is...is jane. her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... russian forces. and the camera at the scene was ...and a choice forcibly taken down, and you see take 6 tylenol in a day which is 2 aleve for... it there, it is a camera and ...all day relief. hmm. then somebody climbs up, and [bell ring] snatching it down, and it stops. the crisis is going to dominate "roll sound!" "action!" the meeting next week of president obama and the european allies. kristen welker has the latest. the news we have just received is that the chinese ambassador received an image of good afternoon, kristen. the floating object in the >> officials are saying they are monitoring the situation in crimea closely today, and they say that the violence is southern corridor and sending the ships to verify. underscoring the situation >> hello to you all, i'm t.j. there. they are urging russia to use joemz -- t.j. holmes and craig diplomacy. and people are wondering why the is off today. u.s. is looking at this so we have a new satellite image seriously. it is because what is happening and maybe it is a clue to what in ukraine could hurt the united states and the economy, an all happened to flight mh 370. of this as the backdrop of president obama heading to europe to meet with his allies. >> we don't know, but we are >> reporter: president obama hoping against hope that the plane will be found with all of head s

the passengers is what we are heads to the netherlands praying. >> hope beyond hope as the tomorrow for a nuclear security families of the passengers keep summit, but now the more pressing goal is to deal with the escalating crisis in a steady pressure on the ukraine. this week, russia annexed malaysian airlines and the full coverage of the search ahead, and also this. crimea, part of ukraine. >> the president will be that is a scene today in eastern mobilizing the united nations community. >> reporter: and susan rice said that the u.s. could continue the ukraine, and it is another part sanctions if russia continues of the country calling to split the profgations. and join russia. today, at the order of vladimir mean while while, a very tense putin, parts of russians are standoff at an air base in crimea and the troops stand their ground and it is all amassing at the ukrainian border. caught on camera, but only for a >> they are stating that they are planning military exercises and obviously the past practice moment. also, later with nine days s and the gap of what they have said and done, we are watching it with skepticism. to go until the deadline, the white house is trying to convince the young invincibles >> reporter: in russia, to sign up for health insurance. fireworks as they celebrated the return the of crimea, 60 years but we do need to begin with the after the soviet union gave it away. developing story and the the white house says it won't potentially huge development in the investigation of the missing air flight, malaysian air 370. resort to military force, but only more sanctions. >> and further escalation will result in further isolation and an object has been spotted near more cost. the area that the australian and

>> reporter: foreign policy experts warn that further impact ships have been searching since thursday. this is an image sent out by the could have an impact at home. >> if what happens in ukraine is a precurse er r to more moves a chinese broadcast group cctv. this is 75 to 80 miles a wway a instability, the potential for escalation, it is going to affect the united states sooner or later. >> reporter: and from wall from the possible debrief spotted with by the australian street to main street, america authorities on thursday. is keeping an eye on the tension china's image was taken tuesday and australia's was taken in the nations, and those too sunday. let me bring in kerry sanders in young to understand. and while russia nor the washingt military is looking for a fight, but a miscalculation on either washington. and kerry to, simplify for the viewers, we have two separate satellite images that could be side could lead to one, and it of the same object. >> it could be of the same object, and certainly when you could hurt the united states' standing abroad in this look at the size, one is 79 continuing crisis. >> thank you, kristen welker at feet, and the other is 74 feet. take a look, first of all, the white house. and folks, you may wonder again, at the chinese image released by state television in how much this search for the china, and as you look at that missing flight is costing? and then come over here to take well, this is what the u.s. a look and these are the pi military has spent $2.5 million pictures taken by satellite and released by the australianarlead so far. this is the lag time, and this and now the u.s. military is asking chuck hagel to send

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gives a rough image which ultimately they are hoping to tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, lead to this, t.j. are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, >> and how can it possibly lead fatigue, cough, or sores. to that? tell us how it works, and over you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. the years, people have been hearing about the plane crashes and hear about the black boxes all of the time, an please take the next step. talk to your doctor. explain. >> well, first, it is orange. this is humira at work. it is old term to call it the black box, because it is orange. if they can confirm the debris, they will work with the currents and the wave action to trace back to where these might be. this is the black box, but this is really the important part right now, because this is where the so-called pinger is. anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? now, consider this, when the one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day plane crashed if it crashed in the southern ocean and broke into pieces, this black box may helps defend against these digestive issues have gone down like this. with three types of good bacteria. that means that the pinger could i should probably take this. actually be buried in the sand, and so while on a perfect live the regular life. phillips'. condition, if it were like this, give him the calorie-smart is a nutrition of that pinger might be emitting up to 14,000 feet or like this, it beneful healthy weight. with wholesome rice,real chicken,soy, is emitting down into the sand, and into the bed of the ocean, and accents of vitamin rich veggies... plus a taste he loves. beneful healthy weight...from purina.

and that would not be a good picture at all. >> all right. kerry sanders, thank you. so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. we will get an update again from that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. you later in the hour. and we are keeping a close eye why's that? on the story, an meanwhile, the australian search for the missing plane is over for the day, but it will resume in a uh, mark? matter of hours. the officials didn't see anything resembling debris, but go get help! a few small objects and i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped including a wooden pallet, and with our raise your rate cd. this is live in perth, australia if our rate on this cd goes up, yours can too. where the planes have been take thing off to look for the deb s oh that sounds nice. don't feel trapped with the ally raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. debris, and they have been doing it since thursday, and ian, give us the update on the search from there and the area where they are focused. >> well, the planes are take off again about four hours from now, 6:00 local time, and heading to an area which is about 1,500 miles southwest of perth. it is going to take them four hours to get there which gives them two hours in the area before they have to return. and now, this area is a grid of 14,000 square miles in size. and the planes, they fly up and

