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♪ obama ♪ obama obama obama ♪ >> got you. >> that is one way of doing it. good morning, everyone. it is monday, march 10th. welcome to "morning joe." i can't believe we are well into march already. what happened? with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. handgun? well, wooek. >>. >> turn off the phone right now. it's my children. yes, you should get one. don't start me. it's the whole iphone/samsung

thing. former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner is here. finally, i get to see you. how are you? >> we are like ships passing in the night. >> yes, we are. joe, willie and me. your weekend good, willie? >> pretty uneventful. >> did you work? >> no, not this weekend. what about you? >> i love daylight savings, don't you all? get to get up an hour earlier. when you wake up at 2:30, it feels like 3:30. >> it hurts a little bit more. >> it's lighter later, though, so we can play basketball and stuff late into the night. won't that be fun? >> because that's what is wholesaler good at. >> or stick ball. >> that's what the kids do on my street. >> you live in the bronx in, lie, 1954? >> out there with willie mays. >> we are all a little tired but good to be here. a lot to get to. we are going to you about what is going on in ukraine. plxs to get to.

why bob gates, crimea is already gone. >> already gone. >> we begin with the latest on that missing malaysia airlines jet. emergency crews are expanding their search for the plane and the 239 people on board. 40 ships and 22 aircraft, including some from the united states, are working as part of the search. officials believe the plane crashed somewhere in the gulf of thailand off the coast of vietnam. among the many theories that happened, speculation that an explosion or a hijacking may be responsible for the plane's missing status. over the weekend, interpol confirmed two passengers used stolen passports and officials are investigating the identities of two other passengers on the plane. flight officials are also looking into a recording of the radar which suggests the plane turned around from its scheduled root to beijing. a lot of theories here and a lot of concerns. red flags in what we know

already this might be terrorism. >> steve, what i always tell people that are riding on a plane when it gets turbulence, we are fine. you get up there. i mean, i've seen -- >> highly unusually. >> where once it beams, you're all right? >> what is that? >> say anything. say anything. yeah, once it starts -- in fact, the numbers are pretty insignificant as far as crashes once you're at a cruising level, especially on a plane of this size. what in the world happened here? >> well, we don't know. but, look. yes, for a plane like this, a boeing 7777 there is almost no precedent for it falling out of the sky. landing, takeoff, in fact, that crash last summer of the asian plane was pilot error. they had to work to crash that plane but planes generally don't drop out of the sky. >> explaining to people at home who might not fly a lot and are

scared, especially a boeing of that size with a major airliner. it is unprecedented for them just to fall out of the sky. turbulence doesn't do it. >> first of all, there probably wasn't any because the weather is what they called clear in the aviation world, but the closest was the france aircraft in 2009 which did fall out of the sky. it was an airbus, not a boeing and a combination of a instrument malfunction and terrible pilot error and that plane did just fall out of the sky. so it does happen once in a blue moon. >> i was going to ask you. in this day and age, how could we have no idea where the plane is from gps and transponders days in? >> seriously, we only have radar coverage a couple of hundred miles off of land. radar is land-based.

there is no satellite radar coverage. the airlines have been reluctant to install you need for plane's locations so when you fly across the atlantic and pacific your pilots are communicating using technology is 40, 50 years old in terms of how they do. took two years to find the wreckage of the air france plane when it crashed off the coast of brazil. >> could it be possible the plane was off course and they are looking in the wrong place? >> possible, but unlikely. a lot of people say why wasn't there a distress call or why wasn't there anything? >> why isn't there debris. >> fly the plane first, figure out where you are and then talk to somebody. if you have some emergency that occurs, it would be normal -- >> okay, but if you're flying a 777, just put yourself in their position. you're a pilot. i mean, how were you not going

to be able to communicate? i understand you go through other things first, but if you hit horrible turbulence or if you're dropping from, you know, 40,000 feet, you're going to have time somebody in there to communicate, unless there is a severe extreme event like a bomb. >> if you lose both engines and you're gliding down, you'll have 20 minutes or something like that to communicate. if you have an explosive decompression, not necessarily a bomb but if you lose cab bin pressure suddenly you have seven seconds or six seconds before you lose consciousness. look, the passport thing is -- >> it's like the golfer, payne stewart? >> yes. >> the passport thing is something that we have never seen before in all of these crashes, there has never been too mysterious passports that were stolen and one thing lead me away thinking something just happened to this plane.

it's something you can't quite imagine who it would be, why people would bring down a plane filled with chinese people and why is nobody taking credit for it? >> they spotted from the air what they thought was a life raft and said a few minutes ago in a press conference it wasn't that. they have really seen nothing they can confirm is remotely related to this plane. >> you had everybody seizing on the two passports and talked to one anti-terror expert who said on a plane that size, you're going to find stolen passports on every plane because, you know, 500,000 were stolen or lost last year, something like that. i don't know if that is the case or not. >> one of the guys had flight connects to go to rome and one frankfurt. if you blow up a ticket, why not buy a one way ticket? >> you have to get a chinese visa and one other step on the passport chain that might expose

them. they both bought the tickets from the same bureau in thailand. >> interpol has a database and they would check that before they let you on the plane and this airline didn't dou it. >> a flight like this will crash or disappear and a couple of that still bother me. now -- >> i know where you're going. >> you and my husband. oh, boy. >> lockerbie? >> the twa flight 8 hundred where that one supposedly broke up and fell out of the sky. >> they know what happened on that flight. >> what happened? >> a fuel tank that was too close to an electrical line and it blew up. >> i don't believe it. >> okay. there's a missile there. >> you're not alone. >> your husband.

>> yeah. >> who does aviation and investigative reporter. >> he has the same feelings. >> that doesn't add up and i tell you what the u.s. air flight to the dr after 9/11 that doesn't add up. you know, sometimes turbulence behind a plane is like a rough wake and a wing will just fall off. no, that doesn't happen. those two flights, i'll telling you. >> steve is -- >> i don't want to sound like my dad, but after we are all gone, we will know what happened. >> where did the moon landing happen? burbank. >> it's a serious story, guys. >> you have those same questions about twa. >> a lot to get to this morning. >> the twa, a friend of mine led the investigation. he was convinced for the first few days after that plane exploded in the sky that, indeed, it was either a bomb or -- but after extensive investigation, it is what steve said it was.

it was fumes and gas tank, electrical. >> paid off by the people at area 51 just to keep it quiet? i'm skeptical. the results are in. senator rand paul is the favorite from cpac for the second year in a row, the u.s. senator from kentucky won the conservative conference's annual straw poll. paul finished with 31% of the vote and nearly tripled tes cruz 11% and followed by ben carson and chris christie. if the straw poll is to be believed, senator marco rubio's stock has fallen in a big way after finishing in second place last year with 23% support, rubio came in seventh this time with around just 6% of the cpac vote. coming off his cpac victory, senator paul looked to differentiate himself from the runner-up. >> what do you think of ted

cruz's practice of confronting, sometimes putting senate republicans, his colleagues, in tough situations? >> you know, i guess i would just say that everybody has their own style. my style is i stand to things and i think people don't question whether i stand for principle but i don't spend a lot of time trying to drag people down. i've been very splicomplimentar mitt romney. we can always get the party better particularly when we do not win but i don't try to criticize the people in the other party because i realize the party has to be bigger, not smaller. >> steve rattner tweeting this morning, not very nice! >> i thought it was nice. >> what? >> wow. >> holy cow. i can't believe mika is wearing that on national tv. >> that's not what that says! stop it! >> you have to sit next to her? >> is it bad? i think it's nice. i have eyes again so i'm

covering my neck. >> why are you tweeting? >> a couple of followers. >> i did not tweet that. what i tweeted was that democrats should be delighted in rand paul gets nominated because he is just a whacko bird who doesn't sound like a whacko bird. >> wait. a whacko bird? >> wait a minute. a guy who wants cut 83% of funding from the department of education wants to abolish hud. >> and hole hillary clinton accountable for her husband's affair. >> i don't think so, joe. >> well, there you go. >> talking points? >> no. >> i looked them up all by myself. >> but you didn't forward them on to hillary 2016. what is your takeaway from cpac, willie? >> well, rand paul, i'm not terribly surprised he won. he won the straw poll last year.

he is very popular there. >> his dad always won. >> that's right. i think chris christie, the reception he got there was interesting to look at. he got rousing ovations when i he began and left and christie, a moment there, reestablished himself among conservatives. >> i think the only message they have is what they said for six years. but that the party has to open up, you know, try and focus on winning and reframe its message to the point where they are open to different types of republicans, but, again, you're like, when you hear something like that, you realize that is what we have been saying around here. you've been leading the charge for years now and they are sort of just beginning to say it now. otherwise, everything they said made me snore. >> they are saying it, and rand paul actually, with all apologies to mr. park avenue

here, silk stocking, billionaire, he is trying to bring the party to new direction. >> ted cruz said it too, actually. >> by the way, ted cruz. i've been complimentary of ted cruz as we have moved forward and i think he is trying to expand out and do it internally. you talk about how great he was speaking off the cuff and speaking off the cuff is a great thing to do if you can do it. but sometimes a word or two gets mangled. i know because i speak off the cuff all the time. >> really? >> boy, he really stepped into it and i don't think he meant to with bob dole when he said bob dole didn't believe in anything basically, and then john mccain said, you know, what deble id h believe of in italy. i know he didn't mean anything like that but you have to be careful when you're poking and

prodding at people and you're the only self-righteous guy in the gang. he imagined to hit 2 out of 3 war heroes. >> did you read his staff's response to that? >> no, i didn't. >> basically, it was this is such a peripheral issue that we shouldn't even be dealing with it. >> no. >> his statement on bob dole was regarded by a member of his staff as a peripheral issue or some such word we shouldn't be -- >> that is something you clean up and move on. >> he has to clean it up. >> he has to and i don't know that anybody knows he meant that. listen. i write basically the same thing in my book that you win when you elect conservatives ideologically. ford and dole and mccain and he does need to clean it up. >> don't act like -- >> i have a question.

the word conservative can mean being things and has many definitions but what does it say about cpac, where the most popular speaker they had and received the most rousing reception is a moron, sarah palin? i mean, she received a reception at that group that took the roof off the place. sophomoric. nearly libelist and not amusing. what does it say about that group? >> back to the ted cruz kerfuffle. in terms of saying something that doesn't -- >> apology for calling her that. >> ted cruz on the bob dole, i'd be trying to say something for 30 seconds. >> he gets the buzz and drives it. >> he should have let me talk because that bus wouldn't have been driven off the street. thank you, mike. >> go ahead. >> no. but ted cruz should have cleaned that up immediately.

it was a dumb thing to say. we talk off the cuff here friday and that was ridiculous and i didn't make my point and it insulted veterans. first thing, i went on twitter and made an apology, it didn't make sense. the first thing you do is clean it up, exactly if you didn't mean it that way and ted cruz probably could have found an example. just clean it up and move on. why can't he say it? >> for saying that about sarah palin. >> i apologize to all veterans for what i said on friday. >> john mccain said he had a conversation with ted cruz on the senate floor the next morning about his comment. i would loved to have been privy to that conversation. >> i really want to see rattner's charts. you're hiding them. >> he must do long charts. on and on and on. >> they are important. >> i didn't see sarah palin. how did she do? pretty well? >> everybody was excited about her. >> she loved her there. >> i have to see it. i did not see that speech. >> you want to see it? >> it was a crowd pleaser.

