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malaysia's top official says that the missing plane's disappearance was deliberate. it was just one week ago today that we came on the air with breaking news of a missing passenger jet. just 40 minutes into its intended jurn to beijing, malaysian airlines 370 had disappeared from radar. this morning, seven mornings later it is still miss. and the clues as to what may have happened keeps changing. this morning comes news from malaysia where prime minister says that they now believe that
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the missing airline's communications were deliberately disabled and it veered off of course by the actions of someone on board. >> these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane. in view of this latest development, the malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, i wish to be very clear. we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused mh 370 to deviate from its original flight path. >> the prime minister also says that investigators also believe the airliner knew for more than
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7 hours after turning back from its flight path. the plane headed west. investigators are trying to trace the plane across two possible new flight routes, a northern accorder and a southern corridor which heads out over the indian ocean. there are reports that the jet experienced sharp changes in altitude after it lost contact with air traffic control, first up to 45,000 feet and then up and down unevely to 23,000 feet. then it also changed course more than once which would mean that was under the command of a pilot. on friday morning they expanded the serge to more than 27,000 nautical miles. it's a massive area to cover. this morning the malaysian prime minister said that the search in the south china sea, where the plane first lost contact, that that search would be ended. yesterday's big revelation, even
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after the plane dropped off radar it still managed to give off signals, automated pings that bounced off of satellites. so let me take you theu some of the rest of the twists and turns. there were reports that wreckage of the plane might have been found within hours of it missing, but two oil slicks off of the cost of vietnam proved to be false leads. early reports focused on the strange details that two passenger wrs travel with stolen passports. but it turned out they were two iranian citizens looking to immigrate to the west. my monday they were leaking reports that the plane changed coarse. malaysia authorities refused to confirm that statement at the time. the next day the search zone expanded yet again, 10,000 more
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square miles as of tuesday even. on tuesday a top malaysian police commander said he was now pursuing four broad scenarios of what might have happened. >> one is hijacking, two, sabotage, three psychological problem of the crew, and four, personal problem among the crew. >> by wednesday another possible lead in the soernl for the missing plane emerged a enthis time it directed investigators back to the south china sea where the plane disappeared. when china released photos growing grain any objects that they thought could be plane debris. also on wednesday, nearly a thousand personnel from the indian navy joined the search effort. the u.s. ves sl al schls. says
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the search. the u.s. believes that two communications systems on board the plane were turned off separately. hear's ou malaysian's defense minister described the search. >> as new information focused on the search, but this is not a normal investigation. >> and friday, as we mentioned, it was reported that the plane had experienced sharp changes in altitude and may have changed course more than once. which means that the u.s.s. kidd is one of 43 ships and 58 aircraft from 14 different countries surveying a proverbial hay stack in the north and the vast indian ocean in the south where the average depth can reach two miles all looking for a needle a little more than 200 feet long. i want to turn to the public affairs officer of the fleet. he's on board the uss blue
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ridge. it is the command ship for the uss kid. he joins us on the phone. thank you for taking your time. does the u.s. navy agree with what the malaysian prime minister said this morning that this plane was deliberately diverted? >> thank you. that really -- we're really at the tactical level here so our expertise in the seventh fleet are tactics, operations, freedom of maneuvering, searching, thing like that. as far as the intentions of the plane and things line that, i really can't get into speculating. i know i can tell you the uss kidd is ready, it's got two helicopters. ki tl you about their operations, where they're going tomorrow. ki tell you we brought in the latest most capable patrol aircraft in the world. that just flew its first mission today and we ale have that
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flying tomorrow. if you want to get into that i absolutely can go over all of our tactics and operations with you. >> we were hearing from the prime minister that the search in the south china sea has now been called off. we're hearing about these two different sort of zones where authorities are saying the plane could have gone, one going as far north as cass tan, the other, sbo the ind yab ocean. what is the u.s. navy doing to try to cover that? >> it is. the expanse is just staggering. our position right now is that we have uss kidd in the northwest. just to give you some contacts, when this first started in the gulf of thailand, that was a very defined area. when you have a -- a ship can, let's say it's moving at 15 or
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20 knots, nautical miles per hour, ships can cover that area with not too much difficult. now look over to the indian ocean. a ship is not going to cover the entire indian ocean. we have two mh 60 search and rescue helicopters. when you factor them and you're talking hundreds of miles of range, and then today we have two patrol aircraft searching missions. now we're talking, when you talk range there, they can get out there a thousand miles or more and really get some good search area. in addition, it has the most advanced surface search radar in the world that can look down there for this type of mission. >> thanks to u.s. commander william marks who is traveling with the uss blue ridge. for more on the story for where
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the plane originated from, we have kier. what can you tell us about that side of the investigation of the pilots? >> reporter: today it's reported that the pilots' home was searched by police. we were there to see the police arrive at the gated community where the pilot's family live and then a little while later, about two hours later they left again. quite a number of investigations there. who is the pilot and the copilot? the pilot is in his 50s, highly experienced, logging 18,000 flight hours. conversely the copilot is relatively new, logged 2800 flight hours. two different people with different levels of experience flying for malaysian airline. at the same time they're saying that everybody on that plane is
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being looked at. we've spoken to the president of the cabin crew union and he says within that first crucial hour of the flight there would be one opportunity, if this was a hijacking, there would be an opportunity to get in the cockpit. there's a moment in the first hour when the cabin crew give drinks to the pie let and copilot. they obviously have to open the door. you know there are safeguards around that at this time. they didn't, however in a news koorchs room where we couldn't ask questions. we know a lot more today. >> thanks to nbc's keir simmons. i want to turn now to greg feit. he's a former senior air investigator and joins us now from denver. greg, the reporting overnight, the malaysian prime minister saying this plane was
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deliberately diverted. based on -- you've been following this as closely as anyone. do you agree with that assessment? >> steve, i've been talking about that since last week. when you look at the official information where we only had one flight track based on civilian radar, there was still a number of possibilities, whether it was a mechanical problem with the aircraft, some sort of explosive decompression that may have rendered the cockpit crew and the passengers. but when they gave the radar up to show there was a track to the left for at least an hour, to me that said this was an intentional intervention by a human and that human would be one of the two pilots or both. so now, because i said it a week ago, that one of the possibilities was an intentional act and they have finally confirmed that based on their examination of the current
