building. what are the alternatives to tar sands, to fracking, to deepwater drilling? that's going all in in energy efficiencies. >> wait until we start exporting coal which there's a huge move to do. kate sinding, and oil trader dan dicker. that's "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" begins on the nose. >> you hit it much better than you ever hit it before. >> i couldn't resist patting myself on the back. >> the shame that rains down on me as i blow through 10:00 every night. >> i know that shame. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. when you're the president of the united states, there is no such thing as an aside. right? going off script, making even one little off the cuff remark can be a dangerous thing if you're the president of the united states. in the sense that you're basically guaranteed that somebody, somewhere in the world, is going to take what you said very seriously. even if it was your mildest, most sarcastic parenthetical phrase. case in point. president obama addressing a group of students in washington

wisconsin in january. watch. >> a lot of young people no longer see the trades and skilled manufacturing as a viable career, but i promise you, folks can make a lot more potentially with skilled manufacturing or trades than they might with an art history degree. >> i'm just going to cut in here for a second to say it is painfully obvious that the president knew immediately, as soon as he said that, that he had just made america's art historians very angry. and he right away tried to fix it. >> folks can make a lot more potentially with skilled manufacturing or trades than they might with an art history degree. now, nothing wrong with an art history degree. i love art history. i don't want to get a bunch of e-mails from everybody. i'm just saying you can make a really good living and have a

great career without getting a four-year college education as long as you get the skills and the training that you need. >> you can see him react knowing what he's done, but indeed, as soon as president obama made that very self-conscious joke about art history majors and he cringed as soon as he said it and tried to walk it back immediately, indeed, the reason he cringes, he knew what was about to happen would in fact happen. he felt the swift raft of the art historians and people who love them as soon as he got off the podium. the college art association tweeted "president obama dissed art history today." "art history majors now just a punch line for the president." it's president obama versus the gentlest foes you can imagine. one of those gentle foes is professor ann collins johns who teaches late medieval and art at the university of texas at ut austin.

after the president made the remarks in waukesha, wisconsin, this professor at ut e-mailed the white house to tell president obama what she thought about his comments. she said she wasn't writing to express her outrage, she just wanted to explain to president obama what it is that art historians do very well. how art history teaches students how to think and read and write critically and that those are crucial skills both for life and also for the modern job market. well, the professor clicked submit on her message. she sent it from the white house web page. and then a few weeks later, she got an unexpected response. look. handwritten letter. "ann", the president writes, "let me apologize for my off-the-cuff remarks. art history was one of my favorite subjects in high school and helped me take in a great deal of joy in my life i might otherwise have missed. please pass on my apology for the glib remark to the entire department. sincerely, barack obama."

professor collins johns seems to have accepted the president's apology and said she felt guilty for having wasted his time. if president obama had yet to redeem himself in the eyes of any other art historians who were carrying a grudge about that joke in january in wisconsin, president obama may have gone some distance toward full redemption with the art historians of the world today. when he visited a renowned museum of dutch art in amsterdam, the rijksmuseum. president gave a press conference today standing in front of this work of art by rembrandt. it's called "the night watch." it was painted in 1642. it's the museum's signature piece. it's just lovely to look at. just like that. but when you see it in context, oh, when you see it in context, instead of just in a book or otherwise sort of disembodied the way we just showed it a second ago, when you actually

see the size of it, you see how freaking impressive it actually is. i mean, part of the impact of this piece, right, is that it is enormous. it's 12 feet by more than 14 feet. and it served today as the gigantic and impressive backdrop for the president's press conference today in amsterdam. president obama is in the netherlands today officially for a long planned nuclear security summit. this is the third nuclear security summit of its kind that's happened since he has been president. the goal of these summits is to bring together world leaders, 53 world leaders gathered in the hague today. to agree to secure loose nuclear material around the world. the idea is to cut off access to nuclear material from terrorists or terrorist groups or anybody else who might try to buy it in the black market. this idea, this issue as a priority as something that president of the united states should be devoting his time to, this is something that president obama promised when he was a candidate and started working on as soon as he was elected. it was a signature issue of his

