen. >> go ahead, cam it and.

-- captain. >> i think the takeaway from this currently is patience. i have absolute confidence they'll find the airplane. the fact they managed to find the 447 wreckage indicates their capabilities. the geography underneath the malaysian airline is much less challenging. >> we'll continue to bring you results as we learn them here at msnbc. >> this week, stars of the establishment duked it out with tea party darlings. and later, enough with the dog whistle politics. >> with immigration you better be smart and you better be tough and they're taking your jobs and you better be careful.

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tell me, sir, the last pro-life democrat who was allowed to speak at a democratic convention. and i said, by the way, don't strain yourself because there's never been one. they're the party of intolerance, not us. >> in just over an hour we'll find out who won the straw poll at the annual conservative political action conference, the first big test for republicans up and comers with their eyes at the white house. that particular up and comer had it wrong when bob casey, a pro-life democrat did speak at the pro-life convention, just by the way, governor christie. hopefuls from ted cruz to rand paul and even chris christie

have been tossing red meat to the party faithful in the suburbs of d.c. with 27 entered in the straw poll, it's not exactly a sign of party unity. they're all angling for a few minutes in the spotlight and some all-important face time with the base. it's a chance for the gop to take its own polls and figure out where it's going in the months and weeks to come. what direction will the party take in 2014 and who will the conservative base pick to lead them in 2016? joining me now, washington correspondent for "the daily beast" and robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post." thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> robert, can you predict who you might think will win the straw poll? >> i predict senator paul rand

will win the straw poll. the campaign has a lot of organizers on the ground and that bodes well for the senator. >> michelle, you wrote about that and noted that while it wasn't his a-game, you noted the level of enthusiasm and the crowds he got were pretty substantial in how he stood out from some of the others. >> that's right, karen. he was by far the most well received, it was standing room on. robert's point about their being -- c-pac is self attended by the young voters in the parties, students, would-be activists. if you go to the exhibit hall over, there if you look at the booths and look at who is getting the attention, it's the rand paul young folks. there's a lot of energy around him and it really shows that the event. >> the other person we couldn't

help noticed seemed to be having a really good time was governor rick perry from texas. the last time i saw him that excited was in new hampshire when people were wondering what he was drinking or may have taken before going on the stage. >> defend our country, provide a cogent foreign policy and what the heck, deliver the mail, preferably on time and on saturdays! get out of the health care business! get out of the education business! stop hammering industry! let the sleeping giant of american enterprise bring

america prosperity again. >> he didn't even forget his lines. what chance do you think perry has? >> he did a panel, he gave out interviews. i think he'd like to get back in the game next time around. i'm not sure that's where the party momentum is at. it's so early. you have no idea who is going to break out of this pack. >> now, one of the takeaways seem to be the battle lines drawn between the gop establishment and the tea party, even though a number of speakers said there's no division, we're not divided. just in terms of the messaging and the tone of the messaging, there did seem to be a real difference. i want to get your take on that. >> i think you're seeing it on a variety of fronts, particularly on two, immigration and foreign policy. on immigration, a lot of the hardline republicans were opposeds to tow opposed to the senate's bill. and foreign policy you saw some

lines drawn, senator paul on friday, senator marco rubio, a hawk, on thursday, really articulating different visions. i don't think there's a sense in the party about where to go on either of these issues. it's an ongoing debate. >> michelle, there was also some reporting that the right-wing fringe was not as prevalent, that there's now this sort of other or uninvited conference, if you will, for some of the more fringe of the fringe. so the question is i guess they're trying to sort of play down some of the crazy but still i saw a few images that suggested there was still some colorful characters shall we say attending cpac. >> cpac is a chance for conservatives to come down and let their hair down, it's a networking and messaging event but it's also a big party. so everybody comes out and plays. at the place where they had all the displays, everybody from the nra to the new show for sarah palin. there were also people handing

out flyers who say we don't want gop proud to be a part of this, the republican gay rights group. so especially the gay marriage issue would bubble up to the top, even despite the best interest to tamp it down. >> robert, to that point. i believe go proud was invited to attend, they didn't have a speaking role, michelle mentioned the pamphlets. you tweeted out that no one is talking about the gop autopsy. there was not a lot of attendance at a particular panel on minorities. so what does that say about the priority at cpac of sort of in keeping with this idea of needing to broaden the tent, if you will. it seems like it's more about focuses on the core. >> i think that's right. i think that cpac does offer a

glimpse into how republicans, looking at 2014 ahead of the mid-term elections. the rnc came out with an autopsy report and there was a lot of discussion about maybe moving to the center, appeal more to minority and gay voters. we're seeing an effort by the party and the base to appeal to conservative voters. reince priebus, the rnc chairman, was here a few hours ago, trying to rev up the base and get them excited. right now it's all about get out the vote. >> democrats have decided the key for them, at least on the house side, is women. they've identified where they need to turn out women voters in order to either stay where they are or potentially pick up seats. i think as we're speaking, they're just starting a panel entitled "why conservatism is right for women, how conservatives should talk about life, prosperity and national security." and it's also international women's day today. but it did not go unnoticed that

there were not a lot of women on the main program. you did have sarah palin, you do have michele bachmann, but for the most part, most of the speakers were men. >> there are a lot of men in the leadership. republican party. >> just saying. >> this upseats lot of g-- up st of the women activists and fund-raisers. they're banging their heads trying to get more women. they want to see these faces up front because as people have pointed out, doesn't matter what your messages are, you also want to see people who look like you delivering those messages. this is a big thing within the party. >> we keep saying that, keep saying that, they write about it and seem to know it but we're

not seeing it in action. oh, well. thanks to michelle cottle and robert costa. >> ahead, the latest on the disappearance of a malaysian airliner. and later, the changes we need in our justice system. you're comfortable here,

