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>> now to idaho where the governor has now signed a bill that will allow guns on college campuses. >> when may i shoot the student? it's proprovocative. >> it's serious. >> it's been a year since pope francis was elected. >> saying the catholic church spent too many time focusing on social issues. >> nothing could be further from the truth. >> if the cia wasn't purposefully destroying evidence, what happened to the files? >> first denied an interference and blamed it on the i.t. guys. >> nerds! nerds! >> all right, we are going to bring you the latest tant liesing revelations on the missing plane in just a moment. in less than an hour the
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president is scheduled to make a big announcement that gets at the heart of his income inequality and involves a important power he is using to make change, at a time when so many are calling the system broken. that quiet power, of course is regulation. it may not sound sexy, but president obama is using it to profoundly reshape this country. today he's using regulation to make a change anyone who cares about economic inequality should understand. let's break it down. he's about to order the labor department to expand the number of people who are guaranteed overtime pay. why is that so important? it could shift billions of dollars into the pockets of fast food workers and loan officers and computer technicians and others who many businesses avoid paying overtime. or if you ask the critics, it could place a big extra burden on businesses during a time of economic hardship. legally, workers are already
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required of course to get paid extra for their extra hours. but there's an exception for quote executive or professional employees. that's the problem. exactly what executive or professional gets defined by the labor department. that definition is often woefully out of date. currently the protection of guaranteed overtime only applies to workers who make $455 or less per week. that's about $23,000 a year. you make a dime over that you could be classified as an executive and out of luck. ask the next fast food worker whether they consider themselves an executive? president obama could change it with an updated regulation on overtime pay. we'll talk to the regulator in chief, a man glenn beck described as the most dangerous man in america? he is president obama's regulatory czar and oversaw the laws making a difference reshaping our country and professor at harvard of author.
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professor, let's talk about regulation, at large. why is this such an important power and what do you say to critic who's say he has gone regulation happy? >> it's really important because congress writes laws and gives the executive the authority to interpret them to explain what they mean. it kind of makes sense because clean air requires scientific and technical judgments. there are changes in the economy. you want to update depending on what the economy looks like. the idea that the president has gone regulation happy is rhetoric and not reality. the bush administration was not thought to be regulation crazy and the obama administration has issued fewer in his first four years, that's political rhetoric and not capturing what's actually happening. >> and let's talk about this
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specific regulation own overtime pay, how significant could this be? >> it could be a really big deal. there are a lot of people in the united states working 50 hours, 60 hours a week being classified as executive or administrative or professional workers and that means they don't get the protection. they are really not able to feed their families and close to the poverty line. millions of people could be helped to have extra cash for their kids. >> what do you say to critics who say this places too big a burden on biss businesses who have to foot the bill in a time of tough economic hardship? >> the amount is at electrofeed overtime, it's way lower than it was, who is getting entitled. under the bush administration they put a $450 threshold in, $560 in today's money. the ford administration had it around 250, which is over 900 tsds in today's money. what we're trying to do in rethinking this is to modernize it and keep it on pace with
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inflation and other economic circumstances. businesses have a lot of flexibility. if they want they can raise people's pay and get to the new threshold assuming there is one. then they wouldn't have to do it or hire new workers and not pay overtime. this isn't exactly draconian regulation we're discussing. >> what do you think president obama's legacy is going to be based on all of these rules that he changed often through you in that capacity? >> the legacy is huge net benefits that children and adults and seniors will be enjoying for a long, long time. one thing that has been very quiet, exercise of power is eliminating rules that impose costs on businesses and hasn't got a lot of attention, millions of dollars tore small companies and big ones too. they are getting savings on appliances like refreng raters and clothe washers and cars which are fuel efficient now. there are a lot of lives being saved and so forth. the legacy is one that will not
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be a lead in the chapter in history books but people will be healthier and live longer and have more money as a result. >> you make a good point there are savings for businesses by stream lining. >> absolutely. that's been a real premium, economically hard time to stream line and prune rules that don't make so much sense but to clarify them. one thing in tld's announcement that is a kind of sleeper point, there's a lot of uncertainty about who gets overtime, that's not good for workers and not good for businesses and particularly not good for small businesses. should expect a lot of clarity coming in the next period. >> thank you so much, sir, really appreciate your joining us. >> let's look at the other side. not everybody is ee namerred of the president's way of changing the country. john boehner was quick to criticize this announcement coming today. >> there's all kinds of rumors of what the president may or may not do in terms of overtime pay and reclassifying some jobs for
