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billion settlement with toyota. now the attorney general says the company intentionally concealed information and misled the public. we'll have the very latest on that. good morning, i'm chris chancing. we begin with the new and intriguing developments and malaysia airlines flight 370 investigators focus on what happened in the cockpit. this morning, malaysian authorities say files were recently deleted from the home flight simulator of pilot zaharie shah. >> local and international expertise have been recorded to examine the flight simulator. some data had been deleted from the simulator and forensic work to retrieve this data is ongoing. >> this raises all kinds of red flags because flight 370's u-turn was manually programmed into the plane's computer from the cockpit and it was done 12 minutes before the co-pilot said good night to malaysian air traffic controllers. bottom line -- that means the

turn was premeditated. and as investigators try to recover the missing flight simulator data, the search area for the missing 777 has expanded to nearly -- get this -- three million square miles. chinese vessels in the gulf of thailand got new orders to scour the waters southeast of the bay of bengal. and this is just heartbreaking. no clear answers 12 days after the plane's disappearance. you can see how families' frustration has grown to desperation. a grief stricken woman from china had to be led out of a missilen news conference this morning. we have a panel of experts to discuss what happened. we're joined by nbc news even kolemann, don borrelli in charge of the fbi/nypd joint task

force, and jay rollins. good to see all of you. good morning. let's start with this new headline that morning "malaysian defense minister says files were deleted from the home flight simulator on february 3." how significant could this be do you think, evan? >> it's more compelling than an organized terrorist group doing this or dr. evil outfitting this plane with his donald trump livery. there's been a lot of crazy theories out there but certainly one of the more compelling theories here is that this had something to do with the pilot. it was an individual decision by the pilot or co-pilot and, again, there's really no evidence of an organized terrorist plot here, no terrorist group has claimed credit, there's no chatter going on on terrorist web forums. >> you've soon nothing. >> i've said this before. there's more terrorist chatter out there about the harlem gas line explosion than this malaysian airliner. so if al qaeda or other

terrorists were involved in this it's one of the oddest things i've ever seen and there's no evidence so at this point we're speculating about -- there's no evidence. >> so you have no evidence, don, in terms obviously of anything about the plane. we don't know where it is, we haven't seen a piece of it anywhere. so that makes it all the more intriguing this -- these deleted files from the home simulator. first of all, how difficult would bit to recover something like that and what are they looking? >> it depend. there's a lot of sophisticated technology available, specifically that's in the hands of various government agencies like the fbi and nsa, so if they've been brought in to help the malaysians, there's a very good chance they'll be able to recover whatever files were deleted. when i talked to my colleagues that work in those areas, they'll say there's no such thing as a deleted file. there's a good chance they'll be able to recover it. the next thing is what is it? if it shows a flight plan similar to what we have been watching with the various

animations that tie into the satellites and so forth, the left turn, than that could be a game changer but it really depends on what it is. too early to tell until we figure out what those files say. >> jay, i'm wondering when you look at the captain himself, he's got 18,000 hours of flight experience, i've been talking to pilots about the flight simulator since they first talked about its existence. here's what they've told me. when they were active pilots they food interest in going home and flying more. they never got flight simulators until after the fact. but in your experience, how unusual would bit for an act i pilot, somebody who flies as much as this pilot did, to have a home flight simulator and an elaborate one at home? >> i would count myself in the crowd who was not interested in a flight simulator when i was home. i enjoyed flying the real thing but there was no need to go home and do more of it.

