takes a seat at the head of the table. the search and rescue for missing malaysia flight 370 is now in its second week. there's still month sign of the 250-ton plane or 239 people who were onboard, including three americans. potential much area keeps growing because it has to. the malaysian government is refusing to confirm anything. frustrating families and other governments trying that are trying to help in the search. within the last hour, we learned american scientists are depunking a theory the plane crashed near where it last contacted civilian air traffic control. the u.s. geological survey says the seismic event was motto during, not caused by crash. that leaves one major theory to pursue.

the plane deliberately changed course. that's based on reports the malaysian military spot ad radar blip possibly the plane moving towards the malacca strait. the reuters news agency says whoever was navigating the jet. it sent automatic pings for four hours after it vanished. hundreds of miles west to widen the search. tom costello is back again. more than a week and the search area just keeps growing. any sign, any hope of finding this thing? >> well, it is unprecedented and certain there is always hope and as you mentioned the focus right now is in an area north of the malacca straits. let's go to the map and let me show you here. the thinking here is that this plane now moved in this way in this direction. all the way up here into this area with these islands here. this is part of the bay of

bengal and indian ocean. so now this is india. india sending its navy in here on search and the u.s. navy is also searching in this area. x marks the spot right about there. the challenge is, though, this is a vast body of water and the americans are searching in this area more or less and the indians are coming in from this direction. if this plane did, in fact, hit some wave points and come in this direction like this, then trying to track it, looking for wreckage is like looking for a need until a haystack. this is a very, vast area of ocean. what will they be looking for? we only have the united states -- united states has one destroyer there and one aircraft in that area as well. searching that vast area. they are going to be looking for any sign of debris on the water surface. it has been a week since the plane went down. if any debris is spotted, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's where the plane went down because the ocean's currents

have taken this debris in theory and it could be washation shore anywhere along that entire coast. let's go back to the map. look at the size of the coast here we are looking at. entire region here, you have thailand and you have burma and you have bangladesh and india and all of this entire area here is a massive shoreline. so to try to decide if something washes ashore there to -- to determine where it came from, what was the direction or location of the plane crash, would be a very big challenge indeed. so the -- biggest challenge will be are if the -- if it washes ashore, then trying to pin point the wreckage, then trying to find the black boxes. and here is what's important about the black boxes. they will hold the clue as to what happen. cockpit voice recorder only contains the last two hours of what was said in the cockpit. so if they have been flying for four to five hours whatever happened back at the original point where they made the u-turn, whatever happened to the cockpit, between won't know because they have been flying

for another four, five hours and that portion of the recording has been erased. as for the plight data recorder, that should hold the last 24 hours of plane performance data. so that will give as you sense of what happened with the airplane but what happened on the flight deck, we may not know. >> tom costello, as usual, fantastic work on this story. thank you so much for being with us. let's bring in tom powder, former director of aviation safety at the ntsb. listening to u.s. intel there seems to be two ways plight 370 kept flying for four, five hours. either another person, someone from the back of the plane, came in and hijacked the plane or maybe one of the two pilots or perhaps both of the two pilots decided that they were going to hijack their own plane and go off in another direction. do you put any credence in either of these theories? >> there is not enough data to put credence in any theory. you can also make the theory that something happens to the aircraft, there was some type of catastrophic event and the crew

dialed in a new heading to try on get back and overcome and the airplanek airplane kept going. there are lots of possibility. >> we are trying to unpack the evidence. we hear about two transmissions. the froonsders that were reportedly shut off and kevin tibbles has a demo that inside the plight simulator. take a look. >> this little section of the cockpit down here, had is referred to as the transponder. it lets the people on the ground know where plane is. this apparently was not working. >> as you know the second transmission is under review here are the automatic pings. first reported by "the wall street journal." referred to as a handshake. could that still happen if the plane was under water and what are the chances that both of the transponders did turn off without someone physically

shutting them off? >> we have some cases of electrical events that have shut off the transponders and communications. that has happened. once the aircraft sunday water, of course, electricals stop and all this transmissions from anything would end. the pings for several hours afterwards, i'm not sure where exactly that's coming from. i heard a variety of sources. i think that the real key to this is the analysis that's going on right now of all of the radar data, looking at the primary data from all of the countries, all the sources, and trying to track where this airplane went. and i believe based on statements and by their moving assets over to the western side, they have a better idea that -- that's why they are refocusing their search efforts. >> let's talk about this search area because if the plane continues traveling four to five hours after it lost contact, we are talking about a potential search area five times the size