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overtime. if you don't have a job, you don't qualify for overtime? so what do you get out of it? you get nothing. the president's policies are making it difficult for employers to expand employment. until the president's policies get out of the way, employers are going to continue to sit on her hands. >> and continue to sit on their hands for republican reperspective i want to turn to michael steele, msnbc contributor, always a pleasure. >> good to be with you, man. >> do you think this expansion of overtime pay asks too many of businesses in this economically trying time? >> i don't know if businesses can be consulted or been part of the conversation or if this is an act of the president. it's hard to say. at the end of the day businesses have to adapt. and speaker boehner hits it out of the park. if i'm looking at balancing how i'm going to hire more people and now i've got the president saying that there's a new
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threshold for requiring me to pay overtime to workers i currently have, i'm going to make a financial decision. i think i can either increase your pay or i can hire someone and reduce hours, but there's so much more that goes into that than just doing it. and i thnk a lot of what the president often does doesn't take into effect the residual outbound effect of the policy or executive order. and how people have to put it into practical practice once it's executed. we'll see how businesses respond to this. i don't think it will be as clean as they think it will be or hope it will be because businesses are still tight. there's a lot of money they are not putting in the economy for a reason. this administration doesn't seem to want to address that first. >> but couldn't giving all of those people who do already have jobs a little more money in their pockets actually stimulate the economy? >> maybe. that depends. it depends. you're assuming they are going
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to take that extra whatever amount it is and put it back into the economy. they are living from paycheck to paycheck in many instances so they are likely going to pay bills right in front of them and to the extent there's anything left over, they are going to probably try to save as much of that as they can. again, with the employment market being what it is, they don't know if their job is next on the block when that employer decides i can no longer afford to do it this way. there are a lot of pieces here that need to be taken into consideration besides just we want to require employers now to pay more to their employees by expanding the -- the overtime pay. a lot of what this president has done with respect to jobs in my estimates has not been so much about creating jobs but putting very, very small bandaids on bigger problems that only exacerbate the issue. i think that's what john boehner is getting at. >> what is the alternative? what do they think it will take
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to bring down this terrible poverty problem that i think is absolutely related to the lack of overtime in some of these cases? >> i don't think the poverty issue is related to a lack of overtime. i think the poverty issue is related to stagnant wages and related -- that's just regular time. before you even get to overtime. it's related to the ability of employers to actually expand the market in which the formerly employed can get back to work. you still have over 5 million people who are let go in 2008 and 2009 still unemployed. so in addition to that employment market expanding because people are graduating and thinking they are going to have a job in this market, people are at the point they want to transition to other jobs. there are all of these variables out there that voters -- that supporters of wage expansion and opportunity are looking at. let's look at the tax revenues and the incentives that
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businesses have to expand. let's look at the cost businesses have to face. and i think regulatory measures are an important aspect of that but you can't do it just as a one-off. we're going to raise the price for overtime and think that's going to be the fix. it's much more holistic thwholi that, i think. >> that leads us to the subject of today's battle. do you think boosting overtime pay will help or hurt businesses in the long term? you heard two sides of the story. weigh in with yours by choosing one of two hashtags, ot help or rfd ot hurt. we'll share your responses throughout the show. interesting to see how it comes out, there are two valid per spektdives here. clearly what the president is doing is important and he's using regulation in a pretty powerful way. we'll continue to watch that. coming up, the mystery is deepening in the search for the malaysian airliner that
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disappeared without a trace. >> tracked the plane making a slight jaunt to the right as it followed its normal flight path. then nothing, no turn, no radar contact, no transponder, no radio. >> we've got the new angle in the story that everybody is talking about and also later as pope francis marks the first anniversary of his papacy, we'll dive into how he's revolutionizing the catholic church. [ male announcer ] they say he was born to help people clean. but there are some places even mr. clean doesn't want to lug a whole bunch of cleaning supplies. that's why he created the magic eraser extra power. just one eraser's versatile enough to clean all kinds of different surfaces and three times more grime per swipe. so instead of fussing with rags and buckets, you can get back to the great outdoors, which can be pretty great. that's why when it comes to clean, there's only one mr. [ bird screeches ]
