up next. good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show," live from miami. let's get to work. >> it's time to build it. >> the administration is now the only thing standing in the way of thousands of american jobs. >> increase the supply of american energy and build the keystone pipeline. >> the international police which use the energy scarcity as a weapon against us all are watching intently. >> energy vulnerability equals geopolitical vulnerability. >> there's no reason scientific or otherwise to block this project any longer. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we keep talking about this, people are going to be paying attention and will start moving on it. now we're get something movement. now we're getting to the 11th hour. the fight over the keystone x.l. pipeline is heating up big time in congress. earlier today, house democrats led by jan shicowski of chicago, sent a letter to secretary of

state john kerry slamming the pipeline. they wrote, "the keystone x.l. would unlock huge reserves of carbon that scientist have warned need to stay in the ground if we are to avoid worsening climate change that could prove reversible." that's the bottom line. wait a minute, overall only 27 democrats signed on to the letter. now there's 198 democrats in the house. we've got work to do. i think that voters deserve to know where their representatives are on this issue. 27, not a good number. good start, a brave 27. many while, we know where we can find some democrats where they stand, and that would be none the other than louisiana senator mary landrieu who is making flat out a dishonest push for the keystone x.l. pipeline. at a budget hearing she made this bogus case for the project. >> a critical, in my view, piece of infrastructure that will

transport safely the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america, contrary to popular belief. canada is our closest and our strongest trading partner. you are aware that their environmental standards are, in fact, higher than ours, and among the highest in the world. and this resource of 30 billion barrels of oil represents, i understand, the largest single free enterprise resource in the world. so from my perspective and particularly the people that i represent, it's hard for us to even understand why there's a question as to whether this infrastructure is in the national interest. >> now did i tell you when we started covering this, left, right, blue, green, center, you

can find experts everywhere. we've got a new one to the plate. a senator from louisiana. landrieu called the tarsands oil the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. we haven't heard that one. now we've been covering the stir for some time here on "the ed show." i've got to tell you, that one is a dandy. no question about it. new to us for sure. now let's go to nasa climate scientist james hanson from thursday's senate hearing. >> tarsands are among the dirtiest and most carbon intensive fuels. makes no sense to set up a system to exploit them in a major way. if we don't approve it, a lot of that tarsands will never be developed. it's -- the world is going to realize pretty soon that we've got to limit the amount of carbon we put in the atmosphere. and it's going to have to do that via a price on carbon, and that's going cause the most

carbon-intensive things too be left in the ground, and that includes tar sands. >> dr. hansen is the scientist, he's the expert, he is spot on. now, senator landrieu, i'm not going to call you a liar on national television, but i'm very, very curious -- what's your source? can you take us to your source? because you said that it's the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. that's an unbelievable statement. now who are you quoting, senator? well, "the ed show" producers, we called senator landreieu's office and asked them to produce the source. who is she quoting? they have yet to get back to us. could it be russ gurling, ceo of transcanada? in fact, when you look at the research we've done on this, nobody from transcanada has even gone so far to say that it's the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. we're making some headway here.

tarsands oil is one of the most toxic fossil fuels on the planet. oil company -- do you know what they've got to do? they have to heat the sands with toxic additives to extract this oil from the ground. mining tarsands oil creates three times more carbon emissions than conventional oil. it's a fact. oil companies are literally destroying the morrell forest in northern canada. they don't like it up there either. a study from the university of california shows people who live downwind of alberta's tarsands, well, they're getting blood cancer. senator landrieu has a long and a lot of nerve to come forward -- by calling this the cleanest barrel of produced oil in north america. i want to know the source, senator. i'm not trying to be a jerk here. i really want to interview this expert that you're quoting here, or is that just your opinion, or what somebody in louisiana told

