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off and he has less than eight months to do it. a lot of work. well, that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back here on monday. if you want to follow me on t t twitter you can. stunning news on that missing plane. officials now say it was a deliberate action that took it off course. no one know where is the plane is, yet. >> seven days ago, malaysia airlines flight mh 370 -- >> malaysian officials are not confirming it is a hijacking incident. there's surprising word on that. the brink in ukraine, what happens after the vote in crimea? will russia move in and might there be a war?
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>> drones paving the way for packages to come to your doorstep. we have the latest in big money headlines. good morning, everyone. welcome to weekends with alex witt. we have breaking news in the disappearance of the missing malaysian flight 370. for the first time, the planes erratic changes and course and the disabling were caused intentionally by someone on board that flight. >> this movement are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. in the latest development, the malaysian authorities refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. >> the malaysian prime minister was careful not to label it a
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hijacking and maintains officials are looking into all possible scenarios. >> despite earlier reports that the plane was hijacked, i wish to be very clear, we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused mh 370 to deviate from the original flight plan. >> the malaysian prime minister confirmed the jet liners last satellite communication happened at 8:11 in the morning, some 7 1/2 hours after the flight took off from kuala lumpur. it shifted from the south china sea to one as far north as thailand, the other from indonesia to the southern part of the indian ocean. stunning developments here.
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what else came out of kuala lumpur today? >> well, the malaysian authorities stepped up their investigation into the crew and the passengers. witnesses say that malaysian police arrived at the residential area of one of the pilots and investigators were there for two hours. this search comes as the prime minister described the disappearance of the flight as a deliberate act. this is what he said earlier today. >> over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. for the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane. >> reporter: now, families were shocked by the latest revelations. today, hundreds here in beijing were called into a conference room at the hotel where they had been camping out for the past
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week. they were told they would be watching a message from the malaysian prime minister live on state tv. the feeling in the room was very, very tense. the malaysian ambassador was present. malaysian caregivers were on stand by in case the families needed assistance. it was a very unnerving situation. at one point in the room, there was quite a bit of chaos when suddenly, there was the moment when he actually said the satellite communications were a showing that they had been -- they were still there seven hours longer than what people expected. a lot of people were very, very shocked. we heard gasps in the room. the reason is they were telling us that led them to believe it could be possible that their relatives might be alive. alex? >> it is extraordinary. i'm going to have my director
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put up a statement from the malaysian airlines and what they are saying. with regard to what they must be going through, the investigators, you used the word tense. how much pressure is there on the malaysia investigative team right now? >> reporter: a lot of pressure on that team and the airline. the airline officials here in china actually told the families this is now a criminal investigation and that any further information would be coming from government authorities. for the most part, the reaction here has been one of surprise. chinese authorities have weighed in. the chinese foreign ministry issued a statement hoping malaysia would increase their transparency with the information flow and also that they were demanding that malaysia call on all other countries to get involved in the search for the missing plane. alex? >> thank you very much for that. let's go to kerry sanders with
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more on the new shift on the hunt for the missing plane. you heard eunice talk about the numbers out there. it is a massive effort, what do you know about it? >> malaysia's prime minister says it is clear it's intentional. he stopped clear of calling it a hijacking. with word it was deliberate comes a new focus of where the plane may have went down. malaysia, india and the united states are concentrating their searches here in the bay and here down in the indian ocean. together, if you put those and did a search, it's like searching the continental united states. it's still a huge area. the u.s. has ryan class planes designed for antisubmarine can see day and night. if something is floating on the surface, they should be able to see it while the range is limited by the fuel they can
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carry, each mission can scan 10,000 square miles. investigators saying the pings coming from the boeing 777 is a big reason they believe this was intentional. had the plane gone down right away, the pings would not have continued for four to five hours. malaysia's prime minister says that would mean the plane could have gone down in the ocean or may have made it to kag stan. >> it's about the size of the u.s. if you put them together. what we know so far, 43 ships, 58 aircraft 14 countries involved, how long will it continue? >> we are not talking a two dimensional plane here. it is three dimensional because it's the ocean. in certain areas, it's two, two and a half, three miles deep. relying, as each day gos by that
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there would be something floating on the surface. remember, it would remain on the surface for a period of time and eventual eventually sink. if it goes down under the water, it becomes a more complicated task. remember, the goal here is to find the generalized area where it went down and bring in the resources to circle in that area. they have to look at the flow of the current. they have to look at the winds. it's very complicated. each day goes by, it becomes that much more complicated. >> absolutely. thank you very much from d.c. for that. anthony is a security expert in counterterrorism and a commercial airline pilot. what is going through your mind? >> it's clear at this point there was some human intervention on this aircraft. if there had been a fire in the cockpit or a fire in the hold
