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for four hours after he was last seen on radar and might even have been intentionally diverted. no comfort for the passengers and crew family. >> disappeared off the face of the earth. >> last chance with only three days to go until crimea votes to break away from ukraine, the interim prime minister is marshaling support wherever he can get it. tonight john kerry flies to london for a last ditch meeting with sergei lavrov. >> i don't think anybody can believe a rushed referendum taking place in -- under the imprint of 20,000 plus troops and all that has happened without debate and without opportunity is a genuine referendum. >> desperate search, firefighters are sifting through the rubble after yesterday's deadly explosion leveled two
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buildings in new york city's harlem neighborhood. seven people are now dead. five are still missing. the simple question from pope francis to his followers today on the one year anniversary of his papacy. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington after six long days sill no answer as to why flight 370 vanished without a trace. they will move the "uss kid" to the region. they are redisputing the fact that the plane could have flown as long as four hours.
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tom costello joins me and keir simmons from kuala lumpur. tom, let's go through the wall street journal report and possibilities. what are the theories out there? >> bottom line is that six days after this plane disappeared, we still have no trace of it whatsoever. you'll recall chinese satellite images that came out late yesterday afternoon from the chinese government that showed what they thought might be some debris or wreckage in the sea. the malaysians say they sent their own forces to that area today, air assets, i believe and found nothing whatsoever. the chinese saying they should not have released those images. the wall street journal separately reporting today that the engines were transmitting data as part of what's called an automated burst of data which
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transmits updates on the plane, that they were transmitting updates on the status of the engines for hour hours after the plane disappeared, somewhere over the gulf of thailand. however, today the malaysians came out and definitively knocked that down saying the very last transmission received from the system was at 1:07 a.m. and the plane went off radar at 1:20 or so a.m. so there wasn't even any wiggle room in that. they said that was the last akars transmission period. if this plane did continue flying for about four hours or so that the possibilities are endless. but today the pentagon is moving the "uss kid" into the indian ocean on the possibility that it did fly off into the indian ocean and could have traveled as far as 2500 miles or so before ending and presumably crashing into the indian ocean. there would be no hope for
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survivors, of course, and the question would be if we ever have hope of finding the plane or the black boxes and that would seem remote as well given the vastness of the region and ocean. you can see it is massive. look at the size of the possible distance traveled, it's literally a quarter of the globe. back to you. >> tom, thanks so much for you. keir if the wall street journal theory is correct and if was manipulated and transponder turned off by the hijacker, pilot or passenger or crew member, what do we know about the pie plot and co-pilot? you've been there talking to families. >> reporter: that's right, andrea, we have, we visited the home of the co-pilot today. and we're told by neighbors that he's a nice guy, that he's due to get married and prays in the very nearby mosque so they have
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lots of positive things to say about him. and of course, are hoping that they will see him again. by the way, in terms of what tom is saying, we from here have been trying to contact rolls royce to get definitive -- >> they are the manufacturer -- >> reporter: again and again to get them to tell us of the engine's. they said -- right, so they are the manufacturer of the engines on the plane. it's that division of that company that is said to have data. they haven't responded to our many requests. malaysia airlines, they too we've been asking right through the day to give us information and we asked today at the news conference held here, did you see the plane changing direction in any way?