down it, back p and forth and they rely, and they are increasingly relying on the eyeballs on the binoculars even though they are carrying the sophisticated ray liultimately,e as my husband said, the united states is offering as many resource ises as possible to assist in the search. trying to spot all of the debris please know that we are keeping all of the families and loved that might with be down there, ones of those on this flight in and word of caution, because the our thoughts and in our prayers at this very difficult time. object that we have seen by the chinese satellite was in the >> that is the first lady michelle obama speaking in china earlier today. area that is searched by the new she and her two daughters and zealand military and civilian mother come back from china on aircraft. so they are being cautious in the reception of the chinese we wednesday. up next, we will hear from one of the pilots involved in the search, and just landed in news, but they are going to be sending the planes back down australia. and later how the gop plans there tomorrow, and six aircraft supplemented with the aircraft to make itself more appealing to from china and japan and the uk and also ships. the critical voters before the next election. actually, we're throwing in chinese ships, and an aus trtran a $1,000 fuel reward card. we've never done that. that's why there's never been a better time to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. husband: so it's like two deals in one? warship capable of retrieving

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away from the previous satellite image that we saw, and it seems that this could be the possibly same objects and here is the picture of the chinese image that we saw today, and folks, this is two things here that have absolutely nothing to do with the plane, but do they have the reason in your opinion to at least be hopeful given these satellite images? >> well, we will have to go and look and we are looking at evidence developing day by day and because we don't know much, we will have to explore every option that is reasonable, and certainly, we will have to go look at the objects, and whether they are a part of the plane or not, that is the question. >> and that is the question to pose to you, no way to know, but you are hearing that it is 74 feet, and does that give you the idea that maybe it is or maybe it isn't a part of the plane that could have hit the water and broken up. >> well, something that size could can only be a part of the fuselage which does not generally float that long or a

wi wing. and depending upon how the wing hit and whether it broke open or not, even then, 70 feet is a >> that is predominantly who is lot, and something that size, i'm skeptical right now, but we will see. coing the work, people who are we need to go look at it and go here illegally. >> and it is unbelievable that get it and have it evaluated, people would think about sending but right now, i'm skeptical. >> and also, this thing, and people home who have been here even if we saw it a few days illegally for years. ago, the pictures with were taken several days ago now, with but it could be underwater now? >> yes, absolutely. what we need to the find is the light debris, the seat cushions, and the things that were in the overhead, and the things that float indefinitely will give us the diameter and the dimensions of the debris field and we can take that information as a starting point, and analyze them with the oceanographic institute has sfophisticated models to hep us find the wreckage on the bott bottom. >> and to the hear this is 1,500 miles off of the coast of . >> near the bottom of the hour, australia, and that flight path when you heard they spotted and take look, folks. images and the plane may have

that is the new image and update taken off that way, what did you and that is giving folks hope, think? >> well, when i talked to the and certain hly search evers. this is from a chinese experts they said this is where satellite. new crews are out over the the ntsb and the other investigators said this is the fuel exhaustion point, and this indian ocean off of the coast of australia. is the overlap, and maybe and in that satellite image is a object that is a possible object coincidence tall, but i found it that is the same as spotted by interestin australian satellite earlier in interesting, and we don't have a lot to go with, but when it overlaps, it has my interest, and they are searching in the right areas. >> and this idea of just how small with the pieces and what the week. and now some searchers just returned after searching. they would be and if you are out there looking and again, looking >> we conducted approximately two hours of searching and we with the naked eye, and again, were not able to the locate anything of significance, and talking about the plane of this however, there are other size hitting the water, it is aircraft that are continuing to going to break up in small pieces that seems liket it is search at this time, and impossible given how vast the search area is that it is going hopefully they will have better luck. >> again that is when they got back earlier, and they are done to be looking out of the ship for the day, and about to get deck or the plane and be able to spot those things, and we are the next day of searching here done in a matter of hours when they do get daybreak, and we talk ing and the small pieces here. >> yes, we are, and we are talking about the things like will continue to updrat the story in the afternoon. and it has been over two weeks seat cushions, and not talking about one, but a lot of them. so it is not that they are looking for the single piece of

debris. since family members have had if that large piece comes up, wonderful, a place to start, but any information. much more likely to come up on and now some of the action s the two, five, ten, 100 in a that took place in the briefing relatively small area, seat that happens for the families is now causing the officials to investigate what happened at the cushions, baggage, the overhead meeting. components. in the air france 447, the >> i have received a report from vertical fin is the largest the malaysian high level team and as well as a declaration piece they found but it was a whole lot more small pieces than from the chinese family, and i large. >> and the last thing here, and have asked the ministry of we saw him showing the black box foreign affairs together with the authorities in china to investigate what had happened. and it is called that, but it is note black box anymore, but old language w but the beacon sent we will continue to engage with the families. out for 30 days, and people say, we are working hard with the chinese authorities and the chinese working group the create it is sending out a signal, and a more conducive environment for why can't we hear it now? well with, you can't pick it up the briefings. >> nbc's keir simmons has more anywhere, and you have to be close to it? >> yes, that is the main point on that from kuala lumpur. that we have to locate the main >> yes, t.j., good afternoon. body of the wreckage and the the relatives here are digesting acoustic pinger will help us to the news from the chinese, and frankly, it makes things anxious hone in on where the critical recorders are, and that way we after all of this waiting and the hearing a few days ago from can rekocover them, and that is what we need, because the explanation, and the tale of