you? it's important to keep in mind that landrieu has a disturbing record of protecting the oil industry. everyone remembers this scene in the gulf of mexico after the deep water horizon rig exploded in april of 2010. in the middle of this mess, senator mary landrieu came on "the ed show" and stuck up for the oil industry. >> i just want you to know that i am not and no one that i know in congress is trying to protect bp. secondly, i'm glad to know that you are concerned about jobs because we made it to be. this industry, as bad as maybe some of the actors are and as irresponsible as some are, ed, one thing i hope you could realize -- this is a big industry. it's not just big oil, it's small companies, it's independent companies. and in my state alone, just louisiana, it's 300,000 people that go to work every day in

this industry. ed, you can't just beat up on them. >> are you for unlimited caps? >> i'm for bp paying every single penny they owe -- >> unlimited does not fit with you? >> if it puts the industry out of work, no. >> that's factual. what is she -- what she's saying about jobs in louisiana, there's no question about that. but i'm just trying to find out if it's the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america that's going to be coming through the keystone x.l. pipeline. there's a reason mary landrieu sticks up for oil. opensecrets.org is the source. they showed landrieu received under $500,000 from oil and gas companies from 2009 to 2014. there's a reason the senator from louisiana is calling tarsands oil the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. let's go back to the number of democrats who have their names on this letter that congresswoman jan shicowski and colleagues put together.

the number's 27. that's not a very good number. that would be a very slow start if you're talking about 27 protesters. every democrat or should i say any democrat who is on record to be concerned about climate change should have their name on this letter that went to secretary kerry telling him no to the pipeline. what's the problem? well, it's big oil. one of the biggest lobbies in all of washington comes from the oil industry. i would venture to say that some of these democrats in congress, they don't want to become political targets because that's exactly what's going to happen. so accolades big time, and a hats off to those 27 democrats that had the courage to step up in the midst of citizens united and money floating all over the place, attacking people, running negative ad, to step up and say we should not be building this pipeline. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think.

tonight's question -- has big oil intimidated democrats not to sign this letter opposing the pipeline? text a for yes or b to no to 67622. go it our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the result later in the show. for more i want to bring you congresswoman jan chikowsky of illinois who was behind the letter. thank you very much for doing this. i appreciate it. i know that there's millions of americans crass america who are waiting for elected officials such as yourself to step up and make a bold statement here. and basically ask for the order. ask the secretary of state not to do this. you got 27 signatures. are democrats afraid to oppose the pipeline, congresswoman? >> well, first of all, i want to tell you, ed, there were just a few of us who were going to send this letter because we wanted to get it to secretary kerry now. he's the one that makes the natural -- the national interest determination and sthaends on it

the president. but there were actually more people who wanted to get on the letter. so we opened it up to them. so kuehl there are more than 27 of us on the democratic statewide who are against the keystone x.l. pipeline. but certainly we could use more, we could -- you know, if your listeners would ask their members of congress to please convey to secretary kerry our opposition. but you know, we know the science is very clear that this is the dirtiest oil on the -- on earth, and certainly not the cleanest oil. we know about that in chicago. the coke brothers actually have a refinery here that -- that refines the tarsand oil. and what happens with the waste is it creates a huge pile called pet coke, a black, nasty pile that when the wind blows carries heavy metals throughout

communities right now on the south side of chicago that are protesting them. this is very bad for people's health. from the beginning to the end. >> i've got to ask you -- it's terrible, no question about it. but the senator from louisiana says the tarsands oil is the cleanest barrel of oil produced in north america. what's your response to that? >> well, i certainly would be interested, as you are, in seeing the source of that because i have never seen anything other than saying there's at least 17% more carbon pollution from these tarsands. the threat of polluting aquifers that never could come back if they are polluted from this. so i don't know where that number comes from, where that information comes from. but the science i believe tell us -- >> it doesn't -- >> no. that this could be catastrophic and irreversible.

