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ordered -- oh, wait. that's the worms one. this is why i need you. >> it's not easy. >> we're going to miss you. congratulations on your next adventure. we are going to miss you around here. congratulations on that is righe her a little hug. >> thanks, louis. >> you might have gotten sick a moment ago. >> that's it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ >> good morning, everybody. it is friday, march 14th. welcome to "morning joe" and happy friday. for some reason it feels like it's been a long week. does anybody disagree in meacham does because his are nice and smooth. we have with us on set, donny deutsche. hi. >> my weekend went great. >> visiting professor from nyu
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and former democratic congressman harold ford jr. harold, pulitzer prize winning historian jon meacham as well. we have a lot of news to get to. i want to get to ukraine at some point because we have developments that if anyone doesn't think this is going the wrong way and perhaps were retrievable, i think is naive at this point. one week, though, since flight 370 disappeared and sadly no closer to discovering what happened to the 239 passengers and the crew and the plane itself. yesterday, the white house said the search and rescue operation may be expanded into the indian ocean. because of new information first reported by "wall street journal." official now believe flight 370 remained in the air for several hours after its last communication with ground control. meaning the plane may have traveled an additional 2,200 miles. that is based off pings sent
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from the plane to satellite according to its speed and altitude. the final ping was sent over water over a normal cruising altitude. aviation official are still investigating the possibility that someone on the plane disabled its communication systems. abc news reports two data recording systems were shut down less than 15 minutes apart, indicating a deliberate act. joining us now former senior air safety with the national transportation safety board greg fife. is there anything we know that doesn't indicate a deliberate act? >> at this point, mika, no. it is now clear that somebody intentionally took this airport and diverted course to beijing and went further west area possibly even south because the
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indian ocean has a southerly component to it. so this search area is really now with the expansion going to be a daunting task. >> my gosh. can you imagine even just trying to locate which way it might have gone at this point, greg? but my bigger question from 20,000 feet, if i may, when you look at what we do know at this point what stands out to you as important and perhaps indicating something terrorism, hijacking, something else. i know you're supposed to keep your options open when you're trying to figure out a situation like this but are you honed in on thinking it might have been some sort of misdeed by somebody on board? >> i'm an accident investigator, mika. so i'm very skeptical until i see the data or i have the factual evidence. but having worked a number of accidents over the years where there was a level of intention there to do something to the airplane, especially with the
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silk air investigation in indonesia to me this says somebody with a level of sophistication about that airplane knew exactly what to do and knew how they were going to do it and it was very well calculated and the only two people that come to mind are the captain and the first officer. i would have to believe that they are going to look at those two pilots and they are going to look at try and find what kind of intent. was it the fact -- i mean, with silk air, we had problems with this pilot. he had some issues with the airline and he had some personal issues. we may have the same thing going on here except at a greater expense. >> sir, it's donny deutsche. it clearly seems to your point that there are some misdeeds at hand here. the search here is over water. what are the probabilities, chances that this plane right now is on the ground someplace, these people are alive and being set up for some future act of terrorism? >> donny, that is always a
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possibility. you know, the search is focused over water because if you take a westerly track, the next logical place, of course, being the indian ocean, it's a vast body of water. let's say the airplane takes a southwesterlily or southern track it will go over a land mass and if it goes far enough, return over water. this could be a very encompassing search area but the logical place, right now with the assets they have there, will be the water until they get further data from any kind of down link from the satellite. >> within the national security community and the aviation investigation community, what priority is this? what is the level of america's involvement in the investigation? >> i'm sure this thing has escalated to one of the top two or three events as far as national security. to have an unknown like this where you have a commercial
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airliner with the potential, as we have seen from 9/11, i would this is on the very high priority list. the mailinlaysians are providine data. our history as accident investigators is to dig deep into the data. even as scant as just a ping that may have a download of location, possibility altitude information. so i think that that is going to be the biggest benefit to the malaysians is for the u.s. team and ntsb and boeing to assist them and dissect this data and try to focus or hone down that search area. >> greg, if i understand correctly there is a possibility, i mean, it's technically possible it could have landed somewhere and where would that be?
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>> i've heard a lot of that speculation. you're talking a very large aircraft that needs a very large piece of pavement to land on. even though you may have a skilled pilot who is flying that airplane, the chances of them finding a piece of pavement that could handle an airplane this size and then basically making it disappear once it's on the ground, i think, based on my experience, i would basically bet my reputation that it's virtually impossible. >> last question. we will get back to this story as we follow it throughout the morning. in your decades with the ntsb, have you ever seen anything like this or close to it and if you could touch on the passport issue, is that being ruled out as connected in any way? >> i think you have to look at it basically as two investigations. accident investigators that deal from like the ntsb really deal
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in the technical issues tas it relates to the airplane. while you have to work with the security folks and the crimin criminologists there are two, three parallel investigates going on right now. the ntsb is going to help try to find the airplane. once they do find what they believe is the airplane, then they get to do the technical stuff while the criminal folks will get into the backgrounds of these crews to see if they have got issues. silk air, we had to work hand in hand with the criminal investigators because there was a lot of personal information that was coming out about captain su on that particular airplane that took us in a direction that we were able to determine basically all of the information that this was an intentional act and precalculated and preplanned because captain suh took the airplane down in a an area there
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was no radar coverage. i have to think this person was very calculated and gone through a path of least resistance. if i'm trying not to be tracked i turn off the transponders and fly to an area that doesn't have any radar area and stay in that area so nobody can track me even militarily or with civilian radar. >> greg fife, thank you very much. when you look at active terrorism, don't usually they try and claim responsibility to sort of make more of it? it just seems out of step with the pattern or am i missing something? >> what i was happy to hear that greg said this plane had landed and seemed to use for another terrorism, he seemed that was highly unlikely. after four years after a explosion that killed 11 workers and caused the liargest spill i
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history, the epa agreed to lift a ban keeping bp from bidding on gas leases in federal waters. bp will also be allowed to once again hold government contracts. previously, the company was one of the largest fuel suppliers for the military. critics of the government's move say it's too soon to reward the oil giant. one consumer rights advocacy group says the following. this is a company that was on criminal probation after a 10:00 deep water disaster and has failed to prove it is a responsible contractor deserving a lucrative taxpayer deals. while the environment and the economies along the gulf coast have paid dearly. so has the company itself.
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bp put aside $42 billion. that includes $4.5 billion to settle a criminal case with the justice department. an estimated $9.2 billion in private settlements and a possible $18 billion in potential clean water act penalties. the lift of the ban is coming at the right time for bp as the next auction for gas leases in the gulf comes on wednesday. you know, they have worked very hard, donny, to rebrand themselves. you've seen the commercials. you've heard the messaging. is it too soon, though? >> no. you know, you want to really evaluate is their brand okay and if anybody at this table is driving down route 22 and you see bp or mobil, would you not go there in for gasoline.
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i think no. . consumers have the ability to forgive and time goes by and if they continue to act appropriately. >> i don't think they should be required to do something they haven't done before if they get any government deals to show they are constantly giving back. an entire year of business was decimated by this bill. >> $3 billion is a lot of money. i think to donny's point, i think they may gnonot only be t safest but should require the others to do the same. i happen to be in that class of people that they ought to put aside money in advance what may happen or could happen. perhaps these are the pro active steps and might suede some of the concerns by these consumer advocacy groups. frankly, i've impressed the way bp has known this and would like to know donny's point what they
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have done up to this point not only from a public relations point but -- >> they have done the playbook. they can't undo it. having it happened, they have done everything corporately responsibly. >> see what kind of contracts they get. >> they have to earn them now. they have to earn them. let's move to politics now. david jolly was sworn in yesterday as the newest congressman from florida, house minority leader nancy pelosi applauded democrat alex sink's effort despite falling short in the special election. though the race has been framed by many as a test case for obamacare's impact on mid terms, pelosi had a warning for republicans who try to campaign against the health law. >> i think that the republicans are wasting their time using that as their electoral issue and they will find that out. i think that our candidate alex sink, she's so excellent, so
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superb and she said it just right. there are many good things about the affordable care act. they are good for the health and well-being of the american people. there are some things that need to be fixed, let's do that and that is the message of our members. >> well, that is certainly we were talking about this yesterday in washington. message has got to be to have. certainly they have a lot of red meat to work with republicans in terms of using obamacare as an election issue. polls show that people are impacted by this and have a negative view in some ways, but they need to turn a negative into a positive and repeal might be too far. >> i don't think the jolly guy talked about that. i don't think he talked about repeal as some of the republicans in washington has. >> that's my point. >> joe had it right yesterday. i think the group that is, obviously, most worried about this were some of these u.s. democratic senators who may look safe today but a playbook now against them. i'm for all of them and i would
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urge a lot of them, particularly those up for re-election. they ought to craft a piece of legislation themselves. i think you have to fix instead of repeal like alex sink said. >> i think the republicans need that message took. no? repeal? >> jolly didn't run that way. the republicans if i'm sitting there advising republican in a tough race and say you take the jolly playbook. if you're a democrat you better figure out a way to show here are the three ways we want to change and bring it before the senate so they can go home and say not only am i urging the president i have put something on his desk. otherwise a big problem. >> i agree that is the tactic. you still are acknowledging something is not right and something is broken. it's a complicated message versus the republicans, look, throughout history we are swinging back and forth, more government, less government. this is the ultimate too much government message by the republicans. this is a harbinger of things to come. you talked a lot about it yesterday.