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he wasn't prepared to answer that and said the radar data is being analyzed. lots of questions without answers and of course the crucial thing here as you rightly point out, there are families waiting for news. we spoke to one father of a 29-year-old today, malaysian man, just absolutely broken and the rest of the family unable to speak to us because they were just too owe motional about it as you can imagine. he said to us, look, my son -- i am resigned to the fact it might be the worst possible news but i just want to know what happened. >> and tom costello, what about the possibility that this will never be resolved, that they will never find the plane? we know the air france plane was eventually found and it took a couple of years to figure out what had happened but that was a lot closer to the coast and much easier to find. >> you know, if this plane -- you almost hate to speculate
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because you could be contradicted by some news development in the next five minutes. if this plane flew into the indian ocean and had a change of four or five hours, i think there is a distinct possibility this plane will never be found. you may get wreckage floating ashore eventually. there are some that should float, a seat cushion, for example, but in terms of finding the wreckage itself and the crucially the black boxes, that would seem really unlikely. there's a distinction between air france and this one. air france they had a pretty good idea where it went down based on the a kars data trans mitsi mi meting back to the maintenance base. if this is accurate in this case, the last known data point at this moment, the last data point still remains south of vietnam. this is not confirmed yet that the plane did in fact do a u-turn and headed out over
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malaysia and indian ocean. >> huge thanks to keir simmons in the middle of the night there in malaysia. for more on this and what it tells us about air traffic and air safety and any possibility of bad intent. by joined by michael lighter, former director of the u.s. national counterterrorism center at the cia. michael, i know we don't have any indication of foul play, but a lot of issues have been raised by the radar by the suspicion of a u-turn by what pinging was heard. how much are officials here at all concerned they haven't seen any charter and no credible claims of responsibility. >> obviously, i think officials in the national security realm are scratching their heads as much as anybody else's. there's that initial flurry of attention to the passports and every caindication it has nothi
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to do with the disappearance. now they are looking at the same mass of uncertainty, did it turn, did it not turn? that leaves them in an uncomfortable position, all of the people on the plane, right now there is still a pure lack of evidence indicating anything in terms of an organized terrorist plot. that doesn't mean one person or the pilot might have done anything but they don't see anything here yet which is indicating some sort of terrorism connection. >> they are obviously doing psychological profiles on the passenger and crews and pilot and co-pilot. anyone who knows how to fly a plane. let me take the wall street journal story one step farther. if in fact there were some effort to take the plane and hide it according to one source in the national security community was an undisclosed location, where on earth could
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you hide a 777 that could be landed without being spotted? >> i've flown on a lot of 777s, i've never flown one. i flew in the navy prior to my counterterrorism career. i find it to be a little fantastic the idea that this aircraft is being hidden somewhere. it just -- although everything is inexplicable at this point, that seems too far from the range of reason. if that turn is right as tom said, it certainly suggests someone knows what's going on and flying that plane and that has officials looking at the pilot and co-pilot for what they could have done. all of the expertise from all of the different areas and intelligence resources being poured into it, people are scratching their heads. >> china had a satellite and saw imagery. we have eyes on this. very quickly the through its partners and own satellites
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would switch the trajectory of various satellites and be combing that area for anything you could see. >> some satellites can't be moved and other priorities we have to watch, but to the extent you can use overhead satellite resources to comb this, it's absolutely being combed. but the fact is, this is a massive area. you could have all of the satellites in the world. it's very difficult to get really good coverage of all of these things. there are other methods that the u.s. has of detecting large scale explosions and the like. no indicators there that there was a explosion -- >> none of the normal sensors that would show up -- >> suggesting to some that there wasn't something mid air or high that may have been detected by these means. >> this is one of the most extraordinary cases i've ever seen. i cannot recall another instance where we simply did not know where the plane had disappeared six days out. thank you very much. >> good to be here. >> rescue crews are continuing
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i don't think there's much doubt given the circumstances what the vote is going to be. nobody doubts that. the question mark is is russia prepared to find a way to
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negotiate with ukraine, with the contact group and other countries involved in order to be able to resolve this in a way that respects their legitimate interest and they have legitimate interests, but respects them in a way that doesn't violate international law and isn't at the butt of a rifle of massive military imprint. >> at that hearing today secretary kerry also told the committee he had spoken separately today to russia's foreign minister lavrov now meeting with vladimir putin in sochi and warning them the u.s. will respond monday with sanctions if the referendum is held on sunday. kerry is headed to london tonight and talked separately to europeans. joining me now is nick burns, former ambassador to nato, now at harvard's kennedy school and ann gearan, traveling companion on all of these trips with kerry. nick, first to you, i was interested in your op-ed as to what the administration should
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do. in talking to others, some who say the tough talk about sanctions don't work with putin and maybe what we should do is quiet it down and send an experienced diplomat, perhaps you or tom pickering or someone who lavrov knows and respects, what do we need to do to resolve this? long term you don't want the economic effects that are going to come on your door step if this proceeds. >> well, andrea, i think what secretary kerry is doing and president obama makes a lot of sense. they are trying to get the russians to deal with ukrainian government. the russians have been boycotting, talking to the interim government figure. and they want to get them together. the two countries have to live next door to each other forever more. secretary kerry is making this last minute trip to try to talk lavrov into it. but the russians will go ahead with the crimean referendum.
