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are not going to see anywhere else. we have celebrity astronaut chris hadfield on the evolving role of satellites and one of the highest ranking diplomats in the world on the international relations impact of this search. plus, we have more for you on this week's call to action on homelessness. with a special guest and special appeal on a surprising vulnerable category of homeless americans. first up though, today's headlines. >> everybody is talking about these two satellite images that were captured on sunday. >> new incredible information has come to light. >> you see the whitish objects just under the surface of the indian ocean. >> 9-foot seas, 25 knot winds. >> clouds and rain limiting the visibility. >> today's searching effort has just ended for the missing malaysia airlines, it's now dark in this part of the world. >> the planes are the best hope the satellite image is leading them to the right area.
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>> if you get a lead, start trawling with sonar to pick up noise from the ping sound. >> the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult. this is a lead. it is probably the best lead we have right now. >> the world is watching as russia positioned its military in a way that could lead to further inkurgss. >> will isolate it further from the international community. >> all right, we have got new information today on the hunt for flight 370. that search is going to resume in a few hours for possible debris from the missing jet liner and they are now looking off the coast of australia. here's what everybody is trying to find, two items spotted by satellite floating in the south indian ocean. these images are captured in a
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remote area about four hours offshore from the city of perth in australia with within a possible identified flight path. there's a big catch, the satellite images you've been seeing all day are four days old and that's a long time for debris to move around. >> we must keep this in mind. the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult. and it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight mh 370. >> the australia authorities have called in the cavalry, including specialized p3 and p8 airplanes and a norwegian car carrier. we spoke to a representative of the ship's owners earlier today. take a listen. >> the saint petersburg was on a
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regular mission from south africa to perth australia when it was requested from the australian authorities -- >> and we are going to bring much more of that exclusive conversation with the ship at the heart of this search. but for now, we want to take a moment to show images of the families who are waiting and watching to find out if another false lead or something more. we're going to start out giving a basic overview of where we stand with tom costello. he's been in the trenches of the story, monitoring the search from the beginning. what's actually new about this debris find? >> hi, ronan, good afternoon. these are the pieces of debris. one of them is about 79 feet and that's a big piece of debris. the other one we're told is somewhere in the neighborhood of 16 feet. here's the area we're looking at. it is a long way down from malaysia all the way down to this point, four miles, 1500
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miles off the coat of australia -- four hours, rather. you take the intersecting lines of the last known location on the satellite ping and extrapolate out that was the destination or the heading, if you will. then you figure, okay, what's the last amount of fuel, the last drop of fuel that you could get out of this plane when those two lines intersecretary? guess what, they intersect right about there. that is where the ntsb was suggesting that australian authorities look there. now they find this piece of debris, two pieces as we said, about four hours outside of perth. here is the challenge. the water has been rather rough. we're talking about 9-foot waves and talking about 25 knot winds and poor visibility today. they have got that challenge, plus they are looking for a needle in a haystack, still looking in a gigantic swath of the ocean there in rough seas
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for two pieces of floating debris. now we've already been cautioned that it's entirely possible that this is not the plane, that there is a lot of junk floating out there in the ocean thanks to all of us humans and possible it's something else. but it is at least something to go on and now these submarine hunting aircraft with sophisticated radars are in inbound again in a few hours to run the search grids again. >> nbc news correspondent tom costello, appreciate the latest minute to minute. we may come back to you as this evolves. what comes next in this search? to make sense of it, i'm going to bring in two experts, john cox, former airline captain and also a friend of the show and former ntsb investigator greg feith is back with us. how is australia taking the lead in the investigation changed things? >> i don't think they've taken the lead in the investigation but they have taken a lead in
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searching that part of the world. they've honed down the information based on what satellite photos that they received, they are trying to put assets in the right place with the assistance of the united states, the ntsb, and faa, so they are trying to do and cover that part of the territory that might give us the best return as far as information and of course wreckage that we've been looking for now for 13 days. >> and john, a little more on the australian role. let's talk about the resources they are using to find the debris. what kind of technology is on board these p3 and p8 aircrafts? >> the p3 is an older generation four engine turbo prop designed to hunt submarines in the '60s and 70s. the p-8 is the state of the art airplane. it's got very sophisticated radar and a number of sensors on board. it's a significantly faster.
