loved ones of the passengers, including the girlfriend of american phillip woods, that they are keeping hope alive that their family members are somewhere, somehow safe. actually, she spoke to my colleague, raechel maddow last night, and says she believes he's still alive. >> as early as sunday, the day after the flight disappeared, already, amongst my group of friends, we were already talking about the fact that a crash didn't make any sense. that this clearly looked like an abduction. and, you know, without evidence of them doing something immediate and visible with that very powerful tool of a big plane filled with people, that they have to have a future purpose for it. >> meanwhile, millions of people are actually going online to help in the search, using a website called tom nod. people are actually highlighting areas where they think that they've spotted wreckage, or even an oil slick.

but, of course, none of this has been confirmed. nbc's tom costello has been covering every angle of this story, joins us now. okay, tom, let's talk about the manual controls, that the flight path was made using that. how does that work? take us inside something like that. >> all right, sources are confirming to us, to nbc news, that whoever was flying the plane used the onboard computer systems to help make the turn, the u-turn back, and to bank right up the straight of mallika. that made it a very smooth turn. and that's what you would expect from a professional pilot, who has intimate knowledge of how the some works. if somebody had, in fact, been manually turning this plane, it would have been very difficult to maintain a steady altitude, and we're told this plane was very much on a steady altitude. so, we still cannot necessarily say that this was done for any, you know, nefarious reason. there could be legitimate reasons that this plane turned around. that the cockpit crew decided to turn around, but we don't know

what they were. and as you know, everybody's looking at the pilots right now. we've talked about the two search corridors, malaysia airlines is, by the way, telling us that these two search zones, these arcs, that they last had a ping somewhere on these arcs for the plane. malaysia airlines says the flight crew never flew a flight zone or flight path along these arcs, by the way. now, they have broken down these arcs into seven different zones. why are they doing that? because the total square mileage here is about 2.2 million square nautical miles, is what all of this encompasses. and by the way, about 1500 miles down southwest of perth, australia, this zone alone is about the size of maine, we're told. maybe even bigger than that. it's a massive search zone. imagine, if you had to search something the size of maine, just down here, for an aircraft. and all of this is water, by the way.

a huge challenge. they have now, for the most part, blown off or decided that they're no longer going to continue look in the bay of bengal up here off the coast of india and thailand and malaysia. and also, of course, we know, the south china sea is no longer a focus. so this is now, very much the dominant search zone, down in the indian ocean, because most of the countries back up here in the north have said, they've not seen anything on their radars to suggest that maybe this flight overflew their territory. can i just make one last point on the telestrator. we have thailand right there, and thailand has just now today reported to the associated press that they may have picked up the flight on their radar. that would make sense, because malaysia borders thailand, but thailand is not saying why they didn't come forward with this information until just now. >> and tom, just quickly, i'm not sure if you know the specific answer to this, but regarding this planned flight path that was manually set, is

that something that would happen before the plane took off or while it was in the air? >> no, you could do it while you were in the air. you simply would put in a new coordinate and you would dial it in and hit engage, and the plane -- the reason why they think the plane was done by the computer was because the turn was a very steady 20-degree radius turn. that's a typical turn for a professional pilot in a big, commercial airliner. and you cannot make that steady of a turn at 30,000 feet at a high speed by yourself manually, without being really herky jerky and gaining and dropping altitude dramatically. because all of our reporting suggests that this plane flew pretty steady at 29,000 feet, 29,500, to be precise. there's some reporting out there that it was erratic, that they had dramatic swings in altitude. our reporting suggests that there may not be accurate. >> okay, tom, thank you. i've got to bring our audience some breaking news that we've just received regarding a news helicopter crash in seattle.