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where the electrical circuit breakers were located, there's a significant fire suppression there. the pilots have fire extinguishers to put out the fire and we would not have had that type of loss of only two systems. at 1:07 a.m., the data stream from the aircraft was shut down. at 1:23 a.m., the transponder, which provides an enhanced radar plot was also shut down. >> may i ask you, that would not affect the ability to continue flying. we have the reports it was in flight 7 1/2 hours after it took off. possible? >> very possible. the plane had enough fuel to do that. enough speed and range to get to the location where american and malaysian authorities believe it is. it followed a very deliberate
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course. now, that course was not preprogrammed into the flight management systems of the aircraft, which are the computer that is navigate the airplane. that flight management system, that computer that guides the airplane was programmed for beijing in this specific route that was provided at the time the plane took off. this course reversal, then, as it is west, northwest of the malaysian peninsula, it made two or three additional course changes, very deliberate, near knanear navigation weigh points. >> anthony, is this suggesting to you at all, possibly, that this 777 could have landed safely somewhere or is that impossible? >> it's not implausible. it is something that has to be put on the hypothetical list of considerations.
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simply because there are dozens, dozens of suitable airports for this aircraft to land. >> big enough to land a 777? how much airstrip does that need? >> well, at minimum, at absolute minimum, with a trained 777 pilot, it would require approximately 6500 feet or a mile and a quarter to stop that aircraft with the thrust reversers. preferably, a runway of 10,000 feet. there were about a dozen international and secondary airports with those runway lengths within the route that the aircraft flew, including over the islands that it flew within the indian ocean. >> among the most stymieing things is how long it has taken to piece this information together. to what do you attribute that? >> i'm afraid the malaysian government was not fully
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prepared or had the technical skills to conduct this type of massive search and technical investigation. at the time american authorities went in from the national transportation safety board, the faa and the fbi, they have the skill set to interpret the primary radar plot. they have the skill set to interpret all the other data that was provided. it was at that point, several days after the accident, that the information stream regarding what may have happened, the track of the aircraft, what altitude it was at. that information began to stabilize and has remained reasonably consistent since that time. >> okay. we are going to keep you around. thank you for weighing in, i appreciate it. >> what question do you have? you can talk to me on twitter. i will read your tweets throughout the day. how complicated is it to
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we can say with a high degree of certainty that the aircraft communications addressing and reporting system was disabled. >> that was the malaysian prime minister. he did not say the plane was hijacked. today, police began searching the pilot's house. gregg, welcome aboard. i'm glad you are here. i know you are officially with
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us. immaterial to ask you about your expert opinion. what were the most important points in the press conference? >> the most important points are clarification. they have said, this is an intentional act. this is nothing that could be classified as an accident. looking for something that could have been wrong with the airplane, that caused or at least resulted in some sort of safety of flight issue. >> we heard the prime minister saying in that news conference authorities refocused their investigation on the crew and passengers. does it surprise you that malaysian police are just now searching the pilot's house a week later? >> i am surprised. the fact is they are doing it. we have to be very careful. we keep throwing terms around, hijacking and piracy. you can have a hijacking of an
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aircraft by a flight crew member. we have used term members like silk air. it was the same thing. we had a hijacking of that aircraft that crashed the aircraft intentionally. now, they are going to look at the crew and see if they can find a motive. those were the two people, the captain and first officer thatue systems on that airplane. they have already done some level of background check on all the passengers. >> you say they are looking at the crew and the focus is there now. specifically, what do they look for in a situation like this? >> well, it gets down to the psychological profiling of those folks. were there personal issues in theieir lives that were detrimental to their future. they are going to look at their financial information, at their friends and see how interactive they were. when we did silk air, when that investigation was done, the day of the event, the captain was acting totally out of character
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than normal duties and actions. they are going to look for those characteristics that might shed light on why someone could do this, take over the aircraft and do something to kill not only himself, but those folks on board. >> greg, these communication systems, specifically the transponder and data flow systems, how complicated is it to turn them off? >> it's very easy to turn them off. you never have to leave the seat in the cockpit. a lot of people have made a big deal about the acar system. you can turn the data portion of that off from the cockpit. you never have to leave the cockpit or pull circuit breakers. you can turn the data portion off. it is evident it was off, yet the satellite was trying to ping the box. the box on the airplane was responding. it just didn't have data to provide. it's apparent the box itself was still operational.