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it is a simple message. the government wants in your fans pockets and obamacare not working. your point the democrats taking the ball and going, well, is almost feeding into that message. i don't know what else i would do. >> i was going to say, i don't know what the alternative is. you have to put something for the president to sign, otherwise, we have a big, big problem. >> midterm elections can be more single issue driven in presidential years because people who are out there voting for guys like harold have to be a little, you know? >> exactly. >> so you can motive the -- the base is more easily motivated it seems to me in a midterm election. but i think the repeal argument has been dead since the day john roberts ruled and i think we should think back on this. it became part of the fabric of the country when the supreme court -- >> they don't have to go that route. >> and jolly didn't. he didn't talk about repealing either. >> no, no, no. but that is my point. i wonder if, you know, it's not when you have sweeping
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legislation that no other president could get through and you have republican party that tried to kill it every step of the way and i think have even gotten a reputation for being the no party. at this point during the mid terms and moving forward toward 2016, jon meacham, isn't the opportunity for the republican party to come up with some sort of positive message where obamacare we didn't agree with it and it's not working very well so we need to help now the country move forward with legislation that at least might help this work better for people? >> i think from a republican policy respective that is unquestionable. nobody looks at the health care system and that i is working great and we need to do more of that. as a purely political tactical matter to use donny's phrase, it's easier to run against something than to run for fixing something. >> that would be nice. >> two places to run. you run to give somebody something or you run to get rid of something. >> the argue to get rid of it is backed up by the argument you
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don't want people to have health care. >> they no long say they have to get rid of it. they say it's not working. it's a big difference. they don't have to become the party of no but the party of it's broken. >> it could actually be working in its early days. some facts could get into the way of that argument. >> exactly. >> facts have already gone in the way. >> i hear you. this is a implicate political equation. what would you advise democrats to do? if i was in my party i want to be able to do -- >> a better alternative or alternative fixes and move on with a positive message with a unified party with a unified leader who is -- >> i would do a double negative. >> -- inspiring. >> once again the republicans the party of no underneath the koch brothers and scare people. i think chris matthews talked about this yesterday and i agree with him. this is one more example they don't have an answer. all they want to do is take dumps everywhere and basically kind of do a double negative on the negative. >> i think alex sink who was a
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terrific candidate who won statewide before and won that area before, i think she tried a little bit of that and it didn't work. i think the law will work in a long run but we face a two to four-year challenge here and take some fixes that is perilous for the party politically. i may have the wrong answer but what we are doing now ain't working. >> here is one possibility and, harold, you've run, so react to buildi this. one of the way the president won the election he brought in new voters. he didn't rely on the existing political university and found people and brought them into the process. can you do that in a district, a state? is that a practical matter? can you get folks who are benefiting from the health care law and get them in and get them to the polls and help you over the finish line? >> one of the presidents did as a part of that is track more african-american voters and more latino voters and more younger voters. the question is in an off year we both know those numbers are not as large as they are in a presidential year. how do you create that?
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i'm not convinced you create that unless the president is on the ballot. and most of these candidates don't want the president in their districts or their states. >> we are going to talk about this coming up. we have more political news involving the republicans especially pertaining to this weekend. coming up on "morning joe" null elected congressman david jolly is going to join us. we are going to show his bob barker intro. it's fantastic. david gregory and arianna huffington and star of the nbc news new show "crisis" gillian anderson. up next the top stories and the political playbook but, first, bill karins with the forecast. >> i hear, mika, the snow melted on your yard. >> no, that's not true. >> would you like a little more on monday? >> no. >> just a little? >> no. please, bill, stop it! >> i think you're going to get a little st. paddy's day surprise. the snowstorm really hit new england hard. we had about two feet of snow in
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many of the ski resorts in northern vermont, new hampshire and maine and looking at temperatures this morning in the single digits up there. teens in boston all the way down almost to new york city. so it's another cold morning but we are going to give you a little break from our winter. saturday looks great and this afternoon looks okay. notice the middle of the country we are much warmer there. some of the warm air will slide across the nation. we will do a little snow melting the couple of 24 to 48 hours. chicago, detroit, buffalo through northern new england. look at the day in d.c. now talk about the upcoming weekend troubles. another shot of endless cold air it seems comes down and sweeps allow the great lakes saturday afternoon and saturday evening and arrives sunday mid-atlantic into the northeast. at the same time, we have this rainstorm in the north. it's going to hit the cold air and see the problems. this is how i'm looking at it. starting sunday afternoon, sunday evening, and then overnight into st. paddy's day. again, we are looking at rain
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mostly from central virginia south. rain to snow washington, d.c. it looks like maybe a little rain, then all snow philadelphia. new york city is on the northern edge of this and too early to give snowfall amounts because it could drift north or south but enough some people will have to plow and probably kids off of school with more delays and cancellations. here we are mid march! april can't start soon enough. you're watching "morning joe." salesperson #1: so again, throwing in the $1,000 fuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: point is there's never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event get a great deal on a jetta tdi.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ look at thomas roberts. we are going to talk about something later with him. i still haven't been able to catch up about you know who?
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yeah. all right. you bring it? a gift for me? bring it right now. i need a gift. it better not be those cookies. if it is those cookies, you're in trouble. are those those cookies? >> no. wait. this is awesome. for you. >> oh! oh, a little small! >> i'll wear that. >> what are you thinking? extra small, really? >> look at the tag. >> it's kind of expensive. >> it's an xl? >> it's a woman's. they told me at the story. >> that is a 30 dollar piece. >> that an xl in 1962 before the obesity crisis. >> a bumper sticker. >> you're so sweet. don't mess with texas women. i like that. that one is going on my truck. >> then i got you a bumper for your new music. >> next block. you're sitting with us. >> okay. >> and i'm going to go through my presents. i love it. thank you, thomas.
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donny, will you help me with papers? >> i will do anything you ask me. >> i got good stuff. all right! this is horrific as the number -- the death toll doubled in a matter of 24 hours. at this hour, it is still considered a rescue mission in new york city as crews search for survivors from wednesday's gas pipe explosion that brought down two buildings in harlem. the death toll is up to eight after another victim was found yesterday afternoon. three people remain missing at this hour. first responders are using high tech video cameras and sound equipment to locate anyone who may be trapped in the rubble. the search is about halfway complete. unbelievable. donny? >> "the washington post." the federal is vowing aggressive investigation into why general motors waited so long to announce a recall -- i can't read that. >> of its -- 300 people died
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after air bags failed to deploy. documents show gm was aware of a safety issue as early as 2001. >> that number is confirmed. that is pretty devastating and we will follow that. "the san francisco chronicle." mark zuckerberg made it clear to president obama during a phone conversation that he doesn't like the surveillance programs of the nsa. he called the president? wait a minute. >> harold does that all the time. >> yeah. okay. this comes after reports that the nsa uses a system to hack millions of computers and pose as facebook to install spying software. i guess he had the right to. zuckerberg, he's just so young. he took to facebook to complain saying the u.s. government should be the champion for the internet, not a threat and he does have a point. >> convenience stores across the nation are moving to crack down on the sale of e-cigarettes to
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minors. national association of convenience store issued new regulations requiring anyone to purchase the e-cigarettes. >> interesting. >> in this weekend's "parade" magazine. up close interview with the stars of the hit tv show "shark tank." >> yes, it's a show. >> it is? is it a hit show? >> yeah, a cnbc show. >> it's actually abc show that now they rerun on cnbc. >> i need to get with the program, obviously. "shark tank"? >> it's an entrepreneur show. a great show where entrepreneurs present their ideas to business leaders and it's interesting. >> i like it. okay, i'll check it out. with us now chief white house correspondent for politico. >> that's a lie. >> that's a lie? no, i'll check it out. my 40 days of lent is give up
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being pop culture and try to integrate with society and my daughters are helping me. i watched a show called "revenge" last night with my daughter. yep. >> i got a better one for you "scandal." >> i'm going to watch that -- i watched "scandal" with her in her room on the computer the other day. really, this is my thing. >> this is a lenten where you're taking on? >> i'm taking on and giving up being clueless. >> it's a second sunday. have you a little bit to go. >> i know. wish me luck. i'm going to watch "orange is the new black." and what are some of these shows you're obsessed with? >> "sons of anarchy." >> "the wire." >> those two are similar. >> send me ideas. help me be pop culture and in touch with america." mork and mindy? nanu nanu!
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mike allen, you can help me out as well. i'm going to keep a roster. let's talk politics. it looks like scott brown may, indeed, run for senate in new hampshire? what are the signs that you're hearing? >> mika, yes, but first things first. happy friday! >> yes! we need that! >> scott brown, who when he was running for senate in massachusetts was famous for his track. i think he might fight you for your bumper sticker, mika. today he is going announce an exploratory mission today. this is one of the most fascinating races in the country. he taking on a democrat shaheen who is a front-runner. a purple state but another purple state where republicans have a real chance. the news week after week has been good for republicans in the senate race. national republicans are excited to see scott brown jumping in
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and making this announcement at 4:30 at a big leadership conference up there. he started to reach out to staff. telltale sign the union leader up there reporting he started sending checks to republicans parties up there and we are seeing the power of the outside groups, mika. on tuesday, american crossroads, the biggest of the republican outside groups, is starting a 600,000 dollar statewide bye for scott brown and, mika, as you know, you can buy a lot of tv for 600,000 in new hampshire. >> this is getting interesting. politico's mike allen, thank you very much and have a great weekend and happy friday. >> happy friday to you. trash tv. >> exactly. i'm going to do binge watching this weekend. >> i want to know this is a lenten discipline you're watching more television? >> i'm giving up being pop culture and clueless about what
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you people do with this time. it's the polish lent. i spent the day yesterday with my father on the train. i tweeted some doozies including him posing in warbe parker. he did a selfie of him in sunglasses. i don't think he knew he was doing that because he was using the phone as a mirror so i tweeted it! >> does he play balance of power? >> no. he gordignored me. the source of championships and 88 game winning streak he is one of the most sgrated college basketball coaches in history. we look back at the life of john wooden with author seth davis next on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah.
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♪ inbound. the step-back for the win. got it! >> joining us now from cbs sports and "sports illustrated" seth davis. we are going to get to march madness in a couple of minutes. first, let's talk about your new book "wooden a coach's life."
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a look at the legendary coach who led ucla to ten national titles. harold ford jr., this is like the greatest coach in history. >> so much focus. we look at coach k. you look at jim boeheim and calla parrca calipari. a lot of generation and at 43, i am, you don't remember this game unless you study the game. this book is exhaustive. you talk about the times he was at the pinnacle all that was happening in his life professional. still questions and still things had he to deal with and it's kind of hard to image what that's questions would be with that kind of success. what were the questions he dealt with and how did he deal with that? >> thanks for having me. you guys get up early around here and i'm a night guy. i cover games at night and you get up early. it's great to be with us guys. a big reason i wanted to write
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this book because a lot of that part of his life has been forgotten. we think of john wooden and guys our age reading poetry with his dad. you don't win ten national championships by being sweet. he had a controversial reputation with referees and very thin-skinned when it came to criticism and pressure and was not always emotionally connected to his players. this was a high school english teacher from martinsville, indiana. grew up on a farm with no electricity and running water and 40 years later coaching a game in something called the houston astrodome. this was never in the plans for him. what happened was people forget it took him 16 years before he won his first national championship. >> think about this. 14 years until he won his first game in the ncaa tournament. do you think steve alford is going to make it 14 years? he won't make it three years without winning an nation's capital tournament. you guys can relate to this. once he started having that
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success, all of a sudden, he had pressure. he had expectations. he had a booster named sam gilbert who was violating ncaa rules with his players and he felt he should have done more to stop that and he had a very difficult time dealing with the pressure. he had a heart attack. he had sleeping issues and health issues. and then, again, you're talking about, you know, 60-year-old man at a time in our lives we're not so open to change dealing with a college campus in westwood, california, in the late 1960s and early '70s anticivil war movement and kent state. the outbreak of drugs on the campus that his players were involved in. all of this change and all of this pressure that he had to deal with and, yet, and, yet, somehow he was able to hold it together and keep winning. i think he is the greatest coach in the history of american sports for a variety of reasons. >> it's a fascinating biography.