this is just a bit of the information that we've received in, that komo, king 5 in the seattle area, this is some of the video. my goodness, just coming into us here. you see some vehicles as well, just completely burned as a result of this. again, this is video that we're just getting in to us here. a news helicopter crash in seattle. we're getting more details on where this happened. but you see, i'm not exactly sure if this is a residential area, so i don't want to speculate to that point, but we certainly see a couple of vehicles on the side here and looks like some type of sculpture as swell. but, again, this is in seattle, washington, where a news helicopter. let's go back to that video, please, of a news helicopter, where you see the vehicles, at least two charred there. it looks like a pickup and a -- it is near the space needle, i'm told. but, yeah, you see two vehicles

there. and we'll get more details on this, but a news helicopter crash in seattle, near the space needle. you see some folks there. this is the television station just here at komo 4 news. and you can see people there on the balcony or at least some outdoor space, that they have. so this crash happening just across the street from what i believe is this news station's headquarters here. so we'll get someone on the line here and get more details. but you see two vehicles charred there on the side and a number of emergency personnel, firefighters responding to that. and now to the crisis in ukraine. we're just learning president obama has invited leaders of the g-7 and the european union to meet next week about the still-unfolding crisis. the plan is to meet on the sidelines of a g-7 nuclear summit in the netherlands. in the meantime, right now, vice president joe biden is in poland's capital. his first stop on a trip to reassure america's nato allies,

bordering russia, that the u.s. has their back. now, after meeting with poland's prime minister today, the vice president took aim at russia's move to incorporate ukraine's crimea region, calling it a land grab. >> russia's leaders have responded with a brazen, brazen military incursion, with a purposeful ratcheting up of ethnic tensions inside ukraine, with a rushed and illegal referendum in crimea, that was not surprisingly rejected by virtually the entire world. and now, today, with steps to annex crimea. >> well, today a defiant president vladimir putin and two crimean leaders signed a treaty to make crimea part of russia. in a televised address to the nation, putin insisted his nation does not want other parts of ukraine. he also warned that western attempts to frighten russia with sanctions over its takeover of

crimea would be viewed as an act of aggression and that moscow would retaliate. joining me now live, democratic congressman, adam schiff, member of the house intelligence committee. sir, thank you for your time today. >> you bet. >> let's talk about vladimir putin today and the remarks he made about an act of aggression. >> well, i think putin having put these forces in motion now probably feels compelled to fall through and formally annex crimea. they're, you know, talking tough in terms of the sanctions, but if we stay our ground and we ratchet up the sanctions, as indeed i think we really have to, we can make russia pay an enormous cost for that. right now, the russian markets have reacted favorably to the first round of sanctions, meaning that they were less than what russia anticipated. we want really exactly the opposite reaction. we want the russians to be saying to themselves, we never thought it would be this costly for us the to absorb one of our neighbors or a piece of one of our neighbors. we're going to have to expand those sanctions to go after the

heads of their energy industries, to go after their oligarchs and make sure the pain is really felt. >> with that said, why not come out with stronger sanctions, that then were announced just yesterday? >> well, i think the hope was by starting out with a first round of sanctions and giving yourself room to escalate, if necessary, we could still leave the door open for putin to decide not to annex crimea, notwithstanding the vote, but it's pretty plane, that's exactly that's what he's going to do. and i think the risk at this point is not that we will provoke putin into doing something reckless, but rather, if we don't escalate the sanctions and show we're really serious about this, the weakness of those sanctions will only encourage further territorial ambitions on putin's part. >> let me share what senator john mccain, who just got back from a visit to the ukraine, what his criticism has been, since his return. let's play that and i want your response to it. >> i think vladimir putin must be encouraged by the absolute

timidity. the president said we will, quote, consider other options. the president should have said, we're going to provide military assistance to ukraine and that will be in defensive weaponry. >> obviously, already, some of your democratic colleagues have criticized senator mccain, saying, if it were up to him, wooeld have forces in syria and in perhaps a number of other places in the world. but what is your reaction to that? >> my reaction is that on the military front, russia really holds all the advantages. we're not going to go to war with russia over crimea, given their military power and their proximity to the region. they would have all the advantages. instead, where do we have the advantages? we have the advantages economically. we can make russia pay an enormous price. the russian economy was already very fragile, and essentially, the world working together can put russia into a painful recession. it will incur some costs on our part as well, and that of our european allayies.