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evidence, that this was some sort of intentional act by the pilot, pilots or possibly someone else. >> yeah, because i guess that's the question. how -- to pull off a maneuver like this. how specialized is the training need to be? is this something that plausibly, you know, a passenger could have learned on his or her own and gotten control of the cockpit or would it realistically have to have been the pilots? >> based on all of the things that transpired, the shutting down of the transponders, the shutting down of the data portion of the acar unit. the fact that this plane is traveling over a large distance. you can't learn a lot of this stuff on a flight similar later that you have on your home computer. it had to be somebody that had a good fundamental intimate knowledge of the 777, its systems and how to operate that airplane. >> we're also getting the reports now that the search in the south china sea has been
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called off and now there's a large area, two sort of parts of that large area where the search is focused. one is northerly, and then there's this southern part that sort of goes indefinitely south in the indian ocean. do you have a sense which of those is more likely? is there a sense if one area is more likely than the other for where this plane headed off to? >> this is where logic comes into play. it's evident that whoever was flying the aircraft didn't want to be detected. that's why they turned off the transponders and the acar system and basically tried to go as stealth as possible. in these two tracks, if you were to take the northerly track, it takes you into a radar environment if you fly long enough. so why would you want to go that way if you're trying to avoid
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it? the best track would be to the south because you're now going over open ocean. there is no radar coverage down there. it's a vast expanse all the way to antarctica. if you wanted a airplane to disappear, that would be the place to go. i would believe they're going to have a lot of assets moving into that area and i would with surprised if they really didn't get australia involved to assist since i got a feeling that based on four, five, six hours of flight time this airplane wouldn't be down 0 in that area. >> i've got a couple more questions for you. we've got to get a break in here real quickly. we're also going to talk to a former airline pilot about some of the theories that are surrounding what could have happened.
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there's only one thing we
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know for sure about flight 370's disappearance, and that is we don't know much about flight 370's disappearance. and the vacuum of facts has spawned a litany of theories mplgs possibility that it was diverted to a secret location. >> an electrical failure of some kind. >> this has got to be a hijacking. >> there is informed conjecture. in an online chat room for pilots, some suspect a sudden loss of cabin pressure and the krrably less informed, there are more than a few tweets blaming aliens. >> aliens are low on my list of likely outcomes here. that's from nbc's "today" show yesterday. a public speculation about what happened to the flight is now growing. joining me is john cox and we still have with us greg feit who is a former ntsb investigator. so you were talking about just
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logic dictating that the plane was likely to head in so southerly direction. i guess that raises the question everybody has been trying to figure out all week. is there anywhere this plane could have landed that we know of? >> the only place, steve, is the water. the airplane would have been make probably landfall to australia, but that's going to be the criminal part of investigation. now that they've declared it an intentional act is try and determine what the tin tent of the flight was. there's been a lot of speculation that that were going to try and land the airplane and use it for some other malicious purpose, land it refuel it, put some bad stuff on it. i mean that makes for a great movie but it has no factual basis. when we did the air investigation in indonesia, the
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captain who took over that aircraft incapacitated his first officer and crashed the airplane. he had an intended purpose. unfortunately it was personal issues and he sacrificed himself and 104 passengers with him. they're going to have to dissect the information that they have available, to try and find what the possible intent of this quote hijacking is by probably one of the crew members. >> yeah, i think that's an important point to keep in mind. we start saying that the evidence points towards sabotage. it's not the equal to terrorism. it could be a captain, a crew member somebody had personal issues and decided to take the whole plane down. captain cox, i want to gring you in. keir reporting from ma shayla said there is an opportunity in the first hour of the flight where theoretically a passenger
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could make his or her way into the cockpit. they're serving meals or whatever to the cockpit. this was news to me. i thought in post 9/11 in flight this thing was possibly sealed off. >> it's possible. the door is open from time to time for the cabin service staff to provide drinks or for the pilots to get up and use the lavatory. so the door is opened occasionally. it's a carefully controlled process and procedure but yeah, there with possibilities here that it could be a passenger. >> and we have these reports about it might have changed direction multiple times. we know about the sort of sudden and dramatic change in coarse. we have other reports that it may have changed direction multiple times in possible kind of dramatic fluctuations in altitude. as a captain, when you see
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reports like that, what goes through your mind? >> well, there's actually a couple of different possibilities here. if the airplane dub i'll use this term very loosely -- was wandering, meaning it was not flying a specific track, that could indicate that the auto pilot is off, that it's in an in-trim condition but the crew is incapacitate pd. i really want to caution everybody. even in light of the malaysian prime minister's statements that it was a deliberate act, let's be absolutely sure we're factually based because we've seen so much during the course of this investigation unfold and turn one way and then another. if this airplane was flying without an auto pilot on and was what like the payne statute airplane until fuel exhaustion, that says crew incapacitation. if it's maintaining an altitude
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as the burns off 50,000 pounds of fuel, that's a commanded act and that's something entirely different. i'm not sure we have a factual base to determine which of these we have. what we do have finally is pretty continuous information that that continuity says that it's more likely valid. so bit by bit we're getting good valid information but i want to be very careful to make sure we don't step beyond what we really know based on fact. >> it's important obviously to be cautious. but i want to get you to respond to that a little bit. you seemed pretty certain earlier that the deliberate act idea works here and that, for instance, this idea of incapacitation like in the payne statute flight from 1999 doesn't apply here. take us through specifically why you are so confident in that, you know, particular outcome. >> based on the information i know and folks that i've talked to, the type of turn, the amount of turns that were taking place
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wouldn't be from an airplane that would be necessarily wandering. and then based on the ping track that they have on the at light arc, it was flying a pretty continuous straight line, if you will. now the fidelity of that data hasn't been established yet because it's still a long range view, if you will. but the fact is that when you lock at the circumstances right now, at least a portion of the initial def yags from the track to beijing was human induced, it had to have been manually input and that that airplane was under the control of someone to maintain the altitude that it stayed at relatively based on the current information throughout the flight. >> what a strange and bizarre mystery. of course there's 239 families who have now been waiting for a week to find out, just to get some kind of answer to what
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you may have heard the news. this was a big birthday week for the internet which turned 25, the big 2-5 on wednesday or maybe it didn't, as nbc news pointed out, the origins of the internet can be traced back to 1969 when the defense department created something which was a network of mainframe computers at major universities. so what did turn 25 this week is the thing that demock tiezed the internet that turned it into something that you and me and billions of other people take for granted as a part of our daily lives. the world wide web was created march 12, 1989. this is the internet as we know
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it. type in an address and you'll zip over to a site. then 25 years ago this week, while the web and big time american politics now go hand in hand, we thought woe would take a look back to the early days when politicians and their campaigns were trying to figure out what to do with this new toll. 1996, this was the first year that presidential campaigns had their own web sites. look at this. the ole dole/kemp '96 site is still up and running. you can follow him on the campaign trail and even still find elizabeth dole's pea can cookie recipe. thanks to livingroomcandidate.org, you can see what bill clinton and al gore's website looked like too.