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so it can cover a lot of area in a hurry. the thing to recognize is that the international cooperation here between these 26 countries is remarkable. everyone has stayed focused on it. the assets that have been requested have been provided and that's -- that's a very, very important element to get us to find the debris field and lead us to the wreckage. when we talk about the question how leading is the role australia is playing, it's important to note they were asked for assistance and delivering up as you say. if they do find the two items they are searching for, how long do you think it will determine whether the at the brdebris is even from a plane. what do you think? >> i think there will be experts that will be brought in. if they can visually sight the debris and get pictures of that and get that to the experts, boeing, for example, will have experts that will immediately be
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able to determine if that is part of a boeing 777. if it is, we then have a starting point to start expanding the grid, the search grid out looking for additional debris, things like seat cushions and things like baggage that may have been in an overhead bin that is open and floating. those kind of smaller items that a satellite can't see, visually they'll be able to map it debris field quickly and that will give us an estimate of the size and also what the wind and current has done to distribute this debris field. >> greg, back to you, based on where this debris was found and what it's looking like as of now, compared to the flight paths, what does that tell you about what might have happened to this plane? >> ronan, it's consistent with what we've suspected with the pings from the acars system, the arc as tom talked about. what the faa and boeing did is
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extrapolate out based on a ground speed they previously received off the radar, 450 knots or there about, at altitude of 30,000 feet and tried to determine what distance or what the fuel endurance would be on the airplane and where they believed it would be exhausted. when you match those two lines up, that's really what forms the basis for the new search area and it just so happened when they started getting into that search, they found that the satellite photo, we found these two large pieces of some sort of debris, it was consistent, it was near that area. so there is cautious opt mission, we may have found hopefully some parts of the airplane but we won't know until they can get an airplane down there and take high resolution pictures or get a sea state ship on site to look at it closer. >> a lot to chew on here. more information than we've had in days but also a lot of big
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questions. captain john cox and greg feith, pleasure, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> as we reported before, the norwegian merchant ship was asked directly by australian authorities to help the search because they were nearby at the time. they were the first vessel to reach this area. we spoke exclusively with the ship's spokesman earlier today to get more details on what exactly their role is. >> 8,000 cars on board and not made for such rescue but it has radar and capacity and something that trained for and there are -- transportation equipment, they are in direct dialogue with the australian authorities who guide them what to look for and what areas to look in basically. they are observers. >> another big part of the story
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today, bad weather and really low visibility are hampering the search efforts causing them to be scaled back. they are called off for the evening. will the same challenges remain when they begin again in a few hours? to get a detailed answer i'm joined by nbc meteorologist veronica johnson. thank you so much for coming in to explain this. >> sure. >> this is not an image i could make sense of myself. what are the conditions and do you expect them hold sng. >> this that area there's a whole lot the clouds and still a lot of rain. at the same time you have the big wave heights that were occurring a few hours ago around 10 feet. now, as i said, underneath the clouds, a lot of rain close to the debris field. here's the coast of australia and here's the coast of africa. in between, huge area of the indian ocean, that clouds are expected to get closer to australia but more away from the debris field. that will give them a window of opportunity tomorrow to get out there, even if that means going
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around a cluster of storms or heavy rain. they should be able to make their way around that and get close to the debris field and make sense of what's going on there. >> how much do you think the progress that can be made on the search is dependent on the vagueries of weather? >> it's huge because here's the thing. all of this you're looking at, these arrows, those are wind barbs, going from west to east. these are westerlies, big area of high pressure. those westerlies are key. with the debris field here, it's likely to move closer to australia, along with that, is the researchers and investigators start to piece together what happened, they could potentially put their attention over here in the southwestern portion of the indian ocean and start to look for maybe other parts of this potential plane that's gone down. >> thank you very much, veronica johnson. we're going to keep looking at