however there are pilots that enjoy it enough and they like to practice their work at home so that alone isn't enough to disturb me. i think even the accusation that he had certain airports is only valid if they go forward and say that he actually practiced approaches to some of these odd airports. just to have them in the database if they came along with a commercial program would not disturb me the least. he maybe never even looked at that. but i'm quite sure they will go back into that computer and determine whether he did or not. >> jay, let's talk about the timeline because without any real evidence, physical evidence, you do look at the fact that you have somebody -- the co-pilot now here who says good night, he's supposed to be, then, handed off to the air traffic control in vietnam which never happens and then after the fact with having no indication there was anything wrong makes the turn that was

pre-programmed, programmed before they said good night. that doesn't make sense unless it was deliberate, right? >> well, i do believe that something nefarious is going on, but we have to be very careful who is telling us this information. like, for instance, the turn and that it was pre-programmed. now, if f the manufacturer of the acars system is saying that information is forwarded the moment that the pilot enters that information into the computer, that it is forwarded down into ground based computers then that would be very strong evidence. but on the other hand, if they are assuming that, who is actually saying this? the sources sometimes are newspapers like the "new york times" that are not telling us the source. unless i get this from a u.s. source or from a reliable aviation source like aviation

week or anything that would give me confidence from the manufacturer that that is how the system works, having said that, yes, i think something is up. >> well, let's talk about the various theories and as evan pointed to, there's no shortage of them and some of them are pretty far out there and some of the web sites that now have picked up on this have a lot of informed speculation but it is still that, speculation. so, look, you know what it is to go through an investigation, don. what do you do? do you start with a list of 100 and then start checking them off and prioritize them and say one, two, three, four? and if that's how you do it, what do you think are the top theories right now? >> you have to start with what's the most logical and you start there and then expand that ring. you're constantly ruling things in and out. right now the focus of the investigation is the pilots. so you really need to drill down into the background of these pilots which is not only the flight simulator and trying to

recover those deleted files but e-mails and phone records, financial records. >> shouldn't we have that information by now? >> we should maybe and maybe not. even in the u.s. sometimes you start off with an abundance of information quickly but then it will take you to the next level. so, for example, if you find an intriguing telephone record but then you want to chain it out and find out who that number was calling then you have to request those records from a company. so sometimes these investigations will come in waves. you'll get a lot of information, you'll wait for the next batch of information to come in and then you'll have a whole new set of leads. it doesn't always happen right away. sometimes it can take weeks or months to get that good nugget of information you need to crack a case. >> and to that point, are there things that you're seeing online, evan? i know you're looking all the time. things that make more sense than others? >> a lot of theories online are ridiculous. they involve suspending the laws of physics, hiding a 777 in the

middle of a crowded area, flying over international borders like the chinese or india or pakistani border. that's not where we'll get answers. crazy crackpot theories isn't where we get answers. it's when fbi investigators look at the air simulators at his house. it's when fbi agents get access to the material from his computer. let's not forget, the malaysian investigators have been reluctant to work with the fbi. they have not been forthcoming, that's been choinging recently. i hate to say this, i don't have kfz in malaysian investigators. i'd be much more confident seeing what an fbi computer analysis team or fbi agents are able to pull up on their own looking at this evidence objectively. >> and jay, to don's point where you rule things in and out, one of the things that seems lodge squall that this plane, wherever it is, probably didn't go forth because we know many of those countries like pakistan have pretty sophisticated radar. they would have picked up this

plane. so it probably went south. you flew in this part of the world as a young navy pilot. what are the challenges here, especially when we're talking about potentially something deep in the sea, something this large? what can you tell us about having been above that area? >> well, first i would not throw out the possibility that this aircraft was able to slip past radar in some of these -- for lack of a better term -- third world countries. >> really? >> one possible way that that could happen would be if the aircraft shadowed another aircraft. in other words, a loose formation. if he flew that much in that area, he would know schedules, he would recognize certain flights -- >> explain what that means for people who aren't aviation experts because this is another near they's out there and that's been talked about a lot. i've got to tell you, it just -- man, that's a level of luck and

sophistication that is almost hard to believe. >> well, this captain had been flying for 18 years. he knew that area, he knew the schedule. it is conceivable -- and until it's proven otherwise we have k not throw out these possibilities. and what i mean by "shadowing," if you were to join up and fly in formation with another aircraft your radar return tends to merge and so if you were able -- if you knew that a certain airliner was traveling to the northwest at a certain time going roughly to your destination, all you would have to do is listen to where he is at that moment. heck, he may have taken off about the same time going rendezvous, get close you have no that aircraft before he enters another country's airspace and -- >> could you that, though, in such a way that the other pilot