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this is a good looking book cover. good looking book altogether. talk about -- you mentioned the thin skinness. what surprised you the most as you were putting this together about those revelations about being thin-skinned? >> part of the myth of john wooden is -- it's twfactual. never mentioned win to his players. that spun into a myth he didn't really care about winning. he just wanted to abide by a certain code of ethics. john wooden loved to win. bill walton told me that john wooden and larry bird were the two biggest trash talkers he knew. at one point in the southern writers want to censure him. he very much wanted to win. he was extremely competitive. he was not real popular with his coaching colleagues. they called him st. john. that was not a compliment. i think mainly the thing that
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surprised me how disconnected he was emotionally and psychologically from his players. he came in a time when men were men. they didn't hug. a lot of them left their experience playing for him feeling either ambivalent or outright hostile toward them and what a blessing he lived to be nearly a hundred with a complete mental faculties and able to repair a lot of relationships. i know you know my dad. how we get older our dads suddenly got smarter? a lot of the things he tried to teach them as students they were not receptive to came together as they got older. >> who are the five teams we should look at and why on the ncaa tournament? >> if it's possible to be number one ranked country and florida seems to have pulled that off. they don't have these one and done lottery types.
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exercises. move has thrown the region into turmoil with the european leaders already indicating it could make russia even more isolated. with a weekend vote in crimea over the weekend to succeed from ukraine, secretary of state john kerry is poised to meet with his russian counterpart in london. "the wall street journal" reports ukraine's new leaders have asked for arms and intelligence, but in an effort to try to cool the heated climate, the white house so far has only agreed to military rations for now. speaker boehner is shooting down a version of a senate aide bill calling on the president to go with the house version. during a hearing yesterday, senator lindsey graham was caught on live mike after a hearing offering secretary kerry help with the speaker. >> hey, john, good job. let me know what i can do to help you with boehner. >> woe. that is an interesting moment there. i hate it when that happens. john harwood, we are going to
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read charles krauthammer in just a hometown. what out of these few headlines i put forward about the latest in ukraine leads us to indicate that this is not going in a terrible direction very quickly? >> it looks like it's going in a terrible direction but our friend richard haass just put out a tweet a few minutes ago saying unclear to him whether or not what is going on is an attempt to prepare spoke something bigger or simply to flex in order to consolidate the gains he has already got. if it's the latter, maybe we are not going to have a war. we would have had something bad happen for democracy and for the world but that is not the same thing -- >> we are crossing our fingers that vladimir putin is just flexing his muscles? are you seriously? that is amazing. >> not crossing our fingers. charles has got a long list of actions he wants to take, but look. putin is the one who has the military cards. we don't. >> yes, he does. >> if he is going to stop, if
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all he wants is to control crimea and port and all of the things associated with that, that is less bad for us and the rest of the world than moving into eastern ukraine. >> before we read charles krauthammer, jon meacham, is there any indication we are not dealing with a person, at best, has loss of sense of parameters in life and is slightly off psychologically? >> that's always the great question, right? are you dealing with irrational? >> is it still a question? is it still a question? >> i think so. the question in foreign policy are you dealing with a rational or irrational actor. >> i have to tell you you're dealing with an irrational actor. >> i appreciate your question then because you were leading on -- >> tweet me at morning mika. >> david remnick said it's crazy to think putin is crazy. >> crazy like a fox. >> okay. >> also -- so -- the -- the if
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vladimir putin is a totally irrational actor is totally more dangerous on a level saddam, beyond anything. >> looks like he is trying to renationalize what it was under the soviet union. >> go ahead. >> let's go with the charles krauthammer piece in "the washington post" how to stop or slow putin. obama is not the first president to conduct a weak foreign policy. regim jimmy carter was similar inclined. he responded boldly rhythm posing the grain embargo. symbolizing the massive military aid we began sending mujahadin. they not only lost afghanistan but were fatally weakened as a
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global imperial power. invasion will -- >> did you go on that trip? >> no. but a picture of my dad with a machine grandpun. any comments? i'll stay out of this one. go ahead. >> as we compare apples to apples the most recent invasion is georgia of the black sea which the bush administration let happen and still an occupation that takes place today in georgia of russian troops. that was in access to the black sea as well. this again is about getting access to the warm water port off of crimea and also a ton of oil we are not talking about here. again, as -- jon, as we are talking about here, the renationalization. this flexing of muscle that putin is do and people are responding to it throughout russia but seems they make mistake after mistake whether it's syria or asylum for snowden, whether it's issues -- >> mistake?
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>> -- and now this. >> i think people keep saying this is reactivate the cold war. i disagree with that. it's reactivating the pre-cold war era. access to sea lanes. i never thought it would be nostalgic for the cold war but a nuclear balance of power that prevailed for 40 years. >> i hope i'm wrong. >> that had actual logic to it. charles is a large prescribing our flexing for his flexing. also it's a military exercises and movements. but on the issue of crimea even charles doesn't say we are sending troops there to reverse that because we can't. he wants much tighter economic sanctions and we haven't done that yet. >> hopefully, we can get secretary of state john kerry on this show. i think he has been pretty great on this and i hope that the flexing of muscles that we're seeing here is not what i think
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coming up at the top of the hour, we are talking to congress's newest member, representative david jolly. come on down! he joins us coming up. and john heilemann. i'll explain that. i'll explain that, john heilemann. and david gregory joins the conversation as well. keep it right here on "morning joe." ♪ will you bring me sorrow questions remain ♪ [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." look at that beautiful shot of capitol hill as the sun just about starts to come up over washington. harold ford jr. and donny deutsche are still with us. joining the table is national affair editors for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst john heilemann. in washington the moderator of "meet the press" david gregory. >> formal complaint. in agreement with the officials of nbc when john heilemann was here i didn't have to be here and somehow a miscommunication. >> diva alert. david is a lot easier to work you than you are, donny. david, do you ever turn video? >> i do. >> can you see me? >> i can. >> look what thomas roberts gave me. >> yeah. i know. i saw when he gave it to you last hour. >> oh, really?
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okay. i think it might be true. what do you think, heilemann? >> i wouldn't mess with texas women. he could of all i would never mess with you. >> i'm not from texas but i put me in the category. >> that's what i'm saying. you got that lone star state spirit. >> i do. i do. especially as it pertains to you. >> that's right. it's friday. we will be nice to everybody. thomas roberts came bearing gifts. we have a lot of politics to talk about and a lot going on with the republicans and david jolly is going to be joining us and that, of course, victory a lot of people are wondering whether or not it has national implications looking toward the mid terms. first, it has been a week since flight 370 disappeared and we are no closer to discovering what happened to the 239 passengers and crew on board the plane itself. nbc's tom costello has been following the story from the start. he has the very latest. >> reporter: it's now friday in southeast asia and the search for flight 370 is shift to go west.
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as u.s. government sources tell nbc news there's evidence the plane's automated systems gave off fapt pings for up to four hours after going off radar. that means the plane could have traveled up to 2500 miles in any direction. a vast expanse of the globe that includes the indian ocean. >> what it doesn't tell us, though, is what direction, whether it went west, east, north, south. because we have no radar coverage. so at this point we just know that the airplane was still operational and probably didn't have a mechanic malfunction or failure. >> reporter: at the request of the malaysians the search could sxan expand further. >> based on new information, an additional search area may be opened in the indian ocean and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy. >> reporter: u.s. government sources also say it appears more likely that malaysia military radar did pick up the plane
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making a u-turn and reversing course over malaysia and towards the indian ocean. meanwhile search teams unable to find any debris in the ocean at the location where chinese satellites spotted something south of vietnam. the chinese said releasing the images was a mistake and what we know for sure is still limited. controllers lost contact with flight 370 somewhere between malaysia and vietnam. no radar. no radios. no identifying transponders. >> you just turn it three clicks to the left and the transponder is off. >> reporter: aaa simulator instructor says fountain plane did make a u-turn it would be a deliberate action. >> there is absolutely nothing would go wrong with the airplane that would cause the transponder to turn off and the plane to automatically start doing a turn. >> we have extended the search area because it is our duty to follow every lead and we owe it to the families and, trust me when i say it, we -- >> reporter: still after six days, no sign of flight 370.