but if we're serious about this, we can make russia and the russian people pay a price for their aggression. that is a far more effective and less dangerous response than escalating militarily where the russians have the advantage. >> congressman, thank you so much for your time. i really appreciate it and we hope to speak with you soon. i've got to take our audience to some breaking news that's happened in seattle, where there's been a news helicopter crash. right now, the seattle fire department says a male -- let's show the images, please. a male is the in critical condition. this is komo news 4 in seattle. you see a car fully engulfed in flames. another vehicle behind it. nbc's peter alexander worked in the area. he's familiar with it, where this chopper went down. peter, you're on the phone there. i know we have some video of the some of the aftermath, at least, we had some live pictures. but this appeared to happen just across the street from this news station. zw >> reporter: yeah, tamron, for people who are familiar with seattle, it's at the bottom of

the queen ann hill, where the space needle is. fisher plaza, where komo tv is based. that's the studio you showed us a short time, which is a short distance, a block away. it stares right out at the space needle. it is part of a shared partnership between komo 4, the local abc affiliate, and king 5 tv, the nbc affiliate in that area. this is a very popular area in the middle of the sort of downtown area, near the seattle center. it's near the science center, it's near the emp museum that exists there. we've been looking at the seattle fire department's twitter feed, trying to get the late test information. they are now reporting right now two doas at the helicopter crash scene near space needle. we haven't confirmed it independently, but they are tweeting two dead on arrival at the helicopter crash scene near the space needle. that information just coming in. they also tweet, the helicopter crash and three cars on fire near the space needle.

as you reported just moments ago, they transported an approximately 37-year-old male to hmc, which is what's known as harbor view medical center in critical condition from one of the vehicles on the ground. harbor view medical center is one of the best medical facilities in that region. there are individuals transported from all across the inland northwest, as far away as idaho and montana, for serious life threatening injuries. that is the best opportunity for this person, if they are to survive this accident. >> all right, peter. thank you very much. we'll continue to update our audience. but you see now the fires, the fire is out of two of those vehicles. at one point, the news station showing on its front page, online, the cars fully engulfed in flames. as peter is reporting and we're working to confirm, there may be fatalities here, at least two of them reported. but we're working on the confirmation. frightening scene there in downtown seattle. we'll be right back with more news. action

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well, welcome back. after yet toanother round of recalls, general motors has just announced that it is creating a new position within the company to deal with vehicle safety. gm ceo mary barra who has been on the job just two months appointed jeff boyer, a 40-year-old veteran in the company to the new role. now, the latest recalls involve more than 1.5 million suvs, vans, and cadillacs. a majority of the recalls are related to defective side airbags. gm says it knows of no accidents related to the recalls. of course, this is as the company is dealing with a second wide-ranging recall this year. last month, the carmaker recalled 1.6 million cars for an ignition problem linked now to at least 12 deaths.

the department of justice is investigating the timing of that recall, and congressional hearings are also in the works. joini ining me now, greg gardne from the detro"detroit free pr." thank you for your time. >> good morning. >> first of all, this is a new position that never existed prior to now, vehicle safety person. >> that's a good point, there are -- it's not as if they don't have engineers who know a lot about safety, but to put a person in charge who's going to have wide-ranging authority to hopefully expedite the internal investigation and make decisions more quickly. which they need to do right now. >> absolutely. before we get to these hearings that are coming regarding the are recall that's gotten the most attention, as a result of those possible 12 fatalities linked to them, let's talk about the latest recalls. as i mentioned, more than $1.5 million. are there questions related to how long gm held on to the information, or is this something that was given to the

public as soon as the company realized it was a problem? >> well, again, i want to focus on the recall of the ignition switches, because that's where the timeliness of the reporting is definitely in question. they filed documents last week that showed that as early as 2001, they noticed cases in at least pre-production cars and then, in 2007, federal safety regulators brought the problem to the company's attention. >> right, absolutely. and our game gutierrez was actually there on the scene and even attempted to speak with one of the engineers involved in investigating this, who at the time did not feel that this particular flaw, and for an audience who's not up to speed on this, this ignition, the key, the design of it, according to documents in this investigation, if the key chain, for example, was too heavy, it would dislodge from the ignition itself. one family says their daughter's evacuate spun out of control, went airborne, and as a result,

she was killed in a horrific accident. >> yeah, as we've reported, there have been 12 reported deaths and 31 crashes, but if you look at the nhtsa complaint file, there are a lot of cases where people were, frankly, scared, but nothing terrible happened. so, i mean, it's something that you obviously, you know, notice when it goes wrong. >> and just, again, quickly, back to, as i mentioned, this latest recall. because if you own one of these vehicles, yes, it is different from what we're focused on for the congressional hearings. nevertheless, after this latest recall, you have this new ceo of gm, announcing this new position. so it is relevant for those, especially if you own one of these vehicles, what they're saying you should do. >> this latest round of recalls reflects their entire to get out in front of problems, before nhtsa and the safety regulators force them to. so, none of them were life threatening, but they were