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here this is when a presidential candidate tried to give out his address. >> this election is important. i ask for you support. i ask for you help. if you're going to want to get involved, just tap in to my home page www.dole comp 96.org. >> in 2000 the internet became part of a punch line you've heard once or twice or a million times by now. >> look, this is a man, he's got great numbers, he talks about numbers. i'm beginning to think not only did he invent the internet, but he invented the calculator. >> now that was never really a fair attack. but somewhere in america right now there is probably a republican who is still telling an al gore invented the internet joke.
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in 2004 you had the show case to mobilize the masses. that's when they used the site meetup to build an air my that transformed him into the favor to win the democrat nomination for president. then this there was this from president obama's first press conference as president in 2009. >> sam stein, huffington post, where's sam? >> thank you, mr. president. >> that was a bit of history right there. that was the first time ever that a president called from a weber on a web only news unit let during a press conference. 25 years later, 25 years after that birth the sitting president became the first to appear on a web only comedy show. maybe we should have seen the attacks coming but not everyone was laughing this week. we'll have more on why next. the passat tdi clean diesel gets up to 795 highway miles per tank. salesperson #2: actually, we're throwing in a $1,000 fuel reward card. we've never done that.
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obama sit between two potted plants that week to field questions from zach galifianakis, you were among millions of americans that did the same thing, including the president's own daughter. >> when i was at the dinner table with the girls and i said, well, you know, today i did something with zach, it's called two ferns, i think, malia was so excited. she had seen all of the priest episodes. so i figured that it was going to reach our target audience which was a lot of young people and it turns out that we've now had i think close to 15 million hits. >> i was quite a serge after you did that. >> and the amazing thing is afterwards, what happened was people did link to healthcare.gov and people actually signed up for health insurance. it ended up working. but i think i've got to keep my day job. >> this is not the first time a sitting president has turned to the emerging medium of his age
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to correct with the country. remember the richard nixon trying to change his image by popping up on "laugh in". >> sock it to me. >> i don't think that was supposed to be a question. then there was the choose or lose mtv news forum when he bill clinton was asked if he preferred boxes or briefs. >> mr. president, the world is dying to know, is it boxers or briefs? >> usually briefs. i can't believe she did that. >> i can't believe it answered it. he probably could have ducked that question. we know that barack obama was able to get some credit with his daughter by suggesting himself to the awkwardly grillings of
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zach galifianakis. even if a fraction of the 15 million people that the president mentioned watched him and were encouraged to sign up, then you can call it a success. that is not how everyone is measuring this appearance. >> it would be nice in obama respected the office. when he does things like this it diminishes himself. >> what other president can you picturing during something like this. >> abe lincoln would not have done it. there comes a point where serious times call for serious action. >> that was this week. it's not the first time we've heard this kind of things recently. two weeks ago when the president spent part of his weekend on a 90-minute phone call with vladimir putin, he was criticized for conducting it in a den anymore shirt. there have been other sin stances for obama being accused
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of dressing more casual. that may have had something to do why as a candidate, george w. bush made the dignity of the office of the president an expolicive campaign issue. >> honor and dignity in the white house is an issue in this campaign. >> the objective has got to bring some common sense and integrity into washington, d.c. >> i will swear to uphold the honor and dignity to the office which i've been selected so help me god. >> i learned the hard way that the entire town places a lot of emphasis onward robe, even folks who aren't conservative in poll sicks are conservative to clothing. what i thought was to be a casual sitdown, when it was over and i was back at my desk, one of my colleagues told me i was expected to wear a jacket and tie around any member of
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congress. that the khakis and button down i was wearing was a sign of respect. no tie can't come in, no jacket can't come in. ladies can't come with in with no sleeves. obama usually wear as suit and tie when it niece the oval office. it's only at night and on the weekend that his dress code relaxes. the current white house photographer resorted to the twitter verse this week to remind his follows of his own photos of ronald reagan. there are those who obsess over the dignity of the office to the point that as jonathan wrote this week, it becomes fete chiezed. is it denoded by the style of man or the substance of the policies he influence. some may say that clothes make the man. what suits a president to
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signify that he or she is in the office. alex, isaac and liz win stead, the cokre yart of the daily show and author of the book, "live free or die." the dignity of the office of the president. i mean on one level you can see it's sort of conservatives attacking obama and maybe they saw an opening here so they decided to use it. this is something that's been talked about before the obama presidency. it's hard to define. how would you define what does that mean, the dignity of the office of presidency. what do you have to do to uphold that. >> i think americans do expect their president to treat the office itself with a certain amount of dignity. but i do think the most demeaning thing that could happen to the president is to have his signature legislature
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fail. they knew this would be helpful. and little known fact, abraham lang kon tried to do "between two ferns" and was rejected. >> i can't believe they would have rejected him. was there anything, you know, that zach galifianakis was being very absurd in the interview. is there something to the idea that that's beneath the president to do that in. >> no. but you know, it is sort of a bipartisan thing to get upset about this. mike mccurry who is the press secretary for president clinton during the monica lewinsky scandal came out and said this hurts the dignity of the office. so it's dech natalie a bipartisan thing. but look, i think obama decided republicans have been saying young people aren't signing follow-up for health care so he did something to get young people to sign up for health