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>> one thing that will come out of this is transponders will stay on without a switch from now on. that was nbc's tom costello reporting. we will be following that story. we will move to politics now. while david jolly was being sworn in yesterday as the newest congressman from florida, house minority leader nancy pelosi applauded democrat alex sink's effort despite falling short in the special election. though the race has been framed by many as a test case for obamacare's impact on the mid terms, pelosi had a warning for republicans who try to campaign against the health law. >> i think that the republicans are wasting their time using that as their electoral issue and they will find that out. i think that our candidate alex sink, she's so excellent, so superb and she said it just right. there are many good things about the affordable care act. they are good for the health and well-being of the american people. there are some things that need to be fixed, let's do that and
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that is the message of our members. >> david gregory, don't you think advice like that from a republican might be more effective for republican candidates? because i would think that it would be opposite hearing it from nancy pelosi. >> yeah. yeah. look. you talk to democrats and some of these swing districts, maybe even more republican leaning districts like this one was. they want to fight obamacare to a draw and not in a position they are trying to win obamacare outright and switch the debate to more pocketbook issues and middle class and empowerment issues where the democrats think they have a better chance. why so little is going on in washington is the republicans are focused on midterm races where they can make health care the singular issue if you're rap running. >> is repeal, repeal, going to work, john heilemann? >> look. . what we have learned over the last several election cycles the
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composition of the electorate matters a lot. who turns out to vote. >> yeah. >> i think in a lot of these marginal districts this message whether nancy pelosi likes it or not is a highly motivating message for republican voters. the democratic problem is david is right they have to figure out how to make the argument on health care and fight that to a draw. the question becomes what is it they say to get their voter to come out and what energizes the democratic side the way health care energizes the republican side. i think that it's a bad message for the long run for republicans and it doesn't help them to become a national governing problems in a presidential election but a lot of these marginal districts will help them. >> let's ask a question. we will have someone who is far more effective and likeable do the honors. bob? >> hello, pinellas county! i'm bob barker and i wish i
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could be there with you folks tonight. but i would like to say two things. one, help control the pet population. have your pet spayed or neutered. two, words i have waited months to speak! congressman david jolly, come on down! >> and that was brilliant! david jolly joins us now. congressman, congratulations. >> well, thank you very much. thank you for having me this morning. >> congratulations on your victory and on the bob barker intro. >> well, hey, that was a surprise for me. that was a little surprise that my team put together. >> i thought it was well done. >> great night. it was fun. >> i thought it was well done. tell us, looking forward now, what do you think republicans can learn from your victory? and i'll kind of put a book ender to the question. do you think the repeal, repeal, repeal message needs to be reformed to something more positive moving forward to the mid terms? >> well, so i would remain folks
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that, you know, we had a local race and it's easy either inside the beltway or just based on 30-second commercials to suggest that it is just a repeal strategy. it never was an hour race. i would say for republicans, you know, that is an important lesson to hold on to. i had the opportunity over five months to talk about specific solutions. we can't you just be the party of no so i laid out three or four alternatives and the reason why is i wanted to draw the contrast to what the real issue is here. this is a big government, small government debate. you know, republicans and democrats, we have this debate all the time. obamacare is simply a manifestation of that. people see obamacare as big government in their lives. it changes the role of government in their lives. that is what is resonating. what also is resonating is, as i said earlier, we can't be the party of no. this was a local race. a very local race. what miss pelosi said about republicans just chanting repeal that was never our message in this race. we had a very constructive
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dialogue on this issue. >> you talk about obamacare being big government and people are pushing that away. it's not working and sort of another way of pushing the repeal message. and, yet, you also say you can't be the party of no. i think those two things might be at odds with each other. david, do you want to jump in? >> well, one of my questions is where is your coming into washington, despite the message on the campaign trail, is there a big idea around which you think you can work with president obama, where you can support president obama and the democrats? >> well, so i said yesterday, you know, my campaign is over. we have a responsibility to work together. i pledge that on the house floor during my brief remarks. so, listen. where we can find areas of agreement, we need to work together. i, obviously, bring some pretty core convictions and he need to stay true to those convictions. my mentor and i know many have served with him on both sides of the aisle, bill young, listen, he was a man of civility and his
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spirit is in that chamber. it is how i learned to do the job. so i would never say we can't find an area to work with the president. >> do you know what is out there. i'm wondering one area, one big idea you can agree with the president on. >> so, listen. let's talk about obamacare. i talked about the concept of a true less government solution which is a concept of term health insurance. we have term life insurance. let's talk about less government and allowing somebody to purchase a policy and portable across state lines. reduce regulations on employers and let them simply reimburse it and term life insurance can't be cancelled if you have an intervening health event. i'm number 435 out of 435 this morning and i don't think the president of the united states is going to negotiate with me on his significant legislative achievement. am i willing to work with everybody? i am. but, at the same time i can't sacrifice my core contentions. >> harold ford here. congratulations on your win. >> thank you, harold. >> i know you talk about the minimum wage as you and miss
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sing went back and forth. you said that you're not sure what the minimum wage should be increased to although you think it should be increased but going forward it should be index to inflation. based on david gregory's question is that an area where you think you might be negotiating even though you're 435 and an important 435 you can negotiate with the president going forward? >> i would love to put that idea forward. you might be referring to a debate where i was challenged on that concept and i reminded my opponent, look, it's a progressive idea. here is my statement on minimum wage. never felt comfortable that politicians get to arbitrarily choose a wage rate. i'm not an economist and either is president obama. we have other federal programs indexed in social security. i would look forward to talking about that concept and get the lesions out of that once and for all. it shouldn't be something that is arbitrarily debate. >> john heilemann?
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>> congressman, you made a correct point this is a local election but you are looking at your election as a template for going forward. if you had to give advice to your fellow republican candidates that are running in november what are the lesson you learned in terms of what works and what doesn't work in this environment? >> first for us substance matters. we have to have answers. miss pelosi said we need fix what is broken and keep what is working. the third evolution of my opponent's obamacare message. i saw three pivots in her message and started with embracing it and knocking the roll out which i joked my 9-year-old niece knows the rollout was a disaster and after that it moved to keep what is working and fix what is broken. if you challenge a democrat on that, they really don't. to talk about what is really broken. what caused cancelled policies and increased premiums? we are hearing the story line of concern is among businesses who are reducing employees hours.
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they are absorbing skyrocketing costs. those are problems that it's easy to say in rhetoric as miss pelosi and my opponent did, they want to fix it but they don't want to talk about the substance of it. the second issue here is voters see this as just an issue where washington can do better. the story line of pass it and see what is in it sill resonates. the fact that the president is delaying portions of his legislative achievement. doesn't matter if we are talking about health care or other issues. voters see this as washington messed up and they are not owning up to it and they expect better out of washington. >> congressman david jolly, thank you very much. congratulations on your victory. great to have you on the show. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> david growing, i want to pull out and take a look at this overall. especially given this victory that we just saw in florida. the polls we have seen this week that really kind of frame the
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challenges the administration is facing heading toward the midterm and how obamacare. what is the cycle of negativity the administration is facing and would it be a since of foreboding about a growing foreign policy crisis that is looming that people don't perceive the gravity of? >> perhaps. except i think that is also an area of real vulnerability for the president. >> how so? >> i think the people look at the president in doubt whether he has a unified theory of foreign policy right now and how america uses its influence around the world. if you look at the president's approval rating at 41%. the fact americans are so frustrated with the heading of the country and our economy is improving but so many people don't feel it and so many out of work. a lot of people waiting for the
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obama presidency to be over if you're in corporate america. thif t i think republicans are running against the argument whether obama is legitimate as president any more and what they are running hard against, that government is too big and too onerous and the health care is the symbol of that and we have kind of lost our way. there is a kind of unified case that republicans are making that has a lot of traction right now. what the president is saying is there's lots wrong with that argument. there lots good that we are actually doing and that democrats, right now, are complacent, that they have fallen back on this electoral games and the fact they are very satisfied with being a national party. a unified party if you think about 2016. but republicans have a lot of momentum going into this midterm. >> could the only place where i'll disagree with david, donny, throw to to you as we look at toward ukraine and what is happening with russia, and vladimir put and whether one
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person doesn't wear a shirt and rides horses and they are totally missing the fact he is a mad man who could change the future of the world. >> reception. >> the president is actually taking this methodically. secretary kerry. most people who are experts in eastern europe they may disagree on what exactly he is doing, but they are supportive of not taking putin for granted and looking at his performance as leadership like. >> that is the left brain logical solution. to me the republicans have a three-prong swat. we don't have a strong leads. use that word strong. >> oh, please. >> listen to me. we don't have a strong leader. we do not have -- we have too much government. in other words, obamacare, time for change. you kind of lump those together, it's a very powerful message. although conceptionally what you're saying is right about foreign policy. the perception always is, obviously, republicans tougher.
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>> that is the short term. long term doesn't mess around with mad men and play with our future in ten seconds or less, and also in terms of obamacare, what? so we want a health care kris but all paying for e.r.s. joe scarborough is jumping in and i'll get to you. >> that's very nice of you, donny deutsche. i think donny understands there are a lot of things you can argue in a 30-second ad if you're trying to sell a product or are you trying to sell a party as long as it's a big picture approach you're taking. donny, i think you're exactly right. i think the republican party right now has the big message. and the message is that we are on the wrong track. government has gotten too big. it's out of control. the president is not a strong leader. and we need a new direction. that is strip it all down, donny, is that not the strongest
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message that any party could have is that we need a new direction forward? this isn't working. let's try something new. >> it is. you have the visceral. you have the prove point which is too much protection in obamacare and too much to advertising change, time for a change. >> and you're selling beer. >> no. you're talking about a 30-second message. >> mika, i think it's heilemann's point too. which is democrats have to truly get energized and what the president is warning against. they are not fired up and they are not worried about the alternative as much as they were in the presidential races. and in order to get their voters out. low turnout elections will favor this other unified theory. >> what should the democrats be doing to counter. what would you advise the democrats to counter the message big government is intruding and we need a different direction? >> i'll answer that in a second. first i got to go back to what mika said which is that this is
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a great message if you're selling beer as if this is some sort of hope and change is some sort of new idea. it's what elected barack obama when they sold him like a bag of potato chips. it was nothing but a marketing campaign, hope and change. hope and change. guess what? that worked in 2008 for barack obama. it's probably going to work in 2014 for republicans, at least the change part. what would i do? you know, if i were -- it depends on where i was running. this is -- this is an election, harold, you know is fought out in 50 states and 435 districts. and if i'm a democrat running in the senate seat in louisiana, arkansas, or north carolina, i don't just kind of distance myself from barack obama. i know i've got to aggressively distance myself from barack obama if i'm a democrat and talk
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about the failures of obamacare. i voted for the law but he let us down. he couldn't even get the website running. we need a new direction. and i want to be part that have new direction. we're going to need to blow up obamacare but you know what some we can't replace something with nothing. i want to be there and i want to work with republicans. you know, run against what americans hate about washington the most. which is the harsh partisanship. that may not work in house races but it will work in senate seats. >> you can't help what you've created. >> what do you mean? >> you can't run against rank and saying no when that is exactly what you've been doing for eight years. >> well, i'm talking about democrats right now. i would say, yes, they have done that, mika, but i'm willing to forgive them for that. gu what they could do -- because i'm a uniter and not a divider but i'm talking about if you're
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a democrat and desperately trying to hold on to your seat whether you're in louisiana, arkansas, alaska, you're going to have to distance yourself from the president. i wrote an op-ed and said in 2006 that republicans had better distance themselves from george w. bush's big spending ways and they better distance themselves from the iraq war and specifically donald rumsfeld. this they didn't do it aggressively, they were going to lose. of course, they didn't. they lost big. and the bush white house was offender offended by it. democrats find themselves eight years later in the opposite position where they are on the defensive. there are some states you don't want to distance yourself from barack obama but if you were in the seven red states that democrats have to offend, they will aggressively have to distance themselves from barack obama. halfway is not going to do it. they can bring in bill clinton if they need a democratic president to campaign with.