would not raid glow and say "hey, this guy is on my tail"? that sounds like a near-miss to me. >> if there is a collision avoidance system on the aircraft that, indeed, may sound or get the pilot in the lead a heads up that you're back there. but if they're turning off equipment and they turned that equipment off as well it is possible. now, i admit, this is nighttime, it would be much more difficult but, again, we don't know what happened to that aircraft so we have to keep everything on the table. >> and that -- while that's a possibility, but then you have to look at what happens next? does the plane land? and then at once plane lands after it, for example, would shadow another plane into some sovereign country's territory, it's on the ground, now you've got to keep a secret. now you've also got close to 240 people that you have to take control of. now you're talking about a very

sophisticated plot that would take much more than a pilot and a co-pilot to pull off. i mean, you're talking about probably a state sponsor of terrorism that would be able to pull something like that off. >> i don't want to interject here but, look, a sophisticated pilot can fly low, maybe evade radar but we're talking about the borders of china, india and pakistan. these countries is fought more than five wars over these borders. they're heavily contested. there are millions of soldiers and equipment that are on these borders and radars that are pointed looking for low-flying aircraft. you're telling me that they can't see a 777, a boeing 777 with 250 people? it's the first time i've ever heard of anything like that. it would be very rare. it could happen but the chances are very, very slim and nobody from china or pakistan or india has seen any rar day evidence of this. in fact, they've denied seeing any radar evidence of this. so it's possible but it's an extremely slim chance. >> i want to go to tom costello who has just gotten wired up.

tom, i understand you have some new information for us. >> we have some breaking news there coming from our pete williams who is reporting to me this morning that the fbi is now assisting the malaysians. the fbi is now looking at copies of the hard drives taken from the computers from both the captain and the first officer's homes in malaysia. again, the fbi now assisted by looking at copies of the hard drives provided to them by the malaysians to get a sense of what's on the hard drives. you know, today we had this word from it will malaysians that they had found that some of the files on the computer associated with the flight simulator in captain shah's home, that some of those files had been delete sod there's a forensic effort under way to determine whether it's possible to retrieve any of that data and now we're hold that the fbi is assisting by looking at the copies of the hard drives from the computers of both men's homes. >> any indication at all, tom, how long something like that might take? >> i don't have any indication

at all but i think it's fair to say they don't want to rush this process, they want to make sure they're being thorough and they glean everything possible out of that data. >> all right thank you very much, tom, for that breaking news. i want to go to you quickly, don, as a former fbi special agent in charge. what kind of level of sophistication, what kind of group within the fbi would be handling something like this? >> as evan mentioned, there's a cart team, a computer analysis team, that has some very sophisticated digital forensic tools and the capacity to retrieve deleted files and find these digital bread crumbs that could lead to evidence. and this sounds like it's a very good step forward in trying to either rule in or out any nefarious activity because if there was something that was deleted and those deleted files contained information relevant to the investigation than that goes to motive and that's important. >> andprocedurals, police procedurals on tv but they always do it within, like, 24 hours or so. do you have a sense here? >> they can do kind of a cursory

search that they'll be able maybe within the first couple days to get some information but to drill down, it depends on how much data is on the hard drive and how sophisticated the users were to try to bury that information in deleted files and so forth. so i wouldn't want to give a timeline on this but they might be able to get some indication early but it will take a while to really get the definitive word. >> so breaking news just in case. one of the questions that we have talked about is why americans haven't been brought further into this investigation. well, now the fbi is looking at those files, the deleted files from the pilots, pretty sophisticated home system and we will know a little more potentially within days on that. i want to thank evan kholmann, don borrelli, jay collins. we appreciate your expertise. coming up, we'll talk about jeb bush back in the news as speculation ramps up he could make 2016 the year he runs for