>> do you know what that was by the senator? that was a promotional statement. that's what -- that's exactly what that was. it was almost as if she was reading the oil industry bullet points. i will give as much time to that source if possible if landrieu's office can produce that source. does the oil industry have a hold -- go ahead. >> i was just going to say, you know, she also talked about jobs when she was defending the oil industry. first of all, we -- i believe obviously in good jobs for construction workers. but we have mile and miles of pipes here in this -- in the united states that are already leaking that need to be fixed. we have underground water infrastructure that desperately needs to be fixed. if we would do an infrastructure bill, we could put far more people to work on good pipe jobs. and we don't need to build a pipeline that is going to take the oil and export it on it the

world market. make no mistake. this is not for domestic use, ed. this is not going to help us with our oil supply. >> so congresswoman, i want to focus quickly on the politics of this. are more democrats going to put their name on the line to tell the president don't do this? >> i do believe that we will. in fact, we've had letters that have had more than -- than we put in. people wanted to get on this letter. we wanted to get it out quickly. i think the numbers going -- and we're also seeing on the polling data that the support by the american people is going down, and in canada, support for the pipeline is barely over 50% now and dropping. >> all right. the more we talk about it the more these numbers turn. no doubt about it. congressman jan schakowsky, thank for your time. i want to bring in ring of fire radio host and america's friend and attorney mike papantonio.

how are you? did you know this of the cleanest barrel of oil produceded in north dakota? is that -- in north america, is that some good promotional stuff for you? >> it's another of those myths. we've heard plenty of myths. you remember we heard the bhith 20,000 jobs -- myth about 20,000 jobs being kraethed. when the lies cleared up, we saw 2 was 35 permanent jobs that would be established. you could build two starbucks and create more jobs. the next big lie was that the cost of oil was going to drop. and as we see, as we just heard, it's not going to drop at all because this is not oil for america. this is oil that goes off shore, it sids in ships, and then the oil company determines where the highest bidder is and then the oil is shipped there. the other lie is that it's not going to affect the environment. then we saw the studies that said a pinhole leak in a pipe can hospital 700,000 gallons of

cruel a day into the most pristine aquifer in the country. then we also have to look at history. you started this with a very interesting thing about bp. we look at the hour of these companies that choose to externalize all their -- their disaster, we look at exxon valdez where they turned alaska black and poisoned and made the taxpayers basically pay for all that. bp, they destroyed an entire ecosystem that still hasn't recovered. and they make the taxpayers pay for that. we have to look at who we're dealing with, and we have to say you know what, i'll bet if a disaster -- if a catastrophe hops here i'll see the same conduct. >> if the president approves the pipeline which, of course, we'll deal with the oil coming over the border, what about the landowners and their recourse in nebraska? >> how do you see that? i mean -- >> very good point. >> this really going come down to the nebraska state supreme court if the president approves

it, correct? >> let me tell you how important it is. nebraska had the girl scouts put together a consumer complaint, and they went after the governor who had ok'd the x.l. and all of a sudden, the trial court says, no, we're not going to do that. now it's going up on appeal. so all of a sudden there -- transcanada has to be able to say this to this administration that there is an approved route. right now as we speak, there snow approved route for the pipeline. ed, very important new an here, okay. this president is a constitutional law professor. this is what he did. he understands that there is state sovereignty issue that has to be resolved before the pipeline goes anywhere. it's not just nebraska where we're going to see the lawsuits. we're going to see them in south dakota, kansas, oklahoma, here's what's really interesting very quickly. it is this -- the president is talking like a addition might be around the corner. if he's saying that, he

certainly understands that the appellate courts alone will hold this up for two years. so it might be a bright spot for keystone opponents. when the president says a decision's around the corner, i've look ad this, had it a long time, he also knows nebraska's saying hell no, not in our back yard. there has to be a resolution here. >> mike, ring of fire radio host and also -- i like to call you america's lawyer, dongone it. way to go. appreciate your time. i appreciate is so much. remember to answer the question t bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter at edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up, how to compete with hillary clinton. how's that going to work out? the rampant response panel weighs in on joe biden's chances. first, house democrats have had enough of darrell issa's antic. congressman matt cartwright weighs in on that. pampers swaddlers was there. congressman matt cartwright