>> let's show everyone. >> it's a crowd pleaser. >> that's good. that's why they brought her along. >> now we are here and it's out there. not something we wanted to talk about but we will show it. >> it's cheerleading. >> you do that and rush came on a couple of years back. >> good performer. >> she is a great performer and you leave them smiling. so come on. >> it's entertainment. >> nobody will vote for her. it's entertainment. >> barnicle, you need to lighten up. kids are just having fun, okay? >> multimillion dollar moron selling a message? >> stop saying that. >> that extremes love to gobble up. >> she's a very smart woman. you think she's a smart woman? >> i think she is savvy in selling a message that makes a lot of money. >> this is very sad. >> very smart woman. >> very savvy and she believes what she believes even though

you disagree with her. >> does she believe what she believes? >> a mom of five, professional. >> sure. coming up on "morning joe," the mayor of new york city bill de blass row is going to be here. >> i can't wait! i love his pre-k stuff. >> talking to u.s. senate candidate congressman tom cotton. i love him from arkansas. >> oh, no, i'll get beat up. >> and ian brzezinski. he is just back from ukraine. >> this is going to start a family fight at the dinner table. >> he sent us a picture from the barricades. he didn't tell his parents he was going because -- >> my dad and he disagree. >> they do but also where he went was pretty dangerous. coming up next the top stories in politico. first, here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> good monday morning. we have a new tropical storm to talk about moving across the country. this one is going to bring significant winter weather to

northern new england but that may be about it. this looks to be warmer and a lot of us would love some of that rain to clean things up. talk about today's forecast first. today is a beautiful day. d.c., what a stretch you had. a great weekend, especially saturday was nice. a great monday. even philadelphia too. further to the north still deep snow on the ground and won't be as warm and problem in northern new england a deep snow pack and hard to warm you up at this time of the year. seven day snow total estimates and isn't the official forecast but give you a general idea what our computers are painting. there will be snow on the ground from areas of northern ohio through central pennsylvania and southern new england but those areas more or less rain over to snow in the end. once you get north of the mass pike and the new york state freeway up around albany and burlington and maine and bangor area could have a significant snowstorm for you. the timing of it even from boston wednesday looks to be kind of a wintry mess for you. and then getting colder into snow. 25 degrees this time of year for a high during the daylight

hours? it's a very cold day by march standards and what you'll deal with in boston. as far as the rest of the country goes, doesn't look like the storm will cause too much trouble with the exception of snow in montana and idaho and into montana. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ ♪ bring it home yeah bring it home ♪

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of a tsunami either. >> parents are their cameras rolling during a show during a musical at california high school but instead of capturing the performance they witnessed a terrifying moment. >> holy [ bleep ]! >> look! get out of the way! get out of the way! >> ruffle 250 girls from rosary high school were on the stage when it came crashing down. officials say the platform wasn't built to support that many people. i know football stadiums that weren't built to support that many people. more than two dozen students were injured and none of the injuries are considered life-threatening but you're right. why would they put that many people on a stage? >> poor girls and must have been frightening for everyone. lucky it wasn't worse. the "atlanta

journal-constitutio journal-constitution". a new blood test will predict who will develop alzheimer's. th the only tests currently available is mris and more than 5 million people in the u.s. are living with alzheimer's. >> from "the washington times." the pope believes it's time for the church to study same sex civil unions. timothy dolan wants to determine why some people want to support the issue but stressed the study wasn't an endorsement. >> he didn't come out and say he was for them. once again, in an extraordinarily sincere, open nuance, he said, i know that some people in some states have chosen this. we need to think about that and look into it and see the reasons it has driven them. >> reporter: in an interview last week the pope said marriage is between a man and a woman but

also added, quote, we have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety. "wall street journal," hbo go is getting blasted by fans when the online streaming service crashed during the finale. that's not good. fans experienced a spinning circle on a black screen and turned to twitter to express their frustration. hbo responded saying it experienced overwhelming demand when too many people logged in at the same time. the series average 11 million viewers per week, including people watching on demand and on hbo go. >> mike barnicle, a huge fan. did you see the finale last night? they both got killed. i never saw that coming. >> that did not happen. >> no, just out of left field. >> stop it. >> one bullet takes them both down. >> not both. >> didn't get both of them? >> incredible tv show. >> the most well-written, well-conceived, well-acted,

incredible acting by woody harrelson and matthew mcconaughey in that program. >> the boys at grant land disagree. i hear it's amazing. i hear it's just fantastic stuff. have you seen any of it? >> no. i don't have time to watch television. >> hbo has hbo on demand. >> but then i'll get to watch a circle. >> in the end you're gel an error prompt to direct you to health.gov. >> are you sure that wasn't the end of "sopranos"? is it over? spin here and has you thinking? >> like the end of the redford movie. willie, did you ever see "lost"? >> no. >> seriously, willie and everybody out there, watch "all is lost." >> amazing. beautiful. >> redford, why that wasn't nominated. >> it actually makes the whole event that we went to a little bit less serious. >> correct.

and the ending was just -- oh! the ending was phenomenal. that's all i have to say. >> go to politico and the chief white house correspondent there is mike allen with a look at the playbook. good morning. >> good morning. >> your lead story on politico.com big biz takes on the tea party but gently. what do you mean by that? >> very gently. a lot of republicans are upset. we talked on the show business was talking big about taking on the tea party in the civil action saying they weren't going to have any more todd aiken and go into the problems early and back strong candidates and push out weak candidates. but, willie, that hasn't materialized. there have been a couple of races that businesses played big in, but they haven't taken on any incumbent lawmakers who are responsible for gridlock and there haven't been that many early races where they have put their bets down. willie, there is one stat that says it all.

the u.s. chamber of commerce. a big muscle in the party so long plans to spend about $50 million on these mid terms. americans for prosperity, one of the big tea groups and koch groups plan to spend $70 million to have that in north carolina by itself, much more than that as a country as a whole. so businesses voice is getting a small market show. >> what is pro business republicans waiting to hear and sitting on the shrine? one piece in a businessman who says he took the party away from extremists who don't believe in the realities of compromise and negotiation. what are they waiting to see from here looking forward before they put their money in? >> they say a huge moment business needs to push against the gridlock and push against people who are responsible for these shutdowns but the problem is these big organizations aren't nimble. at the top, there definitely is religion about this. they definitely understand the need to do this after those

embarrassing senate losses last time. they could have probably taken the majority and didn't. but these organizations just aren't able to turn and act that quickly. >> willie, i think it's fascinating if you look what is happening in the primary process in kentucky. politico writes about this this morning. kentucky is a great example. you heard that bevin was going to be a great challenge to mitch mcconnell. you heard other republican establishment figures endangered in 2014 like in 2010. that's just not happening. the establishment wing of the republican party, willie, looks like they are winning one after another after another and that kentucky race is not even close, is it? >> no. mike, you would know about this because in a piece this morning. new polling showing mitch mcconnell has opened up a pretty big lead on his primary challenger bevin. >> a poll from public opinion strategies, a very respected republican organization for the special pac.

they show 38-point gap in that race. even if it's not that big, what they are showing is a big movement by mcconnell and a collapse by bevin that joe signaled here on the show. >> john cornyn last week, we heard for sometime, mike, that cornyn early on might be in trouble. ted cruz wouldn't even come out and say that he would support him and, of course cornyn just crushed all of the opponents, starting with steve stockman. another example of how main street republicans are winning and big in these primaries. >> and courageously cruz supported cornyn the next day. tiger woods shakes off a back injury and making a run for a championship. we will see how he did next on "morning joe" sports. salesperson #1: the real deal's the passat tdi clean diesel

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tiger woods in contention in the morning yesterday but out of contention by the afternoon. still having back trouble. tied for 25th and came in fourth place and finished at 25th. patrick reed becomes the youngest win inewinner. lebron james without his protect mask despite not being medically cleared. >> why wasn't he wearing it? >> he doesn't like the way it feels when he plays. threw it off a couple of days as well. >> sometimes you have to wear it for protection whether you like how it feels or not. >> saying it is uncomfortable. tied at 86. lebron with the ball and chance for the win but jimmy butler pokes it away and in the end bulls win. chicago hands the heat a third conservative loss 95-88. houston, blazers visiting the rockets. end of the fourth quarter. houston trailing 106-103. james harden buries a tough three and ties the game and sends us to overtime.

portland up three and 2:00 left. harden again with a big three to tie it. how good is he? same score. 30 seconds later, jeremy lin the go ahead jumper. he had 26 and harden had 41 points. houston gets the victory. >> how is lin doing in houston? >> okay the last couple of years. he made that money off the run with the knicks and god bless him and he ask doing fine. >> is phil coming to new york? phil jackson? >> he is making his decision perhaps today. >> god they need him! >> a source at espn says he wants to get back to work in the nba. he won 11 championships. >> a lot of work to do there! >> how great would it be to have phil jackson running that organization as a knicks fan? >> by the way, get rid of carmelo anthony day one who is showing attitude about him coming because, of course, it wouldn't be all about him. >> team killer, carmelo anthony. >> he is. get phil jackson here and start winning. it's what i said when alabama, year after year after year we were mired in mediocritad odioc.

