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56% of the vote. governor walker's voter suppression efforts are not new but distinct in their shamelessness and quite popular. just yesterday republicans in the wisconsin state senate passed a new bill restricting early voting. a word to governor walker and his republican cronies -- shuttering the polls to secure victory isn't election strategy. it's cowardice. that's all for now. see you tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> the final public comment period has closed. >> i don't think the controversy over keystone is going i way anytime soon. >> researching both sides and listening to all the experts, i was wrong. >> proponents of the expansion delivered about 2 million comments. >> as long as it's economic to move that will be the factor. >> that's about twice the number of those in favor. >> the company that has managed
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to blow up two brand-new pipelines. >> extended keystone pipeline we get keystone kops. sneefsh thinks it's a good idea except for barack obama. >> time to take a stand. >> wake up this nation. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. what does it take to be an expert? how long do you have to be doing something before you are regarded as an authority, a credentialed voice, an expert? got to have academic credentials, got to spend some time studying the subject, work experience i'm sure comes into play. how much work experience before your you're an expert? 10, 20, 30, 40 years? what's an expert? you know what we're finding out throughout this entire process, there are no experts on climate change if you're a republican because they're all just a bunch of lefty wackos out there. now, it depends on who's doing the talking.
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it depends on who has the kre de -- credentials, who's been working in the field. something interesting unfolded today in a senate hearing. we'll get to it in just a moment. but i want to start with numbers. we should see where this thing is on the polling of the keystone xl pipeline. public opinion is starting to shift against the project. it's the more you know. in april of 2013, 74% of americans said hot damn, it's hot, let's do it. they wanted the keystone pipeline built. last friday, mashlg 7th, the number had dropped down to 65%. something going on. maybe not enough commercials out there. but wait, there's more. a new poll out today shows the support for the pipeline has dipped to 62%. it seems like the more folks talk about this the more they have questions about the project.
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they really think that this project is in doubt. the xl pipeline is trending down with the american public. there's new information coming out every day on the pipeline. the more the folks know about this the more these numbers fall. earlier today the senate foreign relations committee held a hearing on the xl pipeline. witnesses from both sides testified. experts. climate scientist dr. james hanson made a clear case against the pipeline. >> tar sands are among the dirtiest and most carbon intensive fuels. it makes no sense to set up a system to exploit them in a major way. if we don't approve it, a lot of that tar stands will never be developed. the world is going to realize pretty soon that we've got to limit the amount of carbon we put in the atmosphere and it's going to have to do that via a price on carbon and that's going to cause the most carbon intensive things to get left in
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the ground and that includes tar sands. >> all right. hold it right there. who is this guy anyway? dr. hansen. well, he's an extremely well respected scientist. you see he's a professor at columbia university. he's the former head of nasa goddard institute, new york city. he's got degrees in physic, astronomy and mathematics. at the ballpark they'd call him a real smart dude. he has won a number of awards including one from the national academy of sciences, no doubt a very solid witness for those who oppose the pipeline. now supporters of the pipeline relied heavily on the state department report. here comes karen harbor of the chamber of chamber of commerce, said the pipeline would have no impact on the environment. >> if you are in support of the environment, you are in support of the pipeline. it is good for our energy security adding a more stable and secure source of energy. and the state department has concluded that the keystone
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pipeline will have a negligible i wa impact on the environment, their words, and oil sands will be developed one way or the other. >> okay pap guy that's been at nasa for 32 years, left nasa so he could testify against the dwoft because he knew the real story, credentialed, he's got credential gas lor, chamber of commerce spokesperson. what do you think? opponents of the pipeline say the state department report is biased. new information out today proves holy smokes they're right. a firm that evaluated the keystone xl pipeline for the state department has admitted that they had ties to transcanada. in fact, in 2012, the organization known as icf international submitted a conflict of interest statement to the state department. turns out that icf international admitted doing work for transcanada so i'd say that's pretty good proof that the state department report can we now deem it as not exactly rock
