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lea there, it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. in the west. striking new details today in the disappearance of that malaysian airlines jet. it may have changed course before it suddenly vanished. malaysia airlines m-370 was carrying 239 people when it disappeared from radar early saturday morning. authorities are now saying two passengers used stolen passports to board that flight. those two tickets were most likely bought together. the malaysian prime minister has ordered investigators to widen the search area the airline says everything possible is being done to help find that missing plane. >> and yet they have now found
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any wreckage, no wreckage whatsoever. >> vietnamese air force planes did spot two large oil slicks, though it's not certainly if they're connected with the plane. this map shows the location. the u.s. navy along with the safety board has joined the search. we've been following the latest on the efforts. duncan. what else do we know about the size and scope of these efforts? where are they all coming from? >> take a look vietnam, china, singapore, indonesia, thailand, the united states helping too, as you mentioned. of course it's nighttime there, so the planes are no longer out, but the shipping are continuing the search. they have widened the area.
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so there's there's two bits of information that raise more questions. >> low-fly iing airplane findina rectangular shape. vietnamese officials say boats are being sent to the area for look for the object. the second bit of attention, the air force chief saying that the airliner indicated it may have made a turn back. the boss of malaysian airlines that if pilots make a u-turn they of course should inform the airline, but we know there was no call, no distress signal. only adds to the mystery, alex. >> interesting. you heard me talk about these two stolen passports and they may have been purchased together. what do you know about that? >> that's exactly what we're hearing. >> the tickets i should say.
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>> now they're checking who were the passenger that got on board using stolen passports. they were stolen in thailand over the last two years. the minister says they do have security footage of the two people which they are examining and there are reports that two passengers had on reservations to get to europe. intelligence agencies are trying to see if there's some kind of link between the passports and what happened to the flight. >> duncan, i know they're looking at the entire flight manife manifest. are there other passengers raising suspicions? its yeah, that's right. they're going there you this one by one. earlier there were reports that two more names were raising questions, raising doubts. that now seems to be ruled out. the attention now just seems to be focusing on these two passengers who had european passports, one'sryian, one italian. that seems to be the focus of
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investigations at the moment. >> duncan, thanks. well, former ntsb investigator is joining me. greg, welcome back. no sign of the plane, does that surprise you? >> it does, but it doesn't. they've been searching in an area they thought the radar data would at least provide them/clues. they found these oil slicks, but typically, if you look at egypt airplane 990, if you look at alaska air 261, twa 800, wherever there was an oil slick or slick from fuel there was always wreckage. this one doesn't have wreckage, so it's highly probable these slicks did not come from the airplane. what about the report that the airplane might have tried to turn around. what does that mean? >> as we talked when yesterday, there were other say sets that folks would need to use.
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this was apparently military radar that indicated possibly an air turnback. you would normally have a pilot communicated if they're going to do an air turnback, they need permission and of course tell them what they're doing. if the flight crew wassen compares at a timed, the airplane could turn left, turn right, it could continue on. if you remember the payne stewart event where the crew suck culled to hypoxia and the plane fuel for 400 miles, you could possibly have another scenario like this if this was something that incapacitied the crew and/or airplane. >> but can you see a legitimate reason for the plane trying -- a reason other than speculating people not allowing the pilots to make any conversations with an air traffic control tower, what would make them turn that plane around from a mechanical
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perspective? or anything that would not allow them to contact an air traffic control. >> it would have to be a event that was so consuming, where it required both pilots to be on the flight controls trying to handle the airplane, and because of that that, you know, situation, it consumed them, because typically, as a pilot, it's aviate, navigate and communicate. you're going to do whatever it takes to maintain control of the airplane before you make any kind of radio call. >> that makes sense there. >> let's talk about the oil slicks. what do you make of those? there's two, supposed to be very large in size, one about six miles in diameter, another nine. >> again, you know, you could have a variety of different scenarios. if the airplane in toto actually impacted the water, you would
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expect to see a lot of debris, but in this incident if we just have this oil slick, let's say we had a structure in-flight breakup, the wind carried the fuel down and sank, you could have that and the rest of the airport crashed somewhere on land, then you wouldn't have a lot of wreckage floating on the water. the wing ifself is a very heavy structure, it would have gone and probably surf. that's a far-fetched possibility. i think they're going to need to widen their search area. if this airplane had flown -- remember, we're at 35 those feet. that airport is moves at better than 500 miles per hour, the airport will not come straight down. >> greg, thank you for weighing in. adam schiff of california is joining me.