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care and then he gets criticized for it. >> we live in 2014, is dignity some set in stone rule in i mean i think it's really embarrassing to be holding to certain standards. first of all, i think that people who have been unemployed for two years really would like a job. i think that undignified hearings on the hill by darrell ie so that go nowhere, with e h's wearing a tie. i think people look at dignity that i actually want my leaders, i don't care what they're wearing, as long as we get the economy going and the health care gets fixed. >> what do you think about the attacks? do you think the attacks have gained any traction, the picture of obama in the jeans or just you know going on this web series. doing that gains any traction outside the conservative base? >> i think the tar get is probably the conservative base. if it's in their larger
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narrative that he's weak, not a serious president, you could even go all of the conspiracy theories about the president. it's sewing a seed of doubt in the president about whether he deserves to be in the office. the symbolism of the office is important when he rolls up in air force one that make as statement. but it should have a purpose, a point. wh here he had a point of demeaning, if you will, the dignity of the office. look at the cost benefit of when you do this. here he was correct. >> there is a line. so when president obama or any american president goes overseas and meets with foreign leaders, he's the head of state. it's not always the case. so he really is representing not just his own administration, not just husband political party, he is representing the united states. so there does have to be a line somewhere there that the dignity -- i think back to the
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speech, his health care speech to congress in 2009 when joe wilson shouted out, you lie. i think the action to that and sort of a lot of republicans objected to the it as well, that showed disrespect for an office at a certain level should be above that kind of thing. >> also not really civil discourse on a big issue. if i could go back, some of this is predictable criticism of republicans. i think that mike mccurry's point was a little different. certain think there was no more undignified period in modern american history than when the white house was dealing with the monica lewinsky scandal. here is something he did during that time. he got a different person to answer the questions about the affair, landy davis. he tried to have it separated from the business of the regular white house briefing. it didn't entirely succeed but i think he did see this even at this point as something you wanted to preserve the sense
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that there was -- besides whoever this particular president is, there is a presidency that is worth preserving. i do think there is something about the dignity that you need to pay some attention to. >> that's the point in the way that mike mccurry was there during the clinton scandal and there was an embarrassing scandal and yet the presidency survived. >> president clinton, you know had an affair with an intern. this is i wore a den anymore shirt in the oval office. i decided to actually do some research and try to contact with moung people when your party has to do an autopsy on its dead carca carcass. i'm sorry, the parallel is so completely different and false and the narrative is false. and you know the base they're trying to reach on twitter are sitting in their basements tweeting wildly. >> this is actually something
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so let's go back about 90 years and show you another moment in presidential dignity. this was calvin coolidge in 1927. he was being named an hon nair chief of a tribe in south dakota. his adviser warned him not to wear the head dress. they told him you might look silly. he said it's good for people to laugh. he put it on any way and that picture, calvin coolidge is a sense of humor is something that has not been recorded much in history. that is an example going back 90 years when people were wondering -- >> not to mention, i don't think that tribe wanted him to be laughing. so the bigger thing is that he thought it was funny and they
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thought they were honoring him. >> i think it speaks to an inherent tension in the american presidency. on one hand we want our presidents to be a normal citizen and have a beer with them. on the other hand we want them to be the a monarch with all of the trappings of the presidency. >> it also goes to the dangers of putting things on your head, like the helmets, don't do that, indian head dress, probably not. the first president i covered was ronald reagan and people constantly gave him hats, he would never put them on his head, he would hold it up, they would take a picture and he would hand it off to an aid. >> what you're saying is true. it's like there's been this -- i think in the last generation particularly with the explosion of cable television, the internet, there is that side of the american public that wants the office of presidency to have this elevated thing but you also
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want to get to know the president as a person. it's sort of a turning point in 1992 campaign and that's when bill clinton went on the ar seen no hall show, he played the sax phone. president bush said those late night comedy shows were beneath the dignity of the office and he would not be appearing on them. but now they're in an era where george w. bush in post presidency goes on, i've seen him on jay leno. barack obama was the first to go on a late night comedy show as president. we want to see them as human beings. we want to know they can laugh, right? >> i think that laughter, if somebody makes you laugh it's an involuntary happy reaction so you can't help but like that person even for a second. you feel like you just brought me joy, if i hated you before, i hate you maybe a little less.
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but it is an opening. and if you can get someone to find you humorous, make you feel good, it helps you get your message out. >> and the power of sorrow too. i think about in 2008 at the new hampshire primary right before the vote when hillary clinton kind of famously choked up. i was on a cable show that week and i said this is a horrible thing, women are allowed to cry. but it was so good. inkresingly we expect to see a little bit of the vulnerability of the inside of the candidates. >> there was also, i remembering in the first year of his vice presidency, al gore had the reputation of being wooden and stiff, the robotic vice president. and he went on the letter man show in 1993 and he did this -- he was talking about wasted inefficiency in government. he did this whole demonstration. this is how the 200-page
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government manual would tell you how to dispose of garbage. he got laughs. >> he had the greatest joke on letter man where he says i pick joe lieberman who's going to work for you 24/6. it was my favorite joke -- i will never forget how hard i laughed at that. >> just to go to the has pack kracy, every four years it's this al smith dinner where they make jokes and dresed in tuxes and so on. these jokes, some of them are inappropriate. but this is seen of being part of the way that the presidential candidates operate. it's sort of accepted. but when obama does something, going on jach gal fa nick kifias different.