of the united states. where do you even begin? >> it is huge. it is a daunt task. to think of air france 447, south atlantic, that was a massive search. they found wreckage within a few days. still took a long time to find the actual where the airplane was and under water. what you do is tray to work the data as best you can and to the last known spot and go from there. as mentioned before, the wreckage should start washing up on beaches somewhere. once you start fishermen finding things, now you can work the tides and currents and work backwards. and hope reply start to pinpoint down an area to focus here in searching. it takes time. this is a very difficult process one of the things that people have been wondering is that is it at all possible that the plane landed some where? with your expertise could a huge plane like this have landed

anywhere undetected? >> i find it unlikely given the size of the airplane. once it landed, with all the people onboard and everything else. people get their cell phones ask start talking. that just seems very unlikely to me. i think that would have been picked up. >> are you surprised that nothing has come up to shore? no piece of the plane. we found nothing at this point. if weepd up seeing a piece of this plane, how long until you actually can make a connection that it was actually part of that flight? >> given the size of the ocean in that area i'm not terribly surprised. it is a huge body of water. once pieces are found most of the pieces on the product have -- marks on them as codes for parts -- whatever part it is. once you get a piece, start identifying it, then you can start putting together fairly quickly. >> the further we get away from the actual disappearance, does it make it harder to search? do we sort of lose the trail? are there clues we could be

missing? do we have sort of -- as good chance of finding it now as we did when it happened? >> well, i think we have a better chance now. before they did the correct thing, they looked for the airplane expected to be. now with better data, they refocused their efforts to the west. but once again, it is a huge area. and how far do you go? so there's a lot of calculations to be done. i'm certain the boeing technicians are hemming on this and will help narrow it down, what's the real range and take all the day that together. it is going to take time. that's the issue. >> tom, is there some search tactic that they are not doing that you would like to see them add to what they are doing? >> none that i know of. obviously i'm not wrecking the ball in the search. my understand sing pulling it all -- pulling in all of the radar data and surveillance data from every country around there, they can get their hands on, they are examining it, it takes a long time to take the pieces

and coordinate them and work the work together. even the united states have trouble the radar from one facility is not on the same clock as another. so just getting all of the clocks synchronized and all of the geography put together, that takes time. here you are not just working one country's radar system. you are working multiple country systems and they have military radar systems and getting all of that data into one spot and getting it into a format that the -- investigators can go through and that is very time consuming. >> all right. thank you very much. up next, what a week. so much news. so much in politics. we are not done yet. "the cycle" rolls on. it is friday, march 14. salesperson #1: so again, throwing in the $1,000 fuel reward card

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it has been quite a week in washington. election numbers spin. the new spying else about the cia from one of its staunchest allies. l they agreed to some kind of plan to move forward on this battle we have been reporting on. the details are still murky. cia chief john brennan continues to deny any wrongdoing about hacking into committee computers. buried in the accusations of den style a reality that this is not as much about come pooher hacking or document searches than it is about what was in them. evidence of torture. feinstein recounted only after the cia learned that her senate staff found incriminating internal cia notes about torture did the cia begin looking into her investigation and that is the broader context of what the cia is alleged to have been after, whether the official

record in history on torture will ever be really documented or whether it will continue to be covered up. here to discuss this story and all of the week in politics is senior editor at "the new yorker." welcome. you have been writing about this, senator feinstein's clash and the history here for years. you, in fact, interviewed jose rodriguez who was the cia official that had 292 videotapes of this alleged torture destroyed. how does that bring us up to date today? >> feinstein talks about the asking you of those tapes earlier this week. pinpointed that as where this process began. basically the cia, even though there were court orders, were asking for this -- >> mandating it. not only didn't tell the senate they had it. they destroyed them. unilaterally. when they knew they shouldn't. now the senate was a little angry about this. the head of the cia at the time said don't worry.