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with the com radios, turn them off or don't answer the call. it's not necessary that you have to disable the radio. >> are there emergency systems that cannot be turned off? and if no, why not? >> with the transponders, alex, you need -- you need to turn those boxes off when you are on the ground because it creates clutter with the air traffic controllers when it's properly working. the big thing here is to have an emergency system up and running all the time for a tracking device isn't really practical because there are a number of situations where that would create radar-type clutter. however, there's a system, absb that is being integrated. it updates every second. it will provide air traffic controllers instantaneous data all the way through the entire
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flight and we could track an airplane such as mh 370 if it had been equipped with this. >> greg, what do you think happened? >> i firmly belief right now, it was, and we talked about it all week, i was relatively certain of it when i saw the hook in the radar data, it had to be human intervention. it wasn't preprogrammed in autopilot. they were headed to beijing. it isn't smart enough to turn itself around if there was an explosive decompression and the pilots pass out, it doesn't have that functionality. it took someone reprogramming or turning off the flight management system and manually flying the airplane through the auto pilot or hands on the control to make that turn and fly it away from destination. >> to conceivably land is that a plausible explanation for you?
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>> it isn't a plausible explanation for me because this is a very large airplane. 600 to 650,000 pounds. itis not like you can put it down in a jungle strip that is only 4,000 to 5,000 feet long. we talk about 6,000, 7,000 feet to land it. you are not able to hide an airplane of this size in the jungle or anywhere else. you have to have a facility that could accommodate it. trying to hide an airplane this big, just doesn't make any sense. >> greg, many thanks, appreciate it. >> you are welcome. the young and restless is having a hard time finding a judge. delivery drones. how they could be a reality in the future. the big three money headlines are next. but tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that's why we partnered with
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investigating all possibilities as to what caused mh 370 to deviate from its original flight plan. >> what we do know, the plane's communication systems were turned off by somebody on board. the flight sharply veered off course because of deliberate action and the plane silently flew in an unknown direction after controllers lost contact with the crew. joining me from kuala lumpur, kir simmons. today, we saw that inaction at the pilot's house where you are. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey, alex, that's right. two extraordinary things, i think, from the malaysian prime minister's press conference here. one was that he said that it was a deliberate act by someone on board the plane.
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the other was that they presented a picture of where the plane could be, which included a swathe of land. it may not have fallen into the ocean. meanwhile, as you say, now the investigation is not just into where the plane is, but who was responsible amid reports police searched the pilot's home today. malaysian police arrived at the gated community where the pilot of flight 370 lived this morning. two hours later, investigators left. they will be looking into who might be involved in the disappearance. the focus is on everyone on board, including the passengers. the first hour of the flight, there would be an opportunity to break into the cockpit despite security. >> if there was a real takeover, that would be the time where the crew members would be moving in and out to serve the cockpit the drinks. >> the captain, in his 50s,
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highly experienced. he logged 18,000 flight hours. his co-pilot, 27, relatively new with 2800 flight hours. the key questions, who else on board could fly a 777? who might have had a motive to take the aircraft and for what purpose? if the plane was hijacked, where was it going? there were prayers for the flight at the local mosque. friends call him quiet, a respectful man living with his parents in this home. >> very nice man. he comes and goes to work. when he comes back, he just greeted me, hello, hi. less is known about the pilot seen here in home improvement videos with a flight simulator at home. a man dedicated to flying. the malaysian officials aren't telling us much more than that. today, they canceled the second news conference.