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nice to see you as always. let's talk about the issue of the stolen passports do you start thinking down certain lines because of that? >> well, it certainly raises red flags, but i think it's far too early to make any conclusions. i can tell you what the agencies will be doing right now, the malaysian authorities have the footage of the two people traveling, so we'll by scouring images. do any of our talented analysts and our database, are they able to recognize the images? we'll also be working with our international partners to scrutinize the man i fest. are there any people traveling under their own passports that have any link to terrorism. what i find shocking, alex, is interpol's statement, and i have no reason to believe this isn't
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true, that on a flight this size, it's not unusual to have two people traveling with false passports. that's a pretty astounding gap in security. dhs works routinely in terms of flights originating or traveling to the united states to check with interpol on stolen passports. we have to make sure we have an airtight system here as well, and i don't know that that's the case. >> one passport, but two seems rather jaw-dropping. if this was an act of terror, wouldn't somebody have claimed responsibility by now? >> that's another important indication that this may be a mechanical failure. it could be an issue with one of the pilots. so, you know, i still think it's more plausible that it wasn't terrorism related than it is, but probably the more routine explanation for the stolen passport says these two people were smuggling drugs or some
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other contraband. that's far more likely the case, particularly when you consider how common evidently it is, according to interpol, for people to be traveling with stolen passports. >> let's switch gears here and turn to the situation in ukraine. the newby appointed prime minister says he's coming to the united states. he will have a meeting with the president on march 12th, discussing the stand offwith russia. can any concrete actions come from the visit or is it more symbolic? >> i think it's probably both. it's an important symbolic act just as it was for secretary kerry to go to kiev and go to the place where some of the protesters lost their lives. so too it confers legitimacy on this new government for the president to meet with the new leader. but they'll also be talking about concrete steps. we want to make sure that kiev doesn't take actions that will invite the russians to go
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further into eastern ukraine. we'll wack to -- and, you know try to facts a triage. putin gives no indication whatsoever that he's going to be backing away from annexing crimea. so i they have we have some long-term strategies to undertake. that means sanctions, and some pain for russia, for us and europe as well. moscow's reported actions, russia saying it would consider stopping the international inspections of the own nuclear weapons, so put that in perspective. how big a deal is that? >> it's significant that russia is threatening to escalate in an area completely removed from the crisis in ukraine. that could not pose problems in terms of that treaty, and would be a violates, but could jeopardizes the broader
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nonproliferation structure. at the same time there are other threats to that nonproliferation structure, because part of in budapest memorandum that we've been talking about has been the fact that ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, returned them to russia in exchange for promises of territory integrity that they would guarantee. so if we could in fact guarantee that, then what incentive do others have to give up their nuclear programs? there's a lot of stake, but nonetheless ewith the threat that may escalate, the u.s. will have to move forward in coner with our european partners. >> what about the aid that's broadband offered to ukraine? is that the best way to go about helping ukraine? >> i think it's part of a two-part approach to ukraine's financial situation. it's a pretty small drop in the
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bucket of ukraine's problems. those problems of upwards of probably $35 billion, so $1 billion is a small down payment. europe is stepping in with $15 billion more. all of this i think will be important to stabilizing ukraine. at the same time another important piece will be trying to diversify ukraine's centering supply so that it could be subject to this extortion by russia. and russia's going to turn up the heat there by forcing them to pay more for their natural gas or turning eve the supply. so this is an important component of a two-part strategy. >> adam schiff, california, we always appreciate your time. >> thanks. and a new study on something that makes drivers furious. that's in today's number one. mine was earned in korea in 1953.