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solid. now, meanwhile, the climate change deniers, well, they were out in full force today at the senate hearing. pipeline supporter, here we go again with karen harbetter, she had a hard time admitting that climate change is real. >> does that mean the chamber agrees that, one, that climate change is real and is caused by humans? >> the chamber has a long record on climate. also protecting -- >> not responsive to my question. i asked a very simple question. does the chamber believe that climate change is real and caused by humans? yes or no. >> we believe we should be doing everything in our power to address the environment. >> answer the question. >> that's great. is climate change caused -- is it real? is it real? >> the climate is warming without a doubt. >> okay. so climate change is real. is it caused by humans? >> and the other part of that is answer is it warming as much as
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some of my colleagues on the panel have predicted in the past? and the answer is no. >> is it caused by humans? >> it is caused by lots of different things. >> which is worse, watching that or going to the dentist? [ drill sound ] ow that hurts! then we have clims change-denying senator ron johnson from wisconsin. the senator got into a heated exchange with dr. hansen. >> i live in wisconsin. there were i think 200-foot-thick glaciers in wisconsin. how do you explain climate change -- ever had a carbon footprint? >> the statement you just made is play tantly false. we do know -- >> how do you explain climate change has occurred 10,000 years ago before man had a carbon print? how do you explain that? >> climate -- there are -- there are variations in the earth's orbital elements. >> those vashgss just end right
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now, so now it's all man made? >> no one has said it is all man made. there are natural -- >> kind of the tack that -- >> however, the man made effect is now dominant. and we can measure that because we can measure the energy balance of the planet and we see that there's more energy coming in and going out so therefore the planet is going to continue to get warmer. doesn't mean each year it's going to get warmer because there are natural fluctuations, but this decade is going to be warmer than the last one and the following one will be still warmer. >> i agree with miss harbetter. i think the science is far from settled. thank you, mr. chairman. >> ha, ha, ha! what are we dealing with here? let's go to the board. who's got the credentials? who's the expert? a columbia university professor, nasa 32 years, degrees in physic, astronomy, mathematics. here we go. we've got a business degree from the university of minnesota. he was an accountant at a ring
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seller, enrolled in an mba program but never really worked out, didn't complete it. there is where the republicans are. this guy is questioning this guy. this guy is telling that guy where climate change is in this world. really? i got some news for senator johnson. the science surrounding climate change is settled, it's real, and it's a major threat to our nation and our planet. it's disturbing i think that the united states senator is so in denial of an expert. i don't know if he's an expert or not. do you think dr. hansen is an expert? yeah. any fair-minded american would say that that gentlemen is as credentialed as anybody when it comes to climate change. so this is the mentality you're dealing with when you ear tealing with republicans on climate change. now on the flip side, senator barbara boxer of california made a great case against the pipeline. she highlighted health concerns and dangerous by-products that
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are associated with tar sands oil. >> the national nurses united representing 185,000 nurses have joined me and senator whitehouse in calling for a thorough health impact study on our people, the people of america, when you look at the immediate 45% in importation of tar sands. this is pet coke, mr. chairman. you have to take a look at this, because a lot-it is going to be stored around our nation. already we've seen it coming. this is just a sample of what mesh's going to look like when you see this tar sands filthy, dirty oil. this is what remains of it after it's refined. and it is stored just like this. we had testimony from people in chicago who said kids were having a picnic in chicago, the stuff blew around, they were covered in soot, and had to leave. >> well, i'd say i'd side with 185,000 nurses and scientists
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toef climate changing denying senator ron johnson any day. president obama has a major decision to make. he can side with the republicans and the oil industry and the nonexperts who are at this senate hearing today. i mean, they were supposed to bring the best of the best. brought the chamber of commerce. or the president can sign with the experienced scientists, the experts, the authorities, and the environmental groups. i just can't believe that president obama would side with ron johnson. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question -- would you let senator ron johnson teach your kids about science? text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com, and i'll bring you the results later in the show. and i got an extra star for saying that with a straight face.
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all right. let me bring in former montana governor msnbc contributor brian sweitzer, also with us tonight mark fulton, adviser for the carbon tracker initiative. let's go to you first, governor. i've changed. i mean, i think it's undeniably a risk to put this pipeline over the aquifer. but if the best experts were supposed to be at this hearing today, how can anybody support this pipeline? >> announcer: i don't know if it's just this pipeline. there's 81 pipelines that already cross from canada coming into the united states. most of them are hauling oil sanlds. and if the keystone pipeline isn't built, those oil sands are still going to be developed. they're already planning a pipeline that will go to thunder bay in manitoba and they'll put it on barges and run it through the great lakes and another pipeline that goes out to the pacific coast for export.
