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it is okay if he doesn't agree with obamacare. let new jerseyens decide what it is that they can choose. >> thanks for standing up. great work. politics nation with reverend al sharpton starts now. thanks for tuning in. tonight's lead march madness at the white house. it has become a presidential tradition. president obama took a few minutes this week to fill out his ncaa bracket. >> i have michigan state going all the way. been a while since. my pick michigan state, bring it home for me. it has been a while since i have won my pool. >> the president is looking for a slam dunk on his brackets and on his health care law.
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with just 12 days left to enroll he is playing off the tournament to get as many americans insured as possible. the white house wants people to vote on the 16 sweetest reasons to get covered. tomorrow president obama will visit the ellen degeneres show. it's another chance to push the law and maybe show off some dance moves. these efforts to get more people covered are working. in the first month of enrollment just over 100,000 people signed up. since the website glitches were fixed the numbers shot through the roof. in the first two weeks of this month more than 800,000 people signed up. 5 million people signed up through exchanges. we have 12 days to go. what are republicans doing on health care? nothing, nada, zilch.
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today politico reported here is the dirty secret about the house republicans' efforts to replace obamacare. they haven't even decided if they will hold a vote. if they'll hold a vote? that is a dirty secret because they are always going on and on about how they will replace the law. >> that's why the law must be replaced with patient-centered reforms. >> we think the thing ought to be repealed and replaced entirely. >> we vow to repeal and replace obamacare, not just repeal it. >> our budget does promote repealing obamacare and replacing it with a better system. >> i think you will see republicans come forward with a plan to replace obamacare. >> after four years of belly aching republicans still think they will come up with their own
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health care plan? five million people enrolled and they are still pretending they have a chance of getting rid of the law. sorry, speaker boehner. that game is over. joining me now is former ohio governor ted strickland, next month the president for the center for american progress action fund. also with us is jonathan capehart. thank you both for being here. governor, more people are getting covered every day. are republicans diluting themselves in saying this law will somehow just go away? >> i don't want to call them heartless but when you deprive people of health care coverage i think there is something wrong with your moral code and your value system. across this country there are states that are deprivinging people of getting coverage through expanding medicaid.
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there are people who are in desperate need and are being helped. as you said in the earlier part of this program millions of people have now gotten coverage as a result of obamacare. and millions more will get coverage as this program moves forward. and so we ought to be celebrating it. it is a wonderful thing for the country. and we ought to just dismiss the nay sayers and accuse them of deception and deceit because so many of them through this effort are spreading lies and deceptions and untruths. we need to call them out and encourage people especially young people to take advantage of this great opportunity to get health care coverage at an affordable rate. >> you know it is not just deception and lies. there are governors that are actually not expanding in their state and refusing to set the
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medicaid expansion. president obama was asked what he would do to those who refuse to accept. >> for people who currently do not have health insurance to get health insurance the idea that states for political reasons would turn that down makes absolutely no sense. i'm hoping after the politics of this are done people recognize it is the right thing to do for these families. >> after the politics is done. as we have seen throughout this president tenure the politics is never done. the president is right. he didn't say the word outrageous. i say it is outrageous to read stories about governors willfully keeping people from being able to access health care is something i never thought i would read about. health care and a job -- sometimes people take jobs and stay in jobs only because of the health care. it's not a job that they want to
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do or have but they need the health care. and the idea that the affordable care act is out there, passed by congress, signed by the president of the united states upheld by the supreme court of the united states to allow people health care who couldn't get it before now you have governors standing in the way of people accessing the benefit. it is beyond outrageous. >> it is mind boggling, governor strickland, that we are acting like this is normal politics for governors -- you have served in ohio. i have been there when you served. to act like it is normal for governors to block health care for their own citizens. it is inconceivable just a few years ago that that could even be possible. >> reverend al, it is an indication of how far offbase
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the right wing in this country have gone. reasonable people, reasonable people who are willing to sit down and discuss differences seem to be nonexistent, nearly nonexistent in the republican party today. they have been taken over by the extremists who are more concerned with an ideology than they are concerned about the well being of needy people who are unable under current circumstances or former circumstances before the affordable care act to get health care coverage. just an example, a friend of mine's child care provider recently discovered she had cancer. she had no insurance. she can get insurance now. she cannot be denied coverage because she has cancer. that's a wonderful thing. and we ought to be celebrating those kinds of changes that have been brought about as a result of this obamacare act. it is a wonderful thing.