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what many other states would like to change. this week that state was ut u. they are moving to move their primary ahead of iowa. even though the national committee has carved out special exceptions for iowa and south carolina and nevada, some were willing to see their delegation slashed as punishment from ho degree gates to only nine. that bill sailed through the utah house on monday but failed to sufficient a vote in the senate before the session expired on friday. so bik churs of the can dates in iowa at the butter cow are still prominent. what about its relevance. iowa state republicans are now taking some dramatic steps to alter the impression of their party. take a moment and go back in time here to 12 when republicans from around the country gathered inside a marina in tampa to
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crown mitt romney as their presidential nominee. the political parties get out the banners and the fun hats, all of the trappings of the good ole days when conventions really mattered and it took 40 bat lots in a back room for the party to pick its candidates. these days it's all for a party to steal a few hours of their message on television. at that 20125 convention in tampa, not everyone was reading from the same script. >> the first of the nation caucus state that serves our political process by rewarding hardworking liberty loving candidates with delegates to this magnificent convention. iowa casts 22 votes for ron p l
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paul. and 6 votes for mitt romney. >> now, this didn't happen because ron paul won iowa's caucasus. he finished third place on caucus night. but while those are the iowa caucasus that we all remember from 2012, they were actually just the start of a convoluted months long process through which republicans in the state would select their delegation to tam pap. basically there were more caucasus after the oorj nal 'cause kas consist and more after those. even though romney wrapped up the nomination, ron paul's supporters mobilized. since no one else in the party was doing the same thing, they won. i was also during that time that the state party chairman stepped
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down and they elected one of their own to succeed him. in june of 2012, ron paul support ares cleaned up at state and district nominating conventions, those were the conventions that picked most of the delegates to tampa. so it was that the ron paul win got to go to tampa. it that it got to crash mitt romney's party. it got to declare their state as a ron paul state. and more importantly, it was the ron paul wing that because of all of this, won control of the state republican party, the official party organization in the crucial first in the nation caucus state. now, all of this set the stage for a battle that is played out over the last two years, a battle between the traditional party establishment that hated losing control, that fared the importance of their caucasus might be undermined with the paul crowd in control, it was a battle with that establishment and the poll crowd, the liberty movement who has seized power and didn't want to give it up.
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it is a battle that finally came to a head just this past week. this is terry brand stad. he's an institution in iowa republican pal ticks. he's now in his fifth term as governor and he's running for a sixth term this hall. he's spent much of the last two years at odds with spiker. spiker is the state chairman who was elected in 2012. one example of this tension, take the straw poll. that's the cattle call for all of the major gop candidates. it does help raise money for them, after all they charge $30 for a vote, some of the campaigns pay for the voter to come in. it's a bit of an embarrassment for main strain republicans. they feel that the straw poll is costing their state party the prestige and costing their state some of the clout in the republican nominating process.
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this just after the 2012 election that brand stad flat out called for an end to the ritual of the true poll. he said i think it's outlived his usefulless. it's been a great fun raiser for the party but i think its days are over. he expanded on those comments this past august. >> anybody who wants to can have a straw poll and i think that's fine. i don't have any problem with that at all. my interest is protecting the iowa precinct caucasus. that's the first real test of voters. we also know that straw polls have not very scientific and whoever wince a particular central poll is not a good indicator of who is going to win the caucasus. >> when bran stad said that, a.j. spiker fired back that it would be detrimental for any campaign to skip the tunt presented. and i disagree with governor
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bran stad about ending the straw pal. that kind of open disagreement wean the top elected firl and the top party official has been the story of iowa politics for the past two years. the state i'd officials who competed in and won general elections versus grass roots activists who won their positions by organizing and showing up for saul caucasus and conventions that the establishment wing skipped. republicans intent on mod rating the party's image versus the ones that want them to embrace the libertarianism. this was a problem for iowa republicans because with rand paul gearing up to run in 2016 and his suspect supporters controlling the iowa republican party, the question is would it delawsuit the level of interest in it from the national press and other candidates. would it give them an easy excuse for them to skip iowa. and that brings us to what just
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happened in iowa and really what's been happening over the last two years. bran stad and the state's republicans fully absorbed why and how they lost control of their party and sout out to win it back out outmobilizing the liberty wing and it seems to have worked. county conventions were held across the state last saturday and bran stad's forces won big. talked to the establishment crowd and they'll tell you that the liberty republicans were incompetent, they didn't have the experience or the no-how to run a state organization. and by the end, they were ready to turn the reigns over to the br branstad crowd. talk to the liberty crowd and they'll paint a much rosier picture of chairmanship, money in the back, voter registration numbers. but if there's a consensus it seems 0 to be that bran stad's success meant that spiker's days
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as chairman were numbers. which may explain that news broke as soon as the results were in that stieker would be stepping down at the end of the month and also announced that he's signing on with rand paul. bran stad and the establishment are no back in charge. that means it should end the straw poll as we've known it. political junkies will have to find something else to go crazy over in august of 2015. there are still some kinks that the republicans have to work out, like on the fact that the night of the 2012 caucus, the party declared mitt romney for the winner only to reverse itself weeks later and give the victory to rick santorum. now iowa and its politics have changed dramatically over the years. 34 years ago george h.w. bush
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ran for president as a supporter of abortion rights in the equal rights amendment and he won the republican caucuses over ronald reagan. then the state became fert l ground for the religious. and avenn gel call chris chance are now a huge part. mike huckabee was the binner there in 2008. and the more recent story is the rise of ron and rand paul libertarianism. david yep son who covered iowa politics wrote, iowa is first because candidates believe they get a fair shake on a level playing field. there are no machines, organizing is not that expensive. but adds the iowa gop emerges from a two-year civil war, the question of how important it will be in 2016 looms large. is the iowa republican
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electorate too far out there or is the rise of the liberty republicans, even with their setback last week, a harbinger of where the national republican party is right now and where it wants to go in 2016. joining us to discuss this we have anthony tur rel and all around expert on all things rand paul and producer now at nbc. anthony thanks for joining us. you have done some reporting in the last few days about what exactly went down in iowa in the last week. can you take us through what you know? >> sure. it's my understanding that doug stafford, senator rand paul's chief of staff, he's now running rand paul's super pac got in touch with striker before what we saw on tuesday and he decided a.j. striker decided to take this position. bran stads supporters say that