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time ago following a deadly accident at the south by southwest festival. two people were killed and dozens injured after a suspected drunk driver slammed into a crowd of festival goers. the driver was trying to escape from a dui check when he plowed into a crowd of pedestrians and collidedwide a taxi and cyclist. police are not releasing the suspect's name but he's expected to be charged with two counts of murder and 23 counts of aggravated assault. we're following developing news unfolding in new york city, seven people are confirmed to have died in the explosion in east harlem. more than 40 people were treated for related injuries from the explosion. five remain missing. mayor bill de blasio held a news conference last hour. >> we're continuing rescue operations hoping to find others still alive. let me caution to everyone here, everyone watching at home that these rescue operations will
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continue for an open ended period of time. >> mayor de blasio met with some of the hundreds of new york city firefighters working at the scene. vergts are looking into whether a water main could have caused the sinkhole that in turn ruptured the gas line and caused the explosion. new information this hour on the mystery surrounding the missing malaysian air jet. the u.s. navy dispatched the "uss kidd to flight for 370. so far the search efforts have yielded nothing but a new report in the wall street journal report is yielding a fresh round of intrigue. it suggests the plane may have been in the air for hours after it dropped from radar, traveling as many as 22,000 miles in the opposite direction. u.s. counter terrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it towards an undisclosed location after
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intentionally turning off the jetliner as transponders to avoid radar detection. >> those reports are inaccurate. the last transmission from the aircraft was at 0107 which indicates that everything was normal. >> the search has resulted in one notable thing, rare scrutiny for a government that has for all purposes fumbled its handling of this disaster on the world stage. joining me to hash this all out is jim tillman, an aviation expert and former american airlines pilot. thanks for joining me, jim. >> my pleasure. >> let's begin with the new wall street journal report, do you think it was possible to travel undetected for that many hours and then simply vanish? >> yes. >> how do you think that's the case? would someone have to actively turn off the transponder from within the cockpit? >> well it sounds like the transponders were off. subsequent to that if the crew
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elected to do so, they could fly what we call map of the earth and bring that airplane down to just a few hundred feet off the deck. and it would be very difficult for most radars to pick him up. the further he got from the prad ar antenna, the more difficult it would be for them to track him. is it possible? yes. but that's just the question, is it possible. to answer that, yes. >> we learned the "uss kidd" is heading to the indian ocean. what type of cooperation is likely going on between the countries, u.s. and malaysia, when it comes to finding this airplane? >> i hope a lot of cooperation is going on. i was concerned in the very givening when you have ten nations involved and all of them are not necessarily good friends of the other. and all of them don't have great communications to have been carrying on for some time in cooperation. i was hoping that this incident would have as one of the few
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blessings, a chance for an international body to really get involved together and understand and speak to each other. but i'm not sure that it's working out quite that way. >> and how much of the blame for that do you put at the feet of the malaysian government? in their opinion have they fumbled this investigation? >> you're being kind when you say they fumbled the investigation. they have really just -- they've reacted very badly in terms of having an organization that had one voice and could speak with authority and integrity and to be honest and open with what they know and what they don't know and to pass it on in a way that shows some compassion for those people that had loved ones on that airplane. so i -- i'm not at all pleased with the malaysian government and the way of handling this. i wish somehow they could get somebody out of the malaysian government or one of the other governments to say okay, i'm in charge. here's what the deal is.
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i'll keep you involved in this as much as we can but we're not going to give you just garbage. >> it's an important point in a lot of ways. it reveals that developing countries around the world do have a lot of challenges that we think are already surmounted here in the developed world with respect to air travel and security. that was jim tillman, thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> just ahead a big story we've all right been following and we're going to keep track of more following news out of idaho. should guns be allowed on college campuses? >> people are going to carry whether you restrict them or not. >> when you're defending yourself, you are reacting to an attack. why not try to level the playing field as much as possible? >> why some students aren't just packing books, they are packing heat. it's when we come back. ♪ [ male announcer ] how did edward jones become one of the biggest
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welcome back. this week governor cl butch ot or may them the state to allow guns on college campuses. to carry concealed weapons in many parts of campuses and it has sparked a heated debate in idaho. the reach issue may be how legislators shut out colleges that are most affected by this bill. it was opposed by all presidents of idaho's eight public colleges and universities who argued it would put those on campus at risk and require extra safety measures costing hundreds and nows of dollars. the question they and many students who fear for safety are asking, why can't schools decide for themselves? joining us now is lori haas who co-wrote a letter asking him to veto the bill. her daughter emily survived after being shot twice during the virginia tech massacre.