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time for the trenders on social media. check us out on twitter at edshow. i'm on sirius x.m. 127 monday through friday noon to it:p.m. "ed show" made media has repord we have the top trenders on line for you. number three trender -- >> higher power outage. >> do you believe that good has a sense of humor? >> that ain't funny. >> the democrats had an all-night marathon advancing global warming. >> climate change is real. climate change is manmade. >> hmm. you've got a point there. >> pat robertson says our capitol blackout was a sign from god. >> he dropped the temperature 40 degrees. >> his blessings are raining down upon me.

wait, that's not rain! >> sent so much wind that it knocked out the lights in the capitol dome. >> why do you mock me, oh, lord? >> the lord is saying, democrats, it isn't going to happen had that way. >> it's not going to happen. >> the number-two trender -- mcconnelling. >> why are you smiling? >> i like to smile. smiling's my favorite. >> i just learned to smile ten minutes ago. >> oh, crap, that's terrifying. >> the kentucky senator's campaign ad spawns a new means. >> we're calling it #-mcconnelling. ♪ what a man what a man what a mighty good man ♪ >> it's funny [ bleep ]. ♪ i like big butts and i cannot lie ♪ >> i think everyone can play. ♪ thank you for being a friend >> and today's top trender -- the hot seat. >> it seems the congressional cat fight has taken new life. >> thank you. >> i said did apologize. democrats clearly want more,

though. >> democrats keep the heat on congressman darrell issa. >> the house of representatives strongly condemns the offensive and disrespectful manner in which chairman darrell e. issa conducted the hearing and requires that he come to the well of the house to issue a public apology. >> he doesn't deserve to be chair. >> close it down. >> joining me tonight, congressman matt cartwright of pennsylvania. congressman, good to have you with us. the democrats are looking for an apology. and then, of course, there's also the question about whether the chairman actually broke the rules or not. are you going to get an apology? is this going to have any impact? >> it doesn't sound like we are, ed. i need to tell you, i'm on that committee. i was 25 feet away from chairman issa when he pulled that stunt. it was astonishing to me. actually to watch him reach over elijah cummings and hit the

switch to turn off representative cummings' microphone. i've never seen anything like that. and i checked with people who have been in the congress for dozens of years. they've never seen anything like that. so to say that a simple phone call in the face of such a public affront, such a public humiliation that he inflicted on ranking member issa, to say that a private phone call apology is enough is ridiculous. and i totally am in agreement with my colleague, dan kildy out of flint, michigan, when he brought that motion demanding a public apology. >> did the chairman break the rules? he says he didn't. democrats say he did break the rules. what -- what is it? >> my understanding is absolutely did because there is a rule -- there's a house rule that allows equal time. he gave zero time to the ranking member of the full committee

which is a flagrant violation of the rules. i have no idea what chairman issa was thinking when he did that other than that ranking member cummings was going to score some points. was going to point out that -- that what the witness could have said might have shed new light on the subject. >> bottom line here, congressman, is if the democrats don't step up to this kind of behavior, who knows what the next hearing's going to be like or how the next committee is going to be handled. god forbid if some of these tea partiers end up being committee chairmen, nobody's going to have any dissenting voices in congress. isn't that really the motivation about what this could snowball to? >> well, you know, the oversight in government reform committee, i've been on it for a year and a quarter now. all it is is a press generator for the republican spin machine. you know, this thing that you've seen infecting all of congress,

the dysfunction that you've seen, it's -- it's, first of all, it's zombie legislation to repeal the affordable care act 40-plus times, maybe over 50 times, depending how you count it. but that's infected the committees, as well. and we see this in the oversight committee where they keep, you know, respinning, recasting the same old phony scandals over and over again. >> so the bottom line now is the next move for the democrats, will there be an effort, a fight to remove issa as the chair of the oversight committee, and what avenues can the democrats take? >> well, what we've seen so far, as we bring motions and then, you know, because the gop have the majority in the congress, they can simply, you know, eric cantor got up and moved to table our motion. and that went to a recorded voted. and they win and that's the end of that.