get somebody that has a record of winning that knows how to win, that has the rings, bring them. they will fix your organization if you get out of the way and let them do it. it's the same thing with the knicks. if the knicks bring jackson, they have got a great shot. >> you still have dolan. >> notice what i said. the owners have to get out of the way and let jackson run it just like, you know, we had the problem at alabama where there were all of these people that played for bear and were friends with bear and all of this other stuff that always got in the way, the coach never had the power. saban came in, i have the power and i'll answer to one person and everybody else get the hell out of my way and let me run my program. look what we have done. the knicks need to do the same thing. dolan needs to get out of the way and hire jackson and win a championship. >> people have been saying that a long time. >> phil jackson would not take

the job if he didn't have that. if he comes you know he will run it. >> dolan will let him win championships. >> the new york knicks has not won an nba title in 41 years. that is totally unacceptable. >> i bet the dolan's will get out of the way. >> i don't know. >> you guys are skeptics. if they bring phil jackson in? >> college hoops. number five virginia may be playing for a one seed. visiting maryland. less than two seconds to play. anthony hill hits the game tying shot and overtime. cavs run out of steam in a.c. 75-69, virginia wins. indiana state playing wichita state in the missouri valley title game and wichita win and 34-0 now. they get a wied ancaa bid. the first time since unlv to go

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countering this long-term strategy of putin's to gather these states back under moscow's control. i do not believe that crimea will slip out of russian's hands. >> you think crimea is gone? >> i do. >> let's start there for our must read opinion section. that was former defense chief bob gates on the situation in ukraine. the new leaders of ukraine's young government will visit the white house this week. it's a trip set against the backdrop of tense protests across this country. in crimea, proukrainian determines were met by violence by pro russian groups. another town russian sympathizers took over the streets to call for a referendum to succeed from ukraine. president putin is backing such a plan for crimea and more russian military trucks came to the region over the weekend and while putin himself has denied russian involvement in crimea,

an a.p. reporting personally saw russian license plates on the trucks. it is, obviously, a tense situation and the white house, dr. jeffrey sachs, who is joining is now, is criticized at times, especially republicans, for not doing enough. what is being done? >> well, there isn't so much that can be done in the short term which is what the former secretary of defense just said. there are no military options certainly. russia is there and it's a fact it's on the ground. i think this can't be accepted, obviously. diplomacy has to play an important step. >> russia will use military force to get its way and the west will not and should not. you talk about the division of ukraine. then you go on and say the question at hand is whether they

can function to stop this from occurring. in my view, you say the answer is yes. how can that happen? >> i think one thing that has not been adequately noted right now is that the stakes here are actually far bigger than ukraine or even far bigger than what rus russia is doing. that is ukraine is protected not only by international law but by a specific treaty of the united states, russia and the uk. if ukraine gives us its weapons those three powers will protect ukraine's sovereignty. >> forget the political cladder and everybody pointing fingers inside and outside this country, the long-term ramifications of that, of having the country that had the third most nuclear weapons on the planet, giving

those nuclear weapons up for exchange for a protection of their borders and to blow past that, it's devastating and we can't do it. have to on remain intact for the entire international system. >> it's not just the system of international law, it's nuclear peace on the planet. so the stakes here are extraordinarily high and in this memorandum that was signed by the three powers in 1994, it says ukraine, the russian federation, the united kingdom and the united states will consult in the event of a situation that arises and raises a question concerning these commitments. there is a formal obligation for the four powers to consult right now. not unilateral moves of referendums or anextization. i think this could be terrible for global security actually. >> steve rattner, jump in. >> okay, i get that and that exists. but sort of now, today, 20 years

later in the real world. >> this is the real world, steve. >> all right. but talk about 2014. what do we do? you say ukraine has to say intact. bob gates says crimea is gone and it seems to me crimea is gone. are you guys saying it's unacceptable for the west to let crimea become part of russia again? >> yes, under this treaty. >> i know, but how do you implement it and how do you make that happen? >> i think what russia would need to understand if we are careful and appropriate under international law is that any move that is made could not be recognized by the world so that crimea could not be part of normal treaties, normal business relations, normal financial relations. in other words, russia would step into a trap that go on for years and decades and i think this is extraordinarily danger for them and if they take this legal step completely in violation of the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and

international law, the consequences, i believe, for russia, not militarily, but in terms of economy and international relations to the years to come would be costly. i think it would be a huge blunder for them to do that. >> the precedent on the global stage is so devastating, especially as we move forward and more countries are going to be trying to get nuclear weapons in the coming years, because of technology is going to be easier to get a hold of. to allow this treaty to just be run through by putin and just accept it. >> can't be done. >> it can't be done. >> i don't disagree with that but -- >> you start those, steve, by saying if you're an official of the united states government, what bob gates said. i got great respect for him and let him say that, he is not a public official, but barack obama and the people who signed this treaty need to let the russians know. we signed this in 1994. this is the law. this is a guarantee that we made to ukraine and you are going to

adhere to this law and we are going to fight tooth and nail every day until you get out of crimea. >> this is a solemn document of global importance according to the united nations. >> and crimea is filled with russians in terms of the total population. >> let's not forget the russians signed that in 1994 with us. you're sitting here -- >> joe, i agree with you and love to see this happen but i'm trying to be practical and say to myself and how do we get these -- >> i'm saying we need to get this president and the next president to work with our allies and figure out how to make sure that this does not hold, that it is nothing more than perhaps de facto influence because, again, the long-term consequences, the precedent is absolutely devastating for the international community. it just is. >> we are going to be talking a lot more about this in the next hour. dr. sachs, stay with us. a lot coming up.

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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." here us is democratic mayor of new york city, mayor bill de blass jo. great to have you on the show. >> it has been a rough ride, we willy geist. >> what? >> i found out something that is will make it a little rougher. >> what? a red sox fan. >> i'm walking and barnicle gives me "the boston globe" sports section so can i keep in touch with my red sox. >> you were born here but your family -- >> moved up there when i was 5 and 1967, carlton fisk, i lived through all of that. >> i'm the only yankee fan in this table in new york state? >> new york city. >> you are the only one. so we have got a lot to talk

about. >> how are your kids doing? >> they are wonderful. >> how is the job? kind of boring, isn't it? >> it's pretty boring. i expected a little more excitement. i don't get it. >> what is with the snowstorm? one snowstorm after another after another. you're doing a crappy job on that front. i want it warm. okay? >> it's coming up. >> okay? >> major snowstorms in seven weeks. >> i told people if they elected you this city was going to hell. >> see what happened? >> where is your global warming? >> what happened? >> dr. sachs, does global warming cause highs? >> let's not get into your problems, mika. >> this would be a new area of research. >> okay. >> mr. mayor, we have a lot to cover. let's start first, though. you know i'm a uniter, not a divider. >> that's right. >> start by something that unites and i think most people around this table in new york and that is pre-k. mika is very excited to participate with you guys and

the board. >> some sort of advisory role, i'll take it. >> then we can fight on the air about that. talk about pre-k and paying for it and why it's so important for new york city, not only for the city but the country? >> joe, i know everyone on this team cares deeply about education so i look at new york city public schools of the kids who graduate, 1 in 4 are college ready. that's according to the state education department here in new york. 1 in 4 college ready amongst children of carolinas. latinos and african-americans college ready. that is unacceptable. when you think about something so prevasively wrong we know around this table if we don't fix, we dam our future. how do you get out? the root cause. a lot of kids are not getting the education they need early enough. >> they are not ready when they start kindergarten? >> yes. we have a lot to do to fix our schools. there are many fronts we have to face this battle. a lot of reforms we have to make

but it begins by recognizing the most available opportunity for learning is when kids are 3 and 4 years old. and in this country and certainly in this city, we just don't go far enough on early childhood education. it could be as common as kindergarten is today and first grade is today so my plans are pre-k for every child in the city. >> you're wearing a button. >> we have a campaign to achieve a plan and require support from albany. >> universal pre-k? >> yes. literally full day. >> wonderful. >> full day pre-k for every child in naerkt. second part of the plan is after school for every middle school student because that is the time when kids start to drift potentially from their studies and towards bad influences. we want to keep them in a safe, secure place and extend the learning day and a way to do that and one of the easiest ways is high quality after school with a teaching component and where we are trying to go. >> the evidence is actually overwhelming at this point and i was going to just mention that

new study by james heckman, university of chicago, not a hot bed of intervention said you must do early childhood education, early childhood development. it has lifelong consequences. it's the time to invest. so the evidence has grown and grown and grown that this is exactly the way to go. and for the after-school, also extremely timely because that is when so-called noncognitive, when the behavior, the good influences can take hold with kids at that age, so this is exactly the combination that is needed. i think everybody agrees it's how to get if done. >> how to pay for it, willie. >> look. i want to say i'm a progressive but i agree with the critique that has been applied to many progressives and like to forget the part how you pay for it. not everyone agrees with it but i think we could do a small tax on those who make 500,000 or more and allow us to pay for this and have sgret funding.