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for the irs to up its game. they've done next to nothing for the little guy. the media doesn't even notice. they're too busy trying to fix benghazi for hillary. >> the irs is now a weapon, a weapon to punish anyone who disagrees with them. they give us solyndra, benghazi, fast and furious, obamacare. >> i also know four americans were murdered at benghazi and our government lied to us as to what happened. >> oh, boy. that was a reminder of the gop's obsession with fake scandals and false equivalencies to fast and furious to this week's revival of the so-called irs scandal, all drummed up to undermine the obama presidency. this week democrats decided enough was enough. somewhere between the 50th and 51st votes to repeal the

obamacare act and in a breach of house rules, chairman issa refused to let his colleague elijah cummings speak, cutting his microphone off and urging those present to leave. >> now let me say what i have to say. i've listened to you for the last 15 or 20 minutes. let me say what i have to say. >> miss lerner, you're released. you may leave. >> first i would like to use my time to make some brief points. for the past year the central republican accusation in this investigation -- we're adjourned. close it down. >> before our committee is the same old document -- if you will sit down and allow me to ask the

question, i am a member of the congress of the united states of america! i am tired of this! >> well -- >> we have members over there, each who represent 700,000 people. you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. there is absolutely something wrong with that and it's absolutely unamerican. >> in support of representative cummings, they called on mr. boehner to formally reprimand mr. issa and urged him to strip issa of his chairmanship. not surprisingly, speaker boehner is standing by speaker issa. >> to my understanding, he is within his rights to do what he did. he is the chairman, he's done an

effective job and i support him. >> thanks to my guests for joining us. >> glad to be here. >> rules do matter. and the level of sort of disrespect that we saw was pretty staggering, particularly considering -- you know him probably better than i do, congressman cummings is not a man to whom you would see that kind of an outburst particularly frequently unless he's really been pushed. >> he's one of the most decent, gentlemanly individuals in the house of representatives, well respected on both sides of the aisle. the house rules have their principle embedded in them for the equal time between the majority and minority. we all represent more than 700,000 individuals. elijah cummings is the ranking member and he should have been granted the opportunity to speak for the same amount of time or an equivalent amount of time that was given or taken by chairman issa.

but the gop agenda is delay, destroy, defend and distract. and darrell issa is the distracter in chief. >> i would add to that not let the other side get their say in. >> i saw "i could have offered to reopen the hearing and allowed him to make a second statement. as chairman, i should have been much more sensitive to the mood of what was going on and i take responsibility. but let's listen o what he said on fox. >> i followed the rules and then mr. cummings decided to have quite a hissy fit. >> that's ridiculous. it's disappointing to see

members of my colleagues in the media give chairman issa credit for apologizing, when the game he played having been a press secretary, i know this game very well, you know the folks in your home district i probably should have behaved a little better but what you say publicly on video is a very different message that as the congressman points out supports that sort of distracting, dividing agenda. >> absolutely. issa is very good at manipulating the media to help him push his dishonest media campaigns. he has a place at fox where he can go and gin up controversy and manufacture these scandals and he won't get any pushback and won't have any hard questions he has to answer. fox loves this because they're the network of scandals at this point and they'll let him just continue to push this nonsense because it just helps them out. >> congressman, one of the things that struck me as -- and i think this is part of why

congressman cummings was being so forceful in wanting to speak. earlier in the summer, we know that issa withheld information that basically supported his theory of events around the irs. we've seen a pattern of behavior by issa to withhold information to make it look worse for the democrats, particularly when congressman cummings was the one who made sure it was released that progressive groups were also being investigated, not just conservative groups. there's been evidence that perhaps chairman issa has had certain meetings and again wi withholding different information. when he said "i am tired of this", this is a real pattern we've seen. >> and congressman cummings has shown biblical levels of

patience with an investigation that has gone nowhere, there's not a scintilla of evidence that supports that the irs has targeted conservative groups. they were concerned with groups perhaps not meeting the qualifications for not for profit status. maybe there was some awkwardness that was done. but the reason this is such a manufactured scandal and they continue to pour gasoline on it in order to try and keep it going is because they want to distract the american people from the fact that america wants a raise, a minimum wage increase. the gop in the house is standing against it. america wants comprehensive immigration reform. the gop in the house is standing against it. america wants universal pre-k. the gop is standing against it on issue after issue. all that is left for them is to distract and chairman issa is

