tv NOW With Alex Wagner MSNBC March 20, 2014 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
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the mystery of flight 370. a mystery that could be closer to being solved. stay with us at msnbc for the latest developments. now with alex wagner starts right now. the sun is about to rise over the indian ocean, and search planes are about to take off on the hunt for a break through. this is thursday, march 20th, and this is "now." >> we are following some breaking news. >> new and credible information has come to light. >> there may be parts of the missing malaysia airplane. >> satellite images reveal two large pieces of potential debris. >> 1500 miles southwest of australia. >> possibly linked to malaysian airlines 370. >> it's the biggest lead we have right now. >> these two satellite images. >> this is a massive search area.
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dramatically scaled down. >> difficult part of the world. >> every lead is a hope. >> cautious optimism. maybe the gold mine. >> clearly a disorganization. >> the lack of answers from malaysian officials boiled over. >> i don't think i have stopped shaking since. >> several questions, why, why and how. >> hopes are riding on this snippet of information. >> hopefully the new lead will give us the where piece. >> searchers are preparing to take to the skies, chasing down what is the best lead in the 13 days since malaysia flight 370 first went missing. after being suspended overnight due to lack of light, the air search is going to resume in just under two hours. five military planes are going to be on their way, taking off in shifts from the southwest coast of australia. it takes four hours to fly to the location where they hope to find this, two large objects that may be debris from the
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missing plane. released overnight, the images date back to sunday taken by an australia satellite on the southern edge of the search zone. one of the possible paths it may have taken after the disappearance. the australian prime minister made the dramatic announcement before pearlment, but urged caution. >> i would like to inform the house that new and credible information has come to light in relation to the search for malaysia airlines flight mh-370. the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult. >> this is a lead. it is probably the best lead we have right now, but we need to get there, find them, see them, assess them, to no whether it's really meaningful or not. >> to get there, find them, see them and assess them, a small marnl of sophisticated search vehicles are being deployed.
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aircraft from australia and new zealand. one has flown over the designated area, as low as 100 feet over the sea and found nothing. also the u.s. navy's p-8 poe sigh den, one of the most sophisticated in the world. it looks at both sub mean targets and those on the water. and a c-130 aircraft that's dropped buoys to measure currents. and the ship is days away, tasked with recovering the objects from the water if they are found. add to all of that, a norwegian cargo ship that happened to be in the area. summoned to join the search the old-fashioned way. an all-hands on deck for the crew to look out over the open water. all are revving up full force as dawn approaches halfway around
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the world, and the clock ticks down to the hour when those all important black box pings stop sounding in about 17 days. joining me now is ntsb investigator greg five, and former safety investigate, paul mccarty. the new york times says the circumstances of the crash, that there was in fact a crash, would have a very profound effect on the debris from the degree of dispersion of that debris. from a laymen -- explain to us laymen, when a jet runs out of fuel, if that's in fact what happened here, what traditionally happens? we would assume based on the aerodynamics it would not nose dive. but is it a glide path? tells about that circumstance. >> you're assuming there's nobody directing or flying the
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aircraft. if that assumption is correct, then what you'd be looking at is an airplane that has a speed and going to maintain that speed, going to maintain wings level, is going to continue that speed until it impacts something. tiply out there the water. the wings level, nose high, controlled decent if the automatics were doing it. if it was a human being doing it, then all bets are off. >> right. of course. greg, let me ask you. in terms of what we can expect here, they are -- we went through that long, sort of list of aircraft that are being deployed to find this debris, but it seems apparent that even if they locate a likely crash site, it will take a very long time to actually potentially retrieve anything from the bottom of the sea floor if that is in fact where this plane is. >> alex, there's going to be two parts to this. one, they still have to find this debris that's been spotted