a product placement, for folks who make 500,000 they would pay about $900 a year. that is the cost of a small soy latte at starbucks. >> that is where you are every morning, byly, getting your soy latte. >> i don't get touched by that tax too. your soy latte intake. >> i wanted to speak had the way the culture would understand. >> mr. mayor, i think everyone at this table, i can't imagine anyone who wouldn't say amen. i have young children. i saw the benefits of preschool and what it done for them before they got to pre-k. you say a small tax on those making 500,000 or more in new york city. governor cuomo from albany says 2.5 billion over five years for the program for existing funds. if he is giving thaw money why

go the next step and say i want to apply a new tax. >> the governor believes in pre-k. i used to work for him in the clinton administration so i have a lot of respect for him. he said he wanted to help us. we have not seen the final plan yet and the plans he talks about is statewide. we need the verification here for new york city that we will have the money each year we need for five years. >> how much per year? >> $530 million a year. half a billion dollars a year for five years. our goal is get this up and running and solidified and permanent. then i've said we have to find a lot of other -- >> so i understand that. >> other cost savings to pay for it. >> i've looked at the state numbers -- >> if cuomo comes up with that money for you, do you still need the tax or if it's guaranteed 540 million dollars a year, is that fine? >> 100% said if we have a

verifyivable plan for five years and dollar figures we need, we can accept that. but i've also said given the vague reason at albany, and you've seen them, that we will have anything verifiable and consistent on the tax plan. >> i think it's important that albany has to look after the whole state of new york and not just the city of new york. what the governor put up for the whole state was less than the city itself needs. what the legislators in albany need to understand is that if new york pays its way, then there is money for the whole state. this is a win/win for everybody. so it's basic arithmetic. >> what we are talking about, what willie is bringing up, is what has been out there, this is you got your fundings and you wanted to go ahead and raise taxes regardless. that's an issue. >> have you, mayor, had private conversations with the governor in which he said i cannot present a verifyive plan or what is the road block here? >> let me put it this way. i think the fact is we know if

you don't control your own revenue, good luck to you. i want to be clear. joe, i've watched the show a while and i got some of your world view. i understand when you say is it a tax -- >> it's frightening, isn't it? >> it's clear, i'll give you that. is it a tax for tax sake? of course not. always about achieving the end. i believe the virtue is more of a dedicated tax. we might be common in our believes than i might imagine. it means whatever challenges you're going through, you know that stream is there. i think early childhood education and after school is so important they need to be held harmless from the other challenges we go with our budget and they are many. 152 open labor contracts in new york city. massive physical challenges ahead. i want to make sure if we fix or schools and we get to the root cause and why i want the money to be dedicated and sgret and protected. if there is a real way to it and i've had good conversations with the governor but we haven't gotten to the point of a five

year plan we could hang our hat on. so i stand with the idea that dedicated tax from our own people paying for our own program is the best way but open to an alternative that gets the job done. >> i disagree on this as you pointed out. another high profile issue in which you disagree with governor cuomo on. take a look at this. >> you are here 11,000 strong. you are braving the cold to stand up for your rights and the senator is exactly right. this is the most important civic lesson you will learn because this is democracy and this is how you make your voice heard! and we are here today to tell you that we stand with you. you are not alone! we will save our schools. >> okay. charter schools. that started 20,000 feet. are you against charter schools? >> no, i've never been against

charter schools. look. there is so much drama in political life. why don't we go to facts? i've said charter schools are a part of the lineup. we will work would them. on our preschool and after school programs we work with charter schools too. i stood with cardinal dolan on thursday. the whole educational structure, every piece of it matters. i have to worry about 1.1 million kids a year. by the way, only 70,000 go to charters but i care about those 70,000. >> let's stay there. if you're not against charter schools what are the political or perhaps personal issues at hand here? here's a clip of you from last year at a forum hosted by the united federation of teachers talking about a woman who runs the most successful charter schools in new york. take a look. >> time for eva moskowitz to have the run of the place. she has to stop being tolerated,

enabled, supported. i have seen her schools have a destructive impact on the schools are going into. that's the bottom line. whatever is happening in her classrooms, and i respect some children are being educated well in her classrooms -- what i detest is the notion it's at the expense of the schools she is -- where those children matter too. and it wouldn't happen, it wouldn't happen if she didn't have a lot of money and power and political privilege behind her and if doe didn't say, yes, ma'am, every single time and that is going to end when i'm mayor. >> i'm going to let you talk, but, first of all, her schools, especially the one impackets impacted by your decisions performing at fifth grade level the highest in the state of new york. in the state of new york in math, better than bronxville and scarsdaily and think about these communities that have resources and then her school performing at the highest level. number one in math and number

two in english. she is head of the success academied. given the impact her schools might have on public schools, which you'll have to explain to me, i want to know after hearing that sound bite is it personal, sir? >> 77% are from low income households. i think 90% are minority students. >> i have a school system of 1.1 million schools and i think 80% are of color. we are all working on same challenge together. one, we are going to accommodate 194 kids in the school we did not believe was a smart relocation and find another way to get them to a quality space so that school can go forward and i've said that very publicly. >> what is wrong with this space? >> what is wrong with this space? ps 811, the mickey mantle school is in that space. it is a school just for special education kids, kids with very severe special education challenges. if success academy went in, that

school would have to be much smaller and we could not reach as many special ed kids. >> with all due respect three facilities coming online and those kids would have had a place so it's a little bit -- i-going to trust my own department of education and say we believe we need to take care of special education kids. this was a facility working with special education kids and we want to reach more special education kids and there is an alternative we can find for success academy that will work for them. >> doesn't it look like you're targeting eva moskowitz what you say in the campaign and those are the first three schools you go after? >> one, we approved five success academy schools and we disagreed with three and approved of five and proofed 15 charter schools. i do think the facts matter a lot here. the bottom line we got to fix the whole school system so charters play a role in that but a lot of other things have to happen. the schools on the receiving end matter too. >> wait. what don't you like about eva

moskowitz? that statement seemed very personal. >> it's quite substantive and i respect her abilities and some of what she has achieved with kids. disrupting what another school is trying to do the process was not handled right by the preadministration. we want to do it the right way. >> how about the process of shutting down that school? you had said that bloomberg did things in serbian way where he would just, you know, shut down schools willy-nilly and you made a lot of promises on the campaign trail that you talked to parents. there would be a vote. you would talk to people affected. but you didn't do that and these three schools did. you just shut them down unilaterally. >> we end to do this right. parents matter deeply in this. i'm a public school parent myself. parents were not consulted. with all due respect to mayor bloomberg and i know the respect you have with mayor bloomberg and i agree with him on areas but this one i disagree. >> he has 23 billion.

how much do you have? >> just a second. >> not that much, joe. >> then there you go! joke, mika. come on! come on! >> i do not have that much. >> he never gave me any of so go ahead. >> the parents in the schools that exist now are stake holders and care deeply about their children and the schools. we have to make sure -- not just a charter, other locations with other types of public traditional schools. you can't take away a kids chance to go the gym and make them eat lunch at 9:00 this morning. we have to fix that. is there a way to peacefully coexist and charters play an important role in the lineup but we have to have a better balance. >> that new -- in terms of following procedure, they argued you did not. in fact -- >> this was something -- >> 10:15 today we are going to have a news conference, sec academies and the parents and they are going to announce they are going to the board of regents over your head to try

and get your decision reversed and then if not, they are going to sue because procedure was not followed, not consulted. >> isn't it a little ironic that, obviously, there are space constraints and tradeoffs and so forth. then when it comes to raising a little bit of revenue by people at the very top of the income distribution, that is also when -- if we go back to what we were talking about just a few minutes ago, these space constraints wouldn't be so tight. the challenges of special need students and charter schools wouldn't be so strong if a little bit of money were put into the school system and when people at the very top of the income distribution are given a free pass or asked for a free pass, that's a problem. >> o no, no, no, no, no. >> it is a problem when we have when we have, as of yesterday, the new "forbes" issue, the amount of money that is available for this, it's really

significant. so let's put in the resources. >> just to finish on your question. i am being sued by, if you will, by left and right. >> right. >> i want that to be clear. >> you are getting it from all sides for sure. a man without a country. >> so let me be clear. we were -- we were receiving a set of decisions by the bloomberg administration, we have to decide in very little amount of time before the new school year begins in september what to do. we thought of the 45 locations that bloomberg proposed we thought 36 were acceptable and good education policies. what did we say no to? locations put in elementary school in a high school building. >> you have functioning situation like that in the city. >> we think it's bad policy. >> you think it's bad policy but you're taking schools that are successful and that are actually quality and winning in the state and shutting them down. >> we are not shutting them down. i have said we will work with them. >> will you work with eva

moskowitz. >> there is concern about whether you want to notify people -- >> mika, i have 1.1 million kids and a lot to help them and it starts with pre-k and after school. >> let me ask it this way, mr. mayor, with all due respect. your son goes to brooklyn tech and 13 million dollar endowment a highly selective school and you're excited he goes there. if you found out he wasn't going there next year, wouldn't you want to know what the plan was? do you think you played this out in a way that might not have been effective? >> i think we had to be clear and i'm glad we are clear now with people that we are going to make sure that that school and those 194 kids get accommodated but we need to talk about the kids how we fix our schools and with respect to the folks in the charter movement who want to do good. for the 95% of kids in traditional public schools that is my first obligation. if we don't get the pre-k done and after school done, we can't fix it and don't do better

teacher retention and training. a lot of charters schools are protected and more maryland problem is the teacher retention. >> a lot of people i've talked to are big supporters of yours. >> i agree about teacher retention. >> that is what we support that a lot more. >> you're doing with pre-k don't understand your position on charters and, quite frankly, don't understand the union's position on charters. in new york city, how many kids are this in charters? >> 76 thousand tho. >> the waiting list is 50,000 and it's not a bunch of rich kids from manhattan that want to get in there. it's some of the poorest and most disadvantaged children of color. i agree with you. i mean, for me, charter schools make sense because they could teach us how to make the entire public school system better. why not expand and open the doors and figure out a way to let the 50,000 get into new charter, public charter schools,

not private charter schools, so we can actually learn? the gates foundation has spent billions of dollars trying to figure out what works and doesn't work. we can learn from some of these charters schools things rah that are working. >> many of the charters schools are not working. that is what the gates foundation -- >> exactly. i know. a lot of them aren't working. >> there's no automatic -- >> we found the ones that are working and you have one of these schools outperforming scarsdale and bronxville, figure out what they are doing right. >> i agree. >> and emulate it. >> we accept the notion that charters have something to teach us and we want to learn from them. a lot of traditional public schools are doing well and we want to learn from that as well. i think you are a patriot. we are not positioned properly. >> i agree. >> and anyone who thinks, because we have made some minor