still, you know, problems that needed to be taken care of. >> well, greg, thank you so much. i'm sure we'll be speaking with you more. as i noted, the congressional hearings are in the works and we may learn more details on what was happening and the delay in information being relayed the to consumers as it is alleged. thank you so much, greg, for your time. >> thank you. we're following that breaking news. let's go back to this news helicopter crash in seattle. the fire department reporting two people were killed in this crash. our peter alexander, my colleague at nbc, very familiar with this area. it's near the space needle, as well as the downtown area. you see the vehicles there, two vehicles charred as a result of this accident. the helicopter is a news helicopter and it's shared by komo, as it is known in the area, and king 5. so two news stations share this helicopter that crashed. some of the video, if you look here, eventually, you'll see the

news station, komo, is exactly right there, the building with the glass near the overpass. that's the news headquarters there. but right now, we've gotten the confirmation, sadly, two fatalities as a result of this horrific crash. one person, approximately 37 years old, in critical condition, was extracted from the car. this, again, according to the seattle fire department, releasing some details on the twitter feed. so we'll continue to follow this breaking news, but a very sad situation there. coming up, a new bill moving through the colorado statehouse would make it harder for parents to send their kids to school who opt out of vaccines. what parents would be required to do and why, of course, this has set off a big debate, beyond colorado. plus, two dozen american war heroes who fought overseas but faced discrimination at home because of their race or

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welcome back. this week, colorado lawmakers are debating a highly controversial bill that would make it difficult for parents to send their kids to school if they have not been vaccinated. the measure passed a house committee last week with bipartisan support, after hours of testimony from parents and doctors. now, under current law, parents can opt out of vaccinating their child by signing a statement of exemption for religious, personal, or even philosophical objections. now, if the bill passes, parents who want to opt out of vaccinations will have to complete an online education course on the benefits and

risks. now, they would also have to get a signature from a health care professional, confirming the disclosure of possible health risks to the student and community. and schools and day care centers would have to disclose how many kids are not immuneized. the measure comes amid an outbreak of whooping cough across the state, which also has the sixth highest rate of non-vnonh non-vaccinated public school kindergartens. and it's not just sparking a controversy in colorado, it's an issue that has become one of the hottest debates among parent across the country. joining me now, art with department of population health. a pleasure to see you. >> great to see you too. >> let me first tell you what some of the parents who said are opposed to this. a parent only known as helen says, i do not want to be forced to do something to my child that i believe will harm him. my primary is the best diet that i can provide, like what food

whenever possible. we have a chiropractor who works very interestingly and very effective techniques. another parent, susan lawson who says, parents have a constitutional right to parent their child and not an uneducated woman. your reaction to that. >> first of all, i think parents do look after their kids, but you don't stop the measles with a diet and you don't stop the flu or the whooping cough by a chiropractor. i think we've had a lot of bad news around about vaccines, a lot of celebrities coming on and saying, you know, they cause this, they cause that. those connections aren't proven. optimism is the most common one. it's been debunked again and again. but the main reason those kind of comments make me concerned is, you send your kid to day care unvaccinated, you're going to infect other kids. let's say a mom is there pregnant, she can't vaccinate that fetus there, she can't be infacted or there could be a miscarriage, and we see that a lot. so you want to protect other

people. you've got to remember that. >> this parent says her daughter developed encephalitis after a routine vaccine. she's not a celebrity, she's a mom who says, my kid got sick after this. how often or how common is that? >> well, think about this. if you vaccinate 2 million children in a year, some of them are going to get sick from something right after the vaccine. and people make that association all the time. i'm not going to say vaccines are risk-free, but they are just about as safe as anything you can get. you probably face some risk just driving around in your car, and that doesn't stop people from doing it. so you've got to take into account, hung risks of death from these diseases, huge risk to people who can't get vaccinated, a kid with an immune disease or with a cancer treatment. the risk benefit doesn't come out against vaccinating your kid. >> do you believe states outside of colorado and since we're focused on colorado, as well as, have made it too easy for parents to opt out, because, obviously, this state law, they're looking at, is to put