malaysian 370 is held in those the news of australia and then not entirely clear what the news meant, and the search, and the recorders. >> again, aviation analyst here for us, captain john cox, and day after day hearing that the debris has not been found. good to have you with us, and we will be talking to you plenty. thank you. very difficult. a lot of anger bursting out at meetings. at one point in beijing, the relatives shouting at malaysia well, some possible gunshots airline officials, because they being heard. tensions are rising outside of an air base in crimea today. feel like they are not being given answers or even allowed to and russian has not officially ask the questions that they want to ask. and meanwhile, we are hearing that some of the insurance taken over there, but there is a companies are making payments standoff. and details of a police now two weeks or more in. this is part of the regulations that they need to have happen officer killed overnight. details of what happened there. those payment, and it is a regulatory thing, and it is no e reflection of what has or has not happened on flight 370, but to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. e husband: so it's like two deals in one? it is a grim reminder, t.j., avo: during the salesperson #2: first ever exactly. volkswagen tdi that we are more than two wees s clean diesel event, get a great deal on a passat tdi, that gets up to 795 highway miles per tank. of since flight 370 disappeared. and get a $1000 dollar fuel reward card. t.j. >> thank you, keir simmons there. and now at the bottom of the it's like two deals in one. hour, more stories making news. hurry in and get a $1,000 fuel reward card michelle obama may be on a and 0.9% apr for 60 months on tdi models. nonpolitical trip in china, but it is not stopping her from

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and success can be measured in a number of ways and not just looking at the election in november, but actually building positive and meaningful relationships. just this past week, the rnc hosted the national news and publishers association at our head quarters with s wits withs the black press, and that is in our community, and so we are having conversations in key stakeholders in the community, and that is working. >> prinls priebus said getting 20% of the african-american votes would be essential if you come up with the right vote. and mitt romney got 27% of the black vote in 2012, and are you update on the developing talk abwho you have on hand to get more than the 7% and get up to the 20%? >> well, we have a number of sto republicans out there who are, story. looking at the screen, this is who are addressing the the details of the story we are community's concerns. that is most important. now, at the end of the day, the

getting from china. this is a chinese satellite ta candidates do matter, but what has spotted and indicates a large floating object that is we are doing at the rnc is to near the location of another build out the infrastructure to object spotted by the australian give these candidates the satellites earlier in the week. this is a photo of the object resources and the tools tweeted out by the chinese available to be most successful so that is what we are focused government, and chinese on the ground game. there are candidates out there, government television, and this and the republicans out there who are talking about the issues that matter in the community, is the image that they are wondering if it could be one of the first real clues as to where and whether it is tim scott and this flight, this malaysian the opportunity agenda, and flight may have gone down. focuses on the jobs training programs and expanding the occupational opportunities or we are keep a close eye on that mike lee who has addressed throughout the hour. and meantime, at this hour, we are tracking another story criminal justice reform or senator rand paul who is talking developing along the about revitalizing the urban russia/ukraine border. new reports that shots were areas that have been impacted by fired at a crimean air base, and the devastating policies of this president. the report is that it has been >> and you bring up rand paul, stormed by russian armored forces and vehicles, and there and he stirs up controversy and you talk about the outreach that you trying to do, and let me play what caused a stir and let is the image that we are showing you here. this appears to be a camera recording outside of the base that was forcibly taken down. you can see it stop the right me ask you if this kind of hurts your ground game. this is what he said in a radio there, and it appears that the interview. soldier did take it down, and >> we have the tailspin of

this is coming as president obama heads to europe for meetings with european allies as culture in the inner-cities in particular of men not working, the allies are looking at the and just generations of men not even thinking of working or learning the value and the troop movement along the border. culture of work. and yesterday, susan rice was asked about what could be read so there is a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. >> to that point, let me bring you back in and we are showing from these movements? it it is not clear what it signals. the video, and he was con the russians have said that they are intending military exercises fronted about that and a man and obviously give n the past saying, hey, that is code word and we knew what you were saying and young black men and race here. these kinds of things, and that practice and the gap between what they have said and done, we are watching it with skepticism. they do happen and he explained >> russian president vladimir putin signed the treaty formally it, and he said that he was inarticulate did paul ryan about annexing crimea to be a portion this. >> right, right. >> and the members of the black caucus came out, and said racial undertones here, and does that russia and from ukraine. and now joining us is a editor hurt the ground game that you are talking about as you are trying to make the inare roads are from the "atlantic" david and then a story like this takes root, and comments like that are heard? >> well, no, when you take what congressman ryan said in the entirety and play the full clip, you will see that he immediately follows it up that it is about rohde.

>> well, there were sanctions responsibility to try to uplift put in, and what john boehner low income can americans and people in society who are hurting by the impacts of these policies. in terms of what we are doing, i said is all theater, but now mean, paul ryan is mind you they are targeting the banks and sales and this is what are the someone who has been very types of sanctions that crippled proacti iran's economy, and the fact proactivity in reaching out to the low income can communities and the minority the communities with the message of empowerment. so what we are doing is actually that the markets are spooked may prove that it is going to work. working across the country, >> and so the sanctions are t.j., and in fact, there is a working in that regard, but not to get putin to move, but any sign that he is going to let up? >> he is not going to let up in recent nbc/"wall street journal" poll that shows that the republican favorability among black americans has increased crimea storming that base this morning is a sign of that, but 33%. and 33% increase is something to the big question is, is he massing these troops to take the write home about, so what we parts of ukraine, and eastern are doing is working. >> all right. ukraine and he agreed to lead a orlando watson, i am sure that we could pull out some more polls for you that show that you european mission into ukraine, have a long way to go, but still, the outreach, and i and so he might be stopping at appreciate having you and good crimea, because he sees the to talk to you, young fellow, price that he is already paying from the economic sanctions, and this is a good sign from a very and we will talk to you down the road. all right. let's bring in the brain trust. chris is a democratic strategist confusing world that we are in a and communications director for john edwards 2008 campaign and