progress, we should rest on our laurels. we are fundamentally opposition. charters may help in the equation for sure but if we don't get early education right, then we are kidding ourselves about a lot of poor kids and a lot of kids of color will will not get a chance to make it. we don't get the teacher retention. >> so important. >> find me a front page article about teacher retention. i could find you a thousand on charter schools. find me one on teacher retention. >> we be happy to do a 20-minute segment on that. part of teacher retention is paying teachers a salary they can live on. >> paying them, training them and show they matter in our society. >> i bet if you did a look at how the different schools including charters pay their teachers and private schools, you'd have a retention issue right there. i want to bring it to 20,000 feet for one last second and that is you and cuomo now disagree on paying for pre-k and charter schools. what are you going to do to try to bridge that divide? don't you need to work with the governor of this state? will you call for a meeting? >> hold on. i've been talking to him

constantly. a friend of 20 years. you can't find an article on front page about teacher retention and cuomo and i are working together constantly. i know he cares deeply about pre-k to his credit and i think a way to get this done. i still believe the plan we put forward is the most reliable and effective. we are trying to jolt a broken system. i think we have a lot of common ground. our education system is broken. if you know early childhood education is the single highest impact you you could make if this were a business we would be around the table saying that is where we get the multiplier factor and put our chips this i will do it in a bold swway and he has another way to do it, we will do it. >> doa teachers and officials and people in the charter school world and people in the charter schools who say why are we under assault and why is this mayor so

hostile what we are doing. we don't take any wall street money. they have been lumped together as backed by wall street and big money people. they say we are out here grinding in the bronx trying to do something better than in many cases the public schools can do. why be hostile to the idea? even if it's not all of the charter schools and i accept that why be hostile to something that is working and even in a small sliver it's wok,ing? >> if you were a lawyer i would say you're leading the witness. i would say charters is a constant part of the lineup. >> it looks like it. >> looks like an important word. >> if you say eva has to be taken care of and you knock three of her schools off the top you would say there is -- >> what about the five of her schools. >> are going through? >> the 14 charters we proofed a -- approved and if you say you guys could have done better relations you're right but not the point. why was he sitting next to cardinal dolan on thursday? i know the catholic schools will be a part of the solution too.

we actually are big tent as to a lot of charters. you're right. a lot of charters have quite a humble in their resources and we have said not only do we want to work with them, we think they are a part of the solution and think they will be great partners. i don't want to muddy this situation. i start with a simple equation. 1.1 million kids, most of whom, if they even get to high school to the ends of high school, and graduate, will still not be college ready. it's a big set of things we have to do to fix it. charters are a part of the solution and pre-k and after school are even a bigger part of the foundation. >> charter is part of the story here and bring it back to two feet. it's all about eva moskowitz in this fight. i'm eva. talk to me. you're displacing my kids. what am i supposed to do with my successful kids? >> it's not about eva or out or me. it's about the kids and coming up with a policy to fix our schools. as for the 194,000 kids we will

find a location for them. >> even if miss moskowitz is in charge of those? >> of course. it's not about her but it's about fixing our schools overall. >> i got a really angry e-mail from mayor bloomberg. >> what? >> it ends up -- yeah. >> what did he say? >> i understated his income. it's not -- >> you don't do that with him. >> no. >> that was a faux pas. >> i did that on a jet with him. i was sitting with reverend al and john legend. i said how much he makes. he goes like this. >> next time, say 5 billion more than you think it is just to be safe. >> he was very angry that i said it in front of men. >> two things. i want to be clear. we are all for education here. we want the city to be better and i know you are too. >> help us achieve pre-k for every child in new york city. let's talk about that more. >> we are mad about something and we have got one of the toughest guys in america on our side. willie? >> a street fight out there.

>> a street fight. mayor de blasio versus liam neeson and it's about horse-drawn carriages. may i read a quote from liam neeson? >> he will kill terrorists on a transatlantic flight. >> he said there was a tour of some of the stables yesterday. quote, you didn't go on the tour he should have manned up and come. >> come on, man. >> line in the sand from liam neeson. >> i'm a liam neeson fan and i am but horses in the streets of the city today don't make sense. they have been banned in cities all over the world. we are going to fix it. >> but this is new york city, man! come on! this is new york city! >> we have a lot of other things going on than horse carriages. >> will you come back and give me a talk on teacher retention? >> i would love nothing more. if you can get a national conversation started on getting the best teachers and getting them to stay at teachers then

you would be doing a great thing. >> you said it enough. i'm going to have to say one of the things that charter schools can do without a lot of the rules attached, they can reward success and they can punish failure. >> they have the same challenges. >> you do agree that is part of it, right? we have got to be able to reward success and punish failure. >> i don't think we should do across our society -- either way if we don't find a way to make the teaching profession people want to stick with -- >> you're going to finland with us? >> certainly. is barnicle coming with us? don't exclude him. >> we have to because he gets us and larry will bring us in. >> you're staring up at the monster. >> dr. sachs, thank you. how did the mayor do? >> cumbayah, baby, cumbayah.

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♪ a live look. we saw larry last weekend. >> larry is doing great, by the way. >> he put this in my mouth. >> louis is a spoonful of sugar. >> let's bring on the former deputy secretary, ian brzezinski. you're back from ukraine and tell us what you saw over there and yesterday, we had bob gates

saying that crimea was lost. can you hear us? this is t.j. he does this. >> thanks, t.j. my own brother, really some you're going to do that? >> do you think he is cranky? >> we are going to work on that. >> you do that. thomas roberts, you're doing "the view" today and why your hair is spiky? >> no. i got a haircut. you can run your fingers through it. >> let me see what we got here. oh, it's kind of thin! i thought your hair would be more -- it's kind of cute. all right. >> do you see the way she flirts with me? >> i do. i do. >> come here, cutie. it was my dad. he pulled the plug on ian. >> he did. he didn't want him to come on our show, your father. he said, stop it. >> cut it. >> we are having an ongoing fight here at the table. it is a vicious fight about ukraine. you think jeffrey sachs and i

have our head in the clouds and we will talk about that in a minute. we have just reconnected with ian. >> can you hear us? >> i. >> you're back from ukraine. tell us what you saw over there, first of all, and do you agree with bob gates that crimea is all but lost? >> wow. >> well, we were in crimea -- excuse me. we were in kiev on thursday and friday, and three things struck me. first was the profound determination of the ukrainian authorities to seize a second chance to consolidate ukraine's independence and to further its integration into the west and into europe. they recognized they need to take big steps. they need to think big. they need to undertake economic and global reform. it's a very different feeling than i experienced 20 years ago when i was a volunteer there. there is a profound sense of national determination and commitment to get it right so we need to support that. the second is that i was struck by the kind of resolute calm

among ukrainian authorities in the face of russia's invasion of crime as d. they are determined not to be provoked into escalating this crisis into a violence they know they cannot win in. >> we are showing some of your pictures, the ones before, took some pictures. it's fascinating. in the face of putin's aggression in the eastern part of the country there is a resolve in the western part? >> there is a steady resolve but it's also backed, not just by the west and part of ukraine, but also eastern ukraine. far more unity than is described in the western press. this is not a divided country. it has divisions but it's not divided. i will add one impression that i had while the ukrainians appreciate greatly western articulations of support, they still remain uncertain the depth of that commitment and how it will translate into transible

and economic and security assistance. for good reason. >> how do you look at what happened in '08 with bush and georgia and get to the black sea under putin and now what we are seeing in the crimea region this border war? georgia's borders weren't adjusted but to get the black sea because of oil. i think a lot of us are not talking about the oil aspect of this land grab that putin is basically getting away with. >> well, the oil aspect is important and enhancing ukraine's energy security should be part of our strategy. but it's not just oil that putin is after. he is after re-creating some sort of space akin to the former soviet union. you remember, he called the collapse of the soviet union the greatest cass taft fee of his

life. >> we were talking about crime a and former secretary of defense bob gates comments yesterday that crimea was lost. a view a number of us share. there was some talk on this set about a different view that it was part of this 194 treaty and had to be gotten back. what is the view in kiev what is going to happen in crimea? >> ukrainian authorities are working hard to sustain the last efforts they have over crimea. they have 20 snaulgs they control and 16 of them are military and how to leverage that to sustain the notion of ukrainian sovereignty under crimea and no impressions they can force russians out. they are looking for a strong response from the west which i have to say hasn't really occurred yet. >> mike barnicle? >> ian, one of the biggest, most significant differences between the time that the soviet union

did collapse and today, is that there is a stock market in moscow. wouldn't be it easier implemented to go after putin economically rather than sending the first marine division into the ukraine? >> well, first, i would say that you need to understand that putin isn't the opponent we would like to have. he's not a lawyer. he's not a litigator. he's not a market capitalist. he's a guy from the cold war. a former kgw colonel who understands the use of force. while i would agree with you we need to be executing economic sanctions, that we have to have a comprehensive approach that includes a military dimension and i would add, you know, it's been two weeks since the russians began their invasion of cri crimea and it's to warnings of sanctions and cancellations of a few meetings and six fighter jets to the baltics. the united states has to start

acting on these sanctions now. executing them now. deploying forces in a serious way that complicates russian planning are the actions that putin understands and the actions he is most likely to respond to in a scruff way. >> ian, thank you for being with us. we are going to be -- i think you're down to d.c. later this week? >> thursday morning i'll be there. >> if you can, give us a follow-up on thursday morning in d.c. you'll have your little sister around the table and you can knock her around a little bit like you and mark did before. they were terrible to you, weren't they? >> they beat the crap out of me. my lord. >> they were loving it. >> they were. mark wanted to be a border patrol and he arrested me. ian just had a rage that was explicable. >> wearing their uniforms. >> he is adorable! >> an act of war! show them that. >> no, this is an act of war and i have to go down there? >> i told you. this guy is such a neocon.