the chief perpetraurposerpetrat fraud. >> but hasn't it gone beyond -- it's just rank disrespect and disregard. we've seen it hurled against the president time and time again, yelling out in the chamber when he's speaking, the way they talk about the president. but in this instance it just felt like it was just so disrespectful. and again, congressman cummings, biblical patience. for congressman issa to behave that way, it showed to me like a disrespect for the position itself. >> many of whom stood behind marcia fudge, laying out the pattern of behavior by the chairman. the house gop tabled the resolution, they did not want to deal with it, perhaps expect

they go felt the easiest way was for chairman issa to apologize in a phone call and then distance himself publicly from the apology. >> i find it incredibly disrespectful and distasteful and not keeping with at least the spirit of the rules of the house for heavens sake. okay, thank you. up next, an update on the investigation into the missing airliner jet with 227 souls on board. >> and coming up next, the author of a book on how to combat racial bias in our justice system. ® credit score. yup, you get it free each month to help you avoid surprises with your credit. good. i hate surprises. surprise! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and see your fico® credit score.

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the fact that a lot of african-american boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that african-american boys are more violent, using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain. >> that was president obama addressing the nation last summer in the aftermath of the george zimmerman not guilty verdict in the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin, one of the few times in his presidency that he has taken the issue of race so directly in america. the trial prompted our country

to again have an honest conversation about race, bias and prejudice, specifically as it impacts the prejudice of america's black and brown men. we again confronted the issue in the michael dunn trial in the killing of david jordan. it's how the bias is addressed or not addressed in our justice system that remains unexamined and unchecked. as our next guest points out in her book, we know those biases are having an impact in young men of color. "for first-time child offenders, african-americans are six times as likely as whites to be sentenced to prison for identical crimes." african-american youths are more like to be arrested, more likely

to be tried in adult court and more likely to be sent to an adult state prison. it's a systematic problem with our justice system, the same system these black and brown youth are supposed to be able to trust when they need help. it's not just a florida problem, it's a national problem. joining me now is the author of "suspicion nation." thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> i love the book. you were very hard on the prosecutors in the zimmerman case. but one of the things that strikes me, you talk a lot about the biass eses in our system. john guy twice had an tonight to recognize the role that race and racial bias was playing in two cases that we're talking about now. how could he -- what could be done to help him do a better job of recognizing his own bias or

how his own bias may be preventing him from putting on the best case? >> so it's such an important question. i would encourage everyone to take the implicit racial bias test. you can take it online. it's developed by harvard university researchers. most of us think we're not racist. most of us think we're color blind. i thought that and i reveal in the book my own experience taking that test because this isn't just a problem about other people pointing the finger, calling somebody a racist. i think this is a systemwide problem. we live in a culture with a lot of negative depictions of african-americans. children as young as 6 years old will say the white doll is the good doll and the black doll is the bad doll. i have examples in the book, for example, of judges who talk to the jury about racial bias and point out that this is something that all of us have to grapple with but it has no place in the courtroom. there are ways this can be done

without it being awkward and threatening and uncomfortable and it needs to be done. not talking about race is not solving the problem of racial bias, especially in the criminal justice system. >> to that point, one of the things that struck me in both cases, the two young men, the presumptions made about both these young men, first with trayvon martin, it was the hoodie. what does that say. and then with regard to the "thug music" as we heard in the other case. yet the parents spoke the most eloquently about their children and it felt like that representation of their children wasn't made part of the case in a way that at least filled out that picture or balanced it a little better. >> in a real sense trayvon martin was put on trial in the zimmerman case and he did not get a fair trial because there was no advocate for him in the courtroom. he was compared to a couple of

burglars who had been in the neighborhood six months prior. trayvon martin had nothing to do with those burglars. but they failed to rise and say this is an outrageous, unfair comparison. >> one of the remaining questions i have, i know there will be another step in this case, why were letters not introduced? >> initially the judge said they were not relevant. once the defense brought in character evidence, witnesses to say that michael dunn was gentle and peaceful, the prosecution should have applied against to get those letters in and they should have come in. why did they not do that? i think they're as uncomfortable about talking about race as most persons. this is a murder trial, it isn't a tea party.

you have to put this many right between the eyes and be aggressive. >> i want to talk about something that you talk about in the book, fascination versus fear. and you write about the fact that there is this history in this country of some very brutal white serial killers. you write ted kaczynski, jeffrey dahmer, dennis raider, though each of these striking again and again in towns and cities across the states, you talk about an element of fascination rather than fear. >> i look at the statistics very, very careful to see if it's true and frankly it's not. as a white person, for example, i'm six times more likely to be victimized by a white person.

george zimmerman was more likely to be hit by lightning when he got out of his car that night in florida than hit by trayvon martin. >> i think we need to be showing african-american youth in more positive light and switching the fascination with the serial killers you talked about, for example, and we should fear them a little more. >> what's scarier than a murderer and rapist on the loose. i think that's a pretty scary thing. i think ultimately i have a belief when people are confronted by the facts and i have all the information in the book that they will change their point of view. the good news is most people don't want to be racist, we do want to be egalitarian. i'm trying to appeal to that part in all of us. >> it is an excellent book. if you don't have it, get it. thank you, lisa bloom.

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