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more and more americans are coming to realize, reverend al, that it is good for our country. and more and more people are signing up. there are a few days left in the enrollment period. by the end of this month we hope thousands and thousands more will go to the website and choose a health care plan that is affordable and of high quality. and that's a good thing. >> as we see these last 12 days and the numbers have grown, 5 million and it seems like they are going to do a lot better than the nay sayers and critics thought, will we begin to see this change, the republicans to tax and threat of intensifying those attacks in the mid term election with the affordable care act or are we going to see them not matter what just continue like they are delusional and act like this isn't working even though millions of people are signing up for it?
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>> right. they are going to continue their attacks. republicans will continue their attacks on the affordable care act, on obamacare right through the 2014 elections because we all know that it is still relatively unpopular because people for one reason or another don't quite understand or know what is going on with the law. that is something we talked about before, fault of the administration and selling the affordable care act. but republicans are going to use any and every piece of quote/unquote bad news related to this law to try to under pine the law. so one of the things i think we talked about last week, the goal was supposed to be 7 million signups by the march 31 deadline. and now we are at 5 million. guaranteed the republicans will call it a failure because -- >> i think the goal was moved to 6.
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>> if it is 5.999 they will say a fail. >> you have all of these people who are insured. you have people who will be able to access health care. as the governor said, there are so many benefits there that the administration, that democrats can hammer away at republicans on their running around talking about these planst that they have to repeal and replace obamacare but they haven't said anything about what happens when you repeal obamacare and the person with preexisting condition what happens to their insurance? >> we are always hearing republican obamacare alternative is just around the corner. the "washington post" says right now republicans are considering a provision to allow adult children to stay on parents' plan, thinking about creating high risk pools for people with pre-existing conditions. and allowing small businesses to purchase coverage together.
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all are a part of obamacare. why not stick with the same thing, governor? >> reverend al, they will not agree to anything this president does. we just have to accept that. but what really bothers me about what is happening is the distortions and untruths that are being spread around. the brothers and others like them are trying to buy our democracy and are doing it with their billions of dollars and by distorting the facts, telling lies and trying to manipulate the thinking of the american people. but i believe the american people understand that if you are a citizen of this country you need to have access to affordable, high quality health care and obamacare is the only plan out there. the republicans are devoid of plans. all they have is empty rhetoric. they talk about repealing and they talk about replacing but they are unwilling to come up
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with a replacement because they can't agree among themselvest that americans deserve the right to have access to affordable health care. >> i am going to have to leave it there. governor strickland and jonathan capehart. the fbi on the case, u.s. investigators trying to crack the mystery of the missing malaysian plane. why did the pilot erase files from his flight simulator at home? plus, a classic republican non-apology from the billionaire who talked about hitler and the 1%. and the year after the rnc promised to fix their woman problem, how are they doing? i'll give you a hint, not good. stay with us.
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women are still speaking out against women health rights and equalal pay. just check out comments from a state lawmaker in minnesota. >> we are losing the respect that we so dearly want in the work place by bringing up all these special bills for women and almost making us look like whiners. >> fair pay laws make women look like whiners? that's not all. just listen to what two republican leaders in texas are saying. >> men are better negotiators and i encourage women instead of pursuing courts for action to become better negotiators. >> what is the solution you think? >> if you look at it, women are -- whether working from home. and times are extremely busy.
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it's a busy cycle for women. we have a lot to juggle. and so when we look at this issue we think what's practical? and we want more access to jobs. we want to be able to go to get a higher education degree at the same time that we are working or raising a family. >> so let me get this straight. women need to stop whining, become better negotiators, and stop being so darn busy. that's the republican solution? apparently it is. because today the gop candidate for governor in texas promised to veto any fair laws that reached his desk. joining me now are jess mcintosh and abby huntsman. thank you for being here. >> i'm glad we found the time. so busy. >> i'm really happy you made it. let me rush you because i know you have a lot to do.