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♪ when i look at congressman cotton's record, i don't see where he has passed a bill. i don't see where he's really accomplished anything in the house. and he seems to have run for the house just in order to run for the senate. >> how do you view his two tours of duty in afghanistan and iraq in context with that? >> i have total respect for

that. i appreciate that and will never criticize anyone for serving our country and i say thank you for that. >> reporter: you don't see it as a qualification to become a senator? >> no. there's a lot of people in the senate that didn't serve in the military. in the senate, we have all kinds of different people and all kinds of different folks that have come from all different kinds of backgrounds and i think that is part of this sense of entitlement that he gives off is that almost like i served my country, therefore, let me into the senate. that's how it works in arkansas. >> well, let me just -- >> he has the sense of entitlement. >> what are you doing? do it. >> i think he has some grey poupon and caviar on the sleeve there. sense of entitlement. >> it's an air. >> i bet he has his name on the inside of that suit like donny deutsche. >> joe, don't fall off. that was mark pryer, blasting

representative tom cotton in our "morning joe" place of states by kasie hunt. here is congressman tom cotton. >> i'm sure your parents are up watching. >> i'm sure my mom has been watching since 6:00. >> it's how bads are. what part offen arkansas? >> river valley. my dad's family has been there about 150 years or so. a small cattle farm. >> a lot of people say of that region people come out of there with a real sense of entitlement. >> are you entitled? >> you can tell, though, tom when you hear senator pryor who keeps talking about sense of entitlement. you can tell they polled it and his political people are saying keep repeating it.

what sense of entitlement is he talking about? >> i don't know. i never learned growing up chasing after cattle and the last thing my drill sergeant's

for 2007 and 2008, win the people over. it's not just the concrete skills you learn in the military, like knocking out a bunker. it's the intangible skills we learn. leadership, overcoming adversity, teamwork, dealing

with ambiguity. that's why i tell employers, hire a veteran. it doesn't matter the skills. hire a veteran. the leadership they have -- >> whatever you got, they faced worse. >> absolutely. >> you have many, many wall street companies -- last thursday, a 19-year-old marine killed in afghanistan. he was seven or eight years of age when we first went into afghanistan. in terms of the issue, in terms of running for the senate, is the war still an issue there? >> it is. we're worried about being in afghanistan indefinitely, but also about it becoming a safe haven. remember, afghanistan and pakistan is where al qaeda planned and launched the 9/11 attacks from. most don't want to see an indefinite in afghanistan, but also not see what's happening in iraq happen in afghanistan happen in a year or two because

we precipitously withdrew, and because we don't have the ability to conduct operations on the border. >> tom, i'm sure, we'll invite mark pryor on so he can have time around the table, too. and i'm sure looking at the ads, he'll say you're extreme, anti-vet with your votes, that medicare and social security are endangered. you've been getting a lot of these attacks. what's your response? >> i would say the only thing that's extreme is casting the decisive vote for obamacare five years ago and standing by it today. you mentioned medicare. arkansasens are seeing their plans -- >> and he still stands by the vote today? >> he does. he defends it. >> aren't you glad you asked? all right. congressman tom cotton, thank you so much. great to have you on the show. >> tom, thank you so much.

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>> back with us on set, we have mike barnicle. he is so grumpy. seriously, it's like the guy on the muppets. the old guy. the old grumpy guy. >> oh, come on. >> oh, man. >> cutie. you look handsome. but when call people moran -- >> steve rattner is here. and steve rattner. but we begin with the latest on that missing malaysia airlines jet. emergency crews are expanding their search for the plane and the 239 people on board. 40 ships and 22 aircraft, including some from the united states, are working as part of the search. officials believe the plane crashed somewhere in the gulf of thailand off the coast of vietnam. among the many theories as to what happened, speculation that an explosion or an hijacking may be responsible for the plane's missing status. over the weekend, interpol confirmed two passengers used stolen passports and malaysian

intelligence officials are investigating the identities of two other passengers on the plane. flight officials are also looking into a recording of the radar, which suggests the plane turned around from its scheduled route to beijing. so a lot of theories here, and a lot of concerns, red flags, in what we know already, that this might be terrorism. >> yeah, you know, steve, what i always tell people that are riding next to me on the plane, when it gets turbulent, listen, we're fine. you get up there. i've seen, you know -- >> highly unusual. >> the movie, where once it beams, you're all right. "say anything." once it starts -- in fact, the numbers are pretty insignificant as far as crashes once you're at a cruising level, especially on a plane of this size. what in the world happened here? >> well, we don't know. look, yes, for a plane like this, a boeing 777, there is almost no precedent for it just falling out of the sky.

landing, takeoff, the crash last summer of the asiana, it was on landing. >> they had to work to crash the plane. >> they had to work to crash that plane. the planes don't generally drop out of the sky. very unusual. >> especially, again, explaining to people at home who might not fly a lot, are scared, especially a boeing of that size with a major airliner, it is -- it's unprecedented for them just to fall out of the sky. turbulence -- turbulence doesn't do it. >> first of all, there probably wasn't any, because it was severe clear as they call it in the aviation world. the closest comparable, the one that has people thinking, is the crash of the air france 747 in 2009. it was an airbus, not a boeing. it was a combination of a minor instrument malfunction and terrible pilot error, and that plane did just fall out of the sky. so it does happen once in a blue moon. >> i was -- this day and age,

though, how could we have no idea where the plane is, gps, transponders, three days in, how could they not find it? >> we haven't invested in infrastructure. i don't mean that as a total joke. we only have radar coverage a couple hundred miles off of land. radar is land-based. there is no satellite radar coverage. the airlines have been reluctant to install the equipment you need for two-way communications for like a plane's location. when you fly across the atlantic and pacific, your pilots are using technology that's 40, 50 years old. the same thing happened -- it took two years to find the wreckage of the air france plane when it crashed off the coast of brazil. >> could it be possible that the plane was off course, that they're looking in the wrong place? >> possible, but unlikely. and the other question people say, well, why wasn't there a distress call? >> why is there no debris? >> well, we found -- they found an oil slick, reports of debris. when you're a pilot, the rule is

aviate, navigate, communicate. in other words, fly the plane first, figure out where you are, and then talk to somebody. if you have some emergency that occurs, it would be normal -- >> okay, but if you're flying a 777, just put yourself in their position, you're a pilot, i mean, how are you not going to be able to communicate -- i understand you go through other things first. but if you had horrible turbulence or if you're dropping from, you know, 40,000 feet, you're going to have time -- somebody in there -- to communicate. unless there's a severe, extreme event, like a bomb. >> a bomb, yeah. >> if you lose both engines and you're gliding down, yeah, you'll have 20 minutes or something like that to communicate. if you have an explosive decompression -- i don't mean necessarily a bomb, but lose cabin pressure suddenly, you'll have six seconds, seven seconds before you lose consciousness. >> that's like the golfer.

>> yes. >> what were you saying about the passport thing -- >> the passport thing is something we've never seen before, in all these crashes, there's never been two mysterious passports that were stolen. and i think that's the one thing that would lead me away from thinking something just happened to this plane. that's something that you just can't quite imagine what it would be. why people would bring down a plane filled with chinese people, why nobody has taken credit for it. why, why? >> by the way, there were reports that from the air they'd spotted a life raft, and a few minutes ago, it was not a life raft, but a piece of coral. so they've really seen nothing they can confirm is even remo remotely related to this airplane. >> the time story yesterday, everybody seizing on the two passports. they talked to one anti-terror expert who said, well, on a plane that size, you're going to find stolen passports on every plane, because, you know, 500,000 were stolen or lost last year, something like that.

>> yeah. one of these guys was -- one of these guys had flight connections to go to colon and one going to frankfurt. if you were going to blow up the plane, why don't you go one way to beijing? >> because you have to have the visa. they both bought it from the same tourist bureau in thailand. >> did they really? >> yeah. we don't know but a lot there. >> interpol is furious, because interpol has a database, and every sort of major air lien would check that database before they let you on the plane, and they didn't do it. >> ever once in a while, a flight like this will crash or disappear, and there are a couple that still bother me. and just now would be -- >> i know where you're going. >> which ones? >> twa. >> the twa -- the twa flight. >> lockerbie? >> no, no, twa flight 800, where

that one supposedly broke up and -- >> no, they know what happened on that flight. what happened on that flight was a fuel tank that was too close to the electrical line, and it blew up. >> i don't believe it. >> okay. >> more news. the results are in. we're moving on to politics now. senator rand paul, he is the favorite from cpac. for the second year in a row, the u.s. senator from kentucky won the conservative conference's annual straw poll. paul finished with 31% of the vote, nearly tripled senator ted cruz's 11%, followed by neurosurgeon ben carson at 9% and new jersey governor chris christie at 8%. if the straw poll is to be believed, senator marco rubio's stock has fallen in a big way. after finishing in second place last year with 23% support, rubio came in seventh this time with around just 6% of the cpac vote. coming off his cpac victory, senator paul looked to differentiate himself from the runner-up.

>> what do you think of ted cruz's practice of confronting the sometimes putting senate republicans as colleagues in tough situations? >> you know, i guess i would just say that everybody has their own style. my style is that i stand for things that i think people don't question whether i stand for principle. but i don't spend a lot of time trying to drag people down. i've been very complimentary of mitt romney. i met him. i think he's a great guy. can we do things different to get the party bigger? there's always ways to get bigger, particularly when we don't win. i don't spend any time trying to criticize others in the party, because i realize the party has to be bigger, not smaller. >> all right. steve rattner tweeting this morning -- >> what's that? >> not very nice. >> i thought it was nice. >> what? >> wow. holy cow. i can't believe mika is wearing that on -- >> no. that's not what that says.

wow. >> is it bad? i think it's nice. i have eyes again. >> you say about mika, why are you tweeting that? >> no, no, i did not -- >> a couple followers. >> what i tweeted was that democrats should be delighted if rand paul getting nominated, because he is just a whack-o bird who doesn't sound like a whack-o bird. >> a whack-o bird in sheep's clothing. >> it's not elitist. >> he's not a whack-o bird. you may disagree with him -- >> a guy who wants to cut 83% of funding from the department of education, wants to abolish hud. >> and hold hillary clinton accountable for her husband's affair. >> not raise the debt ceiling, i don't think so, joe. >> so hillary going to be in the talking points? >> no, i did them all by myself. >> you didn't forward them on to hillary 2016. >> poor elizabeth warren. what's your takeaway from cpac,

willie? >> rand paul, i'm not surprised he won. he won the straw poll. >> his dad always won. >> that's right. i think chris christie, the reception he got, he got rousing ovations when he began and left. chris christie for a moment re-established himself amongst conservatives at least. >> what do you think, mika? >> i think they had a lot of tired messages and the only new message is one you've been saying for six years and that is, i think chris christie touched on it and had a pretty good speech, but that the party has to open up, you know, try and focus on winning and reframe its message to the point where they are open to different types of republicans. but again, like, when you hear something like that, you realize that's what we've been saying around here, you've been leading the charge now for years and they're sort of just beginning to say it now. otherwise, everything they said made me snore. >> they are saying it. and rand paul actually, with all apologies to mr. park avenue

over here, billionaire, he is trying to bring the party to -- you like that? -- a new direction. >> ted cruz said it, too, by the way. >> yeah, by the way, ted cruz. >> that's who it was. >> i've been complimentary of ted cruz and we've moved forward. i think he's trying to expand out and doing it internally. but we're talking about how great he was speaking off the cuff. and speaking off the cuff is a great thing to do if you can do it. but sometimes a word or two gets mangled, i know because i speak off the cuff all the time. >> really? >> boy, he really stepped into it. and i don't think he meant to, with bob dole. when he said bob dole didn't believe in anything. >> yeah. >> basically. and then john mccain said, you know, well, what did he believe in when he left part of himself on a mountaintop in italy? i don't know if ted has followed up by that. i know he didn't mean anything by that.