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in satellite photos and actually identify it as aircraft parts. once they do that, and if we assume that it is aircraft parts, then they're going to have to start the search all over again, because those aircraft parts that they find may not be anywhere close to the main debris field we're looking for. that's the main debris field will be where the cockpit data recorder is. this could, again, be a time-consuming length lengthy process right now. >> let me ask you, as a follow up, again from the new york times, from an expert, tim farr rar from the satellite and tell come systems. he said if the debrie is in the predicted area, it was not under active pilot control in the last few hours of flight. the assumption is in the southern ocean, the pilots were incapacitated and it was flying on auto pilot until the fuel ran
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out. how strong of a thesis do you think that is? >> you come up with a story, i'll give you an argument as to why it's not valid. if you had an in-flight fire, and paul could talk about this, but an in-flight fire right after you took off, supposedly disabled the transponder, you would expect it's not going to extinguish itself. it's going to continue to burn and take out the auto pilot and every other system. and wouldn't have flown six or seven hours with an incapacitated crew and an aircraft on fire. we have to think logically. it had ships power to it, or at least enough power to the unit to cause six, seven hours worth of pings. now what we don't know is the motivation of the pilot. we've had martyr pilots before. we've had pilots -- we don't know what he did. we don't know if there was a fight in the cockpit and both
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were incapacitated and the auto pilot continued to flight airplane. we won't know that until we recover the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder. >> go ahead, i'm sorry. >> i was just going to say that the caveat is that we may not get all the information off of that because it has a two hour limit. but we can see off the fdr because it's a 25-hour recorder. we can see what maneuvers the airplane made, what directions it was flying. whether it was flying a perfectly straight line at a steady altitude. we can put together a bit of a storyline. >> that is a good point. the black box recorders only recorded the last 30 minutes of the flight. they now record the last two hours of the flight. i wonder, and you're someone who's worked for the former -- you were a former safety representative for the airline pilots association, whether that
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time for longer haul flights will be increased after this crash. >> well, you know, alex, that's a speculation that we really need -- we need to go a long way before we start talking about the duration of recorders. the bottom line is if you have two hour was recording and no human voices, then you reach certain consequences. we have to remember, though, that this aircraft was headed to the northeast when the communications were discontinued by both the acars and the radio communication. it was headed northeast. and now we're looking at an aircraft that is southerly. and i think greg is exactly right. the consequences of an on-board debilitating fire would negate the possibility of them being incapacitated that way. so either they were intentionally flying it down there, or somebody was intelligenceally flying it down there, or something happened at some point in time to
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incapacitate whoever was on the flight deck. i'm not prepared to say whether it was the pilots. i don't think anybody else is. that's the easy target. but we just don't know what happened. and until -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> let me ask you, paul, on that note, if the plane was in the air for seven hours. someone else on the air this morning was saying, if you are in the air for seven hours and the plane is functional, if you want to the sent a mayday call, you figure out a way to do that in some form or fashion. is that accurate. >> yeah. if you want to send a mayday call and you're up there for seven hours, no question, you can get it figured out. as long as you can get some control over the aircraft. that's a big if. >> right. >> greg fife and paul mccarthy this this is an ongoing investigation, of course. thank you for your time and thoughts. >> thank you. coming up, more on the investigation into malaysian airlines 370.
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and what we can learn from air france 447. luca and andy pastor joins me just ahead. but first, president obama announces new sanctions against russia. and russia bans u.s. officials and law makers from entering russia. michael crowley joins me next on "now." on my journey across amer, i've learned that when you ask someone in texas if they want "big" savings on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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on russian fishes aofficials an who support them. and an executive order that gives him the authority to impose sanctions on sectors of the russian economy. but for the tough talk of consequences, president obama still appeared to be holding out for diplomacy. >> we have emphasized that russia has a path that deescalates the situation and pursues a russian diplomatic solution with the government in kiev with the support of the international community. the russian people need to know, and mr. putin needs to understand, that the ukrainians shouldn't have to choose between the west and russia. we want the ukrainian people to determine their own destiny. that can only happen if russia also recognize the rights of all the ukrainian people to determine their future as free individuals. and as a sovereign nation.