we have notes on what was in the videotapes. they said let's see. she says had is when the whole process leading to the classified report started. when the staff read those notes, which they might not have ever read if they hadn't been so angry about the videotapes being destroyed, they were shocked by what they saw. then the committee decided to go forward with this -- became a multiyear investigation. they asked the cia for, you know, give us what you have got. the cia gave them what feinstein in her speech called a document, 6 million pages worth of documents. they sat down and that's were in a separate facility. supposedly on a computer system the cia was not also looking in but segregated from the rest of the cia's system. they just started reading. they started going through them. she says that they found within the 6 million pages that they found what they are calling the panetta review. that was basically like the

cia's note to self. this is what's in the zok manies and this is why they are bad. and they saw those and printed they out and sometime -- in this process some strange things started happening. the committee stopped noticing documents they knew they had because they printed them out. disappeared from the computer system. they complained about this and they were told it would stop. they put out their report, 6300 pages. still classified. we haven't seen it. the cia has seen it. now, the cia had a couple of choices at this point. they, you know, they have really a bye after obama came in. he decided he would not pursue prosecutions and pretty much all they had to do was say we learned things. we are sorry. we have it. when they saw the draft of this report, we don't know exactly why because we haven't seen it, they fought back. they are like this is unfair. the judgments are wrong. the facts are wrong.

>> right. i was telling krystal, it would have been a two-day story. >> absolutely right. >> from the political perfect sfektive this is revealed -- has reveal ad rift within the democratic caucus that has been problematic for them as well. >> absolutely. obama is thinking that sort of the cia was kind of with the program, john brennan, who had been a cia official at that time, was his adviser in the white house, now the director of the cia, and now when he and the rest of the cia pushed back against the report, in an open session, senator udall said it is a little weird you are saying that the report is wrong because weigh have your notes that panetta report -- the same -- has the same assessment of the documents. another point the cia could have said, all right, we are just going to move forward and no prosecutions but clarity. instead they reacted by saying, you know, there's some security breach you guys even have had. you never should have. pine stein says maybe you didn't

realize thaw gave us the papers in the 6 million pages but he did. and we didn't steal them. we didn't hack them. you zbaf them to us. >> krystal mention it is divide on the front around this. there seems to be this opening to for republicans, chances of them taking the senate are going up and they are put, forth good candidates in states like colorado and michigan and maybe new hampshire if brown runs which are democratically held states. are they going to seize this opportunity or shoot themselves in foot by electing more candidates like states in georgia, north carolina, mississippi. >> that opening closes. on the national security thing the danger for the democrats is that they are -- p they get the feeling the candidates are all the same, that's an opening for republicans. >> i mean, it seems to be some

divide on that. the republicans and democrats are both divided and some folks say we have to make a change and some folks that say this is just the way that business is done now. but all these races that have -- referring to, are interconnected and people often think of georgia is doing had and colorado is doing that. they are interconnected in terms of what donors can do and national party can do. when scott brown comes to new hampshire, the democrats have to spend more there. can't spend as much in colorado. mitch mcconnell having a rough time in kentucky, that means he can't go around as much and campaign for others. all of these races are interconnected financially. >> it is also -- really interesting what he said about interconnection because with so much outside money in the campaign, there's -- more and more a sense of what those organizations messages are and trying to have some uniform. saying one thing in one place and one thing in another place. so that becomes important as well. >> all right. amy davidson on the week in

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>> we are back to get caught up on stories. the blade runner murder trial wrapped up this week with new evidence the crime scene may have been contaminated. a police official described events at that time home of oscar pistorius the might he shot and killed his girlfriend. his anger when the officer picked up the weapon without wearing gloves. a watch that went miss prosecuting the crime scene casting doubt on the credibility of the police. to the storm cycle. st. patrick's day is known for a day for grief. this year the dominant color may be white. after a weekend of milder temperatures for so many of us

who have been suffering through a brutal winter the cold weather returns on sunday night along with potentially severe inches of snow from the mid atlantic right up to the eastern seaboard. so much for the luck of the irish. unless, of course, your wish was for snow. >> that sounds cold. i have to ask you, did you know that today was national pi day. >> i do now. not pizza or apple. but one of the most recognized math equations in the world. the number is, of course, the ratio of a circled circumference to diameter. if you calculate that it is always 3.14. always. today is also albert einstein's birthday. >> happy birthday to him. speaking of number, let's turn now to a market alert. stocks have been wavering all day today after their worst day in a month on thursday. investors are jittery over what's happening in crimea. the vote is less than two days away and the world continues to warn russia and the people of crimea we will not recognize the