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right now, new jersey governor chris christie is doing his other job as head of the republican governor's association. he's fund-raising in michigan and, despite the bridgegate controversy, he's raking in a lot of none the past couple months picking up about a million bucks in chicago, another million in boston, $1.5 million in texas. back in jersey, he's trying to move past the controversy and get back to the business of running the state. he's been talking to constituents at town hall meetings. okay, a little flare-up yesterday when protesters interrupted over sandy aid. then there was an exchange over

obamacare that's getting attention. >> so you're simply wrong. and to stand up here and to misinform people because you have an agenda is just simply incorrect. >> we have a budget statement. we will be happy to share it with you and we have asked for a meeting -- >> i write the budgets so i don't need to read your budget statement. i write the budget and medicaid has been expanded in this state and i'm sorry that you favor obamacare and i do not. >> i favor -- >> i'm sorry, that's just the way it goes. >> i want to bring in our company business insiders politics editor hunter walker and the "washington post" nia mali a henderson. you look at that clip, he's at a town hall and we've seen heckling in these town halls, we've seen exchanges. hunter, is he getting the ole chris christie sexu chris christie swagger back? >> well, they heckled him over the bridge and they've chosen these locations carefully. these are supposed to be

friendly territory for him and he's still getting hit with this. we used to see him put up these clips on youtube of these great moments where he would sort of challenge hecklers and people who argued with him and we're not seeing that now so it does seem to be sort of a slightly weaker -- >> a little more restrained exchanged and he certainly was respectful. and this is a guy the republican party was pointing to. they looked at his numbers, how he did in the election. kind of he was the future of the republican moderate wing of the party at least. he won women by 12 points, hispanics 19, democrats now don't seem too worried. here's debbie wasserman schultz. >> i think it's humorous that chris christie is the example that is the best example of republicans' evolution and ability to win the presidential election in 2016. if that's what they're going hang their hat on, a guy whose senior staff exacted retribution

against his own constituents in retaliation for a democratic mayor not supporting their candidate then i think we're going to be okay. >> does she a point nia or do you think some democrats might be publicly writing hip off too quickly? >> a couple months ago you had democrats very privately and publicly concerned about what a chris christie potential matchup against hillary clinton would look like and now i think they are definitely singing a different tune and they're singing a different tune because they are looking at the same polls that republicans are looking at and they show that chris christie has taken a major tumble. you saw the cpac poll, he didn't do well there. i talked to folks in iowa, who would win that contest if the vote was held today. huckabee's name came up, ted cruz, rand paul, they are looking at a very weak figure who, again, was very much celebrated just months ago after he won that very competitive -- that very -- that race in new

jersey where he really blew out the competition. so it's -- you know, i think this is a lesson in crowning someone too early as the front-runner and in some ways democrats should look at this as a lesson in terms of what this could mean for hillary clinton. >> but let's go back to fund-raising because the one area where he clearly is doing swell there. bridge gate doesn't seem to be hurting him. the rga last month set said christie said a fund-raising record for january. $6 million, that's after the bridgegate scandal. today he's in michigan for fund-raisers for terry lynd. you have to wonder, as long as the money keeps rolling in, hunter, i don't know, is he still in the game? >> well, you know, these trips have been very, very important for chris christie because as you've pointed out they've showed he can still raise funs and he still has some modicum of star power. but one thing that's gone on when he was in texas and illinois, the candidates he's supposed to be raising funds for

wouldn't even show up with him and we're seeing so many different investigations into christie now, it's not just the bridge, it's his sandy ads, it's david sampson, his port authority chair getting investigated for his business dealings so we have to see as this pressure mounts if the money holds up. >> in addition to that, we're waiting for a judge to rule whether or not bridget kelly , his ex-aide bill steppian will have to testify and turn over e-mails and text messages. so it may be a little premature given everything that's going on, what hunter said and other things that were going on to know where he's really going stand on all this. >> that's right. i'm reminded of that peanuts character pig pen and he has this cloud of dust around him? [ laughter ] and in some ways that is what chris christie is facing now. there's just so much going on around him, all of these different investigations that before he looked like this vaunted figure, right? and he could be pugnacious, that's what people liked about