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a.j. saw the writing on the wall. he knew that the bran stad folks were making a big push at ousting the liberty republicans. and it if it wasn't for the incompetence, what the bran stad reporters are saying, they were fed up with the amount of money not being raised, donors not receiving phone calls in two years. supporters of a.j. striker told me this was their way of taking over. and something else that's come up is that the state party wasn't defending against charges against branstad so democrats are attacking governor bran stad and the republican party has been silent is what they told me. >> how many of a sea change is this now with spiker stepping aside, branstad having control over it. how much of a sea change is this for the iowa republican party in terms of what that means for
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2016? >> the folks who are going to be elected at the conventions will be the ones ultimately in charge in 2016. i was hearing it would appear rigged if the liberty folks would have stuck around and won for rand paul if he decides to run for president. it would appear rigs and the candidates would have skipped iowa, which would hurt iowa. so with a.j. spiker moving on, this opens up iowa for 2015, 2016 for candidates to come into the state to see that bran stad's running the state, it's competent, they're looking at the senator race that's open with tom har kin retiring. they're be able to focus on the tickets that bran stad is clearly going to win the primary. >> and this is something that's always struck me when i look at new hampshire and iowa. they both have that status, the first in the nation status, the
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primary in new hampshire, the caucasus in iowa. new hampshire is purr perpetually under threat. whoever is the governor of the state, it sort of falls on that person to really protect the primary, protect the caucus. it matters so much to the political class that they get this kind of attention every four years, the access that comes with that it. sounds like terry bran stad took it on ims saying i want to make sure that iowa continues to have this primary role. >> i asked a supporter of striker about that and they seem to have the support. that in the rules iowa is not going to be threatened. what they were worry about was folks not showing up. they will be first in the nation but folks won't show up and won't bing the money. with a.j. spiker being gone, the bran stad folks running the
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party coming up in june, that gives other forces a chance to come into iowa. someone i spoke to close to spiker said if he was running the game, why didn't he bring in mike huk bee? why is he bringing in paul ryan. they point to these sort of things as they look that a.j. didn't try to rig the state for rand paul. he's opened it up to other potential candidates. >> so the liberty movement doesn't control the levels of power. in they are still a major part over the republican party in iowa. the caucasus still go on. anthony is going to stay with us. when we come back we're going to bring in our panel and talk a little bit more about what all this means. on the day she arrived in london. someone set up a bogus hotspot, stole her identity and opened some credit cards in her name.
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fair. i am in line to get some fried butter. it's 11:00 a.m. and this going to be my brunch. mmmmm. look at that. ewwww. >> that's a stick of butter. >> yes, that was nbc news came pan anthony tur rel who survived the 2011 iowa state fair is back at the table to join us. joining him is jennifer jacobs. he's the chief politics reporter, jennifer page, and alex, the political correspondent for the national journal. i'mgoi going to ask you, how ma heart attacks did you have? >> none. i finished that off with a large mountain dew. >> so jennifer, we were going
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through the two-year battle. the sort of establishment forces winning. but the bigger threat here that we're talking about is the relevance to have iowa caucasus. it's something that matters a lot to terry branstad. we looked at the evolution of the state to the point where like you could have that straw poll in 201 and michele bachmann would win it. are republicans concerned that they are not going to be as taken as seriously in 2016 as they have been in the past? they won't be quite as formidable in picking the nominee. >> i think they're beginning to heal the wounds. a party cannot fly in the face of a governor and not expect to be a backlash. theory branstad had has too much at stake to allow a bunch of renegades to be guarding the castle. it's not like they were in constant conflict. there were moments of cooperation but there was enough tension and enough, you know,
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undercutting that it was an untenable situation. but the branstad folks have been able to continue and get what they need done. there are enough outside groups that they were able to get their things accomplished. the state party can be a central plier or it can be a sideline player. it's not like branstad's folks going into the 2014 elections would have been crippled without control. what that changeover means is that it's a very satisfy coo for the people who want the it to happen. i do think that things are healing, wounds are being stitched up and they're getting stronger. >> about the evolution of poll picks in iowa and iowan republican politics. this is -- when these caucasus first started, it as pro-choice, proequal rights candidate who beat ronald reagan in the iowa republican caucasus.
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eni think the stat i saw in 2012 was something like 60% of the caucus goers were self identifi identified avenn jell call chscs chan ps how big of a force are they in politics now? is it in line where the republican party is nationally or is it further out there? >> i do think it's in line with where the party is now. the liberty faction is definitely a small part of the gop. and then you've got the very other fashions. when we talk about the branstad appliance, it's not just the establishment pipt's a whole coalition of tea parties, a whole collection of people that want to get things done. i think there's a wide number of different factions and they're starting to come together. >> so susan, i wonder, as a
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national reporter looking at iowa and lacking ahead to 2016 open thou to cover it, on the republican side, when you look at what happened in 2012, when you look at the straw poll itself which apparently branstad wants to get rid of, when you look at the fact that it took them two week to sort out who won the caucasus and all of the uplooefl right now that we just outlined. as a reporter do you look at iowa a little differently than you used to? is there a risk here with iowa and the national media? >> not that it isn't wonderful to go tow iowa during the winter months because of the nice weather and easy plane connections, but i think iowa was at risk of losing the stature that it worked so hard to gain over the last couple of decades. the iowa straw spol a way for if gop to extort money from
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candidates. shame on us for covering it. and the iowa caucasus, if fact thaw they were unable to count the votes that night, they declared the wrong person the winner. what if we had known that night that santorum had won. it would have changed thing for mitt romney. i think governor branstad is rescuing iowa too keep its position as a place we really pay attention to. starting in iowa, it's a rural state, no big cities, it's not diverse. it's almost entirely white. on the other hand, the people of iowa take this seriously. so i think a valuable thing to say but i think governor branstad can argue that he's saved iowa from itself. >> when you look at iowa, i mean i guess this's a question here of the democrat versus republican caucasus. what susan just said, no major cities, not that diverse, that's no in line with the demographic profile of the democrat party
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but it is more in line with the republicans. do you still see iowa as a good barometer of where the national republicans are? >> i think anytime you have a process where we do whether you're going to pick any state to go first, there's going to be fraud. despite the fact that there's no major city, barack obama still won in 2008 so it is still possible. you don't have huge media markets where you need to spend a ton of money to get on the air. so i think that's a good thing. it evens out the playing field a little bit. there are certainly other states that can play that role. but since iowa has that established, it's hard to -- >> yeah. we'll pick this up in a second and talk about the name on the republican side who kind of hoovers over all of what's been happening, the prez dem contender, rand paul and what that this means for him and his prospects in 2016. meet our cont.