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>> if it was any indication of how unlikely russia is to cooperate, shortly after the announcement of new retaliated by slapping sanctions on top u.s. officials including president obama's top national security adviser ben wroerhodes harry reid, and bob menendez and john mccain. it was mostly met with humor and pride. speaker boehner said he's proud to be included on a list of those willing to stand against putin's aggression. and senator john mccain tweeted i'm proud to be sanctioned by putin. and earlier in the week, he would be proud to make the sanctions list. but he was not on the list this round. but as the sanctions banter continues, the situation on the ground is far more tense. and thousands of russian troops
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are along the ukrainian border. joining me now is michael crowley. thanks for joining us. this morning, the latest round in this back and forth between russia and the u.s., when the russian deputy foreign minister, sergei said we wouldn't like to use these talks as an element of the game of raising the stakes, but if they force us into that, meaning the u.s., we will take retaliatory measures here as well. is that a not so veiled threat from the russians that as far as -- that they will walk away from the bargaining table on things that the u.s. cares about, like, say, the iran nuclear program deal? >> yeah, i think that's exactly what it is. and, you know, we are all consumed and the obama administration is consumed with the ukraine. but the nuclear deal with iran remains the highest foreign
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policy priority. things could get worse and that could change. but they have not taken their eye off the ball. but they need russia to get a strong deal where iran prevented from quickly building a bomb. it's going to be much harder. and i can elaborate, i think russia is going to follow through. >> tell me why you don't. one would think the russians seem to have more leverage. but they have stakes in iran not having a robust and functioning nuclear program as well. >> that's exactly right. i'll preface this as saying that russia is never on the same page as well. they are skeptical that iran has a military part of it. their threatened, and their embassy wasn't taken over like ours was. we are on board with the p-5 plus one talks. we want to be with the u.s. in imposing sanctions and telling
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iran you can't build a bomb. i don't see why the situation in crimea would change that. it's not in the russian strategic interest for iran to have a bomb. no one wants to welcome more members to the nuclear club. you might see proliferation in the middle east. and much closer to russia than us. and they really don't to want see an american military action in iran. putin hates when we go around the world bombing things. >> i think a lot of people hate when we go around the world bombing things. president obama urged congress to act on an aid package to ukraine. it was being held up because republicans in congress wanted to attach less regulatory power with 501 c 4s. unrelated. where do we stand on this? >> there's now movement to try to get the aid package to move.
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it contains the billion dollars in loan guarantees. and speaker pelosi says she wants to move with it, i'm sorry, speaker pelosi. >> still in her own mind, perhaps. and maybe one day again, who knows. continue on. >> it rolls off the tongue somehow. but there's also this issue of imf reforms. that's a huge hangup. probably an obscure issue for a lot of people who aren't in washington, having to do with changes made to the imf. so they tried to bring this package forward a week or two ago and it got hung up. looks like doing it again, and we're going to come back to the question, do the leaders have control over the their flocks, particularly in the house. i don't know. >> that's interesting, do they have control over the flocks. specifically from the republican party. thank you as always. >> thank you.
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administration earlier this year. whether he should have fired bridget time for traffic problems kelly for the lane closures, he said this. >> what happened in that circumstance was unacceptable. not approved by me. would never be approved by me. and the folks who were involved in that, absolutely would have lost their jobs whether they told me the truth or lied about it. but i will tell you as the guy in charge, that when you can't tell on people to tell you the truth in an enterprise this size, you're sunk. >> you're sunk. thus far the hms christie remains in choppy waters, but afloat nonetheless. after the break, what can the 2009 crash and recovery of air france flight 447 tell us about solving the mystery of malaysia flig flight 370? we will look ahead when we are
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one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. the aviation disaster that has drawn the most comparisons so malaysian air flight 370 is the june 2009 crash of air france flight 447. that plane, an air bus with 228 people on board was en route to paris from rio dee jaer in row when it crashed in the middle of the atlantic ocean. debris was found within five days, but two years later, including the black box flight recordersen retrieved from the ocean floor 13,000 feet below the surface. if the debris in the indian ocean turns out to be from the misses plane, oceanographers would begin the slow, pain
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staking process of determining the origin of that floating debris. in the case of the air france flight, current and winds had taken the debris 30 miles away. but they were found within five days of the crash. in the case of 370, at the end of the second week, the search may be more complicated. two weeks after a crash, there is certain to be less debris, and what remains is disbersed and farther from the clues they want in the waves. it could have drifted hundreds of mile. and even then if a likely crash site is determined, then the next phase would involve using robotic submarines to search the ocean floor. like the remus 6000. principal engineer mike warned nbc news that while the capabilities are great, so are the challenges.