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♪ ♪ no two people have the same financial goals. pnc works with you to understand yours and help plan for your retirement. visit a branch or call now for your personal retirement review. very volatile and dangerous situation in crimea where it appears russians are trying to complete the takeover with force. armed men stormed a military facility and killed one officer. ukraine's prime minister says the truck the men were driving bore the russian flag. across the board they are

morning. vice president joe biden met with leaders of latvia and lithuania and delivered a message from the white house. the u.s. will respond to any aggression against a nato ally. >> as long as russia continues on this dark path they will face increasing political and economic isolation. russia cannot escape the fact the world is changing and rejecting outright their behavior. >> so inside the white house right now critical decisions are being made about escalating actions against russia. >> more is coming. i don't have timing for you but work is being done to make further designations. >> let's bring in the "washington post's" ann garin and p.j. crowley. p.j., let's start with that conversation going on inside the white house. what are they talking about, what are the options here? >> well, i think first we're dealing with a post crimea situation. publicly it's not something

they'll acknowledge but privately they have to deal with the fact that ukraine is not going to get crimea back in the foreseeable future. what does that mean? first and foremost it's about doing what vice president joe biden is doing right now -- reassuring allies who are members of nato expressly because they fear a resurgent russia. second something what to do about ukraine. obviously it made a choice to turn west even though yanukovych made a different choice. so redeem that choice. how can you help make ukraine more stable? more prosperous? and help it fight its corruption problem? obviously everyone's talking about costs, now we have to follow through and try to find meaningful ways of having putin and his cronies pay a price for what they've done. i think finally it's also projecting well into the future. another country coming up in the coming months that will make the same choice that ukraine has made is moldova.

so there's a possibility with a province there that the russians may try to play the same destabilizing game in moldova that they've played in ukraine so how can you make that that as smooth a process working with allies such as poland, romania and others to try to help stabilize and reassure the central and eastern european allies. >> to your original point, though. i haven't heard anybody in any position say anything different than what you just said about crimea. in fact, listen to what senator dick durbin said this morning on "morning joe." >> there reaches a point -- and i think we're at that point -- where he's clearly going to take over crimea and maybe poised to move into eastern ukraine if f we don't take a stand, a good, hard, tough stand against him now with our european allies he's going to continue. >> ann, you and i have talked about this. the concern about eastern ukraine and whether or not there will be a destabilization or a taking over. so what are the specific options now that the white house might be looking at. >> well, as p.j. alluded to, the

most immediate option is sanctions and also a continuation of what vice president biden is doing today which is sort of making the rounds to reassure allies and nato members who are at the outer edges of nato and at the front doorstep of russia. but the administration is also confronting and so are the europeans the really bald fact that every single thing they've done so far has failed to stop putin from doing -- taking the next step. i mean, every single time they've drawn a line he's crossed it. so essentially drawing another line, a harder line, but essentially the same line. if you do this, we will impose further economic sanctions, further costs on you, we'll kick you out of the g-8. it shows absolutely no guarantee at this point of stopping him if he intends to move beyond crimea and into eastern your crane or even beyond that. >> so, p.j., i guess the question then becomes where is

that line? how far is the u.s. and particularly our european allies willing to go given the economic consequences that could happen as a result and given the concern about what will happen if we go too far in vladimir putin's eyes and will he retaliate? >> sure, but i think as we talk about a line, it's not just focussing on putin on his side, it's focussing on ukraine on its side. with the loss of crimea, actually, there's a potential here that ukraine becomes more solidified, stronger and politically stronger, politically more stable and now more prepared to turn west and redeem this choice that many in ukraine have made. so how can you not only shore up your security in the eastern part of the count voy that you deter putin from going further? and i think it's vitally important that ukraine get its