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there's no -- when you're in these situations, and i said it before, i'll say it again, you better go 90 miles an hour forward or your critics are going to chop you up into little pieces and where the democrats are going to be standing if they don't aggressively take care of this. >> okay. you know he what? >> 90 miles an hour, chopping at the pieces? awesome. >> david gregory, thank you very much. >> let me say this. i got to say it goes 90 miles an hour chopping the little pieces, let me tell you. that's the mindset democrats have to have right now. you're either the hunter or you're the hunted and, right now they are the hunted. if they don't aggressively take care of this problem, tuesday's election shows they are going to be facing what republicans faced in 2006 and in 2010. there are no halfway measures here. you're all in or you're all out. >> david gregory, what is coming up on "meet the press" this
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weekend? >> we are going to talk more about this with senior visor to the president and senators durbin and flake on the referendum coming up there and the obama strategy to deal with putin in ukraine. >> big news on sunday there. up next, author majo joins us from moving his family in brooklyn to his native iran. vice ben anderson will join us with his later report from rio de janeiro. and actress gillian anderson will join us on the set. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer.
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28 past the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." here with us now iranian american writer and journalist hooman majd is the author of "ministry of guidance invites
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you not to stay, an american family in iran." let's start right there. very good to have you on the show. welcome. >> thank you. >> tell us about the book and the message of the title. >> the message of the title was that, obviously, i wasn't as welcome as i thought i was going to be or i hoped i would be. >> so you were surprised? >> somewhat. although that was a very dark period in iran's post revolutionary history. the eight years of president ahmadinejad the good worse and toward the end in 2011 was probably -- >> what year did you move your family back? >> 2011. >> 2011? >> yes. >> okay. >> that a very dark period and post the 2009 uprising. the two main opposition figures had just been put under house arrest and still under house arrest today. it wasn't a good time for iran. there had been real progress both in terms of human rights
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and setbacks too but social and civil rights progress. >> you moved from brooklyn. you bring your wife and your infant son. your wife happens to be a blond yoga instructor. >> duh! >> how did that go? and tell us -- what surprised you? i don't mean to pick light of it. >> no. one should make light of it. >> all right. you can. i shouldn't. >> no, absolutely. well, i think for my wife, lao like many other americans who visited iran for the first time are quite surprised how normal it is in many ways. if you're not involved in politics and i couldn't even be a journalist there. i wasn't allowed to get a work permit. it's what you notice first it's very normal. people live pretty much the same way people live here. they have the same wants and same desires and they are very connected and not like north korea. >> young people? >> not like north korea and cuba and they are connected to the
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internet and young people travel and go abroad. other than seeing people special clothing that is one of the small things that it's small to most men but it's bigger for women. >> joe scarborough is with us. he has a question for you. joe? >> given the extraordinary culture, the extraordinary history that iran has, i understand why you would feel the draw to go back home, especially because it's home, but i know a lot of people watching have -- a lot of people watching would be asking why would you take your infant child and your wife back to tehran two years after bloody crackdowns in the street when people were being killed for simply
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protesting and saying praise be to guide from the rooftop suddenly become subversive to this regime. >> i traveled to iran several times and even post the 2009 protests. i had gone back actually once. i recognize that there really wasn't a great danger and there really isn't a great danger for foreigners or for certainly not for infants there is no great danger in iran. the one one has to be careful which i was was not fall afoul of the authorities. in other words, not do anything i wasn't supposed to. when they told me they wouldn't give me a press permit and i wasn't allowed to work, i followed those rules and state quiet and i knew that in those circumstances, it would be okay. i didn't think there was a great risk. if there was any risk it would be to me, not to my family. >> how welcome do you feel in this country? there's so much ignorance in this country. people heard the word iranian.
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those are the bad guys, the enemy. talk about being a u.s. iranian citizen and what that feels like. >> i grew up most of my life in the united states and went to schools kindergarten on 1963 in san francisco. i never felt like a stranger. >> you've never felt prejudice, bias anything in this country. >> if people asked me where i was, i said iran, people didn't really know where that was. after the hostage crisis i felt some resentment which is understandable. maybe i was lucky. >> that's great to hear. >> maybe i was lucky because i don't really have an accent and don't have the cultural baggage and didn't have a beard when i was growing up. >> now he lives in brooklyn which is the capital of tolerance and world capital of
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cool. >> yeah. no, i haven't experienced that at all. i know other people have and post-9/11, some people were mistake line some indians were for arabs and some prejudice but generally no. i don't feel that in iran either. >> hooman majd, thank you. the book is "the ministry of guidance." up next, bravely hosts the next olympics. will the country be ready for two of the largest sporting events in the world with the olympics and the world cup? keep it right here on "morning joe." ♪ pressure salesperson #1: so again, throwing in the $1,000 fuel reward card is really what makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: point is there's never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event get a great deal on a jetta tdi. it gets 42 highway miles per gallon. and get a $1,000 fuel reward card.
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janeiro for his report. joe scarborough, you take the first question with ben. >> ben, i've wanted to go to the world cup for sometime. >> i knew it. >> no. this is a critical question. we just saw what happened when you have the olympics in russia and all of the problems there. ben, i've been wanting to go to the world cup for a long time. in '06, it was great. '10 problems as far as low gistics go. i asked a pop official is it safe toing to rio to take my family to the world cup in 2014? just like that, they said no. it's not going to be safe. i'd keep my kids at home. i'd watch it on tv. how bad is it when you have officials saying stay away, it's dangerous? >> i thought the officials were going to say come. they have cleared out the areas around the stadiums and around the tourism areas, the middle clas areas but you go one mile away from that and they are controlled by drug trafficking gangs where the police have no
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prisons whatsoever and where security is provided by teenagers with saassault rifles and that is within miles of the stadiums and the big world cup olympic events. >> to follow-up on joe's question. it seems often there are world cups there are forecast of doom of this kind. people are worried, the infrastructure is not going to be ready and the safety is out of control and the world cup happens and people are pleasantly surprised things go better than expected. which of those do we think will end there with this world cup, or do you think there is a chance this could be a real mess? >> i asked them the same question. we should be scared about going to a place where there is unbelievable levels of violence there. they said, listen, business is going to be great for us. we are expecting to sell double the amount of coke we normally sell. it's in their interests. they know if they kill a policeman or a tourist that area is going to get raided and 30 of them are going to get killed.
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it's kind of an unwritten rule. >> you say the drugs might be a force for safety because they need to pacify the situation? >> okay, i feel better. >> economic interest? >> yes, right. i expect boom time there. >> i went twice and patrick and i went around an economy that is built around the villas. they have the best real estate in the lands because they are built into the oceanside with the great views. you see the cable and strings of electric wire that is so crudely put up from house and little hut to hut. the infrastructure that goes on. but the economy is run and basically on that drug trafficking, that type of money. it's their own micro world that takes place on the hillsides. >> not just the drugs but attack the electricity and pass and everything that comes in and they are making more money than that than they are from the drug trafficking. >> we look at the world cup and down the line at the olympics and they are looking at this so business tourism, tourism. i would say, joe, it's safe to
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go. we had a great experience there. but that was under a different set of circumstances being a visitor on the beach. >> it will be safe for us. if you stick to the areas. >> who is us? >> tourists. >> okay. >> and wealthy brazilians. they go looking for drugs and other stuff so they could get in trouble. >> you remember that football game, joe? >> oh, no doubt about it. yeah, you certainly can get in trouble inside stadiums. and across england if you're wearing the wrong jersey. but let's talk about brazil more generally. you're looking at the crime there. let's talk about this country that just, five years ago, we heard was going to be one of the great emerging countries just like india and we lumped in china and others. it hasn't gone as smoothly, has it, for brazil, as a lot of world economists were expecting five years ago, has it?
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>> not at all. i think the amount of money that being spent on the package and world cup stadium is rubbing people's nos in there aes in th. they are seeing there is money available for the right things but not for them. in many of the neighborhoods we went to, you know, basic services aren't there, water, sewage, just nonexistent and no plans to build them. >> having heard this entire thing and i think joe will agree with me. drugs, collusion and between the police and we are booking our tickets tonight, right, joe? >> as a man from brooklyn who understands -- any way yeah. >> "vice" returns with its second season on hbo tonight at 11:00 p.m. ben anderson, great to have you on the show and thank you very much. up next she is a dual threat on nbc starring in the hit show "hannibal." and now the new drama "crisis." all part of my binge watching this weekend.
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are you just going to ask me about my business, susie? >> that's how i do my job. >> well, you are tougher than i remember. >> it's been a long time. >> well, you're tougher than me. i'm not sure how much longer i can keep this up. not today. maybe one of us should just say it. one of us should just say the words. >> look, i know you wrote that book. "seven paths to success." and i know that clarity is one of them. so for clarity, i am here to find your daughter, amber. to find all of their kids. that is why i'm here. and i think i should question one of the other parents, okay? >> okay. adding "crisis" to my list. here with us, gillian anderson. great to have you on the show. >> can we just applaud now? woo hoo! love this woman. >> i'm actually going to add "crisis "toy the list. a lot of people are tweeting
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lillehammer and scandal once upon a time the red road, total divas. are these shows? >> they are. "hannibal" you need to add. we're going to talk about "crisis." i have to talk about "hannibal." you're fantastic. and creepy and awesome. >> she's creepy? >> they're all creepy. it's a great show and we love it in our house. congratulations. because right now the fall on bbc, you've got "crisis" coming out. and you just finished "hannibal"? >> i just finished my bit in it, yeah. >> how do you do all this? >> it's okay. it's all right. >> you'll take it. it's work. >> it is. it's work and it fits. and i still get -- i've got three kids and get to be a pretty active mom. you know, i'm on a lot of planes, but i've got a lot of things to do on planes. >> you've got a lot of scripts to read. >> how old are your kids? >> i have a 19-year-old and a 7-year-old and a 5-year-old. >> okay. yeah. >> let's applaud again. >> #awesome.