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thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> your letter said adding more people with guns on campus would only make the situation more dangerous. can you explain your logic on that? >> well, we know in certain situations like active shooter ones, responders, first responders need to understand who the good guy is and bad guy is. we do not need to introduce more firearms into dangerous situations. we can rely on law enforcement to do the job and more weaponry just causes confusion. 'they saw in the tucson arizona shooting admittedly by a concealed holder out there. >> the logic from people defending this bill, although you make a good point about law enforcement, this allows an expanded law enforcement capacity and would apply to former law enforcement officials no longer wearing to badge and people with expired permit that's have been vetted and
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authorized. what do you say to those supporters? >> i think it's a fallacy that someone without any training or very little training will know what to do in an active shooter situation. law enforcement in those persons that we task with protecting our citizens and our neighborhoods and community train for hundreds of hours to learn how to savely carry a lethal weapon in public. they use judgment and muscle memory and much, much training that goes behind those persons wearing a badge and carrying a firearm in public. concealed weapon holders may have a few hours at the range. i would suggest they are not trained to deal with dangerous situations and i think we need to rely on law enforcement. campus police do a good job. college campuses are safe and they continue to be one of the safest places for that age group in america. it's not just necessary.
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i think the governor was ka pit lating to a small group of people that wanted a mere convenience to be able to carry a firearm. i think this is detrimental to the safety of those students, staff and faculty in idaho. >> did you receive response from governor otter? >> sadly no, i did not. i think he has a narrow focus with regard to this to ignore all eight universities and public colleges in idaho. they are the experts about what they need and don't need on their campuses. they can rely on the policies and regulations they have in place to keep their students safe. and there are safe places now. we do not need to introduce firearms into college campuses. the university system may suffer. maybe they'll lose faculty or bright students, that don't want to attends college there. >> thank you very much. how is your daughter emily
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doing? >> she's doing well, thank you for asking. >> i appreciate your joining us with your story. it is obviously every parent's nightmare and your speaking out on this gives us an important take on this issue. >> thank you. >> all right, up next -- he has credited with modernizing the catholic church, but one year after pope francis took office, has enough progress been made on social issues such as same-sex marriage and birth control? our panel will weigh in next and they are priests with an inside take you will not want to miss.
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culture in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and culture of work. so there's a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. >> a lot of people had a lot of problems with that comment. representative barbara lee accused ryan of launching a thinly veiled racial attack. ryan defended himself saying, quote, it is clear i was inarticulate about the point i was trying to make. i was not implicating the culture of one community but society as a whole. it's apt his remarks come it time when the devastation of poverty is visible around the country. here in new york city, for instance, the coalition for homeless released a study that found the homeless population ballooned to a record high of 53,000, up 8% from last year. this is an epidemic and numbers on how lazy people are, to have used the words from that quote,
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may surprise you, actually. in new york, for instance, one in four homeless individuals actually hold jobs. so this is an important story and we're going to be tracking it and bringing you more in the coming days and weeks and look at exactly how much culture and laziness is at fault and homelessness and poverty. clearly it's something that matters in all of our communities. now, another facet of the fight against poverty. we look at the man who may be the biggest voice on poverty in the world, today marks the one year anniversary of pope francis' election as the head of the roman catholic church. according to the nbc news/wall street journal poll, he has a 55% favorable rating and even has his own fan magazine, hit italian newsstands offering a glossy center fold and peepz into his personal life.
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pope francis has stressed humility and austerity, a far cry from the predecessors. and he's translating all of that into a policy agenda. he has criticized the idol tri of money. he's meeting with president obama later at the vatican and has gone to slums where he used terms like social justice and economic inequality. but the church is still in a divisive position, social policies fly in the hiv rates and significant catholic populations demands attention that some say the church is failing to provide. father bill daly at noter dame law school and thomas morefellow and father john banbrick, served as national advocate for victims of sexual abuse.
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thank you so much, fathers for joining us. >> thank you. >> i'll start with you father daily. as i said you have been an advocate on a lot of issues i touched on. i want to touch on the health issues, particularly with this growing population in the developing world. 158 million court and juatholic. we see public health challenges 23.5 million people living with aids yet the church does still ban contraception in those places. is that costing lives? >> the catholic church cooperated -- let's take the example of uganda with a government effort called abc, in line with church teaching for the most part because the a part was to abstain, that sexuality is proper to marriage and to family. b, be faithful within marriage and c, use a gone done.