relate crystal wright here and grinning related -- interrelated for us, and the kconservative economically. >> and you say it is a good sign to stop at crimea, but is that enough for the rest of the black chick law, and chris, world, he stopped there and we reaction to what he said, are are all good? >> well, it is a glass half full they making inroads and he has one poll, but we could pull up interpretation, and it is wrong different polls that say what is happening in crimea, but different things, but the 33% the fear is that the only tool that we had was to send in improvement? >> well, you know, it is kind of -- i don't mean to laugh about it, but it is kind of american or european ground funny that the they are talking troops, and the positive sign is that europe needs, and europe and russia need to trade. and that the russians see how about making progress in terms the of reaching out to the minority community and it is effective u.s. sanctions were against iran and we stopped all 201 of the iranian oil sales to 2014. it is a sad statement, and statement of where the republican party is. the in terms of the reality of europe and the rest of the reaching out a good thing? countries an banned them from the international banking of course, because it is good system, and russia sees the threat that it was very for both political parties, but successful against iran and they the republican party starts behind the proverbial see it as a successful tact tick and maybe they fear the same eight-ball, because the policies thing, and he has crimea, but he and the rhetoric continues to hurt them. that is not going to change, and is at least linking, and you saw it in terms of ryan's pretty obvious that he coded the thinking about going further. >> but will the rest of the language and how he reaches out wor to the african-american world, the west accept that, that if he stops there, that is community, and in terms of the an ending we canley with? policies on choice, and when it >> no, and the fact of the cost

of business to borrow money in comes toicies of russia is up in the last few days and this is going to hurt immigration when i comes to hispanics and nice to talk about foreign investment by european the outreach, but i don't see and american companies in russia, and so maybe a lesson anything that is going to be learning here, and wrong that changing in the positions or the lange wang that is going to allow them to translate that crimea is lost, but economic sanctions are helping to the reaching out into actual votes. diffuse the tensions. >> well, chris to, the point, coded language, and i guess >> where will the impact come that, even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, a from where on the regular lot of people don't think that russians on the street, and the republican party has earned that kind of capital with where will the pressure come from? president obama and the west to say, hey, look at what you are minority communities to give the doing to us or the pressure internal saying, hey, mr. putin, benefit of the doubt. debbie wassermann schultz says you need to stop what you are 365 days later, all the doing, because the actions are hurting us? >> it is internal, because one republican party is, is another bank that was sanctioned and they call it a crony bank that year older. tell me about the progress. >> well, when you talk about the worked with his closest aides, and vie sand mastercard are progress and the economic refusing to sort of work with that bank anymore, and that is empowerment, we are on the winning side of policies, and going to impact the average russian, and the real threat is will obama use the authority to representative ryan was telling the truth about many blacks trapped in the inner cities in target russian banks and russian poverty the -- >> and so you do accept that he military sales, and that is was talking about black folks?

going to hurt the whole economy >> no, i accept it, and he there, and he has not done it should have been more specific. yet, but that is the threat if nothsing that he said is racist when 73% of black babies are born out of wedlock. he goes farther into ukraine. that is nothing to be proud of, >> and the last thing and you know this area, and report it well, and everybody wants to throw around the phrase "cold war" and in is the worst since but go back to what chris said. i agree with chris. the republican party is just as white, old, and male as ever. i write about this all of the the cold war, and is this the time. new cold war, and how do you put it in perspective for us, and i'm a black woman, and i'm a conservative and i am just as where we may be headed from the cold war era. >> well, it is different because much an heir to the par i, tty of the economics. russia is supplying 30% of the the principles as anybody. energy needs for europe and we what we have is an optics are all interlinked and this is problem. i love orlando watson and he is the great idea that the u.s. will not go to war with china, a a great conservative, an frankly two years since mitt romney lost the presidential election to buzz we need each other economically, and it is not the cold war and the progress that barack obama because we failed putin is blinking as he faces to what be attractive to the tough economic sanctions is minorities and women and two a good sign that maybe things years later, and -- wait, let me have change and we won't be going to the brink like we did finish, two years later, the in the cold war. >> thank you so much, david, party, and the optics is a real problem and not putting the women or the minorities out there. >> and just on that, i want to bring in dave weigle on that. rohde. and crystal, you vague that he editor from reuters. and now a year after losing should have said that it is her leg at the boston marathon,

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and you know, they are looking at images from satellites so it political writer from from sla. is going to be imprecise. let's talk the about the area millions being spent now on obamacare related tv ads. that they are looking. so is the messaging working now? we did see a bit of an uptick in they are off of the coast of perth southwest under 1,500 miles. the focus has been in this area the young invisibles wanting to sign up. here which is where the are they doing better job with australians thought that based the message now? is it working? on the satellite image that there was indeed something. >> we know on the other side the now, the chinese have found something they believe is in americans prosperity republican groups, people messaging that this area, and again, only 79 people should not even try to miles apart, and so, t.j., right enter the health care exchanges, now, nobody knows what this is, and, two, that the people that and they can't say it is debris have had their health care from the flight 370, but they know that there is something suspect out there, and they are wrecked, they're spending infini trying to lay eyes on it. infinitely more money than the and as you noted that the ian government is trying to right the program. wi families usa, a group that williams said they may take off in a couple more hours, because exists to get good stories about it is turning into a low-tech health care reform, it existed operation right now, and they are literally with six aircraft before this but it was one of their missions they got a and the chinese have added two more no the mix, and literally million dollar grant for. looking out of the windows with they got a million dollar grant their ice and binoculars. to find new stories about the health care law. >> that sounds so impossible, americans' prosperity dropped because of all of the technology about that much in louisiana in out there, kerry, why is that the last month to attack one