parents through some hoops if this is your choice. you can't just say, philosophically, i disagree with this. you can still opt out due to religion, religious beliefs, but you can't just simply come in and say, i don't think it's the right thing. >> great question, tamron, and i'll answer it. i think we should make it hard, not easy to opt out. if you just have to raise your hand and say, not me, that's too easy. you ought to understand the information, colorado is saying you've got to go through this little mini course, the doctor's got to try to inform it to you. that's an informed decision not to do it, not just some fear or a mood you're in that day. >> speaking of fear, do you think doctors overall should do a better job in easing partner's fears? to your point, it pops up in a celebrity conversation, people go mildly wild, and education is key? >> i do. and one of the things i would say to the doctor or the pediatrician, even when that parent says, i don't want to vaccinate my kid, don't fire

them, work with them. sometimes they start to say, you know what -- >> they shut down. >> you've got to stick with it. there are a lot of people who are pains the in the neck that you have to see in medicine. the trick is to convince the parent, don't punish the kid. >> dr. kaplan, thank you very much. we want to follow this story as it moves to the full house in colorado. i want to go back to this breaking story. a news chopper crash in seattle. the helicopter was apparently taking off from a downtown helipad when it crashed and burned. two people were killed in the crash near the space needle. local authorities say there were people on board that helicopter. you see that dark plume, huge plume of smoke there, capturing the aftermath of that crash, but, pretty terrifying sight to see. and now we know, a confirmed fatalities as a result of this accident. we'll have much more on this breaking news. we'll be right back. [announcer] who could resist the call...

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well, in just a few hours, at 3:40 p.m. eastern time, president obama will award the medal of honor to a group of primarily hispanic, jewish, and african-american veterans who were denied the honor in the past, because of their race or ethnicity. the presentation of the medal, the nation's highest commendation of valor in combat, is the result of an exhaustive 12-year pentagon review into discrimination in the military. now, the investigation was ordered by congress in 2002 and turned out to be a massive undertaken that sent military personnel digging for lost wreckage, trying to piece together battles that happened decades ago. well, today's 24 recipients served in vietnam, korea, and world war ii. all but five are hispanic, jewish, or african-american. just three of the recipients are still alive today. joining me now, david wood,

senior military correspondent for the "huffington post," and colonel jack jacobs. he's a medal of honor recipient and an msnbc military analyst, and the author of "basic surviving boot camp." thank you so much for joining us. colonel jack, let's start here. i've read a number of articles on this and the process and getting to this point, i said to myself, this reads like a movie. you talk about american hero channel, military channel, these stories all need to be told. it's amazing. >> they do. you know, we've had a lot of men and women serve in combat, and relatively few get recognized for any award for valor. and we have to recognize that because of all the valor and how difficult it is to report on it, everybody who's ever been decorated will tell you the same thing, he wears the award not for himself, but for all of those who are not here to wear it. >> but i think what makes this even more heartbreaking, colonel, as you know, these men put their country first, and in some cases, they even had to hide their ethnicity, because

they knew that there might be discrimination. so in a sense, they were hiding who they were, while fighting for this country outfront. >> it was very difficult back then. the farther you go back, the more difficult it is. as we talked just during the break, we think we've grown up since them and we're much better for having recognized people who did what they could do for everybody. >> david, let me bring you in, in this. one of the stories, for example, specialist santiago erevia. pfc john mcfarland wrote his medal of honor recommendation in 1969. he said for years, he wondered what had happened and he suffered guilt, because he worried that he didn't do a good enough job in describing erevia's heroism. that's just one example. >> well, i'm really proud that we're finally coming around to recognizing the combat valor of

these men, even though it took such a long time. but i think we also have to recognize that there are bad things that happen in combat to people that quakt their own sense of right and wrong, and often, as you say, result in a sense of guilt. this is increasingly being recognized as moral injury, and i think, it's the major sort of like the key thing that happens to people in combat. >> yeah, and you've written extensively about that moral injury. up with of the other men honored, staff sergeant melvin morris, 72 years old. he says there is no way, really, to prepare them for the emotional extremes of war, trauma for some, and moral injury. it's a violation of the senses here. and now we have these men, and i should read the third person here, sergeant first class jose rodela. the third living vet. he received the medal for bravery during fighting in