>> he's there -- so what we saw yesterday is about the best thing the democrats can do to bring attention to the country that this is how overbearing and how insulting the republicans can be, and this is the best way to call for an apology, call for protests, and do what the democrats did. but removing darrell issa, it -- it isn't going to happen. and not in the age of obstruction or fair play and gate. it won't happen. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. thank you very much. matt cartwright with us from pennsylvania. coming up, if joe biden wants to give hillary clinton a run for her money, well, we've got a suggestion for him. the rapid response panel weighs in with advice. later, the tides are turning in florida politics. i'm here in miami this weekend to find out where voters stand on the issues that matter to them. next, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live ahead.

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shot at pulling ahead of hillary clinton i think is going to have to run an unconventional campaign. forget what the calendar says. my advice -- start early, get aggressive, and get with those house members. winning the house is what it's all about. the democrats will back whoever can bring results to the base. if vice president joe biden is serious about a run, he's going to have to go out and work events early on. he will commit himself to winning the house. if he does that because i can tell you democrats are off across this country -- they know the obstruction, and they know exactly what it's going to take to win the house back. and i think a big key for the democrats is, okay, who want to work for us. now hillary clinton has never said to sit out the midterm elections. but the pacs supporting the former secretary of state, they don't seem to be listening. they're already taking a knee on

2014. this is vice president biden's chance, as i see it, hillary clinton -- what does she have? she's got the buzz. she's got the money. she's got the experience. so does joe. she's got the money. she's got the buzz. i don't know if joe's got a lot of that. but you can always outwork the competition. this is going to be different. and there is no doubt that hillary clinton is not your everyday candidate. it's going to take a real lift to defeat her, there's no doubt about it. so to make it interesting, i would like to see vice president joe biden or any of the other candidates do something way ahead of the calendar. don't talk to me about burnout. this is about an ideological fight for the country. this is about an attack on workers. this is about taking health care away from millions of americans. we're in the now business right now. we're not waiting for 2016 or the calendar says to do it in

february right after the mid terms in early 2015. i don't buy that. i think democrats across the country, liberals across the country, they want a fighter. and they want to get in this fight. joining me our response panel, zerlina maxwell of the grillo.com and talk and media consultant with us, holland, it's a statement that's old and outdated, it's called out of the box. i'm going to use the term "unconventional." if hillary clinton isn't going complete to running, why wouldn't joe biden throw his hat in the ring early on to mix it up and to let the democrats know where he is? >> first things first, mister. congratulations, ed shultz, again this year, top ten on the prestigious "talkers" magazine 100 most important radio talk show hosts in america. "the heavy 100." well done. and as for your point about the --

>> emphasis on the heavy, i got it. >> their words, not mine. as to your point on the timeline, the 2016 ious are being written in 2014. you made a point about the checks being written. what we found out this week in that special election in florida is that the name of the tune is do, re, mi. so it would be very smart of the vice president to get out there. and i'm sure they'll want him. the guy lights up a room, notwithstanding the caricature that talk radio has painted for him. just like jerry ford was caricatured as clumsy because the camera never blinks, there's a bit of a joe biden blooper real going around. may not be longer than the "w" blooper reel. you've seen this guy work a room. he does light it up. he's very good with the eye contact and the smile, and i bumped into him a bunch of times in washington and in delaware.