you have to be careful, when you're poking and prodding at people and asking like you're the only self-righteous guy in the gang. he managed to hit two out of three war heroes. >> did you read his staff's response to that, whoever is -- >> no, no, i didn't. >> basically, it was this is such a peripheral issue we shouldn't even be dealing with it. >> no. >> his statement on bob dole was regarded by a member of his staff as a peripheral issue, or some such word, we shouldn't be even -- >> it's the stuff you clean up and move on. >> he has to clean it up. >> he needs to clean it up. i don't think anybody knows -- he meant that. listen, i write basically the same thing in my book that you win when you elect conservatives ideologically, moderate temperamentally, and no coincidence moderates like gerald ford and bob dole and john mccain and mitt romney a

george h.w. bush, all lost. >> the word conservative can mean many different things. what does it say about a group like cpac, the most popular speaker they had, is a moran, sarah palin. i mean, she -- she received a reception at that group that took the roof off the place, sophomoric, nearly libelist, not amusing. what does it say about that group? >> yeah. >> well, you're just not being nice. >> well, back on the ted cruz kerfuffle. in terms of saying something -- >> you owe her an apology for calling her that. >> no, something more -- when you talk about the people who are real players in this, ted cruz on the bob dole -- >> here's the -- he would be nice -- mike barnicle gets the bus and drives it right off the cliff. >> you should have let me talk, and the bus wouldn't have been driven off the street.

>> go ahead. >> ted cruz should have cleaned that up immediately. it was a dumb thing to say. i say something, we talk off the cuff here on friday, that was ridiculous, and i insulted veterans. and first thing, i went on twitter, made an apology. it didn't make sense. the first thing you do is clean it up. especially if you didn't exactly mean it that way. and ted cruz probably could have found a better example. why can't he say it? just clean it up and move on. don't have your fact say it's peripheral. >> he could apologize for saying that to sarah palin. frightening video out of california where a stage -- who would put all these kids on stage -- packed with high school students collapses. we'll have the details and the video ahead in the morning papers. plus, politico's mike allen explains why big business is taking a hands-off approach to the midterms. first, bill karins with the forecast. >> his wife is taking a

hands-off approach for him. good monday morning. we have a new storm moving across the country. this one will bring significant winter weather to new england, but that may be about it. this one looks warmer. a lot of us would love some of the rain to clean things up. let's talk about today's forecast first. today is just a beautiful day. d.c., what a stretch you had. a great week. especially saturday was nice. a great monday. even philadelphia, too. and then further to the north, a lot of deep snow on the ground. it won't be as warm. that's the problem in northern new england, such a deep snow pack, hard to warm up. this is the seven-day snow total estimate. this isn't the official forecast. but to give you a general idea, there will be snow on the ground from areas of northern ohio through central pennsylvania, southern new england. but the areas are more or less rain to know in the end. once you get north of the mass pike and new york state throughway, albany, mount pellier, maine, bangor, we could be talking a significant snowstorm for you. the timing of it, even from boston, wednesday looks to be a

wintry mess for you, and then getting colder for snow. 25 degrees this time of year for a high during the daylight hours is a very cold day by march standards, and that's what we'll deal with in boston. as far as the rest of the country, doesn't look like the storm will cause too much trouble, with the exception of snow in montana, idaho. you're watching "morning joe."

♪ let's look now at the morning papers. we'll start with the "los angeles times." 6.9 magnitude earthquake shook the west coast last night. the quake took place 50 miles off the coast of eureka and was felt from northern california to oregon. so far, no injuries or major damages have been reported. officials say there is no dam e damage -- danger of a tsunami, either. >> mika, you saw this one. wow! from "usa today," plenty of parents had their cameras rolling during a show, a musical at a california high school on saturday. but instead of capturing the performance, they witnessed a terrifying moment. ♪ >> holy [ bleep ]! get out of the way! >> roughly 250 girls from rosary high school were on stage when

it came crashing down. officials say the platform wasn't built to support that many people. i know football stadiums that weren't built to support that many people. more than two dozen students were injured, none of the injuries are considered life threatening. you're exactly right. why would they put that many people -- >> poor girls. must have been frightening for everyone. they're very lucky it wasn't worse. >> just terrible. "the atlanta journal-constitution" a new blood test could predict who will develop aziemer's in the next two to three years. scientists at georgetown university performed the testing and say they were 90% accurate. the only test currently available are mris and spinal taps. a blood test would be less invasive and more affordable. more than 5 million people in the u.s. are living with alzheimer's. >> from "the washington times" pope francis believes it's time for the catholic church to study same-sex civil unions. on "meet the press," dolan said

some people want to determine why some people support the issue, but stressed the study wasn't an endorsement. >> he didn't come right out and say he was for them. once again, in an extraordinarily sincere, open nuanced way, he said i know that some people in some states have chosen this. we need to think about that and look into it and see the reasons that have driven them. >> and in an interview last week, the pope said marriage is between a man and a woman. but, also, added, quote, we have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety. >> the "wall street journal," hbo go is getting blasted by fans of "true detective" when the online streaming service crashed during the finale. oh, that's not good! fans experienced a spinning circle on a black screen and turned to twitter to express their frustrations. hbo responded saying it experienced overwhelming demand when too many people logged in at the same time. the series averaged 11 million

viewers per week, including people watching on demand and on hbo go. >> all right. mike barnicle, a huge fan. did you see the finale last night? >> no spoilers. no spoilers. >> they both got killed, huh? i never saw that coming. >> that did not happen. >> no, just out of left field. >> stop it, joe. >> one bullet took them both down. >> not both. >> didn't kill both of them? >> incredible tv show. >> the most well written, well conceived, well acted, incredible acting by woody harrelson and matthew mcconaughey in that program. >> the boys may disagree. i hear it's amazing. i hear it's fantastic stuff. have you seen any of it? >> no, i don't have time to watch television. let's go to willie. >> that's why hbo has hbo go. you can watch the entire season, and then at the end, you'll get an error prompt -- >> i started "house of cards." i started "house of cards." >> you sure that wasn't the end

of "sopranos" where it's over, the spinning circle, had you thinking? >> by the way, willie, did you ever see "lost" in. >> no, i still haven't seen that one. >> seriously, willie, and everybody out there, watch "all is lost." >> amazing. >> oh, my god. >> beautiful. >> why that wasn't nominated -- >> it actually makes the whole event that we went to a little bit less -- >> correct. >> -- and the ending was just -- ah, the ending was phenomenal. that's all i have to say. >> let's go to politico. the chief white house correspondent is mike allen. good morning. >> good morning, willie. >> the lead story on politico.com, big biz takes on the tea party, but gently. what do you mean by that? >> yeah, very gently. a lot of republicans are upset about this, willie. we've talked on the show about how business was talking big about taking on the tea party in this election. they were saying that they weren't going to have any more

todd aikens, so they would go into the primaries early, back strong candidates, push out weak candidates. but, willie, that hasn't materialized. there have been a cup. races that business has played big in, but they haven't taken on any incumbent lawmakers who are responsible for gridlock, and there haven't been that many early races where they've put their bets down. willie, there's one stat that says it all. the u.s. chamber of commerce, the biggest voice of business, such a big muscle in the republican party for so long plans to spend about $50 million on these midterms. americans for prosperity, one of the big tea party groups, one of the koch groups, they plan to spend $27 million. just half that. in north carolina by itself. much more than that as a country as a whole. so businesses' voice is getting a smaller market share. >> mike, what do pro-business republicans waiting to hear? why are they sitting on the sideline? there's a quote from a republican donor, businessman,

we need to take the party away from extremists who don't believe in the realities of compromise and negotiation. what are they looking to see before they put their money in? >> yeah, willie, they say this is a huge moment when business needs to push against the gridlock, push against people who are responsible for these shutdowns. but the problem is that these big organizations aren't nimble. at the top, there definitely is religion about this. they definitely understand the need to do this after those embarrassing senate losses last time that could have probably taken the majority and didn't. but these organizations just aren't able to turn, act that quickly. >> politico's mike allen. thanks a lot, mike. a look at today's business headlines coming up. plus, mayor bill de blasio joins the table. we'll get his take on the charter school controversy when "morning joe" comes right back.