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>> so this is the remus 6000 vehicle. about 6,000 meters, about four miles under water. when you're talking about search areas of 5,000 square miles, then you have to realize going in that it's going to take a long time and you're not going to be successful the first day, the second day, or maybe not until the 50th day. >> you have to have patience. >> you have to have patience. >> in other words, if there is conclusive news today, it doesn't mean a conclusion will come any time soon. joining me now is physical oceanographer at uc san diego, luca. thank you for joining us. we are in dire need of experts like you to discuss the situation. an australian expert, an oceanographer said today that if this is debris you couldn't have picked a worst place in the
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world for it to have gone down. do you agree with that assessment? this seem like a deep part of the ocean, 13,000 feet, rough waters, big waves. is it one of the worst places in the world for the plane to have gone down? your assessment? >> probably not the worst. but complicated. and the topography is rough and close to the reach. and, you know, on the good side, the ocean currents are not terribly strong at that location. so -- but, you know, as it was said before, it's going to be a challenge to go back to that site of the crash. >> in terms the debris field, because so many days have elapsed since potentially the initial crash and the investigating teams actually pinpointing something that may be debris, there are estimates that the debrois may have traveled 180, 250 miles from the crash site. does that math seem correct to you? >> it does. so the date in my possession,
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which is not strictly related to the week of the incident, it shows that historically it is possible for debris to travel several hundred miles to the east. so currents in that region are directed to the east, but debris in a week can still travel several hundred miles. so it will pose some challenge, as i said before, to go back to the possible site of the crash. >> let me ask you one more sort of technical question, which is there is an assumption that objects like flotation devices like seat cushions would come to the surface. but boeing 777 uses composite materials. like honey combs that have air trapped inside. from your point of view, how much of plane could we reasonably expect? how thorough is the use of kpos sit materials and how does it affect the debris on the
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surface. >> i think that's a question for more an expert on that. certainly the nature of the debris will change the way they move. in other words if something is submerged entirely, it would be moved by ocean currents. if it's on the surface, it's pushed by the wind. so they will follow different trajectories. that's where we can try to help and make a best estimate to track back the origin of the debris. >> that's an important point. the debris field may change on the flotation and the type of debris. >> that is correct. >> luca, thank you so much for your time. >> my pleasure. >> joining me now is andy pasztor. i have been reading intently all of your scoop on this story. my first question to you so just the big picture about how the malaysian government handled this. the week has a headline says big mistakes made by malaysian government.
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the wall street journal, your paper, says that malaysia says deep sea search ais beyonds it capabili capability. given the reporting you have done, has the malaysian government made serious mistakes? >> there's no doubt they made missteps and mistakes. no country could be prepared for such an unprecedented event. if you say that's true, still, they have made some serious mistakes sometimes in terms of judgment, as some of our stories point out, with holding information, and now coming forward about the trajectory of the aircraft because they weren't sure it was completely accurate. but those kinds of decisions really slowed down the serious search where they're searching now. hopefully investigates will say this is where they should have been searching before. even if that's not the case, it's clear where they were searching was not the right area.