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that was the government's approach. it's true that we wouldn't agree with every secular viewpoint on how to deal with population issue, but it's not the case that the church has been indifferent to it or hasn't been a part of successful parts. uganda deals with aids and with population issue and that was with the cooperation of the church. being engaged in the dialogue doesn't mean agreeing with everyone but being part of the dialogue is how we are not indifferent too and show our love to the people in these places that face so much social challenges. >> i will push back slightly and say, i've had conversations with these people in african catholic majority countries where there's still a principle of ab stinance and in the midst of epidemics. you don't think it's irresponsible that there's not more leeway on that doctrine? >> i don't think it's
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irresponsible to say to a person what we ask you to do is abstain. if a person chooses not to abstain but also didn't use a condom because i was following church teaching then we have a different problem. if the church's approach -- a person who says i won't abide the church by abstain but i will follow the opposition to birth control has made an odd choice of priorities as far as i can tell. >> another issue, mass atrocities, we see what's unfolding in syria, and there's criticism the church hasn't gotten into the knitnitty-gritt that crisis. for me a touchstone as a catholic of my relationship with the church is 1994 and in a half catholic country, rwanda was 50% catholic, they stood in silence
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as people were slaughtered. a lot of comparisons in congo to the last genocide. do you think the church needs to do more to speak about that conflict? all it has gotten is a passing mention and general speech on conflict. >> the father is a jesuit, always doing justice and carrying out justice. i would say he would be doing more and i think he is probably prodding people through the proper channels and catholic relief services and charities and other international aid organizations. the church is heavily involved with -- they didn't do nothing in rwanda. we had a lot of bishops who traveled there and relief agencies doing work on the ground so there are a lot of people in the grass roots within our church doing a lot of work helping people there. i wouldn't say the church was doing nothing. there was a lot of stuff -- sometimes things are done behind the scene that are sometimes more effective than things done
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for publicity sake. >> how does the pope cater to the different opinions in the developing world and in the developed world? >> i think he does it in a jesuit way, the jesuits believe god encounters us in a personal way. you see that in pope francis. he is the pope of the personal encounter, wants to meet them. we were talking about aids in africa, when you think about that, the pope said we want to meet people where they are at. not interested in talking about hot button issues we're obsessed with in the west. we need to deal with people, each individual person, where are they on the journey? not worry about these other things and policies and dogmas and moral principles but rather meet the person where they are with our own values and beliefs but also respecting them and listening to them and dialoguing with them and walking with them. this way he feels would be drawn to crisis in that way rather
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than hitting them over the head with something. >> thank you so much, father. thank you for your advocacy on your sets of issues. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> let's check in on today's battle of the day. we asked, do you think that boosting overtime pay will help or hurt businesses in the long term? here's where we stand. 90% picked rfd ot help and 10% rfd ot hurt. thank you for participating. up next, the human crisis for those fleeing the three-year war in syria. please stay with us. >> the refugee camp where we find miriam is isolated and bitterly cold and conditions deplorable. it's the worst i've seen. she shares a small tent with her family and five children, including the baby boy born yesterday. $1,000 fuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: point is there's never been
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>> welcome back. those were syrian children from the refugee camp. in syria, 4 million people are in urgent need of humanitarian assistance. according to unicef, almost 2 million are children under 18. and 536,000 of them are children under the age of 5. members of this lost generation have been exposed to grave human rights violations including killing, maiming, sexual violence and torture and half a million child refugees are in jordan, lebanon, turkey, iraq and egypt. thousands more are streaming across syria's borders every single week. senators rubio and mccain announced a bipartisan
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reresolution calling on president obama to submit to congress a more robust u.s. strategy for addressing the syrian humanitarian crisis. we've spoken to voices at the u.n., save the children and on the hill. and today in the executive branch of government. i'm joined by the director of the office of global youth issues at the state department, has a special place in my heart because that is my old job. how are you? >> i'm really well. how are you? >> tell me what is happening in syria right now, particularly with respect to your wheelhouse which is youth issues. this is something of a lost generation, right? their parents had some level of stability and had much less factionalism and now you have a generation weathering the worst firestorm imaginable. >> thank you for making this your call to action this week. looking at the particular impact this crisis is having on
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children and youth is incredibly important. this is the largest humanitarian crisis in our entire generation. you laid out numbers. let me layout more. 10,000 children have lost their lives. we have about a million children inside syria in hard to access areas. and over 3 million are out of school and have been out of school for about three years. so if we look at that generation of people, those are going to be the future leaders of a prosperous and stable syria. this calls upon the conscience of all of us as the secretary recently said, which means we all have to do more. the u.s. government is doing what it can to focus on pt needs of this important generation so that they don't lose their entire childhoods and young adulthoods to conflict. >> you just got back from meeting with syrian refugees in jordan. tell us what the regional impact is. >> if you look at the country like lebanon and jordan and turkey. in lebanon, for example, they've
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absorbed the same as if everybody from the united kingdom came and moved to the united states and came with no jobs, no houses and nothing but literally the shoes on their feet. i was able to meet with young syrian refugees, some of who just came hours before and been there two to three years. the young people i spoke to, in one case i spoke to a young man who was looking forward to graduation. he was a junior in college at the university of damascus and he abruptly had to leave school and now kind of sits in this perilous limbo waiting to see what the future holds for him. i will say every single person i spoke to, whether they were 2 years old or 20 years old, they all spoke about their fervent desire and hope to go back to syria, to resume some sort of normalcy in their life. this is where we think we all need to do everything that we can to partner with them to ensure that they can help deal
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with the shock and trauma of everything that has happened to them in the last few years. >> all right, thank you so much. thank you for the work you do. your office and office of global youth issues at the state department is a pretty significant change in how the state does business, focusing on this generation in the policy process. we would love to come back to you as further issues on this front arise. >> sounds good. good to see you, ronan. >> take care. this week we're teaming up with unicef to fade out all of our l avatars on facebook and twitter to show solidarity. i'm changing my profile picture to mark three years of suffering for children in syria with unicef. jackie just wrote, done, go to the ronan farrow daily facebook page for more. we'll be right back. g, that feeds, protects, and holds in moisture to make growing thicker, healthier grass easier.