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♪ education issues are playing a major role in the opening months of mayor bill de blasio's term, and the new york city democrat joined us on set earlier this morning. >> you are here 11,000 strong! you are braving the cold to stand up for your rights, and this is the most important civic lesson you will learn, because this is democracy and this is how you make your voice heard! [ cheers and applause ] and we are here today to tell you that we stand with you! you are not alone! we will safeguard our schools! [ cheers and applause ] >> okay. charter schools.

let's start at 20,000 feet. are you against charter schools? >> no, never been against charter schools. look, there is so much drama in political life. why don't we go to facts? i've said charter schools are a part of the lineup. by the way, on the pre-k and after-school, we'll work with religious schools. i stood with cardinal dolan, because it will involve catholic and jewish schools, as well. the fact is the whole educational structure, every piece of it matters. i have to worry about 1.1 million kids a year. by the way, only 70,000 of them go to charters, but i care about the 70,000. >> right. 6%. let's stay right there, because if you're not against charter schools, what are the political, or perhaps personal, issues at hand? here's a clip from you last year at a forum hosted by the united federation of teachers talking about a woman who runs the most successful charter schools in new york. take a look. >> times for her to stop having the run of the place.

she has to stop being tolerated, enabled, supported. [ applause ] i have seen her schools have a destructive impact on the schools they're going into. that's the bottom line. [ applause ] whatever is happening in her classrooms -- and i respect if some children are being educated well in her classrooms, what i detect is the notion it's at the expense of the schools she's co- locating into it, and it wouldn't happen if she didn't have a lot of money, power, and political privilege behind her, and if d.o.e. didn't say yes, ma'am every time, and i'll end that as mayor. >> first of all, her schools, the one impacted by your decisions, performing at fifth grade level, highest in the state of new york. in the state of new york. in math, better than bronxville, scarsdale. think about these communities that have resources. and then, her school performing

at the highest level. number one in math. and number two in english. she's head of the success academies. so, you know, given the destructive impact that her schools might have on public schools, which you'll have to explain to me, i just want to know after hearing that sound bite, is it personal, sir? >> by the way, 77% are from low-income households. >> by the way, i have -- >> i think 90% are minority students. >> i have a school system of 1.1 million kids. i think 80-plus-percent are children of colorment we're all working on the same challenge together. look, we are going to accommodate -- there's 194 kids in the school that we did not believe was a smart relocation. we'll find a way to get them to a quality space so the school can go forward. >> what's wrong with this space? >> what's wrong with this space, p.s. 811, the mickey mantle school is in that space. it's a school for special education kids, very severe special education challenges.

if success academy went in, that school would have to be much smaller, we could not reach as many special ed -- >> with all due respect, three facilities are coming online, and those kids would have had a place, so it's a little bit -- >> i'm going to trust my own department of education and say we believe we need to take care of special education kids. this was a facility working for special education kids. we want to reach more, and there's an alternative we can find for success academy. >> doesn't it look like you're targeting her in the campaign? >> one, we approved five success academy schools for c co-locations. we approved 14 charter schools. i think the facts matter a lot here. the bottom line, we have to fix the whole school system, so charters play a role in that. a lot of other things have to happen. the schools on the receiving end matter, too. >> what don't you like about

eva? that seemed awfully personal, that statement -- >> it's quite substantive, actually, and i respect her abilities and some of what she's achieved with kids. what i disagree with is going into an existing school and disrupting what that school is trying to do. that process was not handled right by the previous administration. >> how about the process of shutting down that school, though? you had said that bloomberg did things in a certain way, where he would just, you know, shut down schools willy-nilly, and you made a lot of promises on the campaign trail that, you know, you talked to parents, there would be a vote, you would talk to people affected, but you didn't do that in these three schools, did you? you shut them down -- >> again, let's be clear. we intend to do this right. parents matter deeply in -- i'm a public school parent myself. parents were not consulted, with all due respect to may kwlor bloomberg, and i know you have the respect for him, and i agree with him in some areas, but on

this, i disagree. >> well, he has $23 billion. >> just a second. i want to hear -- >> well, not that much. okay. come on! >> i do not have that much. >> he never gave me any of it, so i don't respect him that much. go ahead. >> the parents that exist in the schools now are stakeholders. they care deeply about the schools. we have to make sure if another school comes in -- not just the charters. other co-locations include the other traditional schools. you can't take away their science lab, take away the gym, eat lunch at 9:00. that's what happens in co-locations, and there is a way to peacefully he co-exist. it needs a new set of rules fair to everyone involved. charters play an important role in the lineup. we have to have a better balance in how we interrelate. >> in terms of followi ining procedure, they will argue you did not. at 10:15 today, they'll have a news conference, success academies and the parents, and

they're going to announce they're going to the board of regents, over your head, to try to get your decision reversed, and if not, they're going to sue because procedure was not followed and they were not consulted. >> if i might, isn't it a little ironic that obviously there are space constraints and tradeoffs and so forth, and then when it comes to raising a little bit of revenue by people at the very top of the income distribution, that's also a no. if we go back to what we were talking about just a few minutes ago, these space constraints wouldn't be so tight. the challenges of special needs students and charter schools wouldn't be so strong if a little bit of money were put into the school system, and when people at the very top of the income distribution are given a free pass or asked for a free pass, that's a problem. >> oh, no, no, no, no. >> and it is a problem when we have -- when we have as of yesterday the new forms issued,

the amount of money that's available for this, it's really significant. so let's put in the resources. >> just to finish on your question, i am being sued, if you will, by left and right. >> right. >> i want that to be clear. >> you are getting it from all sides. >> yes, welcome to the show, as they say. >> yes. >> let me be clear. we were receiving a set of decisions by the bloomberg administration. we have to decide in very little amount of time before the new school year begins in september what to do. we thought of the 45 co-locations that bloomberg proposed, we thought 36 were acceptable. they were good education policy. what did we say no to? schools that would take -- co-locations that would put an elementary school in a high school building. >> you have functioning situations like that in the city. >> we think it's bad policy. >> you think it's bad policy, but you're taking schools that are successful, that are actually quality, and winning in the state and shutting them down -- >> no, we're not shutting them down. we will work with them -- >> you will work with them.

>> we work -- >> well, you didn't call her before, there's a lot of concern about whether or not you want to notify people -- >> again, mika, i have 1.1 million kids and there's a lot going on we have to do to help them. and it starts with pre-k and after care -- >> then let me ask it this way, mr. mayor, with all due respect. your son goes to brooklyn tech. has $13 million endowment. a highly selective school. you're very excited, i'm sure, he goes there. if you found out he wasn't going there next year, wouldn't you want to know what the plan was? do you think you played this out in a way that might not have been effective? >> i think we had to be clearer, and i'm glad we are clear with people now to make sure that school and 194 kids get accommodated. we do need to talk about the 1.1 million kids and how we fix our schools. and with all due respect to folks in the charter movement who i know want to do good, for the 95% of kids who are in traditional public schools that's my first obligation. if we don't get the pre-k done,

we can't fix them. if we don't do better tension retention and teacher training -- by the way, a lot of the discussion on charter schools, i respect it. very little discussion of the teacher retention crisis. >> a lot of progressives don't understand and a lot of people i talked to that are -- >> i agree about teacher retention. >> -- you're doing with pre-k don't understand your position on charters, and quite frankly, don't understand the union's position on charters. in new york city, how many kids in charter? >> 70,000. >> and waiting list is 150,000. it's some of the poorest and most disadvantaged children of color. i agree with you. i mean, for me, charter schools make sense, because they can teach us how to make the entire public school system better. why not expand? why not open the doors, figure out a way to let the 50,000 get

into new charter schools, public charter schools, not private charter schools, so we can actually learn -- i mean, the gates foundation has spent billions of dollars trying to figure out what works and what doesn't work. we can learn from some of the charter schools things that are working. >> and many of the charter schools are not working, by the way. that's why the gates foundation -- >> yeah, exactly. a lot of them aren't working. >> there's no automatic -- >> -- find the ones that are working, and you have one of the schools outperforming scarsdale, bronxville, some of the richest suburbs in america. figure out what they're doing right. >> i agree. we all accept the notion that charters have something to teach us and we want to learn from them. by the way, a lot of traditional public schools are doing well and we want to learn from that, as well here's my appeal to you. i think you're a true patriot, and i mean that to say you talk about education, and everyone around this table does, in terms of the future of this country. we are not positioned properly. >> i agree.

>> and anyone who thinks because we've made minor progress, we should rest on our laurels, that's outrageous. we're fundamentally outpositioned. i say, wait a minute, charters may help in the equation, for sure. if we don't get to the basics, if we don't get early education right, we're kidding ourselves about poor kids and kids of color won't get the chance to make it. if we don't extend the learning day, we're kidding ourselves. teacher retention. find me a front-page article about teacher retention. i can find a thousand on -- >> listen, we'll be happy to do a 20-minute segment on teacher retention. it's paying teachers a salary they can live on. >> paying them, training them, showing them they matter. >> if you looked at how the different schools, including charters who paid their teach everies, you'd have a retention issue. i want to bring it to 20,000 feet for one last second. you and cuomo disagree on paying for pre-k and charter schools. don't you need to work with the governor of the state? will you call for a meeting?

>> hold on, i've been talking to him constantly. this is a friend of 20 years. let's be clear. you can't find an article about teacher retention, or one -- >> bring them here. >> -- cuomo and i are working together on. we're working together constantly. let's be clear. i know he cares deeply about pre-k, to his credit, and there's a way to get this done. i still believe the plan we put forward is the most reliable and effective. we're trying to jolt a broken system. i think we actually have a lot of common ground. the education system is broken. and if you know early childhood education is the single highest impact investment you can make, if this were a business, we'd be around the table saying that's where we get the multiplier effect. let's put our chips there. i've proposed how to do if in a big, bold consistent way. if he has found another way, god bless him, we'll work together. >> that was part of our conversation with mayor bill de blasio. up next, what's driving today's market? brian sullivan has business before the bell. keep it here on "morning joe."

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♪ time now for "business before the bell." brian sullivan joins us. brian, explain what we have to look out for today. we know we closed last week mixed. >> we did, thomas. good morning. happy monday to you. >> happy monday. >> thank you very much. i know the world is watching ukraine and russia, but perhaps the market is watching china a little more. it's not getting a lot of attention given the other news recently.

china's economy is at risk of slowing down pretty dramatically. in fact, had a sharp drop-off in exports last night. the chinese stock market fell more than 3%. when you look at the global economy, china is far more important than russia. so just purely economically speaking, you have to watch china. it's a growing story, one not on the front page right now. >> not on the front pages right now. let's talk about mcdonald's. what have you got on them? the food commodity prices are soaring. zillion two stories here. maybe they're connected. mcdonald's earnings came out, and same-store sales comparable to what they were, fell 1.3% in the united states. tough times continuing at mcdonald's. they're trying out how to get customers back in the doors. the food inflation costs, going up this year. coffee, eggs, hogs, cattle, wheat, corn. all up big. your viewers, your listeners watch out at the store. the prices likely to spike. >> all the staples. brian, thank you.

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