results. secretary of state john kerry met with the russian foreign minister for five hours this morning in london. and had this to say afterwards. >> if russia does establish facts on the ground that inthat increase tensions or letten the ukrainian people, are will be costs. >> they have been performing military drills. back at the white house president obama met with ireland's prime minister ahead of st. patrick's day with both leaders. luck on their side in defusing the escalating situation. >> ireland has been a strong voice in the council for the need to send a clear message of support for the ukrainian democracy and self-determination. and a strong message to russia that it should not violate the

integrity and off earnty of its neighbor. >> what remains unclear still are the detail of those consequences and as we have seen here with our own economy, where sanctions could hurt the most. michael crowley recently traveled to kiev and joins us with some of his reporting. michael, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. happy national pi day. >> thank you. same to you. i notice a big day of celebration in your household. >> let's start here with the news of the day. secretary kerry met with the foreign minister for a long time and does not seem to have made any progress. >> no. you know, i can't say that's very surprising. at this point the russians basically hold the cards here and i don't think that people were expecting them to come in and make concessions or to back away. the crimea in effect belongs to russia at this point. unless and until the u.s. and

europe are ready to impose some very strong economic sanctions, i just don't think will is any way to change their course on crimea. we can talk about some of the other things we might be concerned they would do. not surprised about today's meet. >> yeah. michael, let's talk about the vote that's happening on sunday where the people of crimea will decide freely and fairly whether or not they want to be -- to belong with russia. however, the ballot offers no choice for staying with the status quo. both options lead to crimea passing under russian control. so they don't have an option to vote no. how is this an election? >> well, you know, this is very soviet or -- it also reminds me of -- north korean leader kim jong un, re-elected with 100% of the vote a few days ago. >> that's an accomplishment. >> so, you know -- >> a strong leader. >> that's sort of self-parody g

authoritarian style we are used to bp one option is to vote to join russia and the other is to revert briefly to observe 1992 constitution that would give them the option to join russia. this is how this whole thing is playing out right now and in a way you know, you almost wonder if putin is chuckle being it all in the kremlin. he's so brazen and the gap between what russia is saying publicly and what they are really doing, their ideals and actions which are just so unapologetic is almost comical. >> it gives them a choice between now or later. >> that's right. amazing that people who have tanks and soldiers in the streets don't have a free choice of what then want to do with their future. you were in kiev last week. how are people in kiev feeling about what's going on in crimea? >> they are really anxious. you know, they are very upset about what is happening but they are also anxious about what will happen in mainland ukraine.

you know, there are signs the russians are stirring up unrest in the east. will has been talk of people being bust acrokr -- bussed acr board near russia. he talks how he may have to defend ukrainians along the border. there are people that would rye to stir up violence that would give putin a pretext to send in a response. we have to protect the russians in ukraine from these mobs trying to beat them up. there's concern that there are goons that are coming across the boarder to stir things up and frankly, look, not everyone who is in these sort of what we would call pro-western, pro-european camp in ukraine is an angel either. you can see some of the nationalist groups inciting violence and so long story short will is anxiety. the country could plunge into state of war. i talked to a young lawyer, woman 25 years old, who said i never thought i would wake up every day in this country just greatful we are not at war. she wakes up in the morning and

thinks war has not broken out, sigh of relief. that's how they are feeling now. very anxious. >> briefly, any observations of your time with secretary kerry in the region? >> well, look, kerry loves diplomacy. he is trying really hard and was trying to make a strong show of western is port for ukraine. he was clearly very moved when he was down there on the square looking at the memorials to people that had been killed. i think it is also -- it has to be frustrating for him and he can spend hours and hours. i suspect they are largely talking past one another. the russians seem to hold most of the cards here. i think that kerry's power to do anything, united states' power to change russia's course at this point is limited. the big question is how far does putin want to push this and, again, what are people worried about in kiev? you can see an invasion into eastern kiev by russian forces that would be a disaster. i think it is up to putin, does he want to take it that far? there is not that much john kerry can do about it. >> what happens after this vote on sunday? it seems like we have a good