election right in may, that it produces a legitimate government, it produces a government that can rise above some of the zero-sum politics of the past. yanukovych on one side but can they produce a government that more ukrainians will believe in, more ukrainians will support and than you have crimea looking backward but you have ukraine looking forward and really earnestly work on this greater integration between the e.u. and ukraine economically. obviously yk took nato politics out of the equation yesterday that it won't pursue nato membership. >> because enough bigger picture question about a return to cold war relationships between the u.s. and russia and it was something that former secretary of state hillary clinton talked about yesterday. >> what putin did is illegal. it is against international law. it is not because we gave the poor little baltic states nato

protection and people need to say that and they need to be very clear that this is a clash of values and it's an effort by putin to rewrite the boundaries of post world war ii europe. >> and where does it go next beyond eastern ukraine as p.j. sid and how do we stop this from being a sustained period of confrontation? >> well, you see the united states on one hand and europe on another trying to make it stop here, trying to essentially say to putin we can not tell you that taking crimea is okay but the subtle signal that they're sending is that if he stops at crimea that their sanctions, their actions against russia are more than likely to stop there. and that's a dangerous precedent for a number of reasons but for -- primarily for the european allies it's better than

the alternative which is a potential explanation. there are lots of esoteric frozen conflicts in state department speak scattered throughout the former soviet space that potentially if putin wanted to, having seen his opportunity and taken it here he could do the same again. and that's really the great fear is that he will start picking these off one by one if there's nothing -- no meaningful way to stop him. >> ann and p.j., thank you. coming up, tough talk coming from the u.s. attorney general calling toyota's conduct "shameful." what did they do that has the company paying $1.2 billion? we'll have those details next. . 90% confident i'd say the right things. but with 100% odor protection, i had nothing to worry about. [ female announcer ] only secret offers clinical strength antiperspirant in your 2 favorite forms, with 100% odor protection. introducing new clinical strength invisible solid and new clinical strength clear gel.

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and remember one of the things that they were really looking at was the flight simulator, a pretty sophisticated one, in the home of the pilot. they are asking for help with analysis. so the fbi which has a special unit to do difference i can analysis of that kind of information will start with a cursory review that could take just some days and then we could have more information on this soon as they do a bigger dive. files on the pilots' flight simulator had been delete sod one of the first things they'll be looking for is to retrieve those deleted files. we will keep you updated. meantime, just last hour the justice department formally announced a $1.2 billion settlement with toyota over customer complaints that its cars accelerated without warning. now, this deal means the automaker and its executives won't likely face criminal charges providing they cooperate with independent monitors who are now assigned to watch the business. attorney general eric holder said this morning that the company is guilty of a coverup.

>> today we can say for certain that toyota intentionally concealed information and misled the public about the safety issues behind these recalls. put simply: toyota's conduct was shameful. it showed a blatant disregard for systems and laws designed to look after the safety of consumers. >> mandy is here with what's moving your money. mandy, what's the bottom line? >> as you say, toyota will have to pay $1.2 billion to resolve this criminal probe into all of those consumer complaints over the safety issues and they did admit that they misled u.s. consumers. they also said that they conceal add lot of information and they made deceptive statements about these safety issues which, as you say, led to sort of unintended acceleration. keep in mind that this is on top of over $1 billion that toyota paid last year to resolve some economic loss claims and there

have been hundreds of lawsuits over this. for toyota's part, they say, you know what? we've made changes. we've become more consumer-focused. we're going to be more responsive going forward and you can bet your bottom dollar who's going to be watching this? >> gm. >> gm. because they have their own recalls going on here over the ignition switch problems and the cases are kind of similar in the way that they've both been over a long period of time where the automakers were accused or having accused of not responding fast enough. so gm is going to watch very closely over this. >> one of the things they that i've been noticing going to the grocery store, pricing are going up. is this drought related? what's going on? >> it's a number of things. the severe winter weather we've been having, in some cases disease affecting crops and hogs and things like that. but you're right. we go to the grocery store and the official inflation numbers that we get from the government don't really tell the full story, do they? so you go to the grocery store and just for example we're showing some of these everyday

items like potatoes. so over the past greer february, 2013, to february this year potatoes went up over 9%. oranges went up over 12%. fresh fish about 10%. egg, milk, uncooked ground beef, you name it and some people feel it's only going to get worse before it gets better. >> love having you here. thank you. we'll be right back.