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okay. take it away. >> this is really cool to have you on to talk about "crisis." explain the character that we're seeing. this is an american businesswoman. you have not really played that type of role before. we know you from different, powerful roles but not like this. >> meg is the ceo of a multinational i.t. con gom conglomerate. she has about 300,000 employees which is unfathomable. this event happens where a bunch of high school kids, an elite high school kids get kidnapped including her son and the president's son and a bunch of other teenagers. as you would imagine, that event trickles down and causes other events to take place, but also the mastermind behind it is using the parents -- the kids as leverage to get the parents to do things to his end. so he's asking them to do things that are morally compromising. and so as you imagine for
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somebody like meg who is quite controlling in her world, when this happens and she has no control over it, things start to unravel in her world. >> she's not a sheep. and neither are the other players. and it's a deep-rooted long game, correct? >> and then you see rachel taylor who is fantastic who plays my sister. and we haven't spoken for 16 years and we're coming together now. the fbi agent. >> what are the words that can't be said? >> what are the what? >> what are the words that can't be said? >> there is something that has taken place in our past that you find out actually in the pilot what that is. but we've never spoken about it because we haven't spoken in -- >> is it horrific? >> no, it's not horrific. >> what is it? >> i can't tell you. you have to watch sunday night, 10:00, nbc. >> all right. >> hostage shows, people love. it's a great premise. it really is. it's interesting. i always, as a consumer, read the promos and i'm, like, wow, this is good. good stuff. >> you can catch the series
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premiere of "crisis" this sunday at 10:00 on nbc. i'm going to watch. am i going to find out what it is? >> you're going to find out, but then there's so much else you're going to find out. >> you're awesome. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for being on the show. up next, expanding the search. new information about the malaysian jet that went missing one week ago. we're going to dig into some of the possible scenarios of what may have happened. "morning joe" will be right back. salesperson #1: the real deal's the passat tdi clean diesel gets up to 795 highway miles per tank. salesperson #2: actually, we're throwing in a $1,000 fuel reward card. we've never done that. that's why there's never been a better time to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. husband: so it's like two deals in one? avo: during the salesperson #2: first ever exactly. volkswagen tdi clean diesel event, get a great deal on a passat tdi, that gets up to 795 highway miles per tank. and get a $1000 dollar fuel reward card. it's like two deals in one. hurry in and get a $1,000 fuel reward card and 0.9% apr for 60 months on tdi models.
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good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast as you take a live look at new york city. back with us on set, we have donny deutsch, harold ford jr. and jon meacham. it's been one week, though, since flight 370 disappeared. and sadly, we're no closer to discovering what happened to the 239 passengers and crew and the plane itself. yesterday the white house said the search and rescue operation may be expanded into the indian ocean because of new information first reported by "the wall street journal." officials now believe flight 370 remained in the air for several hours after its last communication with ground control. meaning the plane may have traveled an additional 2,200 miles. that is based off pings sent from the plane to satellites recording its speed and altitude. according to "the wall street journal," the final ping was septemb sent over water from a normal
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cruising altitude. aviation officials are still investigating the possibility that someone on the plane disabled its communications systems. abc news reports two data recording systems were shut down less than 15 minutes apart, indicating a deliberate act. joining us now, former senior air safety investigator with the national transportation safety board, greg fife. greg, first of all, is there anything we know that doesn't indicate a deliberate act? >> at this point, mika, now. it is now clear that somebody intentionally took this airplane, diverted course from beijing and basically headed the opposite direction. and now with them expanding this search area over the indian ocean, they believe that this airplane has gone further west and possibly even south only because the indian ocean has a southerly component to it. this search area is really now, with the expansion, going to be a daunting task. >> when you -- my gosh, can you
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imagine even just trying to locate which may it might have gone at this point, greg? my bigger question from 20,000 feet, if i may, is when you look at what we do know at this point, what stands out to you as important and perhaps indicating something, terrorism, hijacking, something else? i know you're supposed to keep your options open when you're trying to figure out a situation like this. but are you honed in on thinking that it might have been some sort of misdeed by somebody on board? >> i'm an accident investigator, mika, so i'm very skeptical until i see the data or i have the factual evidence. but having worked a number of accidents over the years where there was a level of intention there to do something to the airplane, especially with the silk air investigation in indonesia, to me, this really says that somebody with a level of sophistication about that airplane knew exactly what to do, knew how they were going to
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do it. it was very well calculated. and the only two people that come to mind are the captain and the first officer. i would have to believe that they're going to look at those two pilots, and they're going to look at trying to find what kind of intent. was it the fact that they -- i mean, with silk air, we had problems with this pilot. he had some issues with the airline. >> yep. >> he had some personal issues. we may have the same thing going on here except at a greater expense. >> sir, it's donnie deutsche. the search right now is over water. what are the probabilities, chances that this plane right now is on the ground someplace, these people are alive and being set up for some future act of terrorism? >> donnie, that's always a possibility. you know, the search is focused over water because if you take a westerly track, the next logical place, of course, being the indian ocean, it's a vast body of water. but let's say now the airplane
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takes a southwesterly track or even a southern track. it will go over a land mass, and, again, if it goes far enough, return over water. so this could be a very encompassing search area, but the logical place right now with the assets they have there will be the water until they get further data from any kind of downlink from the satellite. >> within the national security community and the aviation investigation community, what priority is this? and what is the level of american involvement in the investigation? >> i'm sure that this thing has escalated to one of the top two or three events as far as national security. to have an unknown like this where you have a commercial airliner with the potential, as we have seen from 9/11, i would think that this is very high on the priority list. with regard to the ntsb, the faa and boeing who are assisting the
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malaysians, they are providing the dissection of the data. we have a vast resource based on our history, as accident investigators, to really be able to dig deep into the data. even as scant as just a ping that may have a download of location, possibly altitude information. so i think that that's going to be the biggest benefit to the malaysians is for the u.s. team, the ntsb, especially the faa and boeing to assist them in really dissecting this data and try and focus or hone down that search area. >> greg, okay, if i understand correctly, there is a possibility -- i mean, it's technically possible it could have landed somewhere? >> yes, absolutely. >> and where would that be? >> i've heard a lot of that speculation. you're talking a very large aircraft that needs a very large piece of pavement to land on. and even though you may have a
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skilled pilot who is flying that airplane, the chances of them finding a piece of pavement that could handle an airplane this size and then basically making it disappear once it's on the ground, i think based on my experience, i would basically bet my reputation that it's virtually impossible. >> so, okay. last question, we'll get back to this story as we follow it throughout the morning. but in your decades with the ntsb, have you ever seen anything like this or close to it? and if you can touch on the passport issue, is that being ruled out as connected in any way? >> i think you have to look at it basically as two investigations. accident investigators that deal from like the ntsb really deal in the technical issues as it relates to the airplane. while there may be a criminal element to it and you have to work with the security folks and the criminologists who are in
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charge of dissecting that part of it, the investigators are focusing on the technical aspects. there's probably two parallel -- maybe three parallel -- investigations going on right now. the ntsb is going to try and help find the airplane. once they do find what they believe is the airplane, then they get to do the technical stuff. while the criminal folks will get into the backgrounds of these crews to see if they've got issues. silk air, we had to work hand in hand with the criminal investigators because there was a lot of personal information that was coming out about captain suh on that particular airplane that took us in a direction that we were able to determine, basically, all the information that this was an intentional act, it was precalculated, preplanned because captain suh took the airplane down in an area where there was no radar coverage. and i have to think here that this person was very calculated and may have gone through a path of least resistance. if i'm trying not to be tracked, i turn off the transponders, and i fly to an area that doesn't
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have any radar coverage. and i stay in that area so that nobody can track me. either militarily or with civilian radar. >> frightening. greg feith, thank you very much. the only thing when you look at act of terrorism, they try and claim responsibility to sort of make more of it or it just seems out of step with the pattern, unless i'm missing something. >> what i was happy to hear, relieved to hear, greg said because one of the theories circulating was that it had landed and that this plane was going to be used for a next act of terrorism. he seems to think that's just highly unlikely. >> all right. we've got a lot to get to. nearly four years after an explosion on the deepwater horizon oil rig that killed 11 workers and caused the largest spill in history, the federal government is once again opening its doors to bp in the gulf of mexico. the environmental protection agency agreed to lift a ban keeping bp from bidding on gas leases in federal waters.
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bp will also be allowed to once again hold government contracts. previously the company was one of the largest fuel suppliers for the military. critics of the government's move say it's too soon to reward the oil giant. one consumer rights add slow group called it, quote, prematu premature, lets a corporate felon and repeat offender off the hook for its crimes against people and the environment. this is a company that was on criminal probation, and it has failed to prove that it is a responsible contractor deserving of lucrative taxpayer deals. and while the environment and the economies along the gulf coast have paid dearly for bp's mistake, so has the company itself. bp set aside $42.7 billion to cover costs of cleanup, compensation and other fines. that includes $4.5 billion to settle a criminal case with the justice department, an estimated $9.2 billion in private
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settlements and a possible $18 billion in potential clean water act penalties. the lift of the ban is coming at the right time for bp as the next auction for gas leases in the gulf comes on wednesday. you know, they've worked very hard, donnie, to rebrand themselves. you've seen the commercials. you've heard the messaging. is it too soon, though? >> i always -- you want to really evaluate, is their brand okay? and if anybody at this table is driving down route 22 and you saw bp, would you not go in at this point? i think the answer is no. it was a horrible mistake. they've paid for it dearly. one could argue that it might be the safest place right now because of all the checks and balances in place. consumers have the ability to forgive. time goes by. and if they continue to act appropriately, i think their grand is okay. >> i think they should be required to do something before
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to get any government deals to show that they're constantly giving back because an entire generation of business was decimated by the spill. >> $43 billion is a lot of money. i think that to donnie's point, not only do i think they may be the safest, but we ought to require the other companies to do what they're doing. >> yeah. >> rahm emanuel and some others have come up with some ideas about those who want more drilling. and i happen to be in that class of people, that group of folks. i think that some of these companies ought to put aside money in advance for what may happen or what could happen. and perhaps these are the proactive steps that might asuede some of the concerns expressed by these consumer advocacy groups. i'm not concerned at all. i think the government has put the right checks and balances in place. i've been impressed with the way bp has handled this. i'd be curious to know donnie's opinion substantively how they have responded to this. >> they have done the playbook. they cannot undo it. they have done everything
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corporately responsible intelligently and from a pr point of view. >> we'll see what kind of contracts they get. >> they've got to earn them now. it's not like they're just given them. they've got to earn them. >> i know. let's move to politics now. while david jolly was being sworn in jed as the newest congressman from florida, nancy pelosi applauded democrat alex sink's effort, dispute falling short in the special election. and though the race has been framed by many as a test case for obamacare's impact on midterms, pelosi had a warning for republicans who tried to campaign against the health law. >> i think that the republicans are wasting their time using that as their electoral issue, and they will find that out. i think that our candidate, alex sink, she's so excellent, so supe superb, and she said it just right. there are many good things about the affordable care act that are good for the health and well-being of the american people. there are some things that need
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to be fixed. let's do that. and that is the message of our members. >> well, and that is -- certainly we were talking about this yesterday in washington. the message has got to be positive. they certainly have a lot of red meat to work with, republicans, in terms of using obamacare as an election issue. polls show that people are impacted by this and have a negative view in some ways. but they need to turn a negative into a positive, and repeal might be too far. >> but i don't think the jolly guy talked about that. he talked -- i don't think he talked about repeal as incessantly some of the republicans in washington have. >> exactly. that's my point. >> no, no, joe had it right yesterday. i think the group obviously most worried about this are some of these u.s. democratic senators who may look safe today, but now there's a playbook that can be used against them. i'm for all of them, and i would urge a lot of them, particularly those up for re-election, they ought to craft a piece of legislation themselves. i think alex sink had the right message. you've got to fix instead of repeal. but they have to have something substantive --
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>> i think republicans need that message, too. >> i don't. >> no? repeal. >> well, jolly didn't run that way. >> right. >> republicans, if i'm sitting there advising republican in a tough race, i'm saying you're going to take the jolly playbook. if you're a democrat, you'd better figure out a way to show the three things we need to change and bring it before the senate so they can go home and tangibly say not only am i urging the president, i have put something on his desk. otherwise i fear my party's going to have a big, big challenge in november. >> that's a tactic. you're still basically acknowledging that something is not right. it's a complicated message versus the republicans -- look, throughout history, we are swinging back and forth, more government, less government. this is the ultimate too much government message by the republicans. this is a harbinger of things to come. i know you guys talked a lot about it yesterday. the senate is in play. it is a simple message. the government wants in your face. they want in your pockets. obamacare is not working. your point, the democrats taking the ball and go, well, is almost feeding into that message.