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the mystery and it's also dominating social media. we're going to look at all angles you're suggesting. we want to turn to you and know your leading theory on what happened ton malaise gysia flig 370. we'll put your top responses to one of our experts later in the program. chime in with what you think happened at hash tag rfd theory and stay tuned for more. up ahead on "ronan farrow daily," we'll have the latest from melbourne australia as that country takes a central role in the search for this missing plane. plus, fuzzy satellite images and super so fisty indicated search planes, to find things under water but the answers seem to be coming from the air and space. we're going to turn to one of the world's most famous astronauts for answers. later, russian forces are amassing on the border of eastern ukraine and the president is doubling down on
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welcome back, australian authorities are pulling together resources from all across the globe and we'll look later at the international cooperation happening. one key tool at their disposal is their most robust space technology that they are deploying and they are using those to help track down these two pieces of debris that we're talking about today. nbc news correspondent sarah james is in the thick of it in melbourne. how optimistic do authorities seem they can track the debris down? what technology are they
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deploying to reach that goal? >> well, ronan, one thing i would say about australia, they have a can do spirit. when they go after something, they expect to attain it. i think that's what's going on in this particular case. they were very heartened by seeing these images on the satellite and then taking time to pore over those images. it's worth noting that took four days. then looking at those images they felt like it was credible in their words that these could be pieces of missing jet liner. in terms of the technology, they have p3 orions, australians have a couple and new zealanders have another one and united states brings another weapon to the table a poseidon used for surveillance and other methods. these are all very sophisticated aircraft that are being put to the test though, ronan, because these conditions really are
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appalling. we're talking high seas and rain and clouds. it's going to be difficult but they are optimistic. >> all right, really a lot going on there out of australia. thank you, sarah james, we appreciate your being there for us. we're looking navy ships and sea hawk helicopters and subtracking vehicles from australia. but what's interesting actually is that the most important information may come from a tiny camera in space. we are going to look at the aerospace component of this search and in the end, it could be that that makes or breaks the difference in that. so for an in depth look and perspective from somebody who actually has dealt with aerospace technology in the flesh, more than most ever did, we're going to turn to live on pt phone commander chris hadfield, retired astronaut and former space station commander. >> i'm here and it's my pleasure
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to join you. >> you had a five-month long view from space, few on earth ever get that. you're adept at looking at the waters from a long distance as satellite images are. i want your gut, when you see these images, what do you think? do they look like debris that stands out and worth investigating to you? >> ronan, the immensity of the sea is hard to express. even going as fast as the space station goes at 5 miles a second, it's such a huge untracked area. and i think in fact from satellites is going to be our first best bet in order to find a debris field, if there is one. looking at the imagery, it's a very promising lead. it's not conclusive at all and could be something that was swept off a ship. but if this isn't the case, it may very well be the way we find the wreckage of this plane assuming that's what happened to it. looking at the sequence of events, that's a very probable
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outcome. but i've been in the bottom of the space station with the biggest lens that we have staring at the sea and taking pictures of the surface and the vagueries of rerefleks off the water and even with the p3s, it's not nearly as simple as you would like it to be. if someone glances away or catch the wave the wrong way, trying to repeat a grid pattern to make sure they truly exhausted everybody they've looked. it's a really complex thing to do. it sounds like australians are doing what they do well and doing it as best they can. but it's still going to be -- all of the people in anguish, it gives them some hope but but no means is it closed yet. >> we're now dealing with nearly 3 million square miles that have to be searched and knowing what you do about that view from space, do you believe satellite
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images are the best starting point? is that where we should be turning more? >> absolutely. initially i was hoping that you would see some of the fuel of the airplane would change how the water reflects the light. like an oil slick. and that's very visible from space especially when you look in the sun but there's been so many days that would have dissipated and know we'll look down to debris. lots of different types of satellites, including those recently released from the space station but that's going to be the best bet or eventually depending on how close it was to shore, just like after the tsunami in japan, thousand those bits washed to sea are starting to wash up on the shores of north america, eventually parts of it will wash up somewhere, but of course, just for the trials that people are going through, the sooner we can find something, the better. >> all right, somebody who knows the view from space.