vietnam in early september, 1969. to note that some of these are vietnam vets. my dad, a vietnam vet. colonel, and we know the sensitivities that -- and rightfully so -- that many vietnam vets have in the way they feel they've been treated. >> very unpopular war. we had a draft, so it was not universal service. if you could not escape, you wound up in the service. and it's interesting that all those people, a large majority of people who wound up in the service, many against their will, performed bravely and valiantly, when we're all in it together, we all fight for each other. one last thing, we go through reviews all the time, recently, of some years ago, there was another review of medal of honor recommendations and a number of awards were made to japanese american troops, who were sent to concentration camps at the beginning of the war, and were members of the foreign 42nd regimental combat team, the most highly decorated unit in the united states army, the second world war. we do our nation proud by going

back and to take a look again at what people did for this country. >> and i should read a bit more about staff sergeant melvin morris, 72 years old. he was the only african-american that identified as part of the review. he's a former green beret. he was wounded three times in september of '69, recovering the body of his fatally wounded master sergeant from the jungle ambush in south vietnam. so incredible men. david, your reporting on some of the lingering effects, including moral injury, i think, something that people should recognize. you think, what are we seeing as far as our government to do more as it relates to moral injury? >> just beginning, tamron, to recognize that there are -- that people come home from war, not necessarily with ptsd, but not okay. people struggle with the bad things that happen to war. people, for example, i've written about many army medics who couldn't save mortally wounded troops and feel not just

grief and sorrow that they lost a comrade, but guilt that they couldn't do more, that there was something they left undone. and they carried that. and we're just beginning to learn to recognize this as a moral injury and to find new ways to treat it, which i think there's some interesting work being done that i've written about quite extensively. >> yes, you have. and david, thank you for the writing, of course. colonel jack, thank you for your service. and it's an honor, always, to sit beside you for these minutes. thank you, sir. well, you can certainly watch, and should, watch the medal of honor ceremony live right here on msnbc, 3:40 p.m. eastern time. up next,ly talk with a ballywood star who, well, she went viral, you might say, after her con trfrontation with a reporter over the way women are treated in india. >> i think you need to do your homework. excuse me, you should -- this is my point of view. i think it's a very, very regressive state for women. >> we are tackling this one, live, coming up. (meow mix jingle)

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turning now to a ballywood star who's gone viral in her fight for women's rights. malika says she gained new perspective on gender inequality in india after spending time in the u.s. here, she's in an interview with "variety" magazine. >> when i experienced that social freedom in america and i go back to india, which is so regressive for women, it's depressing. as a woman, as an independent woman, it's really depressing. >> well, a few amongst later, sherawat was promoting "bachelor india," when a female journalist confronts her asking why she would want to find true love in a place that she finds depressing. >> with female infanticide happening on almost a daily basis, with gang rapes making

the headlines of almost every newspaper, i think it's a very, very regressive state for women. and i stand by it. >> an international platform, and you go out there, for them, the only word that comes to mind is not woman, it's india. >> i'm not going to lie! i am never going to lie. >> well, it goes on and mallika sherawat is with me now. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me, tamron. first, the fact that it was a female reporter involved in this exchange, how did that make you feel? >> you know, let me tell you something, tamron. i mean, growing up in india as a girl in a small town, in a rural part, there were so many things that were just denied to me, just because i was a woman. you know? so my gender was kind of used to oppress me. and then i've grown up facing that kind of oppression. and not only me. a lot of women like me go through what i've gone through.