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i don't know what else i would do. >> i don't know what the alternative is. you've got to put something for the president to sign. otherwise we've got a big, big problem. >> go ahead, john. >> remember, midterm elections can be more single issue drivey. >> no doubt about it. >> because people like harold are out there voting, so the base is more easily motivated, it seems to me intuitively in a midterm election. but i think the repeal argument's been dead since the day john roberts ruled. >> i agree. >> i think we should think back on this. that became part of the fabric of the country when the supreme court -- >> they don't have to go that route. >> and jolly didn't. he didn't talk about repealing either. anyway. i just think there's lessons to be learned. >> that's my point. i wonder if -- it's not when you have sweeping legislation that no other president could get through, and you have a republican party that tried to kill it every step of the way and i think have even gotten a
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reputation for being the no party. at this point during the midterms and moving forward toward 2016, jon meacham, isn't the opportunity for the republican party to come up with some sort of positive message where obamacare, we didn't agree with it, and it's not working very well. and so we need to help now the country move forward with legislation that at least might help this work better for people. >> i think from a public policy perspective, that's unquestionable. >> yeah. >> nobody looks at the health care system and says boy, that's really working great. you know, we need to do more of that. but as a purely political tactical matter, to use donnie's phrase, it's easier to run against something than to run for fixing something. there are two places to run. you run to give somebody something, or you run to -- >> the argue to get rid of it is backed up by you don't want health care. >> the party of it's broken. >> okay, but it could actually
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be working. it is early days. >> exactly. >> still facts could get in the way of that argument. >> exactly. >> facts already have. >> what would you advise -- i hear you, this is a complicated political equation. what would you advise democrats to do? i'm just trying to figure out if i'm advising my party, which i want to be able to do -- >> a better alternative or alternative fixes and move on with a positive message with a unified party, with a unified leader -- >> i would do a double negative. >> who is inspiring. >> i would do a double negative. i would take all of the republicans -- once again, they are the party of no. >> right. >> underneath the koch brothers, i think chris matthews talked about this yesterday and i agree with him, that basically this is one more example they don't have an answer. all they want to do is take dumps everywhere and basically kind of do a double negative on the negative. >> i think alex sink, who is a terrific candidate who had run statewide before who had won that area before, i think she tried a little of that. i happen to think the law is going to work, but we face a two to four-year challenge that's going to take fixes that
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politically is perilous for the party. that's the only point i'm making. i may have the wrong answer, but what we're doing now ain't working. later, arianna huffington and the founder and ceo of donors choose, charles best. and up next, we check in with "politico's" mike allen. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast you are just not going to want to hear. >> no. you want to hear the first part and then run away because on monday we could be dealing with another snowstorm throughout portions of the country. so let's talk about the good first. yesterday was a beautiful spring day. all of the west throughout the middle of the nation. we were 68 in kansas city. that's like shorts and golfing-type weather. but it was still very cold in the great lakes and the northeast. now, a lot of that warm air is starting to surge that way. so get ready for a big warm-up today after a very cold start. it's going to be a nice afternoon today in the great lakes all the way up through new england. especially the winds will be a lot lighter than they have been over the last 48 hours. right now it's already 40 in chicago.
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so we're starting to melt a little bit of that snow. now, as we go through friday afternoon, lunch outdoors in d.c. why not? atlanta looks pretty good, too. but as we go to the weekend, another shot of cold air comes down from the great lakes from the northeast. at the same time a big rainmaker in the southeast, i also probably should mention the dry drought weather continuing in california. but it's when these two systems merge sunday night into monday into st. paddy's day, the northern edge looks like another snow event. anywhere from the southern ohio valley all the way through the mid-atlantic including d.c., philly and new york city. i mean, it could be one of the coldest new york city st. paddy's day parades with snow we've seen in many years. let's hope not. let's hope i'm completely wrong. i don't think so. you're watching "morning joe." [ female announcer ] birdhouse plans. nacho pans.
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look at thomas roberts. we're going to talk about something later with him. i still haven't been able to catch up about you know who. yeah. all right. oh. a gift for me? bring it right now. i need a gift. it better not be those cookies. if it is those cookies, you're in trouble. are those those cookies? >> no. wait, wait, wait. no, no, no. this is from austin to you. >> oh! oh. it's a little small. >> i'll wear that. >> what are you thinking? extra small? really? >> no, look at the tag. i thought you'd be mad. >> that's kind of expensive.
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>> it's an xl? >> yeah. they told me at the store. >> that's a $30 t-shirt. >> that's an xl in 1962 before the obesity crisis. >> there's some other things in there for you, too. >> you're so sweet. >> bumper sticker. >> i like texas women. i like that. that's going on my truck. >> i got you this for your new phone to play your music. >> next block you're sitting with us. and i'm going to go through my presents. i love it. i need more. okay, thank you, thomas. you're dismissed for now. donnie, will you help we many papers? >> i will do anything you ask me. >> look at this. i got good stuff. all right. let's take a look at the "morning papers." we're going to start with "the new york times." actually, this is horrific. as the number -- the death toll doubled in a matter of 24 hours. the death toll is up to eight after another victim was found yesterday afternoon. first responders are using high-tech video cameras and sound equipment to locate anyone who may be trapped in the rubble. the search is about halfway
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complete. unbelievable. donnie. "washington post." the federal government is vowing an aggressive investigation into why general motors waited so long to announce a recall of its troubled models. independent consumer watchdog group says that more than 300 people died after air bags failed to deploy. gm has only linked 12 deaths to a faulty ignition show. documents show it was aware as early as 2001. >> okay, that number is confirmed? that's pretty devastating. we'll follow that. "the san francisco chronicle," facebook founder mark zuckerberg says he has made it clear to president obama during a phone conversation that he doesn't like the surveillance programs of the nsa. he called the president? wait a minute. >> harold does that all the time. >> yeah. >> with that kind of conversation. >> this comes after reports that the nsa uses a system to hack millions of computers and pose as facebook to install spying software. i guess they had the right to. zuckerberg, he's just so young.
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zuckerberg took to facebook to complain saying the u.s. government should be the champion for the internet, not a threat, and he does have a point. donnie. "times standard," convenience stores across the nation are moving to crack down on the sales of e-cigarettes to minors. >> i don't get this. oh, to minors. >> they issued new regulations requiring employees to card anyone purchasing the electronic cigarettes. the move is an attempt to impose restrictions on the largely unregulated business. >> interesting. in this weekend's "parade," an up-close interview with the stars of the hit tv show "shark tank." >> yes, it's a show. >> okay. it is? is it a hit show? >> yeah, cnbc show, business show. >> it's actually an abc show that now they re-run on cnbc. >> i watched a re-run. >> i need to get with the program, obviously. "shark tank"? >> it's an entrepreneur show. it's a mark burnett. basically entrepreneurs present their ideas to business leaders.
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it's interesting. >> i like it. okay, i'll check it out. with us now, chief white house correspondent for "politico." >> that's a lie. >> that i'll check it out? i'm going to try. no, do you know what? my 40 days of lent is to give up being unpop cultured and to try and integrate with society. and my daughters are helping me. i watched a show called "revenge" last night with my daughter. >> oh. >> yep. >> i got a better one for you. "scandal." >> i watched "scandal" with her. i watched "scandal" with her in her room on the computer the other day. i'm really -- this is my thing. >> so this is a lenten discipline where you're taking on something. >> i am taking on and giving up being clueless. >> that's good. it's the second sunday. you have a little bit to go. >> i know. wish me luck. >> there's a lot of work to be done. >> i'm going to watch "orange is the new black." and what are some of these shows that you all are obsessed with? >> "sons of anarchy." >> number one. >> "the wire." >> "the wire." >> they're similar.
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>> "sons of anarchy" is basically "sopranos." >> help me be unpop cultured and in touch with america. nanu nanu. >> wow! all right. mike allen, you could help me out as well. i'm going to keep a roster. but let's talk politics. it looks like scott brown may indeed run for senate in new hampshire? what are the signs that you're hearing? >> well, mika, yes, but first things first, happy friday! >> what? yes! we need that. >> so scott brown who, when he was running for senate in massachusetts, was famous for his trek. i think he might fight you for your bumper sticker, mika. today he's going to announce an exploratory committee in new hampshire. he lost in massachusetts. he says well, i'll just go across the border. so mika, this suddenly becomes one of the most fascinating races in the country. he's taking on the democrat jeanne shaheen. she starts as the front-runner,
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no question. this is a purple state, but it's another purple state where republicans have a real chance. the newsweek after week has been good for republicans in the senate race. national republicans are very excited to see scott brown jumping in. he's making this announcement at 4:30 at a big leadership conference up there. he started to reach out to staff. real telltale sign, the union leader up there reported they've started sending checks to the republican party up there. and again, we're seeing the power of the outside groups, mika. on tuesday, american crossroads, the biggest of the republican outside groups, is starting a $600,000 statewide buy for scott brown, and as you know, can you buy a lot of tv for $600,000 in new hampshire. >> okay, this is getting interesting. "politico's" mike allen, thank you very much. have a great weekend. happy friday. up next, helping classrooms get the tools they need to succeed. arianna huffington and charles best join us next.