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there's 2.2 trillion barrels stored in canada, the largest deposit of oil on the planet. it's going to be developed and whether we bring this pipeline across nebraska or whether it's rail or barges, as long as we're using oil in this country, which we're either importing from canada, saudi arabia, or venezuela. i'm not a climate change denier. i'm an earth scientist. i started 30 years ago studying the planet and i believe that methane and carbon dioxide and the emissions that humans are using these hydrocarbons, whether it's coal or whether it's oil or even cleaner natural gas, we're creating the climate change. but we're not going to leave the hydrocarbon era tomorrow, and the sooner we move with a carbon tax the sooner we move with electric cars, the sooner we move with cleaner and better energy, the sooner we're going to decrease the risk to our planet. but it isn't just the keystone pipeline that is going to be the line in the sand. >> mark fulton, what about
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putting that kind of oil over an aquifer in a pipe that eventually will leak? they all leak. and if it does leak, why would we want to take that risk? >> well, thanks for having me on your show. i think i take more of just the economic argument here. when we look to the impact statement from the state department, which is a very technically very big document, very strong document technically, however, what we found was there was something rather simple we felt that might be put to people, which is really a very simple initial comparison. so at the moment, you know, rail is being considered as the big alternative right now to the pipeline. so we looked at this assumptions that they'd made about the differential costs of shipping by rail, shipping by pipeline, and the pipeline's more economic. so we looked at those price points and we realized that that would induce, we believe, more output because it's more
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favorable. so our simple starting point, if you like to say the stand-alone level, if you take this pipeline versus rail, we're going to see about five gigactitons of carboa lot of carbon over the life of this pipeline. we thought there should be some argument to say there is some significance if you take this pipeline versus rail. governor has pointed out that most people say, well, hang on, it's going to happen anyway. i just make something of an economic but even for want of a better word moral argument, which is i suppose that's based on the view if you're going to do it, i can do it so, that's okay. i'm not sure that in all circumstances you want to take that position. so the test, the significance test was always in a sense once you widened it to any possible way that this oil could get to market then it was always going to be an argument against a pipeline. but if you sort of narrow it down to this decision on this pipeline today versus rail, then
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i still think that you can say that this pipeline will enable quite a lot more carbon. >> governor, aren't you concerned about the health risks that are going to be associated with this kind of oil and some of the testimony that has been out there about how toxic this is? do you still believe that it's equal to that of venezuela in oil that's coming into the united states? >> pretty equal and pretty equal to the oil that we're currently producing in bakersfield. these are the so-called heavy oils that we've produced conventionally, and of course about half of the oil that's come prg the oil sands right now they're producing conventionally, drilling just like we do oil fields around the world. we make a very good point that this oil can be more toxic than other oils but sour crude is probably more dangerous than this. it's poisonous if you breathe some of that that leaks out of a pipeline. it's likely to kill you. >> so you wouldn't admit that this would be a step in the
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wrong direction? >> well, i wouldn't say that it's necessarily wrong direction, right direction. it is the direction. if this oil is not produced and put in this pipeline, then it will continue to go many the other pipelines. there's pipelines that are already running across the oglala aquifer carrying these oil sands from alberta to these refineries all over america. so this is just one more pipeline. there's already 81 pipelines crossing the border. there's 160,000 miles of pipelines crisscrossing this country, carrying hydrocarbons, some heavy oil, some natural gas, some distillates, but this is just one more pipeline. i think it's surprising we draw the line many the sand on just this pipeline as opposed to all the rest of the pipelines. >> mark, what about that? there is another keystone pipeline that's been put over. it's not as intense or sophisticated as this one. but why take that risk if you ear dealing with a company that doesn't have a good track record, which we talked about last night, and the environmental concerns and the
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turn to move forward into a different direction? >> yeah, well, again, as i say, for me, i do tend to focus on the carbon content argument. >> okay. >> and that to me is what our work has been about. >> all right. >> and again, this notion that there's lots of other pipelines, if there were so many other pipeline, why are we so keen to build this one? >> good point. >> the idea that this is not going to stimulate production i just think that's -- >> there's not a demand for it. not a security issue. that's a red her ring. brian swit sh weitzer and mark fulton, thanks for being here. answer tonight's question at the bottom of your screen and share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up, a new attack on voting rights in wisconsin. the rapid response panel weighs in next. first, bill o'reilly is all worked up about the president's new boost for workers. congressman keith ellison coming up.