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here's the deputy national security adviser on "meet the press." >> i think what you'll see in the days ahead, is tremendous solidarity and coordinate led by president obama morning the international community to exert a price and cost if russia needs to move forward, but it does not need to be that way. there's a clear off-ramp, but the two countries talking directly, and then head toward elections on may 25th. the biggest annual gatheringen conserve thifs has officially wrapped up. sarah palin was last night's keynote speaker with this message to women. >> women, don't let them use you, unless you choose to be their political pawn or just
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their piece of accessory on their arm. honey, that's no libberation. that's subjugation, and this sisterhood fights against that. the results are in for the australia poll. senator rand paul is the preferred candidate followed by senator ted chris and dr. ben carson. governor christie and scott caller and rick santorum rounding out the group. jackie could you in addition, welcome to you both. what have we learned overall. what's your big takeaway? >> you know, it shows that the conservative praert isn't of one mind. there are some there are some things that divide them. not everyone is on the same
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page. they're still working through some issues that they haven't quite resolved from 2012. >> so how much, beth, how much weight does the straw poll carry? did he deliver a message that would resonate with a national audience? >> well, i think what you're seeing there is the appeal of rand paul and ron paul, his father before him to young republicans, young conservativ s conservatives. granted cpac buses in a lot of young folks to attend every year, but his message resonates with the young republicans, the sort of noninterventionist approach the if the republican party will have a future, they probably do need to embrace more of a rand paul view of the world. granted, he's conservative on other issues, but he's the only rep showing strength among young republicans. >> but there's a lot of people that do not agree with that? >> certainly in the base, true.
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but they have to move beyond the base if they're going to be a national party. >> sarah palin rallied the base. here's a business more of what she said. >> a little trying, lucky little fella, his bedtime story, now it goes something like this. i do not like this uncle sam. i do not like his health care scam. >> so she certainly stirred the crowd there, but sarah palin got 2% in the straw poll. what are he future political prospects? do you think she wants something political in terms of elections? >> i think sarah palin likes toss a voice in the room. but i don't think returning for election. i think we saw that in 2012 when a bunch of us raced after her when she did that bus tour through the eastern part of the country. i think she likes being part of
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the conversation and she still is, particularly among the cpac crowd. nbc.com described it as dr offered of several slabs of meat hitting on the benghazi attack and taking time to -- how do you, beth, describe her? she's certainly a unique figure. >> but i think we're seeing the slow, slow fade. when was the last time we heard from her before this cpac address. she does have a certainly appeal to the hard-core kind of tea party base, but we're seeing more and more that, again, unless the republican party only wants to be the party of older white peal, they have to expand their appeal, and her appeal is very limited. that base is getting smaller. >> to that end there's a new
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parol showing half of the millennials, they view themselves as independent. however, they more likely to lean democratic. what does that suggest about future national elections? what can we read from that? >> i think you've seen the party try to gear themselves toward younger people, but they haven't found a good way to do it yet. because of their base, it makes it more different for them than some democrats, but again, when you see someone like rand paul, who does have more libertarian views on some of the hotter issues, that might be a path toward younger -- at least some younger voters for republicans going forward. >> beth, your take? same thing? >> yeah, pretty much the same thing, as long as the republican party is identified with social issues like opposition to gay marriage, opposition to broadening immigration, they're going to lose young people. they could potential get young people around the sort of rand
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arrested overnight in cleric between police and students. the crowds were celebrating the annual blarney blowout party. the university says students who were arrested will be reviewed under the school's code of conduct. stopped in its track. hundreds of national guards prevented protesters blame the president's policies for the scarcity of basic needs. rob ford pulled a rob ford this weekend. he told his followers on twitter they should set the clocks back an hour back instead of forward. a corrected message, though, was sent out shortly after the original was erased on saturday. back to the breaking news you've been following out of the southeast asia. the search is intensifying for the missing jetliners.
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several agencies are scouring the area. meanwhile, the agonizing wait continuing for family and friends for the passengers. malaysia airlines has send a senior management to beijing where the flight was supposed to arrive. an airline spokesperson says families members should, quote, prepare themselves for the worst. i'm joined by jim cavanaugh. with a welcome to you, we have learned this interesting fact that two passengers, possibly more, were traveling under false identities. how does this information impact the investigation? >> the commander are going to have to run thog leads to ground. it doesn't mean the answer there. worldwide travelers travel on fraudulent passports for a lot of reasons -- fraud, they want to skip immigration in china, or maybe their final destination. i think these passengers had tickets through to amsterdam and europe. they could have been trying to
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illegally immigrate or carry, smuggle money or drugs. terror is one of those reasons as well. they have to find out who they are. they'll do that probably from the airport cameras, to start with. >> the a.p., associated press, is reported that the interpol says no country checked its database that had information about the two stolen passports. shouldn't that be standard operating procedure? itches it's outrageous in this day and time that anybody can board an aircraft with a passbore that's been stolen for a year and a half and is listed on the interpol database. whether or not it turns out to be that these people, you know, had anything to do with the aircraft going down, you present a false passport, clearly you should be arrested right there at the terminal. but the investigators will determine that, you know. and then the new information that that flight may have tried to turn around just before
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disappearing, what does that tell you about the flight's whereabouts? >> well, that's critical, alex. i saw you had doug fife on from the ntsb earlier. this is where the investigators like fbi and diplomatic security agents and cia agents get with guys like doug and say, you know, on this radar signature we're looking at, is this a turn that a human would have to execute? or is this a turn that could be a mechanical failure of the rudder? in other words from the height, all the tide, radar, and they will probably be able to tell you a human made return, and then you get into the cockpit, who is in chrome of the plane? is it the pilot? the copilot? is it somebody suicidal? is it a flight for control, like the egypt air, or does somebody breach the cockpit security and was trying to get control of the air kr568? >> as greg was saying there are two pilots on board.