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other day. and they said have you ever done an interview in bed? and i said many. they didn't believe me. >> there's photographic evidence. >> it happens. with arianna huffington, anything can happen. joining us now, arianna huffington. her new book "thrive: the third metric to redefining success and creating a life of well-being, wisdom and wonder" is out on march 25th. this book is amazing. i've read it cover to cover because i got a sneak peek. and it will change your life. for the better. it's changing mine. also at the table, charles best, the founder and ceo of donorschoose.org. they are here today to talk about a very special partnership to help students across the country. and i learned a new word, and i want to be one. i want to be a microphilanthropist. is that possible, charles? >> indeed, if you have $1 to spare, you can choose a classroom need that you want to helpful fill at our website. and if you preorder "thrive," you can be a microphilanthropist to the tune of $26. >> ooh, i love that. are you serious? >> indeed.
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>> so you buy arianna's book before it comes out, and what happens? >> that's right. before march 25th -- i think of this as satisfaction guaranteed and your money back to help a classroom in need. >> arianna, that's really cool. that's really nice. >> well, because giving is such a big part of the book, you know, what the book shows is that there is now that science that proves that a shortcut to our happiness is giving. and, of course, this is the essence of what charles has created with donors choose. so i wanted to combine getting the book out with actually living by the theme of the book. and so anybody who preorders it gets a $26 gift card to spend it in any of the amazing classroom projects. >> thomas roberts, you love giving gifts, as i do. >> i do. i mean, obviously -- >> would you like to be a microphilanthropist? >> i would love to be a microphilanthropist. >> get a copy of "thrive," and then maybe you and i do something more in a classroom. i this i that would be fun. >> it's always better to give than receive.
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and there is a great full i willment in service. >> it's so joyful. >> when you're doing something that has impact. one thing in the book that you write about, arianna, is trying to disconnect a little bit, to reconnect with our loved ones. talk about the double-edged sword that the convenience of technology gives to us, but at the same time, thwarts the connectivity that we have on a personal level. >> well, that's why, you know, what donors choose is doing is kind of unique. it's like the best of technology. it's using technology to help us reconnect with people in need. you know, all the classrooms in america that need sometimes very basic supplies like books and pencils and glue. and this is kind of the best use of technology. i mean, there are many ways in which technology is helping us disconnect, as you said, from our loved ones and ourselves. but in this case, it reconnects with something very important. and charles started it when he was a teacher himself. >> you wanted to address education inequality. and you're actually doing
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something about it. tell us about the concept and what inspired it? >> we're trying -- i was a history teacher at a public high school in the bronx for five years. and my colleagues and i would spend a lot of our own money on school supplies. and we would talk about books that we wanted our students to read, a field trip we wanted to take them on. and i just figured there were people out there who would want to help teachers like us if they could see where their money was going. and donorschoose.org was born. >> it's brilliant. absolutely brilliant. i love it. and now we morph the conversation from donors choose, which is going to be a part of "thrive," not just your book, but entire movement, that we're going to try and start together. >> right. >> and we're starting with a conference in new york. and it's really for everybody. i wanted to focus on women, but it's not. and in this day and age, we're all surviving. that's great. and some women are breaking glass ceilings. others are struggling to survive. but the word "thrive," to get from surviving to thriving and being more effective for a long period of time involves the
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tenants that we're talking about. >> right, and bringing the joy back into our daily lives rather than seeing everything as a drudgery, getting through our to-do list. and charles is going to be speaking at our conference. >> thank you. >> on april 28th. and basically, again, making these links between giving and thriving, which we have so much science now to validate. >> april 25th in new york city. thom thomas, will you come? >> absolutely, yeah. >> okay. >> i'd love to. >> i actually think you thrive, but you and patrick should come and talk about well-being, wisdom, wonderment, what's the fourth? >> giving. >> giving. >> i'm still working on wisdom. >> did you tell them there will be a bed on stage? >> we're going to have a bed on stage. and we're going to be doing things in bed -- >> i'm there. >> -- how to sleep your way to the top. is that a tease? because it's the truth. i mean, you can take it any way you want. we're going to have a lot of fun. comedians. we're going to learn how to relax, learn how to be more effective, learn how to be more
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competitive in the ways that make your life more fulfilling and also more giving to others. it's something that sounds on the surface like something you don't have time for. >> yeah. >> or it can be the central focus of your life and make everything better for the people around you. >> and you talk about putting a bed on stage. power napping is super important. >> oh, i don't think we're going to be napping. >> you have the nap eggs, right? >> we have two nap rooms, yes. >> we're also going to have three two-ton sculptures on stage. and about 30 feet tall. >> i have a feeling your mother is involved? >> yeah. there's a chainsaw involved, an ax and some very, very, very important pieces of wisdom from a woman who's in her 80s but can operate a chainsaw better than the rest of us. >> that's thriving. >> and it's going to be for a marketing campaign for steel chainsaws. real people. i'm just going to say the rest is steel people including my mother who is like the most
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phenomenal woman you'll ever meet. we're going to meet so many phenomenal women on april 25th in new york. right, arianna? >> you'll be there, and charles just promised he will be there. >> charles, you promise? >> i do. >> all right, fine. donorschoose.org. i really, really appreciate what you're doing. i'm adopting a classroom. and i'm going to become a microphilanthropist is long with thomas roberts. >> it's like kick start when you think about it and how much we love to see art born to life. this is just like that. and we get to see tangibly how our money is spent. >> donors choose fulfills every project themselves. so they actually will buy the books, the yoga supplies or whatever it is that you are paying for. and deliver them to the classroom. you know where every dollar is going. >> it's called taking a platform, whether it be a book, show or concept and doing something good with it. that's what we're trying to do here. arianna huffington, charles best, thank you so much. buy her book before march 25th
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what is so interesting about international financial markets as the world becomes more and more integrated, you know, you have diplomats who talk and talk and talk. but ultimately we've seen they don't have a lot of real tools they can use to push putin back or to punish putin. however, capital markets can punish him very quickly, and they have, taking billions and billions of dollars. so he's, we believe, an incredibly wealthy man, perhaps the wealthiest man in the world at this point. nobody really knows for sure. the question is whether or not the pain that's being inflicted on the financial markets over there is going to be something that makes him think twice. we know it certainly hurts his inner circle, the oligarchs in the country. in light of what's happening with investors who are basically saying, vladimir putin, you want to prosecutor a war, that's fine, but it's not going to be on our dime. >> and we know how much he valuables where the rouble is on the international stage. china, the concern and u.s.
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markets, a little more concern about that? >> yeah, certainly because we have seen a lot of weakening data out of china. and china's also made some interesting choices lately. you know, we talk about too big to fail in the united states. well, in china, everything was too big to fail, too little to fail. they bailed out everything. in the last week or so, they've made some signs that suggest that's not going to happen anymore. they actually let a corporate bond default. it was the first time in history. not because chinese corporations normally pay everybody back, but because there are bailouts. if that's going to change, that's ultimate i will a good thing for china, but the ripple effect is probably going to be somewhat painful in the meantime. >> cnbc's michelle caru caruso-cabre caruso-cabrera, great to see you. up next, muhammad ali, joe frazier, mike tyson and louis bergdorf? oh, yeah, baby. our very own special boxing correspondent preps to go one on one with the one and only sly stallone at rocky's broadway debut. how does louis match up? keep it locked into "morning joe."
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>> he eyed up your earlobe? >> yeah, and he was licking his chops. one of hollywood's most iconic movie franchises, "rocky" -- what? what, heilman? >> i know there's a louis package coming and i'm starting to brace for it. >> no, this is the deal. >> i'm excited. >> from what i've seen so far, he's so annoying in it, but it's also good. >> i like boxing. i like boxing movies. i don't like louis at all. i don't know how this is going to work out. >> i'm thinking spanx are due. >> i love "rocky." he does such a good job. >> stop skising inkissing up. >> "rocky" is gating a makeover. our own louis was there with an exclusive backstage pass. >> yo, adrian, i did it! ♪ >> with a legacy spanning four
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decades, the "rocky" franchise has found a home on broadway. how does it feel that it's now on broadway? did you ever expect this? >> it's exciting. it's people surviving. everybody's standing up. that's what it's about. >> if i could just unzip myself and step out and be someone else, i'd want to be you. you're our heart, rock. >> did you ever expect it was going to be here on broadway? >> no, i never thought it would get past 1977. i really didn't. it was one of those minor miracles that i can't put my finger on. >> reporter: these are big shoes to fill. you've got sly stallone here tonight. how are you feeling about it? >> i'm feeling great. we've been talking back and forth, me and stallone, this is crazy for me to say that. >> reporter: yeah, you and stallone just palling around. how do you feel about someone else up there playing the part? >> you know, at first, it was surreal. and then i go, am i jealous?
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i said, no. because he's doing it in his own original way. and then i thought, what a miracle that a guy that was maybe 2 years old when the first one came out is carrying it on. and then i became incredibly proud like a fehr. >> he's been very supportive. use also helped me out with fighting tips, throwing from the shoulders, that kind of stuff. >> whatever i was feeling at that time, i just put it in the body of a boxer. a lot of people identify with. and i think it's frustration that everyone can't be a champion. i don't think everyone expects to be the number one. but they want the opportunity to try to be number one. >> adrian! >> rocky! >> adrian! >> rocky! >> hey. >> i love you! >> also there's a beautiful cinderella story. it's like rocky and adrian find each other, and they both have the opportunity to blossom and grow. and through finding each other, he can, like, go the distance. >> yo, adrian! we did it! >> it's just as simple and just as honest and beautiful. there are no dancing boxers.
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it's like this sporting event and spectacle and intimate drama all kind of rolled into one. >> reporter: now, you ever go to philly and run the steps, go back there, relive some of it? >> i've had people carry me up them. >> reporter: i don't think so. ♪ fly ♪ fly >> "rocky." that was good. i liked it. >> you know what the best part of that was? the part relatively early where louis got floored. he went flat down. >> here's the great thing. louis takes his work very seriously. he does not take himself too seriously. that's the sign of a great star. >> why does he keep going like this? check out "rocky." up next, what, if anything, did we learn today? >> you need a mirror. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month?
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