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women make about 77 cents for every dollar a man makes for doing the same job. don't republicans need to be more sensitive to issues like that? >> there is no such thing as being too busy for equal pay. maybe i'm misunderstanding that. or the idea that men are better negotiators. that had nothing to do with anything. you can tell she was thrown off and didn't know how to answer the question. i would have said i'm for equality. there are measures in the lilly ledbetter actt that might put a burden on businesses. why not be honest about how you are feeling. this is when republicans get into real trouble when they don't answer things honestly. we see that time and time again. >> as i listen to it, it is almost like she was blaming women, both of them. if we negotiated better we would be doing better. we are too bizbusy like they ar
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internalizing the fault for the ineequality. >> equal pay is women's number one work place issue. that is what we have seen. women care about it a great deal. you mentioned the 77 cents figure. that number is considerably lower for women of color. hispanic women population. this is something they are paying a lot of attention to. i can't really explain why republican lawmakers have had such a hard time coming up with an answer for it. first they say it doesn't exist and then blame women. >> a recent poll found 59% of women say the republican party doesn't understand the need and concerns of women. here is what right wingers were saying before the big re-brand. listen. >> if it is a legitimate rape the female body has ways to try
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to fight it. >> women. let's start our own abortion industry. >> play some of what they have been saying after the re-brand. >> if the democrats want to insult the women of america by making them believet that they are helpless without uncle sugar coming in and prescribing a prescription for birth control because they cannot control their libido or reproductive system without the help of the government. >> why not women like yourself have an adopt the woman birth control program. >> turning them into nothing but abortion machines. >> we have some real work to do. clearly there has been some damage done starting with the
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binders full of women comment. every time a comment is made it is just a pile on to that. the only positive i will say is recognizing there is a problem. you have rens preince priebus h recognizing there is a problem is the first part of it. but so much more than getting troops on the ground. it is about looking at how to change the messaging and changing policy. you look at the issues we care about. more women than men care about gay rights, immigration reform. 76% of women support raising minimum wage. they would be well curve served to look. women are more the bread winner today than they have been before. >> it is not just a social issue. it's issues like the minimum
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wage. president obama wants minimum wage to be over $10. it's key because two-thirds of minimum wage workers are women. >> absolutely. women know that when the minimum wage gets raised it is better for them and their families. democrats understand this and republicans don't. to get to the reince priebus part they have been saying they acknowledge it is a problem for more than a year now. they have to do something beyond saying we know there is a problem. it is like they are not trying. if they were trying the dayt that the report comes out showing greg abbott under pays the women in his attorney generals office he wouldn't come out and say he is going to veto equal pay legislation. he showed up with ted nugent as a campaign surrogate. this is not a man wanting to talk to women. >> if you don't have a good enough reason to be against something maybe you shouldn't be against it. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time. don't forget to catch abby on
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"the cycle" week days at 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. what does darryl issa, ted nugent and billionaire kevin langone have in common? find out in tonight's got you. and the fbi is trying to retrieve deleted files from the malaysian airline pilot's personal flight simulator. stay with us.
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you ever notice how right wingers seem to have a really hard time saying sorry? let's start with ted nugent's so-called apology for calling president obama a, quote, subhuman mongrel. >> i apologize for using the
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street fighter terminology of sub-human mongrel instead of just using more understandable language such as violator of his oath to the constitution, the liar that he is. >> he is sorry he called the president a mongrel but he's still a liar. not exactly how an apology is supposed to go. how about when chairman issa cut off congressman's microphone. >> i broke no rules. he broke the decorum of the house. i did things according to the rules and followed a script. mr. cummings decided to have a
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we have put every resource that we have available at the disposal of the search process. there has been close collaboration with the malaysian government, not just ntsb but fbi. anybody who typically deals with anything related to our aviation system is available. >> the president just a short time ago offering every resource in the search for the missing malaysia flight 370. it comes as the fbi is getting involved, malaysian officials have asked the bureau to help retrieve files that were deleted from the captain's flight simulator. the data was erased a little over a month ago.