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the first is to fly the plane, second to navigate and lastly to communicate. if they were having a tremendous problem, smell nearly catastrophic, you can understand why the communications didn't go out, but not only did it vanish without any kind of distress signal, we still haven't found wreckage. how unusual is this? we are 48 hours along into search and recovery, especially one of this scale. many countries involved. it just seems like a long time to not have anything. >> alex, the sea will not give us its secrets easily or quickly. i think that the passenger investigative work on the other side may bear fruit faster if in fact it is a criminal or terrorist act and not an accident or mechanical failure or other external accident, a meteor, space junk. and all that has to be eliminated by the investigative
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team. they have to gaskly go back and look at all the passengers, you know, a bomb on a plane can be put on for other criminal reasons, you know, like to kill somebody for their life insurance. so if -- if that's the case. we don't know what brought of the aircraft down, but there's a lot of legwork that has to happen. we'll see if they can identify the fraudulent passport holders or other passengers. that could change the equation dramatically. jim cavanaugh, thanks for weighing in. i appreciate it. >> thanks, alex. this morning mike rogers talked about how at least two passengers might have been able to board the plane. >> it's not common, but it is not unheard of either, that stolen passpords can be repurposed and used, mainly for the quality of the passports themselves. so given the right circumstances, and in this case clearly it worked, they were able to board and gain entry.
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they would be doctored up, individuals who would have the skill set to change those passports just enough that they could identify with the individual that was using it. so what they'll do now is they'll go back through the airport and make some determination through cameras and other means to try to identify the individuals and track that back. >> reasonablers emphasized we are still in the early stages of this investigation. a bit later on, what we are learning about the americans on the flight. that is ahead in our next hour. honoring a woodstock legend forever, and in our next hour, parachute versus plane. both crash and survive. ! smell , they're like music to your nose. ♪ your love ♪ ♪ love keeps lifting me ♪ ♪ higher and higher [ male announcer ] lift your love with new gain flings! more gain scent than ever
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they're more about the country being polarized. it's this great experiment? polarization that i think is an abysmal failure. the fact that we have leaders in both parties who refuse to talk to the other, to me just make me more hungry for female leadership. you look at some of the quagmires, it was women continuing to talk to each other through the crisis, through the government shutdown that helped bring it back. so i think we have to -- insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. maybe it would be less insane to send a bunch of women who have more insay negotiating skills, who don't feel so much ego if we don't get our way. until we have a make shake-up in who we send us, we won't have a major shake-ups in outcome. >> you've written two well -- talk about the genesis of that, "18 acres."