sense of what is going to happen. what happens next? >> the big question is whether we -- we are seeing there are russian forces conducting military exercises just across the border of ukraine. the big question is, is this -- is there something more? will putin were don't to grab ukraine? it was a pretty low-hanging fruit. not to be glib about it. it was easy for him to take. will he be satisfied with that and made his point? will he have gotten his port protected, his naval base? or does he want to keep pushing it? does he want to go into eastern ukraine and annex more territory? would the kremlin try to stir up more unrest for them to come in and protect ethnic russians? i think that if he were to stop at the ukraine, i'm sorry, stop at the crimea, this thing could de-escalate somewhat and the west may have to swallow it and would be sanctions and complaining. the big question is, is he ready to company farther? if he does we see a whole new

level of crisis and drama and danger here. >> hangs so much. michael crowley, great stuff. happy pi day. >> thanks so much. up next, it is march. you know what that means? march madness. we have everything you need to know before the first tip-off including some bracket tips. sports, sports, sports. [ female announcer ] your first breath, your first grasp, your first smile... we were there.

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and the cinderella story this year? so many questions. it is great to have you here, jordan. >> great to be here. >> we have florida, arizona, wichita, seem to be locked up for number one. last night villanova had a pretty big upset. that slot seems a bit up in the air. who will take it? >> obviously you are talking about one seeds. for me it is about michigan. snuck by illinois. michigan to me is the most underrated team in america. i think this is a michigan team that has an opportunity to do serious damage. obviously, they have been without the whole year without mcgeary. all american center that came back despite what would have been a lottery pick. now her having guys step up that maybe weren't doing so at the beginning of the year. what it comes down to, number one seed, since 1985, won the national championship, 62% of the time. when you are filling out that bracket, number one seed is obviously a good thing to do. >> that's a good point. you are in 2 sports buff territory. we are constantly talking about

ncaa stuff. i have a question for you that has been burning up on my mind. that is last year's cinderella story was wichita state. a ninth seed making it all the way to the final four. who is going to be this year's cinderella story? >> well -- wichita state -- some people would still consider them a cinderella. to come out of the valley conference a good lead. they are the first team since 1991 to go undefeated throughout the regular season and conference tournament. i like harvard. harvard last year dash. >> listen -- >> i know. >> listen what harvard has done. last year they beat new mexico. 13 seed. new mexico was a dark horse in the final four team. team i like ad lot. this year they are not quite as talented as they were last we are but had a couple of suspended kids come back. tommy amaker who was at michigan -- >> suspended at harvard? what's go on? >> this is not a classic ivey team. >> were they busted for stealing quizzes.

>> stealing quizzes and s.a.t. scores. tommy aker was at seton hall, michigan. he played at duke. i think harvard could be a serious cinderella team. >> let's talk about the real deal. you haven't talked about kansas yet. marquee team. fantastic coach. one of the best freshmen. last chance to see him in an ncaa tournament. what do you think about kansas' chances to go far and extend their legacy? >> i have been bullish on kansas as of late. they have been out -- past week and a half without swroel who has been their -- i think in the draft if he stays healthy. andrew wiggins. is the center sun believable. he has serious back injuries. you can't necessarily be a one-man show. maybe for a couple of games. i think kansas -- if they don't get my man back, they will go out earlier thanpeople think. >> virginia.

>> motivational speaker. >> i don't like villanova. >> you get a chance! you get a chance! you get a chance! >> before the brackets out you have to be positive. >> how do you fill out your bracket? >> yeah. first of all, i like a pencil, eraser. you want to go with that. if you start changing things, it starts to get really bad. look for the 12 seeds. 12 seeds, 11 seeds, past 12 years, have won a game every single tournament. that means that -- at least in 11 or 12 is going to win a game. >> no matter what. it is going to happen. however, virginia is going to be a sneaky two seed. maybe a one. i think virginia as a team that does not score the ball at the fence, virginia out of the acc -- >> wrong team out acc. what about duke? >> duke is -- a dark horse team this year. everybody knows duke. right? this is not as classic great duke team. they don't have great size.

a questionable point guard. i think duke has an opportunity to go to the final four. if they win the tournament they could be a one seed as well. this is not a great duke team if i had my eyes closed, though -- >> about 108 years ago. >> if i had my eyes closed i would think that you and ari melber are speaking. >> he is really up on his sports. >> she just insulted both of us. >> i know. >> key for filling out a bracket, go with the first instinct and pick a couple of 12s or 11s. >> what do you do if you don't have an instinct? >> my wife does. pick guys that are attractive. >> that's what i got. >> okay. who is going to win? >> my national champion, arizona. >> really? >> great. >> why? >> fantastic. >> arizona last won a title in