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you do drive up the cost to putin with the sanctions. the big question there, will the europeans and americans be together? i think the u.s. wants to send a strong message and the east europeans support the u.s. but i wonder about the germans who are so hooked on natural gas from russia. you wonder how strong they are going to be. >> to that point, to both of you, and ann, german officials are telling us angela merkel has lost patience with this, please, vladimir -- >> she's looking more ready than a week ago. it's still an open question, how many of the western european nations as ambassador burns said have heavy reliance on natural gas, much of which comes through
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ukraine. and what they are looking for here is a way for russia to maybe go halfcies on this and to yes, they have the referendum and yes there's a vote that clearly endorses annexation by russia. kerry started to refer to this a little bit in his testimony yesterday. you heard president obama say something that alluded to it and kerry again today. that's clearly the hope, that there's still a little diplomatic middle ground they can figure out. >> nick, you've resolved so many of these crises yourselves, there are ways to paper things off and save face. what the president was suggesting in his meeting yesterday was to let russia say, well, let's have that may vote that's already scheduled. and that will be the official vote, rather than this trumped up referendum, which doesn't even permit voting no against l
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annexation. where you're still part of the russia large reach. >> you're likely to see a boycott by many of the crimean tatars of that sunday referendum. it won't be valid. the president already said it's illegal under international law. i think it's smart for the president and secretary kerry to try to get the russians to talk to uk craukrainians, we'll see referendum go forward. i don't know about annexation or not but point has been made, putin invaded another country and there's going to be a response. the response will be in sanctions. you've seen a big response to strengthen the ukrainian government with $16 billion in aid from the west, almost all of it from the european union, some from the u.s. what also has to happen, we need to reach out to nato allies and build up conventional defenses and the administration is doing
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that, sending f-16s to poland and f-15s to lithuania to say to putin, there is a line you can't cross. the president needs to lead that and convene a meeting of the nato heads of government when he's in europe and really rally nato to support the eastern european matters. >> should we start giving georgia the path towards nato membership? >> that's one possibility here. it would be really a furthering of the u.s./russia split that at this point the obama administration hopes to avoid. they hope it stops here. if it doesn't stop here, sure, you can really go putin just to the ends of the earth by saying, great, georgia want in who knows how long and it would be problematic and open the door to other potential nato membership
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the refugee camp where we find miriam is isolated and bitterly cold and conditions deplorable. it's the worst i've seen. she shares a small tent with her family, now five children, including the baby boy born yesterday. >> it's a mud floor and it's wet. there's no insulation, it's just plastic and this is how people are living in between their homeland and the country that is housing them that they are still not citizens. her husband takes us inside where we find miriam lying on a thin damp mattress. lying next to her is her newborn. she describes feeling cold, exhausted and just laue lousy, her husband brought medicine prescribed by one of the doctors. this is so muddy with no drainage and yept the person who owns the land is charging them $400 a year to be here. that doesn't sound like a lot of money but when you have none,
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it's an as electastronomical pr. in this ongoing crisis, children's lives are on the line. >> that of course was dr. nancy snyderman reporting on the heartbreaking circumstances faced by so many refugees. 2 million syrians have been forced out of the homeland, 60,000 refugees have gone to the eu, most to germany and most of all to sweden. is that enough? i'm join by the swedish ambassador to the united states and mark brzezinski. -- it's a privilege to have you here. your country has been hospitalable to iraqi refugees and syrian refugees. what solution is for temporary camps and a war that is without end? >> we need to do what we can to
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try to alleviate the suffering from the people in syria and try to help out by coming up with humanitarian support and putting in quite a lot of funding there in that regard to national agencies, u.n. and so on and so forth. push for a political process is very important as well. what we can do in that respect, the geneva talks, although they are very difficult. as far as refugees, we have received 35,000 of them in sweden. i think the biggest number in any eu country and it shrinks in comparison to what they are doing in the region. we have to do our bit. >> it has been overwhelming in lebanon and jordan and also turkey. mark, i should call you ambassador, but we've known each other for a while. >> that's true. >> the fact is that secretary kerry testified to the senate that the crisis in ukraine, the growing crisis, the rift between the united states and russia is