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thank you so much for joining us. >> i wish everyone the greatest of success. i sure hope we found what we're looking for. >> we may turn back to you at some point because this is an important aspect of this and the way in which satellite imagery is changing the future of searches of this type is intriguing and at the center of this story. all right, well with thousands of russian troops at the border with ukraine, president obama is announcing new expanded sanctions against russia. take a listen. >> nations do not simply redraw borders or make decisions at the expense of their neighbors simply because they are larger or more powerful. >> we're going to take a moment and come back to the plane, but first, to look whether vladimir putin is rewriting the map of europe before our very eyes and what if anything the u.s. can or should do? we'll go deep on that issue with ian bremmer. stay with us. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]
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we've been working closely with our european partners to develop more severe actions that could be taken if russia continues to escalate the situation. as part of that process, i signed a new executive order today that gives us the authority to impose sanctions not just on individuals but on key sectors of the russian economy. >> all right, that was president barack obama just moments ago. he announced that more senior russian officials are going to be added to the list of those facing sanctions, not to be outdone, the kremlin quickly slapped their own sanctions on a number of u.s. officials including senator majority leader reid and john boehner and john mccain, including odd junior officials. today the situation in the
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ukraine on the ground is also explosive and rapidly changing and russia's might continues to be felt there. we're going to live to eastern ukraine right now and to nbc news chief correspondent richard engel, always a pleasure to have you on the show sir. thank you so much for joining. >> reporter: it's a pleasure, ronan. what we're seeing here in this eastern part of the country is a lot of nervousness and across ukraine there is a great deal of nervousness. they just saw crimea be detached from the country. russian forces taking over and then moving to annex crimea. and then we're hearing from vladimir putin in a very -- what russian officials are describing a historic speech. it's been highlighted repeatedly in the russian media. in which we are effectively hearing the putin doctrine where vladimir putin went out and said the soviet union's collapse was
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a catastrophe and it was his duty and russia's responsibility to protect russian nationals or ration speakers in any area where they might be. and this part of ukraine, east ukraine and southern ukraine, not just the crimea, has a great deal of russian speakers. so if you're living here, you think, well, after crimea, perhaps we're next. and i theink that's why the sanctions are coming, to try to draw a line and deter russia from intervening in east ukraine. there are some military activities going on. we were just along the russian border earlier today and we saw some ukrainian troops digging in, filling sand bags and digging trenches and fox holes but the reality is this country does not have anything close to the fire power or strength of the russian military and it would be a walkover if the
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russians decided to invade. >> of course, the u.n. envoy -- ukraine's envoy to the u.n. did come out earlier and said they think that that further invasion prospect that you were talking about is possible. we'll watch closely to see whether that's the case. thank you for that update, richard engel. . the tension doesn't look likely to ease some time soon and raises big questions for the western world. one comment ator is ian bremmer, a political scientist who specializes in this type of volatile state and he's been writing about the ukraine and his projections are not op optimist optimistic. >> thank you. >> you have been critical about u.s. actions, we saw announcements today. i'd like your assessments on those and talk about your criticism of the united states role in the beginning of this conflict. you said essentially the lack of western support pushed ukraine
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into the arms of russia. >> that's very clear. nukovych, the former president was not wanting to sign a deal only with the russians who is very interested in having a european deal, a trade deal. the europeans pushed very hard and germans and americans and imf were not prepared to provide support. the russians came in with their over $15 billion. then we had ukrainians up in arms domestically and crackdown and violence then suddenly we were concerned. our level of concern, the sanctions are real. obama put sanctions on and they include a couple ol garks and the russian bank. we will now see capital flight from russian oli garks into different places. they will move and that will have an impact on the economy. let's be clear, putin's ratings have skyrocketed on his -- >> even as the russian economy
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flounders. >> it was floundserring beforehand. the russians across the board believe ukraine is theirs and believe that the united states has if facilitated a steady russian decline degrgeographica and economically around the world. most russians have been waiting for 20 years for this speech that putin gave just 24 hours ago. >> and it was well received. >> incredibly well received in russia. it is diametrically opposed to the world view and that creates very serious potential for confrontation in ukraine and beyond. >> you talk about the need for more western support earlier, pre-crisis, is it real little the responsibility of the united states to bail out ukraine before there's a crisis rather than say the imf. >> i'm saying through the imf but he had the potential to offer him a deal. >> wouldn't you hope they would
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come more through the neighbors with a approximate strategic interest? >> sure but who's taking the tougher sanctions, the americans or europeans? the americans. wouldn't we hope they would be coming from the europeans -- >> there's been talk from angela merkel and from david cameron to kick russia out of the g-8. do you think this changed the world order forever, is this a fundamental shift where we see less russian koops cooperation. >> they have not been immensely cooperative over the past years but they will be fundamentally uncooperative. russia is not very relevant. they've got assad and snowden, not a portfolio you would want but chinese are not with us and not with russia. they want nothing to do with this. if the chinese go with the russians, we would have a cold war because putin wants to set
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that up. he no longer has that capability. we've kicked someone now who's down and who's -- you've got to understand, ukraine from the russian position is by far their most important national security interest outside their country. nothing else is close. they are not going to back off of their behavior on the basis of us slapping visa restrictions and asset freezes on a couple of handfuls of russian officials. that ain't happening. >> an uphill battle and fundamental changes to the political landscape. we'll come back to you as we keep following this issue. ahead on quts ronan farrow daily, don't go away for an unusual unexpected take from bill richardson. iwe don't back down.