when he was in the united states senate. the first loose nukes summit was held in 2010 in washington. the second one was held in 2012 in south korea. these gatherings happen every two years. this one right now, again, is happening in the netherlands. the next one is planned for 2016 and that will be back in washington. today both belgium and italy announced that they had completed what they called significant removal of highly enriched uranium and plutonium from within their borders. that's the thing that gets announced at these summits and agreed to. thanks to this priority of the president, these meetings and all these summits and the work that's happened in between them in order to make sure that these countries don't have nuclear material lying around where anybody can get to it, thanks to this work and this priority, in just the last five years, the number of states that have nuclear weapons material that could fuel a terrorist bomb has shrunk by more than a third. it shrunk from 38 countries to 25 countries. so that work, that priority of the president's, that was the initial reason that president

obama was in the netherlands today standing in front of that giant magnificent rembrandt giving a press conference alongside the dutch prime minister. frankly, as important as that work is and as important as it is to our president, right now overshadowing that work and all of those accomplishments of these nuclear security summits thus far and all the work that is yet to be done on the nuclear security issue, overshadowing all of that right now is, of course, what's going on with russia. and russia taking over a part of ukraine. the dutch prime minister today called russia's annexation of crimea a flagrant breach of international law. he said his government condemned russia's actions in the strongest possible terms. and then president obama echoed those comments. >> europe and america are united in our support of the ukrainian government and the ukrainian people. we're united in imposing a cost on russia for its actions so far. i'll be meeting with my fellow g-7 leaders later today, and

we'll continue to coordinate closely with the netherlands and our european partners as we go forward. >> did you catch what he said there? "i will be meeting with my fellow g-7 leaders today." isn't that supposed to be g-8? used to be. the g-7 used to be the group of the world's eight leading industrialized nations, and it was called the g-8 group of 8. the eighth member of that group, the most recent addition, was russia. here's all of them. there's putin circled there. this is all those, the g-8 leaders at the g-8 meeting last year. after what russia just did in ukraine, the white house said that president obama's goal today in this overseas trip meeting with the world leaders was basically to get russia kicked out of the g-8, get them kicked out of the exclusive group as punishment for having invaded another sovereign country.

late this afternoon, that is exactly what happened. the g-8 became the g-7 again. russia is out. the planned g-8 summit in sochi, in russia where they had the olympics is going to be the june g-7 summit in brussels. russia just lost it and russia is not invited to the other meeting. expelling russia from the g-8, it says, "we the leaders of canada, france, germany, italy, japan, the united kingdom and the united states reaffirm our support for ukraine's sovereignty. we strongly condemn russia's illegal attempt to annex crimea. we remain ready to intensify actions including coordinated sectoral sanctions that will be an increasingly significant impact on the russian economy. we will not participate in the planned sochi summit." then this is interesting. crucially "we have decided that g-7," remember it's not the g-8 anymore, "g-7 energy ministers will also meet now to discuss ways to strengthen our collective energy security." hmm. russia's foreign minister responded to that statement today, russia being kicked out of the g-8 by basically refusing

to leave any club that would not have his country. he rejected the notion of russia being expelled from the g-8. he said "because the g-8 is an informal group, really nobody can be expelled from it. in other words, russia's decided that this didn't really happen. we were never really part of it, anyway. it doesn't even really exist. despite their effort, though, to laugh this all off, it's clear sanctions focused on punishing the russian economy and concerted push to rid g-8 countries and european countries of their dependence on russian oil, these are serious and potentially scary threats from russia's perspective. as much as this conflict is about anything, it is about energy. russia is the number two net exporter of oil in the world. second only to saudi arabia. a big chunk of those exports go to europe, to germany, to the netherlands, to italy. germany in particular gets more than a third of their oil and