and every time i do, he's polite enough to pretend that he remembered me. so it's that human contact that he ought to come out on the stump for the 2014 crowd. >> i think there's an interesting dynamic here. joe biden wants every democrat to win, okay. and every democrat doesn't have to endorse joe biden, but i think they want joe biden to come in to their district to help motivate the base and get people going. it's a win/win for everybody. and those voters out there -- i'm talking about how are you going to defeat hillary clinton, how is inbound going to make this a competitive race? your thoughts on that? >> i think that you're absolutely right that the focus needs to be on turning out the vote in the mid terms, and joe biden, as -- as has been effective in his role as the populist and chief of this administration, and the one who can really speak to the blue-collar crowds. in addition to that, he also is

a really effective messenger when it comes to women, young people, and people of color. he had very good appearances in front of all black crowds during the 2012 cycle. i think that the focus for democrats and for joe biden, anyone that wants democrats to be successful and want ambitions to go into the white house needs to be thinking about geo tv other targeting voters that brought obama into his second term in 2012. that's women, that's people of color, that's young people. and particularly black women. i think that if the vice president can be an effective messenger to women of color, we got this thing in the bag. and i think that all of the narrative -- that this is over already eight months out is wrong. nobody's voted yet. we need to get those people to the polls. >> what do you think is going to motivate the base? what do you think is going to be the big driver in the mid terms, the next months, zerlina?

are they motivated? >> i think the base is motivated. i think as someone who recently sign signed up for obamacare and just received my insurance card, one, i want to make sure democrats go to the polls so republicans can't take away my card, right? 4.2 million americans like me have signed up for obamacare and now have that financial security they never had before. joe biden, as populist in chief, can go out and message and make sure that republicans don't win. they -- they want to take away your insurance card. that's the message that i think joe biden can hone in on, as well as the minimum wage and reproductive health. >> you talked about the effectiveness of joe biden. what's the strategy if he does get in here to take on hillary clinton. what's the best strategy to use? >> well, press the flash -- i respect him biding his time. mrs. clinton is such a presumptive candidate, and all of that dough is on third base. it's actually a high-class

problem for the democrats because between mrs. clinton and the vice president, it -- two people who would need now on-the-job training. and they're both very familiar to voters. there's no paul ryan effect where suddenly the voters have to meet this guy, have to learn him. he's been by the president's side conspicuously like a handful of vice presidents -- walter mondale for president carter. certainly al gore during the clinton administration. dick cheney for w. these were activist, very visible vice presidents. so as woody allen said, 80% of life is showing up. and i think you just get joe biden out there and let joe be joe. >> you know, both of them uniquely qualified, as you say. secretary of state hillary clinton, foreign relations. joe biden spent decades on foreign relations committee in

the senate. i mean, they're two highly qualified people. so i don't think, zerlina, there's going to be any split of any base. i think at the end of the day they're going to say when you look at qualifications, when you look at experience, when you look at level-headedness, either one of them. what do you think? >> right. i think this a great place to be if you're a democrat. i think the focus should be on the midterm selections. 2016 is a long way away. anybody who runs in 2016 is going to need a democratic majority in the house and senate in order to be effective. we saw this under president obama. if you don't have that, then you can't get much done. so i think that hillary and joe biden both need to focus on the midterm elections. i think the super pacs need to, as well. all hands on deck here. >> yeah. >> all right, holland cooke, you told me months ago that you thought that ted cruz wanted to be the next big talker, that this was all, you know, a grandstanding effort by the senator from texas.

i've got one for you tonight -- you've got nothing but subpoenas surrounding some of these republican candidates. you've got low poll numbers. you've got bad job numbers. you know who's going to jump in? his name is dick cheney. he's got a new heart. he's ready to go. he's out there very interestingly right now getting after president obama. and i think that there's going to be a circle of republicans who are going to be saying, come on, dick, don't you have just one more run in you? >> he's so coy about it, too, isn't he? >> yeah. this is going to be another draft me as vice president except let's one go one step up. zerlina maxwell, holland cooke, great to have you with us tonight. thank you very much. coming up, polls are showing a shift in florida politics. i'm here in miami to find out what issues really matter most to the voters in this state. stay with us.