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severely complicating our relationship with any kind of diplomatic solution. >> we have a number of conversations going on with the russians as they pertain to ukraine, syria, north korea and we have a collective self-interest, us and the russians in these turning out well. regression and melting down in any of those crises harms russia as much as it does us. when it comes to working with our european partners, i go to the humanitarian assistance question that you put to bjorn here when it comes to refugees and i feel the swedes has been extremely generous and financial assistance, material assistance. but there are large numbers, thousands of people that need to go elsewhere and traveled far and the fact the swedes on their
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door is something we appreciate. >> the europeans have big energy need which is supplied by russia. how tough will the europeans be on monday? secretary kerry told the senate today the europeans will be with us, we will act monday morning because if it takes place it will be a sham vote. there's a lot of keconcern that some will not stand firm against vladimir putin. >> this is a real crisis, huge crisis for us, for the world, global crisis, of course what we see is completely unacceptable as far as russian aggression against ukraine. i know there's been efforts to try to get a dialogue going with the russians and get the ukrainian government to talk to them. they are not interested in that at all. in the absence of that kind of conversation, that needs to be there in order to deescalate, i would rather use the word deoccupy ukraine and crimea. there has to be firm reactions and that's what we are expecting on monday.
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there has to be visa bans and these type things and further possibilities in case the russians are not moving back. >> what are you and your syrian -- your swedish colleague doing here about combatting poverty in general? >> absolutely. let me say on ukraine if i can briefly, my colleague, the u.s. ambassador described it as a revolution of dignity. >> where the revolution took place. >> precisely. and that's something that is incouple bent on us to support by supporting ukraine like we've seen the last couple of days with a loan assistance package and hopefully with the foreign affairs council meeting that produces asset freezes and other forms of sanctions. but then ultimately an off ramp for russia to begin to head in the direction that the
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international community is, which is that it would be good. it would be good if russia's neighbors feared it less and good for russia if that were happening because it would be closer to europe and international community and that is something that is in the self-interest of russia as well. when it comes to the fight against poverty, sweden is america's number one development assistance partner in the world now. and we're taking -- >> that's pretty amazing. >> when you think about the size of sweden. >> sweden is 9 million people, like the size of the state of virginia, they committed $1.2 billion in development assistance to afghanistan. i have to note that yesterday a swedish journalist was killed in afghanistan as you know, and among a number of people who have risked their lives and given their lives from america, from sweden and elsewhere, to kind of fight for what's right and clarify the situation in afghanistan. but we are joined in this effort
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to provide overseas development assistance in afghanistan, the horn of africa and elsewhere. >> we talk about $36 billion a year together where we're doing and it's quite a lot. we're also looking at new solutions on how we can actually get this work done efficiently. you know, bright new ideas on how to address poverty in africa, with brand-new ideas, that's something we really have done. >> i have to report to you, one of the things i'm proudest of to have witnessed is the signing between usaid and volvo trucks a. swedish company on john training programs in africa. this is not development assistance in europe, it is tri lateral coordination on job training in sub saharan africa. we're working on together. >> terrific solutions based news from two ambassadors and
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partners. thank you very much. >> glad to be here, thank you. to inside the war torn capital of damascus, dr. nancy snyderman and bill neely have been heading light on the amount of need the children face now and in the future. these drawings illustrate hope. art and music therapy are being provided by the beyond association, a unicef partner. they draw that they would like the camp to look like. way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and a good source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips.