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we weren't able to ask questions for more details about what exactly this all meant. one note of caution, this amongst many things is not a police investigation. they may be holding back information in order to benefit the inquiry. >> okay. keir simmons, kuala lumpur, thank you for that. >> former airline pilot, anthony roman. this information you are hearing, what do you make of that? >> well, there are not many groups in the general vicinity in china, malaysia, pakistan or india that could come on deer this aircraft. it is a remote possibility. however, there is a history of pilots common deering their own aircraft for a variety of reasons, suicidal or a radical purpose. if this was stolen, if the aircraft was stolen, there is one american precedent relative
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to planning to steal a major aircraft. back during the cold war, it's report thad the cia had actually trained to steal a russian aircraft and had plotted to land it at a remote airstrip, cover it with a giant tarp and sud study the systems and convince the russians the aircraft was lost. as remote and unbelievable as it sounds, there's a precedent for pilots doing that and there had been intelligence community plans to do just this kind of thing. >> it's extraordinary. sou sounds like it's out of a spy novel. with regard to how long it's taken to piece these separate pieces of information together and speculation, what do you make of that? it seems so unusual here seven days later. >> the malaysian authorities are
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not equipped or trained to interpret the data they had or to conduct and coordinate a multinational search for a major commercial passenger accident. they just were not. they were holding back information. the search was not well coordinated. data was being released to the press and to the public that was erroneous. once american authorities from the ntsb, fbi and i'm sure intelligence communities are involved, once they were involved, the data stream, the information stream became more accurate and more stabilized and remained consistent for several days. i'm quite confidence we are going to reach the end of one of the deepest mysteries in commercial aviation in history. >> okay. anthony roman, thank you very much. appreciate your insight. >> let os go to ukraine where all eyes are on crimea and
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whether they will secede from ukraine and join with russia. ian williams is in crimea joining me on the phone. welcome to you. is russia using intimidation tactics to swing this vote tomorrow? >> caller: good morning alex. that's how it feels here. there is an overwhelming russian majority here, but the growing evidence of intimidation. the human rights watch highlights the abduction at the hands of paramilitary forces and activists and journalists. we are, ourselves, saw this. two days ago, we interviewed a hospital here. an ethnic ukrainian. his hospital was stormed by
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irregular, i would say soldiers, but paramilitary carrying sticks and batons. they intimidated the staff, threatened them, then they left. it was a curious target. they seem to be particularly targeting him as an ethnic ukrainian. we heard last night, he is now disappeared, abducts, we fear. three heavily armed gunmen turned up at his home and took him away in a red van. this seems to become a pattern of recent days with abductions, threats and violence against proukrainian activists. on a bigger scale, we have the military build up on the east ukrainian border some 10,000 russian troops. he insists they have no intention of crossing into ukraine. only recently, he said he had no intention of annexing crimea.
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that seems to be moving ahead at full steam. so, a tense weekend here, alex, as we prepare for the referendum tomorrow. >> if it's a done deal, ian and crimeans vote to join russia what happens? >> caller: things could happen quickly. it depends on vladimir putin. he could pass the necessary laws in russia in order to bring crimea into the russian federation or he could let it stay in limbo for awhile as a pseudoindependent state. it's difficult to tell which way he'll go. all the signs are, he seems anxious to annex this place. >> okay. ian williams, thank you from crimea. back in the u.s., emergency workers are expected to reach the basement levels of two apartment buildings. eight people were killed in the blast.
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crews are searching to see what caused the blast. ice beginning to melt from the endless winter. a slap or ice slid off a roof. her car, it's totalled. it could have been worse. >> this could have been my child. this could have been my handicapped sister. this could have been the two children upstairs. this could have not been just my car. >> here is the irony, she just finished paying off the car. there's another storm on the way. dylan dreier is here with the forecast. good morning, dylan? >> good morning. it's going to be a nice day in the northeast. before the next storm gets going, there are a lot of question marks surrounding. i'll iron it out for you. 61 in dallas. 49 in new york city. 52 in washington, d.c. it is much colder across minneapolis, 22 degrees and colder still as you head further north. it's unsettled across the northern half of the country. spotty rainshowers that will
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fadeaway. a wintry mix in north central iowa. this low pressure across western texas is what we are going to keep an eye on. the cold air in the northeast is going to surge in. that arctic air is going to push this storm further to the south. at first, it was looking like new york could see snow. now, it looks like it's more a washington, d.c. thing. by the evening, heavy thunderstorms develop across eastern texas. we could see some severe thunderstorms later on this evening. that heavy rain will spread eastward into the southeast by the time we get into sunday at 2:00 in the afternoon. you can see on the northern edge of that, that's where we might end up with light snow. it should exit off the coast, clipping southern new jersey. it looks like mostly virginia will see the heavier snow. there's a lot of time to iron out the details. keep in mind, it looks like a mid-atlantic snowstorm. we are going to keep an eye out
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for storms moving into louisiana. chicago is back to 24 on sunday. 35 in new york city and we will keep an eye on that st. patrick's day storm. alex? >> thanks for that. in office politics, erica hill talks about a story that is the talk of the nation and the world, next. savings on car insu, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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there would be so many unknowns. initially, as sadly, we have been through issues with planes before, right? but it seemed like, well, maybe there will be a crash sight or somebody will have seen something. it's incredible that nearly a week into this, there are so many unanswered questions. it doesn't look like there are going to be answers soon. >> do you find it's dominating the conversation in the news room? >> not only that, but dominating conversations outside of work. so, i mean, it's normal for us to talk about these things a lot because it's what we cover and we are all so invested in giving people answers. i'm amazed at the conversations i heard on the subway. people talking about it in my town. my baby sitter was talking about it. for it to be on the minds of so many people, people have the fear of the unknown. people are still afraid, sometimes, when they get on a
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plane. as safe as flying may be,ette's the story that touched people. they feel, too, for the families. >> absolutely, i worry about not finding answers anytime soon and that bringing to mind conspiracy theories. >> owe know, people automatically, i admit, there was a part of me that think "lost." i'm a fan of the show "lost." there's a creepy element of that. i notice the conspiracy theories started monday. i was on my way to a shoot. somebody said i can't believe they haven't found that plane. what are they doing? let's think about what we know. two points of communication where communication was lost. we have, at this point now, tens of thousands of square miles. at that point, even if it was only hundreds or thousands of square miles in the ocean. it's a needle in a hay stack. i reminded him of the flight from rio to paris.