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their mistakes and misjudgment have actually negatively affected the situation. it's not just pr, it's a real effect on the ground and in the water. >> the fact that the search vessels and so many of the international efforts were focused on the east coast of malaysia as opposed to the west and further south could have measurable effect on finding the wreckage. from the communications perspective, what were your thoughts on the actions yesterday when the malaysian government and officials pulled a woman who was demonstrating and protesting on behalf of her family member who was presumably one of the victims or passengers on this flight, it was a violent scene, and the malaysian government launched an inquiry into the way she was treated and dragged out of the room. >> it's not the kind of pr you went. but just as luca explained, the engineering and scientific prospects and difficulties in the search, i think you also
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have this international aspect. this is a multinational search. in air france, it was a much smaller group searching for the wreckage. but there were fierce arguments about where to search. if we are not careful and the participants, they will have the same kind of arguments going forward. even if this turns out to be real debris, where the wreckage is is not easy to decipher. and there will be arguments between parties, and based on the history of this investigation, the friction has not helped at all. >> and one more question, andy, do you think things are getting better? just by virtue of the malaysians admitting they don't have the deep sea search capabilities to troll the ocean floor. that's movement. and they only revealed where it flew ten days later, it doesn't hearten you in terms of
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international communications and communication lines being open. >> that's right. i think the malaysians are trying to improve. they are doing better. but just yesterday, and today, they're starting to talk about how these images that the australians analyzed were just a day old, or very, maybe less than that when they're four days old. and that's just confusion. and it's the fog of war, you have the fog of the investigation. but i think there's some serious questions, still, about their ability to really effectively organize a major unprecedented probe. >> and it is worth noting that that announcement was made by the australian prime minister not by malaysian officials. >> that's correct. >> keep up the great work. thanks for your time. >> you're welcome. >> after the break, supporters of one rafael edward ted cruz are looking to draft him into the 2016 rates.
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doesn't everyone fill one of those out? but the most not necessarily appeal came from a youtube personality who has a series called my drunk kitchen. hey, who's kitchen is not drunk? an online host who typically posts videos like this one. >> well, hello. welcome to my drunk kitchen. why is it foaming? baby -- ♪ ah >> a lot of people watch that youtube channel. can allen from the hangover, the forward for the miami heat, ellen and at drunk chef push the aca over the finishline? here to answer that question are former adviser to president obama and the director at the chicago institute of politics, david axelrod, and nia mallika
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henderson. david, you are a high stakes poker player. make a bet. is the white house going to get to the magic number, six, as in 6 million in the next 11 days? >> yes, i think they will. i think they will. and i think that the mix will be better because of the efforts they're making here. they asked willie sutton why they robbed banks? that's where the money is. they're going where the kids are. it's a smart thing to do. a lot of people got all out of sorts because he did things like between the ferns. >> between two ferns, david. get it right. >> whatever. i'm not a kid. you get me on the -- you get me on the nightly news. >> exactly. >> but they watch -- between the ferns or whatever it's called. but it got like 10 million hits in the first 24 hours and converted tens of thousands of young people to become customers of the exchanges. so i really think this is a smart strategy. it's an aggressive strategy, and i do think it's going to pay
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off. >> nia, let me ask you about between the ferns if you are david, or between two ferns if you are us. we are going to tease you about that relentlessly. i saw that video, and i thought it was uproarous. i can't pronounce it. that said, mike mccurry is quoted in the new york times about it about that performance, we have to worry about the dignity of the presidency. this is clinton's press secretary. there's a limit to how much you can do. this is one of those things it's maybe not so bad if president obama sits down with him, but with a rick perry, which is reason in and of itself to shudder, but for the future presidents of the united states of america, one does wonder if this opens a pandora's box. will it be dismissed if the white house gets to the 6 million figure? >> i think we're in a different
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place right now. it's not just johnny carson right now. it's jimmy fallon doing a crazy putin impression. we used to have the standard in all sorts of ways when you look at what the establishment was, and the presidency, obviously, being a of tpart of that, this president even when running was thinking unconventionally about talking to people. he was on video games advertising for the obama-biden ticket. i don't buy the slippery slope argument. i thought it was clever as well. and we're just in a different time, this is a netflix and youtube era. i don't buy it. but it will be interesting to see the next president, christie or perry or clinton or whoever, how they use this same technology in the shifting landscape. >> david, karl rove, i want to talk about the question of the aca in term was a boon or a liability. karl rove who i tend not to see
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eye to eye with i thought made a fair point in the pages of the journal. he said congressional democrats will continue to be vulnerable on obamacare. they are uncertain whether to embrace the law or advocate amend it don't end it approach. and then this point which i think is an important one, the only thing that could rescue democrats is for republican candidates to appear as the pre-obamacare status quo. where we differ is the word appear. most republicans do in fact advocate for the pre-obamacare status quo. but democrats vhaven't done a good job of showing the public that. do you agree? >> i agree with that. it's the instinct of politicians to run when they see trouble. and there are a lot of democrats, george mitchell once said the only people who believe republican talking points are democratic senators. a lot of democrats buy into this myth that the affordable care act is doomed.