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so if anthony, if the consensus here is right and the iowa caucus and their relevance has been saved for 2016, i almost think the big winner out of that is rand paul even though it's his people who have lost control of the state people because his voters are still sort of there in large numbers. he could be very plausibly go out there and win it. >> and the organization is still there for ron paul. if you look at 2008, he wond 11,817 votes. in 2014, he was up 14,000. those people are still this, the ron paul voters. when i was covering a lot of his campaign, they all had laptops out and taking down names, e-mail address, phone numbers and saving that. that went to the campaign for liberty. that's ron paul's super pac.
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campaign for liberty is where ron paul is at and iz a lot of his staffers. so when rand paul goes back to run, that organization is still going to be in iowa. he's still in the state and he's got the second amount of votes in the convention. so liberty folks are still in iowa. the establishment of what he built in 2008, 2012 is still there. rand needs to build on that 21, 22% ap enfrom an establishment person in des moines told me, if rand paul can't get over 22, 25%, what's the point in running. >> so has he -- are there signs, jennifer, that his sort of brand of libertarianism is his role in the republican party in iowa, was it more popular than it was years ago. until the rise of ron paul i always thought of iowa as the christian conservatives.
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there seems to be a fusion of those two things going on. >> ron paul was wring in the democratic and moderate voters. they really were modest people. now the liberty faction in iowa is its own fusion of tea party and evangelical. it's not libertarianism at all. >> the temptation is to look another the vote totals say that any vote that ron paul got in 2008 is a vote that rand paul is going to get. rand paul is more of a politician than ron paul and i wonder how many of those ron paul votes were people who were completely outside of the political system were inspired by the purity of his libertarian message and the son is too political for them and they stepped back out of politic. maybe we're making a mistake in saying that rand inherits everything that ron had.
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>> i think rand gets a big step up with ron paul supporters. up with of the biggest republican stories of the year has been the way that rand paul has expanded his influence. he's working with eric holder on the issue of sentencing we form. the filibuster he staged on drone issues. he's done something his father never managed to do which is expand his appeal to become a broadly acceptable candidate. he won the cpac stra poll a week ago. he's in as good a position as anyone for the iowa caucasus. it looks me to rand paul is on his way to winning the war. >> is the consensus here the straw poll itself, that is gone? we've seen the last one of those. >> the iowa straw poll is dead. i think it's safe to say that. it did place a premium in money and iowa's advantage in going first is you can have the
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candidates that have no money come in and do the retail politic to get an edge, handshake, look people in the eye, answer every question they have kind of politics. you might see some sort of a party building activity like a cpac style event. but i do not expect to see a straw pal. >> what chairman is going to give up a million dollars fun raiser. >> i guess the question is how many candidates will actually contest it. >> let me quote david, he said if candidates come then the media will come. in media is in iowa, then the candidates will be there sfl you get to eat the fried butter all over again. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> i want to thank anthony terrell. we'll see you again at the end of the hour ap and jennifer jacobs thanks for coming in. co. coming up next, florida's newly elected congressman as you
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when you win a special election to congress as a republican in florida did this week, it's probably an exciting moment for you. but you don't always get the added exhilaration of an introduction like this. >> congressman david jolly, come on down. ♪ >> that is florida's new republican congressman david jolly being introduced by legendary "price is right" host bob barker. if you thought that house race was heated with wait until you see game two of u "up against the clock" tournament of champions. three for scheming to out wit each other for one more spot in the championship guam. can you handle the drama? it continues in mere moments.
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it's time for a special tournament of champions edition of "up against the clock." it's the intrepid susan page. you already know he's a political reporter but did you know that he acted along jamey lee curtis in the 1996 classic "house arrest"? it's the nult talented alex wall. and he's the number one overall seed in the tournament who's also won a james bond trivia contest and a listen to compete here today. watch out it's isaac. and now the host of "up against the clock" steve kornacki. >> thank you, bill wolf. thank you studio audience and thank you for tuning in at home.
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we have arrived. it is the second of our three preliminary round matches in the up against the clock tournament of champions. last week we saw was feed's kate win a dramatic last second victory to win her pool and advance to the big national championship game on april 5th. and today the second of those three spots in that championship game is on the line. the three people standing on contestant's row right now for hand picked by our selection committee for their impressive play. they are susan, alex and isaac. rules remain the same. questions will get harder as we go along. contestants you request ring in any time but you will be penlized for wrong answers. i will remind our live studio audience to remain absolutely silence, no outbursts while this
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game is in play. with that, i'll ask the contestants, are you ready to play? >> no. >> tough luck. we'll begin with 100 seconds on the clock and it begins now. democrat alex sync who lost in tuesday's special congressional election in florida was also defeated in the state's -- susan. >> race for governor. >> incorrect. it was also defeated in the 2010 gubernatorial election by whom? isaac? >> rick scott. >> correct. 100 points. the chairman woman of the senate intelligence committee accused what agency -- susan. >> cia. >> accused of spying on krongs nal computers. a bipartisan deal was struck in the senate -- ie zam? >> jobless befrts. >> incorrect. >> extended jobless benefits if are the long term unemployed. >> incorrect. i'll read the request for alex.