and that's why i -- and these battles that i have with the media, sometimes it's so frustrating, because they criticize me for speaking the truth. >> and that's what i -- i don't assume that all men are insensitive and i don't want to say that, but i do think to your point, what you have experienced and what other women have experienced, and quite honestly, what women here in the united states experience in our struggle, one would think that there would be a moment of bonding or understanding, and here it seemed this reporter, who was female, was attacking you. >> i mean, it's really unfortunate, you know, when your own sisters kind of attack you. and tamron, this shows the kind of brainwashing that has happened in india, where the state of women is concerned. >> well, you know, according to a 2002 report from unicef, 57% of indian boys and 53% of girls between the ages of 15 and 19 think wifebeating, for example, is justified. in addition to that, we know,

though, mallika, december 12th, this gang rape resulted in riots throughout india. and as a result, a new and a renewed focus on the attacks and continued attacks of young girls, and in some cases, even boys. >> i mean, you're absolutely right, with these kind of statistics. i can throw even more statistics, tamron, like, for example, the national crime record bureau states that in 2012, there were around approximately 25,000 rapes reported in india. which means the, every -- there's one rape every 28 minutes. and the irony is that the conviction rate for rape has fallen in the last 12 years from 42% to some 24%. so we need to have some really deep-rooted social changes. i think they're really required to kind of change the mind-set of the nation, that women are not a liability, girls are not a liability. they are an asset. we don't need to kill them in

the womb. we need to provide them with equal opportunities as boys. you cannot progress as a nation if there are no equal opportunities for women. >> absolutely. and, you know, it's so interesting, you were voted most beautiful woman in the world two years in a row. you have a wonderful acting career, but here you are, taking this social stand, where people are not looking at your physical form, but looking at your heart and your mind, which is ultimately the most important thing, male or female, for all of us. but what has this done for your life at this point, and what you believe is your purpose? >> you know, tamron, it's very easy to sit in an ivory tower, lead a very luxurious life, and not face any prejudices personally, and say, okay, i want to fix this. the point i'm trying to make is, i have lived those prejudices, i have lived those hardships. i have grown up in a very, very regressive environment in my own hometown, where my own father,

when i told him i want to be an actress, he absolutely disowned me and hasn't talked to me since. so that's why i'm so, so passionate about bringing awareness to this cause for the sisters who do not have a voice. i didn't have a voice until i got this platform. and now that i have this platform, i'm going to use it to bring awareness to this cause that i'm so passionate about. i love my country and i want my country to do well and india is on the brink of rise but it cannot rise until the women rise along with the men. >> it's an honor to share this space with you, even through television, it's fantastic and we applaud you and people should go on and see that video, it is quite the sight. thank you and i hope to speak to you soon about your continued work. >> thank you, tamron. >> students in south carolina could soon be required by law to learn cursive writing and memorize multiapplication, quick, two times two.

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back to breaking news with the deadly news helicopter crash in seattle. two people were killed in the crash. there were three people on board the chopper. we're waiting anews conference and will bring you any news updates, frightening scene this morning there. let's get in our "news nation" gut check before we end the hour today. so today lawmakers in south carolina are set to vote on a bill that would require students to learn how to read and write cursive and memorize multiplication tables. it seems like something should be mandated but they no longer require schools to teach cursive, because much of our communication is done on keyboards but cursive is shown to improve hand/eye coordination

and as for the requirement for multiplication tables, opponents argue that kids are being forced to memorize facts rather than understand the concept of math. good thing they didn't go to catholic school and mrs. martin martinez. opponents also point out the cost because you have to have tests and that cost money to see if kids know how to do this. go to newsnation.msnbc.com. yesterday we told you about a driver rushing to an emergency room in florida when the license plate was snapped by one of the cameras and posted near the entrance of the hospital. ended up with $158 ticket. do you agree with the decision to place those red light cameras at the entrance to a hospital? 78% of you law breakers said no. 22% said yes. and in all seriousness the mayor is looking at this and they are

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diverted once again, the focus of the vehicle turns to the cockpit and who is at the controls as new evidence shows that first u-turn away from the flight's original destination was made using the jet's computer system. it's a series of key strokes only someone with expertise could do. but friends of the pilot do not believe he would hijack his own plane. >> i will not believe anything until the evidence to prove.

>> with his character and what we knew of him, it just wouldn't make any sense. >> victory lap, after the first round of sanctions by the u.s. and european union, russia's president putin stands defiant today. joe biden arrived in poland telling the newest nato members, we've got your back. >> we joined poland in international community in condemning the continuing assault on ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and the blatant, blatant violation of international law by mr. putin in russia. honors delayed, two dozen battlefield heroes will receive the medal of honor today. a past due recognition decades late. >> to be honored in such a fashion, i just still can't comprehend it. i can't. not yet,