democrat. the main tool? the mismatch in messaging between the people who want people to stay away from the just peeking out of the window of a plane? exchanges and the democrats that >> well, there is a p3 as do the want people to sign up is baffling and monumental. >> when you talk about a difference in spending there but chinese, and they have radar what about messaging sfl? that are giving reflections off it's one thing to outspend, it's of the water, but they are not another thing to have a better providing concrete evidence of message. that's to you, dave, still. >> the republican message is you anything floating in this area of the part of the southern indian ocean. so you go low tech and bring the shouldn't sign up, it's a mess, we'll do everything to repeal the parts you don't like. planes down to the lower if you look at polls, a lot of altitude, and you fly slower and people think the law has been you will get eyes on, and the problem is that it is monotonous repealed already, a lot of people don't stand what is new. and you have the reflection of the republican message is still don't sign up and we're going to the sun out on the water, and get rid of it. t.j., i have been out with the they're softening a bit because coast guard for eight-hour migtss out in the gulf of there will be millions of people mexico, and on search and rescue who have health care through the exchanges, through medicare exchanges that they can't say missions, and it is extremely we're going to take at that away difficult to concentrate on what you are looking for the, and from you. when you think that you have they can't even promise the seen something, you say there it people who have lost their is, and then it is not, because

your eyes are in a transof health care they'll restore it. seeing what you think is there they're competing really well in the part of the country that's when it is not. >> and thank you, kerry sanders. three weeks now since flight h holding elections in 2014. >> chris, you might not think 370 went missing, and can you they'll cross the finish line and get the numbers they may want but how big of a win is imagine the tensions of the family members as they were that, if you will, if the briefed in the latest search. and in fact, that has led the president's able to come out and say we reached our target numbers? >> i don't think the president's going to reach his target numbers on obamacare. malaysi he couldn't even reach the first malaysian searchers to find out what has happened. >> i have asked the ministry of foreign affairs together with the authorities in china to de deadline, any of the deadlines. this law has been one delay and one glitch after another. i would argue with david that investigate what had happened. the american people know full well what obamacare is about and we will continue the engage with the families. they understand it and they're we are working hard with chinese authorities and the chinese rejecting it, particularly young working group the create a more people, as you've talked about, conducive environment for the t.j. young people aren't enrolling briefings. >> for more we turn to nbc's because when they weigh the costs of the premiums, they say i'll take the gam bit, but i

keer simmo keir simmons who is in kuala lumpur. >> yes, we are here with the families digesting the news from the authorities, and waiting for think what's interesting is in the news from australia, and david's piece that he wrote is then not entirely clear what that this is really easy for that news meant, and the search, republicans to run against and day after day hearing that democrats on because, remember, the debris has not been found. democrats voted for this lousy law, not one republican voted very difficult. a lot of anger is bursting out at the e meetings, at at one point in beijing, the relatives for it. senator coburn has a plan out shouting at malaysia airline officials, because they feel like they are not given answer, there. >> let me give you the last 30 here, chris. >> the republicans i think revel in the fact they're going to win and they are not allowed the ask the questions that they want to ask. on obamacare. meanwhile, we are hearing that some of the insurance companies my guess is on that issue alone are making payments now two they'll be as successful as they weeks or more in. were in the last presidential election considering it was this is part of the regulatios s about obamacare and the american, the namesake, was the one running. this notion the republicans have that you can win on this issue that they need to happen those belies the fact that the polls payments, and it is a regulatory thing, and it is no reflection on what has or has not happened again and again the american to flight 370, but t.j., it is a grim reminder that we are now people may have issues but what they want is the law to be more than two weeks since flight fixed. that's the focus. 370 disappeared. >> crystal and dave, thank you t.j.? >> yes, thank you, keir simmons,

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go on healthcare.gov. >> and the president's message getting through especially to america's young adults? well, here is a young adult for you, and rihanna cox, and megan chapman still does not have health insurance, and jared is here our consultant here, and also, dan who works out there with the health care plan. and this is what we heard e earlier in the week. >> 3 of 4 young people want health insurance, but the thing that is presenting them from getting the insurance in the past is that they can't afford it, and many people don't know that they can get financial assistance to pay for the plas,s and actually half of the people can find a plan for under $50 a month. >> all right. you have signed up, and how did that work in terms of you for

finding a plan for $50 a month and were you looking for that and what did you find? >> well, it is a little complicated for me, because i am turning 26 next week, and so i have been on my parent's health care up to then, so i did not know how much to expect health care to be. the lowest pricings that i was seeing was about $127 a month. and i ended up with something that was definite ly more expensive than that, because the doctors i wanted to see were only accepting the platinum plan. i would say that the process was certa certainly a little bit frustrating, but i have been watching the news and expecting that. i this think that what was surprising for me is the fact that there is something called the subsidy gap which i was not aware of until after i applied, and that just means that while i'm eligible for assistance in theory, in practice, what i am actually going to be ending up is a subsidy of zero dollars, because there were programs that were available that were less than a percentage of any income. >> so did you spend more than you anticipated or wanted to?