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a bipartisan deal was struck in the senate on thursday to reauthorize emergency unemployment benefits for how long? alex? >> five months. >> five months is correct. hundred point tossup question. on friday scott brown announced he's planning to form a senator committee the first step that could lead to him challenging what incumbent? suz. >> jean sha heen. >> this is instant bonus. when he was first elected to the senate in 2008 whom did she defeat? >> bob smith zbl. >> incorrect. >> this ban was list fted on thursday for this company -- >> bp. >> as ski, a former florida governor who passed away on thursday at the age of 85 sought
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the democrat nomination -- >> walter mon dell. >> that brings us to the end of the 100-point round e. and it looks like alex in the lead there. a very close game and the stakes only get higher as we move to the two 200 point round. put 100 seconds on the clock. we'll continue with this. what 2012 presidential candidate proclaimed this week on jimmy kim that he -- yes, alex. >> rick perry. >> says he does interviews with a gun. facebook cofounder mark zuckerberg revealed on thursday that he had a telephone conversation with president obama to express his frustration on this -- isaac. >> nsa spying. >> correct. 200 point question. senator mark baggage unveiled
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new ads in this state this week -- >> americans for prosperity. >> which had previously run adds attacking him. >> the fit annual women in the world summit will be head looind next month by a conversation featuring hillary clinton and christine who is the direct ter of this organization -- suz. >> imf. >> correct. president obama will mark his sixth consecutive year filling out an ncaa bracket after selections are announced tomorrow. how many times has the president correctly picked the national champion? ie zam. >> see ro. >> incorrect. >> alex. >> two. >> incorrect. >> susan. >> one. >> name the team and the year he correctly picked the champion. >> geez. okay. i have no idea. i'll say the crickets are -- >> we'll have to call time on
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this. it was north carolina in 2009. 200-point question. during the talk a thon this week on climate change, senator ed markey turned ted cruz's filibuster tactics against him -- >> kbreen eggs and ham. >> incorrect. by reading from what other book by children's author dr. seuss? we'll call time. it was the lorax. read from the lorax. that brings us to the end. susan has taken the lead with 400 points. alex at 200 still. alex at 100. but ladies and gentlemen everything can change in a heart beat when we play the round of champions, the 300 point round. this our ph.d. level. remember a spot in the championship game is on the line. we'll put 100 seconds on the clock and when it's over we'll know who's playing in the final. a bill allowing candidates in this state to seek both presidential and -- alex.
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>> kentucky. >> kentucky. 300-point question. in a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll released this week, 43% of voters say they're less likely to vote for a congressional cant date -- >> supports the affordable care act. >> incorrect. supports this movement. alex. >> tea party. >> correct. sar ray pay len indorsed state senator chris mcdaniel -- susan. >> the mississippi senator. >> correct. in the senate democrat all night session on climb change this week, this senator who chairs the energy and national -- susan. >> senator am hof. >> incorrect. who chairs the energy and national resources committee and faces a difficult reelection race in 2014 chose not to participate. we're going to call time. it was senator marry land drew.
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quote, i may not be a marine but i am marine life proclaimed this film star at a screening at the white house wednesday of his new movie where he received honors from the joint chiefs of staff -- susan. >> tom hanks. >> incorrect. for his work with military station. the actor was kermit the frog. president obama on thursday announced he would review his deportation policies to make them more human. name one of them. and we are going to call time. that brings us to the end of the game and alex wall with 800 points. has won the pool, has advanced to the national championship. congratulation to you. alex since you'll now play in the national championship, bill wolf is going to tell you what
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you're playing for. >> congratulations. as today's winner you've earned a spot in the "up against the clock" finals next month if you'll face off for the grand prize. two amazing dinners for two at new york's renowned restaurants craft and collicio founded by chef tom coliccio. to compliment your fine dining experience, we'll throw in a bottle of wine. back to you, steve. >> thank you, bill wolf. quite an impressive prize package. you'll be playing on the 5th of april. you'll be playing with kate osara. there is one other spot left 2349 championship game. it will be decided two weeks from today. we'll take a break but two weeks from today we'll decide the spot. the three players will be brian boyler, and krystal ball who if you watched our selection show a few weeks wag the ninth and final selection by the selection
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committee. the last one in the tournament. they will compete for the final spot. alex, you're in. championship game, april 5th. what do we know now that we didn't know last week. our answers after this. [ female announcer ] what's a powerful way to cut through everyday greasy messes? [ male announcer ] sponges take your mark. ♪ [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... ♪ [ crowd cheering ] ...to clean 2x more greasy dishes. dawn does more. so it's not a chore. dawn does more. ♪ ♪
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all right. it's time to find out what our guests know now that they didn't know what the week began. isaac, we'll start with you. >> well, we're used to a gender gap in political polling. there was a poll by harris that said that 77% of women worry about money more than sex but only 46% of men worry about money more than sex. the thing that the two genders have in common was that both, one out of four people say in this bad economy that money worries are preventing them from thinking about sex. >> that is very interesting information. anthony. >> what i know now is this week is the end of the georgia legislation this week in georgia. guns -- felons can have guns
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under legislation because of a strike through in legislation. they meet tuesday and thursday, the georgia senate where felons who are not supposed to have guns, strike through through or three means felons can use stand your ground in georgia as protection. we're not supposed to carry illegal guns. i spoke to someone at mayors against illegal guns and they highlighted this. it's hidden on page 2 of a long 26 page bill. keep your eye on georgia. jordan davis's mom spoke out against this last week as did martin luther king jr.'s sister whose mom was shot and killed at church. this bill would allow you to bring guns to church. >> keep an eye on it. >> this week we learned scott brown is running for senate in massachusetts. we know the first was? >> daniel webster. >> yes. >> okay. that's -- >> you weren't supposed to know that. >> yeah, no. it was one of the questions actually rejected. alex sense wald, the winner, you'll go onto the championship.
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what do you know now that you didn't know last week. >> i know there are 5% of americans who think vladimir putin is doing a pretty good job as president of russia. i'm very curious who these 5% of americans are. >> 5% approval for putin and 9% for congress. i want to thank isaac shot ner with the new republic, anthony terrell, alex page and alex wald and thank you for joining us today. for "up" join us sunday morning at eight. why everybody loves to root for the underdog, in politics, sports and life. we'll be joined by an original member of the original jamaican bobsled team. the world is watching as the ukraine remains a country in crisis. they're staged across the border in crimea as crimea prepares for a referendum vote. coming up next. we'll see you tomorrow here at 8:00. thanks for getting "up."
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this morning, my question, what do we mean when we say inner city men. plus, pope francis celebrates a year with many challenges still ahead. and the new efforts to suppress the vote that aren't even city subtle. first, russian troops positioned on the border of ukraine as crimea's referendum vote approaches and the world is watching for what comes next. good morning. i'm jonathan capehart in for melissa harris-perry. 16 hours. that's the amount of time the world will have to wait in the geopolitical chess match between russia and ukraine. crimea is caught in the middle. escalation of events

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