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let's get to the questions. first if from doris. when are the democrats going to really fight fire with fire? well, i assume you're talking about the situation down in florida. not a big deal. republicans held that district for a long time. we're seven months out. a whole lot of things can happen between now and november. keep the faith. the facts are on our side. our next question coming from user scvindc. has quality public education become unfordable? when i was growing up we never had fights about resources, what school was getting this over
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that school. but of course we've evolved to neighborhood fights. we're going to save some neighborhoods, not going to save others. this charter school fight versus public education is going to evolve into something huge in this country. and public education, the door's open, everybody's welcome, i don't know if that's going to hold in the next decade unless we fight for it hard now. coming up, the radical pace continues in wisconsin a new attack on voting rights. the rapid response panel weighs in. and later exclusive footage from the front lines of the fight for public education. [ laughter ]
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day. the legislation will end weekend voting before statewide elections, restrict in-person absentee voting, and allow lobbyists to make campaign contributions and donations during election years. now, the republican-led senate voted to advance the bill to the republican-controlled assembly. we can assume it's going to happen. governor scott walker is a major proponent of the move. he also wants to require voters to present state-issued i.d.s in order to vote. walker told reporters he would call lawmakers into a special session for this? yeah. to modify photo identification requirements if courts don't uphold the measure. >> the only real thing i thought that was pressing, it may still continue to be pressing depending what the court reacts on, is voter i.d. >> voter i.d. measures has been blocked since short after governor walker signed it into law in 2011. the voter i.d. law was not in
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effect during the november 2012 general election or the special election in june of 2012 when walker survived the recall. he's running for ree athletics right now in the state. a poll shows this race is in a dead heat. walker and mary brushg tied with 45% of the voters polled. this is especially good news for democrats because the poll comes from rasmussen reports a firm found by conservative activists and also is criticized for results favoring republicans. ruth conniff from progressive magazine and wisconsin state senator lena taylor. senator, you first. what's happening here? i'm amazed. first of all, special sessions cost money. and here's walker. if he doesn't get the voting laws the way he wants them he's willing to call a special session and spend money to get it right.
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i want your take on that and tallas fact it sure seems like this is geared at minorities, at the elderly, and young people. your thoughts. >> first of all, thank you, ed, for having me again. good to be with you. you're not wrong at all. this is taking us back to the kind of mentality of jim crow back many the day. the reason he wants to call a special investigation sr. voter suppression is because he realizes that the polling that shows that he's dead heat right now when he's supposed to be their wonder boy, he's not doing well in wisconsin. the fox valley editorial came out to say that they're just chipping away at democracy. he should be concerned because that's exactly what they're doi doing. he wants to have a special session instead of coming up with the 250,000 jobs he said, he wants to have a special session to suppress people's ability to vote. and i hope that the court will do the right thing but, you
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know, you never know in wisconsin. >> ruth, what does walker gain by pushing for the voter i.d. law? he's got a john doe investigation looking into the way he ran the recall campaign. there's been an e-mail dump out there. these polls are not good. this teems very heavy handled. >> i think it's exactly what the senator said. i think walker and other republicans around the country frankly are looking to curtail voting by likely democrats. if you look at the issue they're trying to fix, when walker in that clip says this is the most important, most pressing election issue, it is a measure, voter i.d., to solve a problem that is nonexistent. there has never been a case of voter impersonation charged in the state of wisconsin and nationally "the washington post" recently ran a story saying looking at all the evidence it's basically a nonexistent problem they're trying to solve. cho -- so what is the real reason? the same reason they just passed this bill to make it impossible to vote early on the weekend. they're curtailing early voting.