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the senate foreign relss committee has moved an aid package and there are still big hurdles ahead, tennessee senator bob corker is the ranking member on foreign relations and joins me now.
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thanks so much, senator. i know the house mapassed a different version. how will you reconcile this because ukraine needs to see the support and vladimir putin needs to see american support for ukraine? >> the package we passed out yesterday is a really strong package that not only has if in what the house has already passed relative to loan guarantees but has sanctions, the first of a kind we've put in place before and that is sanctions against economic extortion and think about turning up gas to try to influence things. but also corruption. so it's a very strong package and as you know it also has the imf reforms in it. if there's any model for why we need the imf to be healthy and functioning it's ukraine right now where they are the only entity that probably has the levers to move them along in the appropriate way. i was with the prime minister last night here. he fully understands how strong
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this package is. that has come out of the foreign relations committee. and look, before they can actually take any of this economic aid anyway, they have to sign up with the imf, there's still things he has to do to make that happen. we're much better off in my opinion passing a really strong package and taking the amount of time it takes to do that. and i think he agrees. so i don't think there's anything -- i think we're moving along in an appropriate pace. what we've now done and seen happen in europe, andrea, they are coalescing around very strong sanctions. i think our leadership here in pushing that and certainly what the administration has done unilaterally, i think those things have come together to really stiffen the european resolve and their ability to put in place sanctions themself which are more important in some cases than our own.
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>> this fire fight with john brennan, the cia director, you haven't seen the documentation back and forth but cannot be good for the united states or administration or for the senate to have a really toxic relationship between the intelligence community and the senate. >> it's not good. and you're right, andrea, i'm not on the committee and haven't seen some of the documents that are in question. it really seems to me though to be registering between the democrat -- the -- the democratic side of the senate intelligence committee and the administration's appointee. i don't think the republican side has yet weighed in and they are really waiting to hear both sides of the story -- >> john mccain and lindsay graham have weighed in but not
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the senate intelligence leader. >> yeah. so i still want to understand fully what has happened there and the accusations both ways are obviously very strong accusations. we do need to understand but at this point i think there's still more water to go under the bridge, if you will. >> how important is it do you think it is for the senate to produce the report after five years after what happened in the dark days of acknowledged wrong doing by our intelligence leaders and others in the previous administration in interrogations to tension and water boarding which was torture? >> i think it's always important for, you know, the senate and house to do appropriate oversight and understand what has happened. so you know, that's part of us doing our job. it's always important for us to understand and to figure outweighs of making sure that if things have gone wrong, they don't happen again. >> it's so good to see you,
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this one. >> if you have insurance that you like, you will be able to keep that insurance. if you've got a doctor that you like, you will be able to keep your doctor. nobody is talking about reducing medicare benefits. >> we know that's not true because for the second year in a row, the obama administration has proposed deep rate cuts to the medicare advantage seniors rely on. call representative kirkpatrick and tell her to fight the president's april 7th medicare advantage cuts. >> democratic congresswoman ann kirkpatrick joins me from the hill. we saw this week in florida how important this issue can be and the fact that seniors are very concerned and democrats are not turning out in sufficient numbers. how concerned are you about your re-election? >> well, first of all, we know that special elections are not really good predictors of the future. we saw that recently in 2006 and 2010. what strikes me most, andrea, is the difference between that
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florida district and my district in arizona. as you mentioned, i have a huge district, over half of the state and it's extremely diverse. i have 12 stribs and 25% native american, 20% hispanic. and the 2010 census told us 61% of the people in my district are either on programs like medicaid or they are uncovered. so remember in the affordable care act we had the reauthorization of the indian health services act. and that is something the tribed had fought for for a very long time. there's overwhelming support among the tribal communities to start with for the affordable care act. >> now, at this point how do you strat guys? do you run away from it? clearly you're not. how do you position yourself with a president whose popularity is down to 41% in our latest poll.