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they should be proud of it. it is an enormous accomplishment and millions and millions are benefitting. and yes, those republicans would go back to the old days. so democrats should embrace it, and should acknowledge that as with any program, they're willing to improve it. if people have ideas to improve it, we should improve it. that's the way every program works. i think karl's right. there's a big trap for republicans if all they do is bang this drum from now until november, it's only going to underscore the fact they don't have any ideas or plans or programs. they are obstructionists. they voted 50 times to repeal this program. and they'll vote for a hundred more times to repeal it if they get control of both houses. this isn't the future americans want. so democrats have to get on the offense on this prosecute republicans for what they do stand for. prosecute them as obstructionists. and embrace the very good elements of the affordable care act that many americans
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appreciate. >> and i don't mean to put too much weight on the florida race, but why didn't al sink do that? why couldn't she put out opponent on the defensive? and where's your plan? this seems or a virus that democrats share. >> well, one thing that i wondered about was, if you repeal the affordable care act, you're also repealing prescription drug benefits for seniors. and the big issue there was the cuts in the medicare advantage program. and they were being advanced as cuts in medicare. which, of course, they are not. and many republicans embrace it in their own budgets and so on. but there are many reasons -- there are many ways that she could have pushed back ton. i will say this about florida '13. it's a motivational issue for republicans. in that district, independent voters overwhelmingly supported her position. the real problem we have, and we
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have talked about this before is motivated democrats. it may be that the affordable care act isn't what motivated democrats. and they should be talking about economic advances, economic reforms that'll make the economy work better for middle class people and people aspiring to become middle class. i think that's the key for democrats. but running away from the affordable care act is not a prescription for success. >> nia, top republicans tell politico, i'm beginning a sentence like that in earnest, that there is a 55% chance that they're going to take back the senate. what is the climate in washington in terms of that? with the news today and this weather forecast? >> i think fear if you're a democrat. when you look at the map, the ability of republicans to expand it out in colorado, in new hampshire. so that democrats are feeling the heat. florida, a special election didn't help, and these forecasts don't help either. >> forecasts all abound, two ferns, three ferns, one fern or
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no ferns. we are glad to have you on. >> whatever. >> we are glad to have you on, david. thank you both for your time. >> take care. >> after the break, as planes prepare to fly off the coast of australia, looking for possible debris from malaysia air flight 370, one of the biggest obstacles could be the weather. more on that coming up next. as a police officer, i've helped many people in the last 23 years, but i needed help in quitting smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke. it actually caught me by surprise. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking, or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental-health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away,
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miles an hour. still winds, but clearer patches. primarily north and east of where the debris field is. in terms of timing and when they'll be able to go out. they're 12 hours ahead of us. when we hit 6:20 here, 6:20 in the morning there. better visibility, but conditions deteriorate toward the end of the weekend and early next week. >> thanks for the update. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. the ed show is next. good evening, welcome to the ed show live from new york. let's get to work. >> we are following some breaking news out of the coast of australia. >> prime minister tony abbott announced what could be a break through. >> whitish objects on or just under the surface of the indian ocean. >> they could have moved any
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