>> well, i definitely ended up spending more than i anticipated, but the truth is that i had never looked for insurance before this, so i didn't know what to expect. >> and megan, let me bring you in, and megan, here it is, the 22nd, and the deadline is com g coming, and why haven't you signed up yet, megan? >> well, i have been looking for health care, and we have looked at the affordable health care website. but because of what we would have to do is that i e would have to go through medicaid before i can sign up to get any kind of help or any kind of financial aid. and the medicaid in our state only covers pregnant women, and so therefore i could not get medicaid via our state. >> and so for you, megan s this a cost issue? you are a student right now. >> yes, i'm unemployed student. >> and unemployed student, and so what is your plan then, and the president is pushing it and

wants the people to ek chit out and you are hearing things of $50 a month or sometimes less than $100 but is this not the reality for you given your circumstances? >> no. we have -- i was in the same boat as the other lady. i didn't find any plans less than $100. >> and jared, let me bring you in for a second here. and we have enrollment rates for young americans, and it did tick up. we saw february about 27% of the overa overall or the young folks between the 18 and 34, but still overall the enrollment numbers show that it is just at about 25%. so listening to the two stories from these two young ladies, are you hearing a lot of this, and is that some of the frustration, and system of the confusionings that you hear one thing and get to the website and see another. is that what is maybe keeping some of the numbers down? >> well, initially, i think that kept the numbers down, and initially, people knew that the site was having problems, but since the site has bounced back, i think that people are actually

going. the traffic has been fairly decent, and the projections from the administration have been actually pretty accurate as well since they got the site back going. i think that the biggest thing still is a literacy issue with most people my age and megan's age. a lot of people don't quite get what is in the plans, and they don't realize that there are subsidies available for most young people who do get insurance through the exchangs.s and you know, that is why groups like ours are trying to do a lot of the education of what is in the bill, and i commend the president. i think that he was smart to go on "on fern or die" or other places, because most of the people my age are not getting the news from the traditional sources. >> and to my point, and the two ladies that we heard from, yes, it drove the traffic to the website, and there are two people sitting here, and they

are not representing all of the young people out there, but these are the stories of seeing and hearing one thing and the president says to go check it out and you are hearing $50/month, and then they get there and it is more confusing than they thought the, and they can't find what they need, and they can't find what they can afford. >> you go first, jared, and then you can jum back in renana. >> well, there is a lot of confusion, no doubt about it. and the truth, too, is that when you are dealing with the younger generation, and more likely not to need it quickly, and they are more likely to wait. the administration was waiting for the last-minute push, and if you look at the projections, they were expecting the uptick in the end, and i know that as a fairly recent college student that if i had a paper due in a month, i did not start it tonight, but two or three days before the deadline. >> and i need to put it up, because a lot of the talk is ability the penalties and the penalty for the minimum, dana, and let me get you in here, the minimum penalty is $95 per

person and family $285, if you do not sign up. but still, if you take the example of the single person earning $30,000 a year, your penalty would be roughly $199, and that is for this year. they do go up every year, but just talking about 2014 for a single person making $30,000, it is about $100 and then the year after that the penalty is $695. and so dana you wrote the piece of losing the millennials that you can't get them to stick to one cause, but tell me about the stories that you are hearing of the two ladies and again, fot representative of everybody, but some typical store is are. >> well, they are typical in one way, and both of to women on the panel are interested in getting health care, and that is going to put them in one bucket of people. there are a lot of the young invincibles who really don't believe that they need coverage. so that is one piece of it.

and the other piece of it is that there can be sticker shock when people get into it. and the other piece is the educational component, and people not realizing what they are eligible for, so you put all of that together. and i think that it has contribute ed contributed to the administration really needs the young people to be about 40% of the overall pool otherwise it becomes too expensive, and it is old and sick, and we all know that is going to cost a lot more for a health insurer, and so presume p presumab presumably, we are going to see the increase in the final days, but it remains to be seen whether young people can be signing up in the numbers that the president needs them to. >> and in your language, dana, you said if you don't reach the 40% number for young people signing up, it could be a day sas ter or doomed, and kay can't remember the language that you used. >> well, certainly in the long run, if the pool is a lot of older and sicker people, then it is just going to cost a fortune,

and ultimately, the government will have to pay more for it, and the insurers don't want to be in the business, and ultimately, you can't run the program that way. and i think that the piece i was writing about is that the young people are the reason that the president got elected, and i'm not sure that a lot of them realize that the president is undone because so many of them have not enrolled in the program. >> and renanda, you wanted to jump back? yes, two things. firstly, what i was looking for was available, but i did not know what it was necessarily going to cost. but i don't blame the health care insurance about that, but i needed to figure that out, but for me, part of kind of echoing what was just said before, i think that part of what is important is giving the idea that as young people we are empowered to help improve the health care system by signing up, so it is continuing the idea of supporting obama, and, you know, wanting to feel like you are part of something bigger and by signing up in health care,

you feel like you are helping the problem. >> and lastly, megan, will you get insurance by the deadline? >> i don't know right now. we are hoping. we are looking for other alternatives at this point, but right now, it is up in the air. >> all right. well, megan chapman and renana fox, and dana milbank and jared morales, thank you, all. you can go to my blog to tell me about your experiences with the affordable health care act. and we are near the top of the hour, and the search crews will be going out in the indian ocean later in the day, and what kind of conditions will they have to deal with and how is that going to impact the search? dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is!

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chinese satellite image here where the chinese government-run television was tweeted out. and we are also told that more ships are headed to the area, and the search will resume atbreak, and now we want to look at the weather that crews can expect when they resume their work. and join g ing us is meteorolog veronica johnson. >> well, a lot of folks ask why it is so hard weather-wise this the area, but it is a turbulent point on the planet, and it is where the atmosphere try to balance out with big temperature differences, and that creates a lot of wind. in is the area off of the coast of southwest australia right now, and we have two areas that we are monitor thing, and the conditions now in the forecast. we will look at it, easterly winds today, and 20 to the 25 miles per hour, but with the sunrise a little bit less than four hours away actually, they will increase the winds.

we have sea swells around 10 feet, and likely to be higher on sunday. and then folks, for monday, tuesday and wednesday of next week, they will face some of the worst conditions probably that they have with the system, and that is because they have a cyclone that is forming just north of australia, and here we go, and you can see the big swirling clouds, and the clouds that are north of the site right now, and the massive swells off of the coast of indonesia, and that is where the cyclone is, and right now, it is headed south. it is high pressure just east of where the investigation area s and it is pulling the clouds towards the area, and it is also going to be making the cyclone come on down, and the good news is that it dissipates on wednesday, and might not get near the site, but one thing for sure, t.j., it is going to be take ing t taking the area, and twirl it around and shake a bottle of water, and if the cyclone is close, it is going to mean wind and turbulent wind for the next few days. >> yes. >> and veronica johnson, so good to see you. >> thank you. >> and thank you so much. and now at this hour, tracking