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>> i've always done what's right for my district. so i stand for it. it's the right thing for my district. but we've said all along, it's not perfect and we still need to focus on working and making it better. that's really where the emphasis should be. >> how frustrating is it for you that the white house campaigned on this then lost the midterms and lost the control of the house over this issue and then did such a bad rollout and has had to retreat time and time again on these fixes and delaying implementation and delaying penalties? >> well, for the people in my district who either have some kind of medicaid coverage, the announcement of the expansion of medicaid is huge. so this is a district where we still have high unemployment. my work is centered around jobs and building a diversified stable economy in my district. these are folks who have been without insurance for a long time.
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right after the bill went into effect, we're hearing from college students who found out they could stay on their parent's plan until they are 21. people who never had coverage because they had preexisting conditions, getting coverage. so it's been an incremental process of getting the good word out about it. and getting people the coverage they deserve. >> with jan brewer, the governor now term limited and unable to fight for another term, how does the top of the ticket affect you at all in terms of what's going to happen in the governor's race? >> remember our governor fought for the expansion of medicaid and arizona against the wishes of the speaker of the house who's one of my opponents who right now is trying to repeal medicaid in arizona. it shows how out of touch he is with our district and he's also the speaker who pushed through the discriminatory bill last couple of weeks ago, 1062. but anyway, back to leadership in arizona, arizona is a warm
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welcoming state. the governor did the right thing in pushing the medicaid expansion. she did the right thing in vetoing the discriminatory bill 1062. >> well, thank you very much. good luck in the race. we don't know yet who your actual opponent is going to be because of the republican primary but we'll be tracking it. thanks again. >> we'll be right back. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ]
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general motors is facing tough questions today in the wake of the massive recall due to a faulty ignition switch. the car maker says it knew about the problem as early as 2001, three years earlier than gm had previously reported to federal safety regulators. last month gm recalled more than 1.5 million older model compact car s including the cobalt and g-5, the issue is a heavy key chain or knock by the knee could cause the ignition to shut off
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immediately and making brakes less effective and disarming air bags. it is linked to 12 deaths so far. the company could face criminal charges for reporting to promptly bring problems. >> the uss kidd is saying that new information that the military believes -- reports it is heading to the strait of malacca to search for the missing airliner. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow, elijah cummings, we'll talk about the dust-up with issa a karen bass as well. "ronan farrow daily" is up next. . her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... ...and a choice take 6 tylenol in a day which is 2 aleve for... ...all day relief. hmm. [bell ring]
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daily", hang on to your remotes, we have 'lot on today's show, a new mystery surrounding flight 370. did it fly for hours before it dropped from the radar? also president obama is about to make a big announcement and it relates to a quiet power he is wielding with profound impact. we have inside scoop from the man who ran that power for him. also, a pope panel, we've got priests on a panel getting popy. first's today's headlines. >> there are new developments in the hunt for malaysia air flight 370. >> the dates at a transmitted by the plane's engine suggest the plane kept flying four hours after it went off radar. >> is the president going to stagnate? can he recover? >> there's no doubt it is a difficult environment. >> president obama will direct the department of labor to require overtime pay to millions of workers. >> now to idaho where the
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governor has now signed a bill that will allow guns on college campuses. >> when may i shoot the student? it's proprovocative. >> it's serious. >> it's been a year since pope francis was elected. >> saying the catholic church spent too many time focusing on social issues. >> nothing could be further from the truth. >> if the cia wasn't purposefully destroying evidence, what happened to the files? >> first denied an interference and blamed it on the i.t. guys. >> nerds! nerds! >> all right, we are going to bring you the latest tant liesing revelations on the missing plane in just a moment. in less t