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they had a spot. we had parts of the plane that were found in the water. but, the amount of time it took for them to find the information that they needed in that little box in a trench at the bottom of the ocean, two years. >> you started at tech tv. >> yeah. >> tell me what that was like. did you like technology? >> i came in six months into the operation. it was great. i didn't have a huge head for technology, but it was interesting. it was the birth of so many things happening. it was in san francisco during the dot com boom. there were people that worked in news for decades tired of the grind of local news but felt passionately about good journalism and story telling. we had this group of people and a bunch of us fresh out of college. we learned so much. we tried everything. i think i did every job in the news room. it was an incredible experience. >> more of our conversation at
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the fate of bridgett ann kelly is in the terms of the new jersey state superior court. a general debating whether the former governor christi aid should be forced to turn over more e-mail and text messages. in a hearing on tuesday he invoked her fifth amendment right and insisted she's not guilty of any wrongdoing. joining me now is heather. good morning. one of the most interesting things to come out of this court appearance, as you know, kelly's lawyer would not admit that she sent the infamous time for traffic problems e-mail.
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isn't that irrefutable? >> her lawyer basically said he's not saying either way, whether it was true or not. but he is acting in her best defense and just saying that this has not been verified by a third party and has not been authenticated. and until that is true whether by a judge or another entity that could authenticate it he's not verifying it. >> do you get any indication from the judge's question on which way this is leaning? >> judge jacobson, she's interesting. she's had a lot of tough cases in new jersey. she was the one who allowed for gay marriage to go forward and she keeps her questions very straight. she does not tip her hand and she asks hard questions of both sides, particularly of the counsel for the committee seeking these documents. but she also really said in the case of kelly that as a former governor, employee of the governor's office she really had
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an obligation to keep these records, to not destroy them. they orren the server of the governor's office even though she was transferring them to her own personal account and that there was some obligation for her to retain those records which could mean that she needs to give them over. >> i know on thursday you covered governor christie's town hall. let's take a look at a response he had for one heck her. >> which is hard for a stay-at-home mom. >> one second. good, i'm glad you do. either sit down and keep quiet or get out. one of the other. we're done with you. go ahead. >> what was his overall reception like there? >> this was the governor's 113th town hall and these have inpart made him naturally. th he's never been heckled like this before so this was sort of a new dynamic that the dpof nor
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had to deal with. it is notable he did not call anyone an idiot adds he has been known to do in the past. he basically kept his cool. but six heck hers, they were all escorted out and he continued on with the questions he was asking. >> you note in this article here some feedback for question is that he seems to be defining his political style. how so? >> i think his aides acknowledge that the governor was known in the beginning of his term for his temper. and in some ways, again, that's really made him a national figure. but i think as they still hope that he can make a run in 2016 that they need to refine that a little bit. he needs to tone it down. so again there was no name calling. he kept pretty cool. and we'll see going forward. >> we will certain i do that with your help. thank you. >> that is a wrap of this hour of weekends with alex witt.
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malaysia's top official says that the missing plane's disappearance was deliberate. it was just one week ago today that we came on the air with breaking news of a missing passenger jet. just 40 minutes into its intended jurn to beijing, malaysian airlines 370 had disappeared from radar. this morning, seven mornings later it is still miss. and the clues as to what may have happened keeps changing. this morning comes news from malaysia where prime minister says that they now believe that
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