'97. this is a similar team. they have a really athletic frontcourt. they have two great guards, including the pac 12 player of the year. mcconnell who by the way is a third in the nation as assist-to-turnover ratio. great teams have great yards. look at louisville last year. russ smith was there. this to me arizona has the deepest and most complete team. >> who is the one that broke his leg last year? >> kevin weir. out for the rest of the year. red shirt. >> this is a year dash this is the year with a lot of good teams. you can pick 12, 15 teams. all of them could win a national title. >> that's what i love about march madness. thank you so much for being here. we are going to take your tips and come up with our own brackets oar the weekend. can i not wait. we will see you back here, jordan, on monday. analyzing our picks for the 2014 cycle tournament challenge. we asked our facebook friends who do you think will be crowned champion this year. the gators for seniors will lead

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history. she has written over 40 books of fiction and nonfiction, poetry. her work has blown my mind only occasions. her new novel is out now, "carthage." thank you for being here. we will talk about the book in a second. i want to talk to you about another thing that you love, that you have written so amazingly about which is boxing. particularly mike tyson. wrote some amazing essays when tyson was coming out, first champion. the tyson story has really changed over the last decade. i wonder what are some of your observations on this sort of third and perhaps leading to the final arc of the mike tyson epic? >> will is an afterlife after great champion. young men rise, they ascend, they reach their peak. they are champions. then will is an afterlife. tyson has done very well with this afterlife.

he is reinventing himself. he is very smart. he's very clever. he seems on have entered the phase of his life now where he is much more content to -- >> we had him on "the cycle and had the same feeling when he was here. talk to us a bit about your new novel. what was inspiration for it? tell us about the story. >> literally i was inspired when i visited a small city in west virginia. i was visiting a college and giving a lecture. i was walking along. parked by a river. i saw a number of young men who were either in wheelchairs or they were obviously handicapped, disabled. and it is something you don't see in princeton, new jersey. and relatively -- in the united states. and in this particular area, in the united states, there's a present ponder answer of people

who had been wounded. veterans. find that out. i was ask. and it struck me as being so point sxwrant so tragic that there they are. 25, 29 years old. their lives are so -- i-went back home and i did research, i got photographs, things that writers do. i read interviews and read things online. created a novel which -- returning of the iraq write war that comes back home and confronts the family and munctu fund -- community and changed life. >> some people keep a net book by their bed and write thoughts as they go to bed. i love reading about your work ethic. you say you try to write every day from 8:00 to 1:00 and sometimes in the evening. you write partly in long hand

which many people don't do today. how are you still productive? >> i don't know that i'm any more productive than anybody else. it may be that i do this sort of thing that becomes product. other people are teaching and working with young people, you know, very energetically and selflessly. so it's a matter of what you do with your time. >> i wanted to also ask, when you are trying to write about what characters think, which is so different than dialogue where we have some idea of a public exchange of ideas, what is your process to figure out how different people think? do you think about it factually like different people think different ways, or is it all just your creation? >> well, you have to sort of improvise and keep working with it. i can spend six weeks more or less trying to get a voice that's a mediated voice, not my voice, but the voice of the character that's slightly enhanced because writers and artists never present people literally as they are.

there's usually a little more articulate or -- there's more a metaphorical level to it. it takes a while. as i tell my students, you're not going to do it in two minutes. >> why longhand? what difference does that make, pen to paper rather than using the -- >> she also tweets, i want to remind everyone. >> i also tweet. >> you're good on the twitter, too. >> i don't think it matters how we write. i think some people could dictate. some people could scribble. some people could type. and i don't think it matters. it's more the quality of the thoughts themselves. >> you had a really -- >> do you write out the tweets before you tweet them? >> no. no. the sort of writing is very good if you're traveling. you know, sort of scribbling quickly. and you might want to just do an outline, you know. somehow it's easy to do an outline by hand than -- than on a laptop. kind of different. >> you can see it -- >> got a good tweet the other day about if it's in

parenthesis, the nsa can't read it. thank you very much for being here, we hope we get 40 more books and novels out of you. thank you very much. >> thank you. lots of fun. >> all right. up next, a "cycle" exclusive. i'll interview a congresswoman who has never before spoken publicly. eliminate odors and reduce allergens with new febreze allergen reducer. >>wanna see some allergens? eww! what is that thing? they could be all around you right now. how would you deal with them? >>ummm.... ninjas. no need for ninjas. reduce up to 95% of inanimate allergens becoming airborne from fabrics... ...with new, dermatologist tested, febreze allergen reducer. get fresher air and breathe happy. also available in air effects.