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they're imposing voter i.d. on folks because it's going to make it harder to vote and make it harder to vote mostly by people in urban areas, people who are low income, by minority, the elderly and student who is tend to vote democratic. >> so senator taylor, this is going after milwaukee, this is going after green bay, going after madison. >> yep. >> that's how i read it. >> that's correct. that's exactly what they're trying to do. they're trying to disenfranchise individual, discourage people from voting. if you look at what they've done in the last two years at least about 30 pieces of legislation have been done to tweak away, to chip away at the constitutional right to vote one way or another. >> 30 pieces of legislation? >> about 30 pieces, yes, of legislation in the last two year s. i wonder how many issues the kwleshgs are having to retool, to figure out how to move forward, to learn and train. you have clerks retiring or
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refusing to do the elections because it's just too much. they don't want to be in the paper because they made some small error. now if you don't put something in this corner or you don't seal the bag in this way, they've just done so many different pieces of legislation including on top of that voter i.d. the legislation to take away weekends and evening voting. this is going to hurt rural, suburban, and urban wisconsin because people early vote. we should be encouraging people to vote and expanding the right to vote. >> ruth, this is anything but the old progressive wisconsin that you grew up in. no question. what about these numbers? rasmussen poll normally favors the republicans. do you get that sense out on the beat in wisconsin that this guy is in trouble? >> this came out after the e-mail dump you mentioned, after all the news about walker refusing to answer questions,
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after he went on fox sunday refusing to answer questions, saying what's with the secret e-mail in your office? i think that's hurt him. mary burke is getting traction because people didn't know who she was when she started. and rasmussen ironically tilts conservative in part because they have underrepresented minority voting. they didn't believe all those folks were going to come out and vote for obama. a lot of folks voted for obama when they were trying to suppress the vote in that last election because they were so outraged by exactly what senator taylor talks about, the effort to end people's ability to vote. >> finally, senator, are you -- >> and in 2012 -- >> go ahead. >> ed, in 2012, forgive me, we had 87% turnout in milwaukee, about 70-something percent turnout statewide. this is the reason walker wants to hurry and try to have that special session suppression time. >> senator, i have to ask before we leave you, are you surprised that charges are have not been brought to the governor, that the governor hasn't been brought up on charges?
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>> i'm disappointed. if it was somebody that looked like me, that things might be different. i will tell you that i have not seen anyone who's been able to get past as many john doe or investigations as my governor has. and in the end i think the appearance of impropriety at the very least -- who has a secret e-mail system and your secretaries are doing things 20 feet away from you and you have no idea? i don't believe it. and no one else should believe hype. he said, you know, he would do 250,000 jobs. we haven't seen it. the lies continue. the deception continues. >> thanks so much for joining us. more coming up on "the ed show." >> i'm maggie drury with your "cnbc market wrap." geopolitical concerns and worries about china's economy overshadow today's positive
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to get a better look we sent filmmaker and msnbc contributor alexandra pelosi to harlem to bring you this exclusive. >> reporter: i'm here in harlem, ground zero of the battle over charter schools. >> parents want to keep their kids in public school if they didn't suck. >> go to the right public school. public schools is not bad. >> you're happy in your mick school. >> i am. >> like the charter schools. kids are doing very well. their grades are up. i think some of them are smarter than public school kids. >> my daughters are both straight-a students and we need our space. i think it's unfair for them not to have the rooms they need to have. >> i totally agree with my mom. i don't think it's fair for a charter school to take up space. that belongs to us. >> reporter: an incredibly successful charter school competing with needs for a public school. >> this is about space.
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we're talking about three rooms that were to go over to the charter school in this building. >> what goes on this-in those rooms now? >> we're strugting special needs student ps. >> let me know if you need help. >> state of the union who is live in this community and have a right to come to this school. if we lost those rooms it would affect the whole community. this is a school. it's not just three rooms. this is a school that has spent a lot of time develop agriculture of caring and concern and love. it's my responsibility to take care of all students. my special needs state of the unions have a right to be here. we have to educate them. >> reporter: how do you feel about the fight for space in your school? >> i think it's unfair. it's crazy. my son has special needs too. >> kids should be treated equally, not the skills of one scored better than the other. they have to be treated better than my kid or someone else's kid. they should be equal. >> our school, mickey mantle, is a great school. we're a loving, warm, nurturing community, and we count too. it's about all of the children, not just some of the children. it's separate and unequal.