natural gas from russia. but even despite that dependence on russian oil, the head of the german government now says she supports an escalation of sanctions against the country that provides her country with a third of its energy supply. meanwhile, in the disputed territory of crimea, the ukrainian government, reporting today that the ukrainian government cut off the electricity supply to crimea. crimea is not connected by land to russia. it only connects to mainland ukraine by a tiny spit of land and across that tiny spit of land is how they get a lot of their water and most of their electricity. they've been experiencing widespread power outages today. an escalation of this conflict that involves countries cutting off other countries from oil and gas, that one a big deal, would have big economic consequences, not in the immediate effect but in terms of the knock-on effect. it's something european leaders seem to be preparing for. also if vladimir putin decides to invade another sovereign country, decides to invade more of ukraine, he said he does not intend to because said quite a few things in recent days that haven't ended up being true. if he refuses to un-occupy the

one he's already invaded, are the united states and other world leaders willing to do anything further in terms of continuing to put pressure on russia's economy? would there be an effort to sanction russian oil and gas companies? will there be an international effort to stop russian oil and gas companies from being able to sell around the world? so far, president obama has announced targeted sanctions and travel bans against 27 individuals and run russian bank. as president, he can take unilateral action that way. he can issue sanctions, punish russia without the help of congress. in order to spend money on this conflict, in order to aid, for example, the fledgling ukrainian government, to show america's support for ukraine financially, president obama can't do that side of it on his own. for that he needs congress. and tonight congress did act. the u.s. senate voted overwhelmingly tonight to begin the process to advance to billion dollar package of aid to

ukraine. what happens next here? what is the next step in this conflict economically? what is the president willing to do? how far is congress willing to go in order to help him? joining us now is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for the "huffington post." thank you very much for being here. nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> i know you were on capitol hill today when the senate voted on advancing that bill about ukraine. what struck you as significant about the vote or the way it went down today? >> well, the republicans who voted to move forward pretty universally did not express their support for voting on final passage of the bill. in other words, it looks like an overwhelming victory. that doesn't mean in a couple days when it comes up that it's going to cruise through. they're quite opposed to a provision that the white house wants in there. basically it would allow the $63 billion pool of money to be moved from an emergency kind of crisis fund into the general fund.

we agreed to do this four years ago but never implemented it because we agree to do things all the time we don't implement because we have this thing called the united states senate. so they're saying that this is not the right time to do it. now, there has never been a right time to do it over the past four years. the argument is that the imf, in order to be effective in ukraine and for our billion dollars to be effective in ukraine, needs this flexibility to have access to this $63 billion. but the tea party hates anything that smacks of foreigners, and so it is themed to be dead on arrival over on the house side. so the entire thing is getting caught up over this imf reform provision. >> so we're seeing, i mean, increasingly -- i don't want to call it necessarily belligerent, but at least increasingly sharply worded criticisms not just of russia but after the west, the united states' inability to push vladimir putin around. conservative critique of what's happening now with russia is the

united states isn't doing enough. but you're saying that the reason we might not be able to do anything through congress is because of objections to an accounting change with the imf rules? >> that's right. it gets even more bizarre than that. a lot of the republicans are saying, okay, look, we will cave on this imf thing if you give us a provision on the irs that says the irs has to back off its investigation of dark money groups. in other words, this is an international situation that we have going on. russian troops are literally marching around in places the united states and europe don't want them marching around. and congress is hung up over stopping the irs from enforcing the law on these dark money groups. the law says these 501c4s cannot spend this amount of money on political activity and republicans are worried that the irs is going to enforce the law. >> so the -- in the senate, at least so far, the objection is,

no, an arcane accounting change at the international monetary fund is enough to stop us from doing anything about what we keep calling world war iii and comparing to hitler? or take your choice, the other option is that if unless you leave the koch brothers and karl rove alone, we will not do anything about something we're calling world war iii and akin to hitler. >> it's quite a remarkable state of affairs. i mean -- >> i almost can't believe that this is real. i mean, it's part of the reason i wanted to talk to you because i know you saw it happen. i can't actually believe this is what's going on. i'm sorry. >> yeah, and most people don't -- most of the republicans don't want to say out loud that this is the situation. talk to ted cruz and he said, absolutely, this is a terrible thing if you allow the, you know, this imf provision to go through. he went so far as to say it would strengthen russia's hand within the imf.