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don't you think you should start? >> oh, are we ready? okay. four, three -- >> just -- just go ahead.

just go ahead. >> oh, okay. all right. i'm tore, welcome to "beside a strawman," about show about "between two ferns." today's congresswoman is crystal ball. >> you're not going to do that make fun of my name thing, that's too obvious. >> i wouldn't do that. i'm sensitive about my own name. >> i would be sensitive about your name, too. >> okay. do you see the episode of "between two ferns" with president obama? it was better than the justin bieber episode -- of course it wasn't as good as the bradley cooper episode. that's amazing. take a look at the presidential episode. >> i have to know, what is it like to be the last black president? >> seriously? what's it like for this to be the last time you ever talk to a president? >> it must stink, though, that you can't run, you know, three times. >> no, actually, i think it's a good idea. you know, if i ran a third time, it would be sort of like doing a third "hangover" movie. didn't really work out very well, did it?

>> so on a scale of one to ten, how much of that demeaned the presidency? >> that's a ridiculous question. >> because it's a ten? >> i think the president should be commended for taking a risk in order to make people -- young people aware of healthcare.gov. have to go where the eyeballs are, after all. >> but it's on the internet. >> the presidency is portable. it can go anywhere and remain intact and dignified. look, he's a man of the people. he's not a king. the president can go to five guys, why can't he go on an internet show that will attract bigger numbers than most tv shows? certainly more than this show. >> so who do you think won that interview? >> nobody wins an interview. it's not a sports game. >> well, you know what they say -- if you don't know who's winning the interview, then it's not you. >> nobody says that. >> i do. what countries do you think will watch "between two ferns" who

will say obama's weak and then go and invade our neighbors? >> nobody's going to do that. >> because they don't watch "between two ferns"? >> leaders are more concerned about our military than about our internet shows. >> putin doesn't do internet shows. you don't see other presidents going on internet shows. >> well, you saw nixon do "laughin," clinton was on "arsenio." george bush was on "deal or no deal." >> those aren't internet shows. >> what's the difference? the method of delivery doesn't matter to people today. the president's multifaceted media strategy is one of the things people like about him. >> you'd never see like some great president like john f. kennedy or fdr or abraham lincoln doing an internet talk show. >> well, you're right because the internet did not exist during their time. >> see! >> okay. but lincoln for one was known as a funny man. i think lincoln would have certainly done an internet talk show if the internet had existed

in the 1860s. >> but if the internet existed in the 1860s, then everything would have been entirely different. i'm just saying, that's a silly acce supposition, congresswoman. >> it's silly because i'm starting to sound like you. it's infectious. >> i bet you're glad you went to healthcare.gov. >> i have the health plan that all elected officials have. i don't have to go to health car care.gov. is there a congresswoman you would like to kiss? so are you running for president? >> this interview's over. >> okay. got to admit it, she won this interview. thank you for watching "beside a strawman." "now with alex wagner" starts now. one week and 2,500 miles later, malaysia airlines flight

370 is still lost. it is friday, march 14th, and this is "now." >> forced us to widen the search. >> it's been one week, there's still no sign of the plane or its 239 passengers and crew members. >> massive expansion of the search area. >> the potential flight zone is now enormous. >> the indian ocean has 28 million square miles. >> there's no way you can search the entire indian ocean. >> two communications systems on board the plane stopped working. >> what was hatching inside that cockpit? >> did someone turn those off, or was there some sort of a catastrophic failure? >> investigators are focusing on the theory that the plane continued flying for four to five hours. >> malaysian officials confirm this morning they searched the pilot's home -- pilots' homes but found no clues. >> u.s. intelligence agencies weighing in, the faa,