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be like for searchers to find anything in the water. and now this the -- >> russia! russia! >> a tense day in eastern ukraine as thousands call for the return to mother are russia, and the ukrainian troops are trying to hold their ground in crimea. back in washington, the gop is trying to implement the autopsy from the last election, and we will talk to one of the key people in charge of doing just that. >> and with nine days left before the deadline to sign up for health care, how is the white house selling the signature initiative? first, we are continuing the follow the developing story of the investigation of the malaysia flight 370. 15 days since that jet disappear and maybe a potential lead with what happened to that jet with 239 people on board, and you are looking at the clue that i am talk thing about. a chinese satellite has spotted an object near the area where the australian ships and planes have been searching since

thursday. this is an image tweeted out by cctv, the chinese government-run broadcasting station. this is an image that is about 74 feet. and it is about 79 miles away from debris that was spotted by australian authorities the on thursday. we have to note that china's image is four days old and taken tuesday, and australia's was taken sunday. kerry sanders is live for us in washington. and how helpful is this image for us? and you are holding a prop that could be something important to the investigation. >> indeed. this is ultimately what they are looking for, and the debris and potentially lead ing ing to whee plane may be on the surface, what they are ultimately looking for is this. it is known as the black box even though it is orange. right here is that so-called pinger, and that is going to send out the signal. about 20 days left if that of this thing pinging, because it has a battery in there that is

going to eventually give way, and if it went down into the ocean like this, then that means that it is buried and it is going to be harder. if it went out like this or this, it is going to be easier to find the signal, because it is going the travel up to 14,000 feet. but remember, it is in cold water, and cold water will cause the actual signal to move at less distance. so let me take you over here as i hand off this box, and we will take a look at the map. this is the main area where the search is taking place. okay. but let's remember t.j. that the entire search zone goes like that. it is 3 million square miles, and the analogy would be that it is sort of looking like a lost diamond ring on the beach on the coast of the united states. however, it could be from maine

to florida over the texas and picking up on the california coast and going up the pacific northwest. and it is very, very difficult. and remember, with all of the high-tech technology that they have at their disposal and now that they are working primarily down in this area here, it is eyes on. they are literal ly looking out of the window to see if they can find something floating on the surface. and t.j., i have been out with the u.s. coast guard on missions like that, and it is not easy. ideally, there is a seat cushion floating that is orange and you can see it on the water, but looking for just a sheet skin of the aircraft, it is not easy. they are doing this during daylight hours, and is so we are a few hours now that we will see the aircraft go back out, but with the chinese photograph, and the photograph provided by the satellite from the australian prime minister, the aircraft have gone there, and in all cases, they have returned finding nothing. >> and kerry, one more thing, seeing the map behind you and

you drew that larger circle there, and the smaller one where they are paying closer attention, but are they diverting the resources from the larger circle if you will to try to focus on the where we have been getting the satellite images or just giving the whole area that much attention? >> well, they are diverting the resources down here, and all operating out of perth p,, and have the aus trtralian militarye here with the aircraft, and new zealand has been here, and we have heading from china, and we have some 7-plus naval ships and two aleutian aircraft that are part of the chinese effort. those aircraft have arrive d in perth, and they will be taking off in several hours, and again, this is for looking out the window, flying somewhere between 3,000 feet down to 500 feet to see if they can spot something and say, there it is. and then ideally, if somebody sees something, then they direct one of the vessels over there,

and you also have some merchant cargo ships in the area that have volunteered to help so they can lay eyes on it, and remember, at the end of the day, what those two satellite photograph images may reveal is the garbage that floats out in the ocean, and sometimes the cargo containers get washed over, and not retrieved and they break apart and may be as simple as garbage floating out in the ocean, and nothing to do with the flight 370. >> thank you, kerry sanders. the flights will resume in hours to search. and today, there was nothing but a wooden pallet and some clumps of seaweed. and ian williams is live in perth where the australian planes have been take thing off to look for the debris since thursday. and ian, hello the you once again. and where are they headed? where are they focusing the attention when they start to search in a few hours? >> well, hello, t.j., the planes will be flying out again under

just three hours from now in what kerry describes as the golden ring. now it will be dramatically can enhanced today. in addition to the six aircraft from australia and new zealand, there is also going to be aircraft from china and japan. also, a growing fleet of ships from china and also from australia including an australian warship which is capable of hauling the debris out of the water, and of course, all they need to do thou is to actually find some. today, as you mentioned, they did come across or one of the aircrafts thought it saw debris in the water which included a wooden pallet, and it alerted one of the military aircraft which had more sophisticated equipment on board, and they went to take a look, and it turn theed out to be seaweed. now what they did have to have their advantage today was good weather. it was flat and calm, and the winds were not too high, but the warnings that we are getting is that the bad weather is rolling

in again, and a tropical cyclone coming down from indonesia and that is not going to help the efforts, even though the efforts will be dramatically stepped up. and obviously, encouraged by this latest satellite image from china, t. jchj. >> and what is the coordination like? we understand, again, chinese sending some resources there, but is this a coordinated effort or are all of the country now, and i should say aus trtralia a china in particular, kind of doing their own thing? >> well, australia has been taking the lead in this. although, you do detect a little bit of frustration on the part of china. that frustration is primarily playing out in sort of a criticism towards the malaysian efforts in this. we have got a lot of chinese assets now coming to the area, and china will expect to play a far bigger role, and what is not clear is precisely how that will be coordinated with the australians who have been playing the lead role till now,