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and zeros. first up, someone trying to change a startling statistic. america is the world's largest jailer. just fiv5% of the world's population, we incarcerate a quarter of the world's prisoners. eric holder reducing the average sentence for drug dealers by about one year. this would decrease the federal prison population by nearly 6,500 inmates over the next five years. he is also working with republicans in congress to eliminate mandatory minimums for nonviolent drug crimes. holder has said prison reform is also a civil rights issue. african-americans account for 13% of the u.s. population, but they make up 37% of the prison population. so for taking a stand on our "overreliance on incarceration," eric holder is our hero today. on the other hand, let's take a look at a case of deadly corporate greed. late yesterday, gm said it knew
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as far back as early 2001 that its cars' ignition switches could fail. they continued manufacturing cars with those faulty switches for years. they are now finally recalling 1.65 million cars. but it is too little, too late. the defect has already been linked to 13 deaths. so our team of zeros for today are the four gm ceos who ran the company from the discovery of that defect to the recall last month. for covering up this deadly fault and delaying action, they have blood on their hands. go ahead, guys. sue me. the new gm ceo overseeing the recall has only been around since january 15th, so we'll leave her off the list for now, but she will have to work hard to atone for her predecessors' sins. let's check in for the last time on today's battle of the day. the winner with 88%, rfdot help. a lot of support for the president's measure to expand
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overtime pay. thank you, everyone, who weighed in. that wraps things up for today's edition of "ronan farrow daily." thank you for joining me. and now, it is time for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. what do you have coming up? >> all right, ronan. thanks very much. funny you should mention overtime. president obama making a controversial announcement. shortly, we will take you there live. then i'll talk to the congresswoman. plus, the latest on that missing malaysian airlines plane. minutes from now. ♪
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sign new overtime rules into practice that can help millions and we'll bring that to you live. in a moment, paul ryan and his latest controversy. his comments about inner cities. his statement today to nbc, and the congresswoman who called him out. but first, an update on the tragic explosion wednesday morning in east harlem here in new york city. at least seven people are dead, and more than 70 are known injured as rescue workers continue to search for the victims of the gas explosion that tore apart two buildings on park avenue just north of central park. officials suspect a gas leak may have sparked the explosion. however, con edison officials say it's not clear whether a ruptured pipe or something else caused the explosion. today, mayor bill de blasio and other city officials toured the scene, giving praise to the firefighters still searching through the rubble. i admire the work you guys do, he said. it's not easy. and now to paul ryan. he's in trouble, again. for comments he made about
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poverty, again. and this time, it's not about a fake school lunch story or a much maligned report slamming the war on poverty. this time it's regarding his believes about poverty and, to quote him, the cultural problem in our inner cities. the latest trouble for ryan came wednesday morning when he went on the radio show of a well-known conservative, bill bennett. the two of them started talking conservative policy about race and poverty. specifically why it's so difficult to break the cyclical nature of poverty in certain segments of society. now, in theory, nothing wrong with that, right? until ryan said this. >> you know, your buddy charles murray or bob putnam over at harvard, voez gthose guys have n books on this, which is we have got this tail spin of culture in our inner cities in particular of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work, and so there's a real culture problem here that ha
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