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it's survival of the fittest, it's darwinian, it's awful. special needs children count too. it's a shame for children that have special needs to be pushed out. people say they can go anyplace. they can't. they have special needs. charter schools are wonderful but don't take aware our place at the table. >> daniel drum, the chairman of the city council's education community joins us on "the ed show." good to have you with us. we have a lawsuit that's been filed, a half a million dollar pr campaign that's being put out by the charter school advocates. and you have residents saying their public schools are being shor changed. what's the result? what's the latest? >> i want to thank you for sharing this side of the story because it often doesn't get out there. people need to know for eva moscowitz to push into this school, she's pushing people out of the school. >> wh's her solution for those kids? >> she hasn't given one. she says let them go wherever
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they may go. she has no idea where they can go. >> just fall by the wayside? >> fall by the wayside. she's only focusing in on her own students. >> she is running a half a million dollar ad campaign. now, the public schools aren't doing that. what's your response to that? >> amazing. >> you have to win in the arena of public opinion and with a half a million dollars you can turn people against public education pretty good. >> amazing. in today's "new york times" it was reported she paid $500,000 to political consultants. public schools do not have access to that type of money. they can't run their own pr campaigns. they can't hire political consultants to make the case for them. they are at a disadvantage. they rely on programs like this to get the word out about what they're doing in the public school system. >> we have seen some tweets on this program that charter schools can go out and recruit and there's an extra curricula activity element in all of this to, who has the best athletic teams, who has the best students that are gifted in certain areas of music and what not.
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does that limit the opportunity for other students to be exposed to those who have got, you know, extraordinarial enls? >> absolutely. it makes a system that is separate and unequal. and what happens is that those students who don't attend those charter schools don't have the same opportunities as those who attend the public schools. oftentimes what happens is they're in the same building. sometimes the children who who go to the charter school go in one entrance in the school building and the children of the public school go in another sbrns entrance. they're oftentimes not allowed to co-ming until the same building. >> what is your response to governor cuomo supporting the charter schools? >> in new york state, 97% of the student who is attend school go to a public school and i would hope the governor would stand up for those 97%. in new york city it's 94%. we need a governor who will fight for our public schools. >> he's not fighting for the public schools? >> he eaks focusing right now on the charter schools. he needs to come out and also say that our public schools are good places and that he wants to
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stand up and support those children who are in public schools. >> has the governor gone on record about these kids losing space in a public school? >> no. being taken over by a charter zmool. >> i don't believe he's said anything yet about this. i think this issue is now coming forward because i don't think a lot of people realize that in order for eva moscowitz to come into the school she had to push other kids out of the school. >> is this a bully situation? >> kind of. it's unfortunate it's happening in a public school because we're against bullying as well, but yes, she has big money, power, these hedge fund managers who back her school, who contribute money to her school. so when you have that type of access to power and money and the other school doesn't, it becomes a bullying situation. >> she's gotten a lot of media attention. >> a lot of media attention. i'm not theout there fighting a as i can as can chairperson of the education committee to counter some of that. >> isn't there a different solution for this? if they've got a half a million dollars to pay her and a half a million dollars to pay clans, i mean, is there not any kind of
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rental space at all that would be available for these charter schools? why would they want to infringe on the public school kids? >> right. you would think with that type of money they can afford to pay rent. that's what this is about. if really about. if they want to afford it, let them go out and pay their rent. charter schools are actually private schools with a public charter. the idea for charter schools originally is that they would be incubators so that the ideas that come out of charter schools could spread out into the public schools. that's not what is happened. people look at them to make a profit. >> what is the end game here? >> we need to ensure that our public schools are as equally funded and popular. >> i got that. i want to know how this is going to be resolved. how is this -- is she going to get the space? >> i don't know that she is going to get the space. i think she has a lawsuit out on it. we're going to have to see what comes in on that lawsuit and we'll take it from there. but i don't think public school students should be pushed out of their building to accommodate a charitee school.