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welcome back to the show, everybody, today the international dimensions of the search for flight 370 have been a big part of this story, thus far of course the malaysian authorities have taken the lead in giving sometimes jumbled frankly information. australia is now playing a central role. their radar network was the one that picked up the debris that everyone is watching with bated breath. for more on the international picture and the dicey diplomacy involved in the search i'm joined by former ambassador bill richards richardson. thank you. do you think australian authorities and malaysian authorities will be able to cooperate he effectively on this given their overall relationship? >> they are going to have to cooperate but obviously there's going to be a lot of tension. because when a disaster like this hits, there's enormous
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pressure on the affected government to act, to act quickly and decisively. malaysia hasn't done it. and so there's also internal malaysian politics involved here because the pilot is a member of the opposition of the malaysian government. that's caused enormous criticism internally in malaysia. internationally, ronan, what happens is because of the great glare of publicity and the fact that malaysia has mishandled the families and press and information, they didn't ask for help sooner from the united states, from other countries that tech no logically can be more helpful like australia, yeah, it causes in the back rooms enormous tension. i'm sure china, australia, malaysia, all of them have had internal battles diplomatically over disclosure, over what do you know. and it could be malaysia hasn't
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spilled out all of the information that they have. so this is a very tense diplomatic situation also. >> and what is this international search effort in all of its stumbles and lack of cooperation reveal about u.s. relationshipwise the asia pacific region. we may now work with australia. what does this say with the future of cooperation with this region as we're pivoting towards more. >> if you look at china, for instance, they are taking aggressive steps and increasing their military. they are not being helpful with north korea. they want to dominate that region. other countries like malaysia, like tahailand, they don't want china to dominate and want better ties with the u.s. the u.s. has played this well, cooperated with malaysia, fbi and navy and aerial searches but
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you have to be very sensitive and not make malaysia look like they don't have the capacity to do it and therefore we're bailing them out. obviously malaysia made a mistake in not getting other countries with more technology, more search capabilities to handle it, but a lot of it was because of their own internal politics, the huge criticism they are getting from the opposition on how the malaysian government has handled it. it's been coupled with the malaysian government's inability to handle families. i think the footage of the mother yesterday crying and being hauled away is just devastating. so yeah, a lot of tension. >> and obviously the world has been watching some of that disarray on display. thank you for that explanation based on the internal politics and a lot of changes in the international landscape, thank you so much former ambassador to the united nations, bill richardson. >> thank you. >> we're going to continue our call to action this week as we
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that is a stunning gap and we're going to look at why and what can be done about it. ally sheedy is a member of the largest organization in the country dedicated to meeting needs of lgbt youth. if you lived through '80s, you know she's an actress and a fine one. >> thank you. >> lgbt youth are prone to run away from home, very often kicked out of their homes and the shelter system doesn't have a safe place for them. they are not safe in a normal shelter. they do need their own special place and care. >> there are currently no federal programs specifically focused on the demographic, despite the stunning numbers. what do you think needs to change? >> there needs to be recognition and resources sent out and put out there and networks put out there to help those kids. those kids are voiceless. it takes aenter in new york, cindy lauper has her work she
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does. trying to put things in place for the kids but there's not a federal program for them. >> a big challenge is the lack of emergency beds for the lgbt youth kicked out, they've got nowhere to go. homeless center you work with has 77 shelter beds -- >> 89. >> 89 is the latest number, which is a wonderful and important life saver but apparently their waiting list is hundreds. >> 40% of the homeless youth in new york city, those numbers stay true here, are homeless and lgbt. >> what can they do at home? >> research ally forny and we like bill de blasio. >> you are a mother of an lgbtq
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youth. >> it's very personal, the reason i got involved with the center. i have a queer kid and the idea there would be a child like my child kicked out or run away or rejected by society with nowhere to go, it affect me deeply and brought me to work with the center. >> thank you for the work you're doing. a lot of people have called out for a focus on this particular segment of the population, thank you for bringing your voice to it. >> thanks for having me. >> our call to action for you, we're asking you to call your local city hall and ask how many of those emergency shelter beds are available where you live. let us know what you find. you can tweet us at ronan daily or e-mail them. we'll have much more of this story tomorrow. up next, you have been sending your theories on the missing plane today. we'll go back into the thick of it and turn to an expert. was it a flight fire? hijacking?