and of course, this latest image is the chinese image and they were categorical when it was announced today that chinese ships would be heading to the area to check it out. and interestingly, the chinese were more cautious in how they greeted the chinese announcement pointing out that the coordinates of the piece of debris shown in the chinese picture was smack in the middle of a area that they had combed extensively today, but that said, it is a huge area, and vast and remote, and they will be heading back there tomorrow. this whole operation is substantially enhanced, t.j. >> all right. eian williams for us in perth. thank you so much. i want to bring in from satellite, kathleen, who is a scientist with the earth and space research institute, and specializes in currents, and with me in studio, tim stevens who is a diver, and tim's team just recovered a world war i

submarine in fact. and kathleen, let me start with you, the images, and this object, and possible debris or drifted some 75 to 80 miles, and give en what you know about the ocean in that part of the world, does that sound about right to you and sound possible to you that an object would have drifted that far in a matter of days? >> it doesn't, up fortunately. it is not really impossible they are two different pieces, but over the last two weeks, the southward flow if anything is going to be going east. so going south and west, any flow that sort of has that potential to drift something two days south and west would only be quite weak. maybe two to five miles a day at most. >> oh, wow. >> so over two days, 75 miles south and with wethe west, it i not physically possible to

connect the two. >> and again, with the currents down in that part of the ocean, is it possible that it will be shifting dramatically or does it stay in that much type of current there? is. >> well, the currents do move, but they are slower moving than the winds. so winds drastically change, and winds could have pushed and i was looking at the currents mostly, but if you look at the winds, they are every hour they change. so it is possible if it was blown by the wind, 75 miles still seems quite unrealistic, but it could have been blown southwest by winds, but the currents revolve on the weekly or the monthly time skills in order to do a rapid shift of change of direction. because right now sh, and alwayn that area, you are in this antarctic polar circuit which is flowing to the east, and there is always some every surface debris in that area is going to

be slowly going east. >> and tim, you are a deep water diver, and when car rer sanders was talking there how h wide the area is and talking about a diamond ring in how many millions of square miles and you looked and shook your head and had a grin on your face. >> yes, the diamond ring is moving, and it is not just looking for the diamond ring, but the diamond ring is on some kind of a path. and it cuts the odds down even mo more. >> and you are trying to the predict where the diamond ring is going, and also, you don't know where the diamond ring went into the water. >> yes, that is kathleen's area where she is the mathematician, and modeling but she can't do the work without the data the. she needs a baseline piece to start. >> that is right. >> and they need to find the first clue no matter where it is, a beach on the other side of the world, and they can take it to the plug it to the something and find a route back. >> when would a guy like you be be called in? >> i are will be called or if the i was running the operation, i would be called to look for it

underwater. the techniques that they are using now, and i heard they are bringing in the hydrophones in, and to me, that means that they -- that is a seven-mile bubble on the acoustic pinger on the black box and that is not a big area. so the only thing that i can think of bringing that in that early or talking about bringing that in early is that the big section might have been the tail, or assumed that it is the tail section and if it is the acoustic pingers may pick it up seven miles drifting, and it is a long shot, but probably why they were doing it, because acoustic pingers are way too early. you have to narrow it down before you go listening. >> and okay, kathleen, now if they gave you a location where this plane went down two weeks ago and this is fully two weeks ago and you had that location, and your expertise, still, how difficult or it is even possible

to try to figure out what those currents and winds were doing over the past two weeks to try to predict where the debris might be and where the plane might be. >> yeah, it is -- it is near impossible. the area that it covers, if you go back in time from assuming that what they saw on the satellite images from a couple of days ago, and assuming that was an actual piece of the airplane, i have tracked it back using the currents and the winds that exist with a variety of wind conditions, and you, because it is in the an arctic polar circle, it could have traveled hundreds of miles over that time, and you are covering this area hundreds of miles long, and as well as north and south tens of miles. and that is just assuming that it is the piece that the you have. and that is assuming that it stays on the surface as well. if we do recover something, we don't know where other pieces went down. and then where in the water column it is. it is going to the travel at

different speeds. slower as you go deeper at least. >> it is important the note as tim, and kathleen just did, they are focusing here, because this is really some of the best leads they have had. >> and only lead that you have. >> in an investigation that has no leads and we may be focused on something that has nothing to do with the plane. >> possibly. >> and what technology, and we talk so much about the technology, and what do you do in this part of the world? two miles, three miles deep? >> well, it is all do-able, but it is just covering the ground and the cost to do it. it is not like eariei ear ariel aireal searching. it is like me taking a picture of you two the miles away, and

you are in the picture, but i can't see it. okay. if i take a picture of you here, you are in the picture, and so i have to send that vehicle or that sonar down closer to within 30 meters of the bottom and fly it around. so i either drag it with a cable, and 9,000 or 14,000 feet deep, you have to put three or four times the cable out, and the cable weighs is heavy, and in those seas, it is up and down, and the data, and it is -- so what we do is to send autonomous vehicles now, and state-of-the-art coming along in the last ten years. and it is drones. and they send the drones down the search, but it is 12 gnat cal miles or 12 square miles a day is all you can get. >> still. oceanographer kathleen dohan and deep water diver tim taylor. thank you both for your expertise. and now, president obama is

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again, the developing story that we are keeping an eye on, and look at that, folks, that is the big development of the malaysian flight 370 that has be been missing. this is tweeted out by chinese government tv which shows debris that could be floating near where the australian satellites spotted possible debris earlier in the week. they didn't find anything found today, and they have suspended the search for today. all they found was a palette and a clump of seaweed.

and new reports that shots were fired at a ukrainian air force base in crimea, and it with was reportedly stormed by