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jason, you're a texas guy. you know the bushes. are we reading too much into the schedule or is jeb bush looking at 2016 and saying "you know what? this is not just the best but it may be my final window to run for president"? >> i don't think he's meeting with sheldon adelson for gambling tips. he's looking at this presidential run. but the problem with the bushes isn't with swing voters, right now it's with the republican base and jeb bush has always displayed disturbing symptoms of cognition. he's more of a joe scarborough republican than a joe six pack republican. in fact, i think joe scarborough would have a better chance of getting the nomination than another bush. >> well, let's talk about the possibilities for jeb bush. the latest poll has him around 9%, alice, and i wonder, as we all wonder, even his mom said, you know, find another family already. is his name a blessing or a curse? >> well, i think the bush name brings a lot to the table and as he has said himself, at the end of the day this will be his decision, a decision he and his

family will have to make. it's a tough call having been in presidential campaigns. it's a family affair. but the gop asked him to campaign for candidates because he is a popular well-liked candidate and at the end of the day republicans realize this was an important year. there's a high priority and a high probability that republicans will maintain control in the house and win over in the senate and getting popular republicans like jeb bush out there on the campaign trail is important and it's all hands on deck for the republican party and he has certainly -- is someone to get out there and do that. >> and the other thick, obviously, is by their own analysis one of the things jason that's troublesome for the republicans is their outrage, particularly to the hispanic -- the growing hispanic community. this is somebody who speaks fluent spanish, obviously, from a state, florida, with a high spanish population. i mean, would he -- how nervous would he make democrats? >> well, he would be nervous --

he would make us more nervous if he could stick to what he writes in the book. no sooner did the galleys come out of his book in which he advocate add path to citizenship as being a necessary component of a republican platform than he had to disavow it. usually you hate until it hits the bookstores before you disavow your own book. that's the hostility that the republican base has to pro-immigration, pro-hispanic attitudes and policies that make jeb bush a good general election candidate but a lousy primary candidate. >> that brings us back to what is always the question. anybody who's moderate, alice, and you know it. can someone who could be a good strong challenger in a general election get through the primary process? >> well, here's the thing the republican party -- more than anything. we can't elect another moderate in the primary. we have to represent someone who represents the core values of the republican party. we need to find someone that has a good high name i.d., neex are out there on the stump now doing

well. we're looking at folks like mike huckabee, ted cruz, rick santorum, rand paul, these people that will certainly connect with the base but when it comes time for the general election they're people that people connect with. we didn't have that in the last two presidential campaigns and they need to be someone that reflects the core values of the republican party but really connects with people and certainly what we're learning last week in florida, we're learning that obamacare is not popular -- >> but you think connecting with people is enough if you're not more moderate in a lot of these issues? >> well, we learned that the hard way the last two presidential cycles. it needs to be someone that people like. i've been to a lot of focus groups and the reason barack obama won over mitt romney is because barack obama was a more likable candidate even though his policies have been terrible for this country. there needs to be someone that people recognize that they connect with them and understands their values but also represents the conservative values of this country. >> alice, jason, good to see

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good morning, everyone, i'm tamron hall and this is "news nation." we begin with developing news. the fbi is now assisting in the investigation into malaysia flight 370. fbi agents have been asked to complete a forensic analysis of the flight simulator taken from the home of pilot zaharie shah. now, this comes after malaysian authorities announced some of the data on that simulator was deleted in february. the fbi has also been given copies of the hard drives of computers from both the pilot and the co-pilot. now, the simulator and hard drives were removed from sla's home during a search over the weekend. malaysia's transportation minister cautioned, though, not to rush to judgment here. >> local and international expertise have been recruited to examen the pit'