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was it done out of retuoutine o was the pilot trying to hide something. the fbi given hard drives from computers of the captain and co-pilot. the news comes as more details emerge from the flight. with so much confusion this morning insight. the flight's u turn appears to be a smooth 20 degree turn. u.s. government sources do not believe reports that the plane climbed to 45,000 feet and descended to 5,000 feet. that radar data appears unreliable. it is possible that passengers slept through all of this never knowing something was wrong. >> with each passing day frustrations continue to mount. at a daily press conference today a mother of one of the passengers broke down before being taken away by police and officials. it just adds to the growing
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pressure to find out what happened to flight 370. the plane's black box will only emit a signal for roughly 19 more days. time is running out. joining me now is a retired american airlines captain and a former u.s. naval aviator and an nbc law enforcement analyst. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> jim, people delete files all the time. what are your questions about the simulator if you are leading up this investigation? >> you want to know if the flight path that was put into flight 370 was ever tested or tried on the simulator. and then, of course, you want to know who else had access to the simulator? for example, did the pilott have the co-pilot over and let him
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run the simulator, as well? did he have friends that could have been passengers on the plane. remember, if this was a criminal act -- we don't know that for sure. it could be an accident or criminal act. if it was a criminal act, the person who committed it is on board the plane or was on board the plane. 239 people, most of them are innocent souls. if it was a criminal act the suspect is on board. you have a narrow suspect list. you have to dive deeply into each and every person. >> as an aviator what are the key questions you have about the simulator? >> well, i would want to know about the airports that he had on the simulator, if he practiced any particular routes that would have taken him to various parts of the world. if those airports came with a package of a larger bunch of airports that included places
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like kuala lumpur and it was just thrown in as part of a commercial package or did he special order some oddball airport? that might lead us in the direction of what happened. >> what is the fbi looking for on those two pilots' hard drives? >> reverend, they are looking for your life. we have a computer forensics experts and fbi. we have an atf, secret service, homeland security, major police forces, as well. nowadays our lives are on the devices. it is what you are thinking all the time, your hobbies, what you like, the movies you watch and books you read. it is everything about you. so there is a whole lot of information on there that can give you a picture into who the person is that is not there anymore. so it is extremely valuable to investigators. really needs to be done on all the passengers if we are going to find out what happened here. >> you know, you flew in this part of the world as a young
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navy pilot. what can you tell us about conducting a search in this area? >> well, for lack of a better term it is a third world area. that means the coverage of radar, the various systems that are in place will not be the latest, the most up to date necessarily. one example was the information that malaysia air did not carry all of the information that they could have gotten from the pings that continued to occur. so that particular part of the world has vast oceans. so if the plane went into the ocean there you are going to have a very, very difficult time finding it. there are also a number of countries that are covered by jungle. they have rough terrain. there is just many numbers of airports. it's just going to be a real
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viper's nest to try to figure this out. >> so you are not dismissing the idea that this could have landed, this could be on land? >> absolutely not. the only thing that i'm close to dismissing is that it was some sort of an accident, something that happened on the aircraft that caused all of this. i can't think of anything. however, when it comes to whether the pilot decided to commit suicide, that is still on the table for me and also very much sot that they could have flown somewhere in order to do something at a future date. >> jim, we've got 19 days left before the black boxes stop the transmissions. do you think we will be able to locate them by then, the plane that is? >> reverend al, i would never under estimate the united states navy. i think it is a daunting task. i think in the next couple of
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weeks while the batteries are alive will be the best chance. you have to remember from all of the experts on the show we know that the voice recorder will be lost because the flight has been going on for so long which could have been some of the most valuable evidence of what was going on in the cockpit, a voice tape. the data will be valuable, too. there is also a lot of other data that could be gleaned in the case investigatively. you are starting to see authorities get that from the computers. the answers are still there. it takes the investigative team, they have to ask questions and we have done it on so many other cases. it can be done here, as well. >> thank you for being here. coming up, forget the conspiracy theory as, we'll get into what investigators are actually looking at as they try to find this missing plane. also, a republican lawmaker
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answers. joining me now nbc aviation correspondent, tom costelo. so much speculation. you broke big news last night on how the change of direction was made at least 12 minutes before the co-pilot said good night. it tells investigators this was intentional and not an accidental move. why is this so significant to investigators? >> it is potentially significant because it could suggest, as you said, that the pilot had some premeditation there. in other words, if they had pre-programmed in the u turn before the radio call saying good night then it would suggest that somebody had already planned the move. i would caution that our own aviation experts have said some pilots are known to pre-program in kind of the u turn as a safety escape. if something goes wrong they can
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do a u turn. this information, we are told by our government sources, was transmitted via the system by a data burst of information that came down at 1:07 a.m. and then 12 minutes later we had the last radio call. as for the latest developments today off the coast of australia by about 1,500 miles it's a three-hour flight. they have shrunk down the search zone to about 102,000 square miles, roughly the size of colorado. they are going over this in a methodical way with airplanes. doing a grid search and using advanced radars and capability on board those planes to look for any signs of debris. and if they find debris then they would have to do a series of very advanced mathematical calculations taking into consideration the currents down in the ocean to figure out if