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i always thought of the white house as a character, in my life. the first book is called "18 acres." i didn't know this that the white house sits on an 18-acre complex. there's almost an alternate reality inside that complex. >> and in these books, you talk about the first female president. let me just say that the reason i created a female president was in part of what i watched in 2008, what i watched hillary clinton gone through and sarah palin and what i went through. i worked in the white house for seven years. i thought i was past the point where everybody would blame me simply because i was a woman. when sarah palin hit bumps in the road, when the story about how much was spent on her ward roib, nobody even called to asked. they presumed because i wear skirts, i must have bought her skirts. it was -- it was humbling, but women have a unique capacity to
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suffer through professional indignities and keep going. i think it makes us esneakily suited for some lines of work. politics is one of them, where a lo of the failures have been because of their difficulty in suffering the indignities of the public nature of political life. i feel, and have always if et that women have a unique and superior ability to endure those things, let it watch off their shout and proceed with the job at hand. that's what we do in our everyday lives. >> but hillary clinton running, is that something -- you must take something from that that of course you would support. >> women have to decide it matters more than not at all, to me it matters more than not at all. it is a nonfactor. i will absolutely give a female candidate of any party more consideration, because i am such a partisan when it comes to
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rights movement will have a rally tomorrow. the march comes yet amid another trial. 33-year-old melissa alexander faces the possibility of 60 years in prison after firing what she says was a warning shot at her estranged husband in an act of self-defense. joining me now benjamin crump, who is the attorney for trayvon martin's parents, and will also be delivering the opening remarks. nice to see you as always. >> thank for you having me, alex. >> what are you planning to say, sir? and what are the families hoping to accomplish at the rally tomorrow? >> alex, it's real simple. we have to do something about the stand your ground laws. they are sending such a terrible, irresponsible message to society when you really think about what george zimmerman's verdict said. what michael dunn's verdict said. he got convicted for missing. he got convicted for attempted
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murder, when you think about marisa alexander, she shot a warning shot in the air and she got convicted for shooting a warning shot for 20 years, now possibly 60 years. michael dunn convicted for missing. what is the message we are telling to society? shoot to kill? make sure you hit the person? because then you won't be held accountable, but if you miss them, then you go to jail. that's a terrible message to send. >> absolutely. just for people who aren't sure about the difference with marisa alexander. they're retrying her because of the jury instructions that may have been improperly delivered or perceived, and now because her estrained husband had his two children nearby, they're adding 20 years for each of the two children. that's where they go from 20 to 60 now for this trial that's going to come down again in july. with regard to florida overall,
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though, benjamin, has anything changed? anything palpable from a legal perspective? >> well, the thing that they have passed in a committee of the florida senate is now this warning shot law that is actually an expansion of stand your ground. these families don't want it expanded. they want it to be amended to make it where people shouldn't be encouraged to shoot. you shouldn't try to settle your differences with gun. you should settle them with conversation and conflict resolution. ivity to say this, alex, as a lawyer, in the george zimmerman case, michael dunn, they all said stand your ground wasn't even used. well, it's in the jury instructions. that's what's so confusing, because the judge by law has to read it to the jury, and the jury instructions says these people if they feel they were in fear for their life, have a right to stand their ground. that could be an imaginary fear
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our subjective fear that makes you put yourself in harm's way like michael dunn getting out of his car to confront the young man or for zimmerman chasing trayvon martin. it's a terrible law or we'll see more trayvons and more jordan, and we've seen another marisa alexander. couldn't marisa alexander use that, though, to her advantage? this was allegedly an abusive husband, she shoots a warning shot at him, does not hit him, and i'm getting the perspective and the way you feel about the stand your ground law, but as i understand it, it is not part of her defense. >> well, you know, it's interesting you say that, because we have the national organization of women president joining us with reverend al and a lot of other people at the rally. we do see this was a domestic
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violence/abusive husband situation, and she had the guts -- but she doesn't kill them. that's what people are troubled by. she doesn't kill anybody, but yet she's facing 60 years. george zimmerman shoots trayvon martin in the heart and he's scot-free. so people in society are saying there's something wrong with this law. >> where do you think the florida legislature stands on stand your ground? do you have any prospects of changing the law? that's really the only way to change it, do it legally. >> florida is ground zero for stand year ground. it will be on the ballots in midterm elections, so it's a national issue. i want to bling in mea heart of heart that the legislators are listening to the people. that's why we're having the rally tomorrow, that they're going to amend this stand your ground law, so people will be
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able to say the law is fair and just and they have notice of the law. right now from a legal standpoint, stand your ground is supposed to be a pretrial motion. it goes before the journal, and the judge says it's dismissed or you can't use it in the courtroom. people have gotten mart and said it's not going to use it, it's going to be in the jury instruction anyway. >> can i just ask you how the families are coping? how are they doing? >> well, they're doing well as can be expected, both of them boys would have turned 19 years old, and now they are resolute in trying to fight for change for this law as an appropriate legacy to their loss. >> trying to do something positive out of something to tragic. always a pleasure. thanks so much. >> thank you, alex. we'll have live coverage
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