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all right. welcome back everybody. conspiracy theories have flooded the internet since flight 370 dropped off the radar. many of you at home have been sharing your theories with us under the #rfdeerie. three people said, aliens. i feel you. one tweeted obama didn't do, but who can be sure, really? to hash over a few of your more plausible suggestions i am joined by daniel rose. he is an aviation attorney and military trained pilot and a friend of this show. first of all, i'll start out with one theory we've been
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hearing a lot of. viewer stan marlboro favors a common lily discussed one. electrical fires on board. what do you think of that? >> fire is real, i think, whether it's electrical or otherwise induced. it explains the randomness of these various systems shutting down. for instance, if you have a fire, say, in the nose wheel area, the transponder antenna is right there. it can explain the transponder going off. one of the radio antennas are right there. it can also explain the radios going off which is the system everybody is so preoccupied with. it gives you a randomness that explains these pattern of events that we see which are really just data points at this point. >> right. that was noncommittal. still helpful for our take on that theory. viewer emily rhoades thinks changes in altitude could have rendered everyone unconscious and allowed the plan to crash. what do you think of that? >> these are all good questions.
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they kind of work together. part of what you would use as an explanation in even a fire scenario, once the fire ruptures the cabin now you've got a depressurized situation where you don't have oxygen in the cabin. it's the same as being -- moving up and down in elevation. you're losing the oxygen. you're now all the sudden the plane is at 35,000 feet. there's a hole in the wall of the cabin. you're now effectively above mt. everest and oxygen is a real theory. >> a lot of bad options that could have happened separately or at the same time. what is your educated guess, lieutenant. >> lieutenant. that was a long time ago, ronan. but thanks for reminding me. i would say i'm just not seeing the deliberate act yet because primarily we don't have the motive. we don't have somebody saying, i did it. i left a suicide note. i don't think there's going to be anything discriminating on the pc. you have to look hard at the simplest explanation which would
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be mechanical. >> daniel rose, aviation attorney and pilot. thank you so much. that wraps things up for today's edition of "ronan farrow daily." thank you for joining me. ne next up, the reid report with my colleague joy reid. do not go away. it's an excellent show. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers.
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hours. the search is predicated on two satellite photos of debris floating in the indian ocean. the first showing an object about 16 feet in length. the second close to 80 feet in length. the imagery is being called a credible lead both by the australian prime minister this morning who announced the finding before parliament, as well as by officials leading the investigation in malaysia. australia is sending its naval vessel the hms success to investigate the debris after both u.s. and australian search planes could not spot it. while both australian and malaysian officials cautioned that this satellite imagery, now almost a week old, may prove to be fruitless, the malaysian minister gave a very guarded comment today on why this imagery may be different from that provided by the chinese last week. >> the information that we have received from the australian authorities was actually corroborated from other satellites.
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>> nbc news aviation correspondent tom costello joins me now. tom, can you first explain where this data comes from and why it's so important? then explain to us why the imagery is being treated differently than that satellite imagery we got last week which turned out to be a false lead. >> good point. okay. let's go to the telestrator. it is as you mentioned in the south indian ocean. one piece of this debris is said to be about 79 feet. 79 feet long. another piece said to be about 16 feet long. those are two very large pieces. but the 79 foot one in particular, the wingspan of a triple 777 is about 200 feet or so. so it is possible. the tail is about 60 feet. it is possible that one of these images could be something that would come from a plane. but it's only possible. we're not saying it is. the australians believe there's enough to go on here. and their analysis of the satellitta
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