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welcome back to "the ed show." this is a story for the folks who take a shower after work. less than eight months from the 2014 midterm elections and florida governor rick scott is already in big trouble. in the words of a top florida republican, quote, there is no way to sugarcoat this. it's awful. rick scott has been lagging in the polls for some time now. a quinnipiac poll in january found democratic opponent charlie crist with an eight-point lead.

university of florida poll in february found crist with a seven-point lead. it got a whole lot worse when the miami herald crossed tabs from six internal gop polls. that's right, folks, a dozen members of rick scott's own party leaked some pretty damaging poll numbers to the press. the numbers show broad support for charlie crist across a wide array of demographics, according to one business interest statewide survey. crist leads scott by 34 percentage points in broward and miami-dade counties. get out the vote is going to be big. crist leads by six percentage points, according to a poll of republican-controlled state house districts. north florida is a republican stronghold, and crist leads scott by four percentage points there, which is almost unheard of. that's a cumulative 17-point shift in favor of democrats compared to the 2010 election.

this weekend i am down here in florida to talk to voters about the issues that matter to them with a focus group. we're going to be talking about jobs, health care and voting rights. annette taddeo chair of the miami-dade democratic party joins me tonight. annette, good to have you with me. what message does it send when you've got republicans leaking poll numbers to the press? >> wow. well, maybe they're trying to wake up their base, or maybe -- i don't really understand why they would leak these polls. but you know what? i just these republicans are really, really worried, although they're certainly seeing a little light at the end of the tunnel with what happened this week in the panhandle with alex sink. but i still think that we on the other side, the democrats, the opposite, we should wake up. we shouldn't look at these polls and say oh, we're going win. he is a horrible governor.

we're going to be scott-free. that would be awesome. but the fact of the matter is we tend to vote less in midterm elections as democrats. we don't get out the vote as much. so if we don't do something to entice our base, get out our base, i believe we're going see a repeat of 2010 in florida. >> why do do you think that sink lost that special election on the gulf coast around tampa? i know that that's a hard place. the republicans have had it for a long time. and it was a very close race. it was only two percentage points. but do you view that as a tea leaf that it's going to be awfully tough in florida in 2014? >> no, i don't, because it's a very anglo saxon older area. and that's not what the rest of florida looks like. florida is very diverse. and certainly, those hispanic voters, african american voters, they vote for democrats, and they're going to vote for democrats, if we can get them out to vote.

which is why we have to work so hard on the get out the vote. and also the base. it was a base election. and i think that was something that should have been done a little bit more from the democratic side to entice the base to go out just like the republicans did. >> on wednesday, scott said that he would back a senate proposal here in florida to allow undocumented immigrants to qualify for in-state tuition, so long as they meet certain requirements. a couple of questions here. is this progress or is this just an attempt to pander to the latino and minority voters ahead of the election? >> it is amazing what an election will do to change this governor. this governor has been flip-flopping on a lot of things. but especially to appeal to the hispanic vote.

and this is all that is. it is very obvious that he still -- he still uses the word illegal to call these students who came here to no fault of their own, some of them very young. but yet he wants to change his mind about this because he is trying to appeal to the hispanic vote. i think we're all going to see right through that. >> what about -- he says that -- >> of course we're for immigrants and they're going to try to do certain things here and there. but at the end of the day that. >> don't. just look at the cpac event, where ann coulter said the

browning of america. i mean, this kind of comments are the comments that totally insult us as hispanics. and we know that they're just pandering and trying to say things, but at the end of the day, they just want our vote. >> okay. annette taddeo, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> chair of the miami-dade democratic party. and of course we're down here in miami for the weekend. we're doing a focus group tomorrow with a number of voters here in the miami area, and we'll bring that story to you in the coming days.