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we are reporting. here are today's top trenders voted on by you. >> boy, it sure takes a lot of promises to get elected, doesn't it? >> brewer bows out. >> there does come a time to pass the torch of leadership. >> peace, i'm out of here! >> i will the doing just that. >> how tough was this decision? >> it wasn't tough. >> the arizona governor will not run for a third term. >> governor brewer has made enormous headlines during her time in office. >> signing sb 1070. >> wagging the finger in president obama's face. ramming medicaid expansion through the legislature. >> she did what she thought was right for arizona. that's all you can ask. >> the number two trender, homeward bound. >> i never asked for anything. >> oh, that's brilliant. >> the new jersey teenager who is suing her parent to pay her bills. >> you're 18 and you've got a scholarship and you're grown up and free. >> rachel canning is now back home with her family this morning. >> the new jersey teen who sued her parents moves back in.
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>> a judge denied her request for financial support. >> you're grounded. >> as far as my client is concerned, it's ancient history. >> rachel's attorney says her parents are now pressuring her to drop the lawsuit. >> and today's top trender. order's up. ♪ you deserve a break today >> president obama's using his executive authority to expend overtime pay for millions of american workers. >> this president believes in a labor market that is fair for people. >> now president obama is going to demand of white collar workers like you, henry, and me that we get overtime. >> president obama makes another executive move to boost workers. >> if this ever became law, then the company is going to fire white collar workers. >> wait, what? >> he is targeting the fast food manager who is making $600 a week, currently not eligible for overtime. >> people should be rewarded for fair work. ♪ have it your way, have it your
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way ♪ >> joining us is congressman keith ellison from minnesota. thanks fog being with us. what does the latest executive order mean for workers? it goes to a limit of just under $52,000. so bill o'reilly doesn't have to worry about anything, okay. and neither does ed henry. i think they're doing better than that. but bottom line here, what is this going to do? >> it means the president is listening. it means that work rules regarding overtime pay are going to be honored, and that people are going to get compensated for the very hard work that they do. there is a reason we got four decades of flat wages in america. it's because of low minimum wage. it's because people aren't getting the overtime pay that they earn. it's because of bad trade deals like the tpp. it's because of a number of things the president is being responsive to the american worker. and it's a good thing. and i'm glad to see it. >> and we should point out that george w. bush did this, moved
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it to $455 a week. the president wants to move it to just under a thousand dollars a week. within the last hour, another story. a bipartisan group of senators reached a deal to reauthorize unemployment insurance for five months. i think it's great. they're going home. just before they do it, what is going to happen in the house? >> well, there is going to be a lot of pressure on john boehner. is he going to stand with american workers who find themselves out of work and who need a little extra help because of it or not? the fact is whose side are you on moment, and the senate has done its work. and boehner is the one who can put this bill on the floor. we will vote it up. and people will be able to get the money they need. thinking will be retroactive back to the end of december. >> it will be. yes. >> and for five months. the senate is going to get 60 votes. will there be any republicans with you? >> i think so. you know, matter of fact, republicans got people in their district who have been in need of unemployment insurance.
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i mean, if they don't, they're going pay a price. again, this is a moment of whose side are you on. thing is enough sensible republicans who are going to do the right thing. >> so who is the hostage here? what are the republicans getting out of this deal? >> well, you know, there is this thing called pinch and smoothing. and it's a procedure which has resulted in them being able to collect enough money for a paid for. and so that's what it is. that's really how they're paying for it. >> what is the house doing about congressman issa after his insulting performance the other day? >> well, let me tell you. i'll let you have the picture here. because darrell issa cut our ranking member off in the middle of the debate. here is the picture of issa cutting it off. right now dan killdee of michigan is leading a resolution saying this is unacceptable. you can not cut another member off in the middle of debate. it is against the rules. and issa is going to be held accountable for it. here is the picture.
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i hope folks see it. >> quickly, the democrats trying to get him removed as the chair? >> well, he doesn't deserve to be chair. so that would be the right thing. but this motion is to condemn his behavior. >> okay. >> perhaps the republican colleagues will see that he doesn't deserve to be the chair. >> congressman keith ellison, thank you so much. that's "the ed show." time now for "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton. good evening, rev. good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, paul ryan's sorry excuse. congressman ryan is supposed to be the gop's expert on poverty, the one who supposedly is going to convince america that republicans are the ones who really want to help the poor. but over the last 24 hours, he's been hammered for those explosive and offensive comments, blaming poverty on a culture of men not working in inner cities. >> we
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