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this crashed allegedly 12 days ago or so, how far might the debris have travelled and then try to find the plane and then hopefully find the black box. you can see why this is becoming an increasingly difficult, challenging and i would say really probably an unlikely scenario that they are going to find the black boxes before the pingers run out. the batteries die in about another 17 days or so. >> what is the clock they are racing against? how many days? >> those pingers, these are under water location pingers that are attached to the black boxes. every plane, as you know, has to have a black box. the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorderer. the under water pingers immediately start pinging so the sonar would pick them up if they are in the water. it has been 12 days now. the range on the pingers is really rather limited. depending on the maker and thermal conditions in the water,
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how cold it is, different layers in the water you can get from two miles to eight to ten miles of range. you really have to be almost on top of it to hear it. if you are in the search zone of 102,000 square miles you can see how this is becoming increasingly challenging for anybody to hear the pinger in a short period of time. >> great work on this story. thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. it's the question the world is asking, where is the plane? today a new potential lead, several residents of ttold the l airport they saw a low flying airplane. the island is southwest of india. nearly 2,000 miles from kuala lumpur. and the timing would match the
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path of the vanished flight if it had continued to flight in the direction it was turning. but this was quickly discounted today from malaysia's acting transport minister. so much information, so many theories. let's separate the fact from fiction. back with retired american airlines captain. many have shot down that the plane could have flown over the maldives. what is your reaction? >> i tend to agree. i don't think that a pilot -- he would first of all know that the maldives were out there. if he didn't intend to land there what would be the purpose of coming down so low so he could be identified just to ditch the aircraft on the other side? there isn't any place else to land. i don't think that is what happened. let's move to the next question. could it have been terrorism?
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it is a question so many are asking. investigators are looking into the background of all 239 people on board. so far no red flag. do you believe this might have been terrorism? >> i'm worried that it could be. you know, there is an air worthiness directive that is out that is for the boeing 777 that warns against possible hacking from passengers that are located in the back that are watching the passenger entertainment system, that it has a vulnerability that eboeing is asking the operators to correct so that there is no way that a person in the back of the plane can access the main computer and put in false information or have the aircraft begin turns. so you have that problem going. you also have a problem that there is every reason to believe that the captain was very upset.
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he was very politicly involved to the extent that a friend of his was being arrested that day. he actually went to court and sat in the trial. and when his friend was arrested by all accounts the captain was very upset about it. a few hours later he climbs into the cockpit. that is not to say that a person can't get upset and still fly an airplane safely, but it does give concern. >> we mention the scrutiny the pilots are under. a natural question is was it pilot suicide? many are talking about that. what are your thoughts? >> well, pilot suicide, the first response is why didn't he just point the plane to the water and go in right there? usually a person that is in a position like that that would be thinking of doing such a thing would not want to fly on for a
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long period of time and give passengers a chance to intercede or even the co-pilot. how is he going to deal with the co-pilot? i just don't think that is as likely. now, it is possible. i'm not taking it off the table -- because the captain could have gotten rid of everyone else by one means or another and then he proceeded to go flying into the dark much like you might think of a ship that just goes out into the darkness and goes into a deep emotional depression and just sort of thinks his life through. i really don't feel that is what happened. >> you are going to leave that on the table. you don't think that is what happened. thank you for your time. coming up republicans across the country are trying to suppress minority voters. today one republican is saying he is embarrassed and can no
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right into our homes from the iran contra hearings to the passing of the affordable care act to the triumphant return of gabrielle giffords. we have seen just about everything on c-span. we saw one lawmaker wear a paper bag on his head to highlight a banking scandal. we saw another wear a hoodie to honor the memory of trayvon martin. we have seen giant stamps used as props and some props that just left us guessing. there is no question c-span has been a source of information and entertainment over the past three-and-a-half decades. >> what's wrong with us? am i different? no. have i changed my pants? >> it's republicans wrapping
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provide proof of their u.s. citizenship. this means most new registrants would have to provide a birth certificate or passport to register to vote. the guy who questioned president obama's birth certificate spear headed the law. he called it a huge victory today. why? because it will disenfranchise minority voters. but in wisconsin where the senate just slammed through new voter suppression measures one republican says he can't defend his party anymore. >> but the fact is it ought to be abundantly clear to everybody in this state that there is no massive voter fraud. we should be pitching ideas for improving things in the future rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it more
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confrontational at our voting sites and trying to suppress the vote. >> a republican saying we should not be trying to suppress the votes. there is no voting fraud. that is why many of us will not stop until we back down those that mere ely want to undermine every american's right to vote and vote easily. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. worst case. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews teaching at the university of san francisco. let me start tonight with this. nothing concentrates the minds of the great samuel johnson like the prospect of being hanged. knowing whatep

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