ted cruz is a smart person. he, you know, he knows that russia has basically zero control over what the imf is going to do with ukraine. that's the kind of thing he'll say, and i bet that's the kind of thing you would see get picked up by tea party groups and they'll start e-mailing it around to each other saying, look, you know, obama is trying to surrender the imf to russia. we can't allow this to happen. and so this is the situation we're in. we have wreak breaking /* /- news out of australia. let's listen p. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you all for keeping everybody informed. as to what is going on with what is most important event in terms of aviation and maritime safety. look, today i'm here to speak to the crews and the maintainers of these magnificent aircraft that

are behind me. i want to talk the opportunity to publicly thank all of the crews and all of the teams that keep these planes flying. as you know, it is a four-hour trip down there, two hours on station and four hours home. this is an extremely remote part of the world. you know, 3,500 meters deep. 2,500 kilometers from perth. it's a mass after logistical exercise. there are two japanese p3. a p8 from the united states. two from china. and who else have i missed? a p3 coming from korea with a c138 this afternoon. now i want to take the opportunity to thank all of those countries for their assistance and their commitment i've just had lunch with with the chinese and japanese teams. they are working long hours to

keep their aircraft flying. keep their teams up in enthusiasm. it's been a long hard road two weeks in. we have hma going 120 kilometers to the south, for those who understand sea sites, horrendous conditions. this is a major operation. can i say that the prime minister today, that -- we will welcome them to give them closure in what has been an extreme accident for them. this is an amazing example of international cooperation, particularly between militaries. we are very pleased to host the chinese, japanese, koreans, new zealanders and americans to western australia. >> is there a special facility o for families to be flown over or

taken by sea to the crash area? >> i think that will need to be done very carefully. this is a major operation. this is one of the most remote parts of our planet. we want to get it right. assist our families and friends to have closure. but let's talk about that when we know how many are coming and when they are arriving. >> is this clearly now a case of be looking for survivors but looking for debris and for those black boxes? >> let's be clear. to this point in time, very have not successfully identified or recovered any debris from the aircraft in question. >> senator -- >> can we confirm this is the place the plane crashed? >> -- in his view the plane in the -- do you share that -- >> i think if we're going to go on data and information giving

us a hint as to what has actually happened, that's all we've got to go on. i think the imagery from the satellite, generating on an hourly basis, the performance of the aircraft, i think is all we've got to go on. i think we've got to rely on that and that's what we've been doing. >> hang on. this is lady over here would like to ask a question. >> thank you very much. would you say you are confident with the prime minister's assessment that the fate of flight 370 ended in the indian ocean, are you confident in that? >> i am confident in that because that's all we have at this time. >> so you're not surprised that they made the call last night, sending messages to the family? >> i'm not surprised with anything about this, this is a mystery and until we recover and positively identify a piece of he can brie, everything is virtually speculation. >> to that point yesterday, what the situation? >> when you've got to suspend

operations for 24 hours, with these beautiful aircraft behind me, it is unsafe to fly down there. remember, this part of the world, this southern ocean, has shipwrecked many, many in our history in australia. it is rough. there are 20, 30, it is very dangerous, even for big ships. >> -- support the conclusion that the -- >> i will hand over in a minute to vice he he he chief of defense who will tell that you everything that we have, you know about. and that we are doing everything we can to first of all, make a positive identification on a piece of debris. that will mean we are on the right track. now that's not going to happen, i wouldn't think, for at left another 2 4 hours. because we've today redeploy, given the bad weather.4 hours. because we've today redeploy, given the bad weather.

>> can you provide anything from the monitoring and the information provided. >> i can't provide any more. you have seen all of the information that's out there. >> i probably wasn't kbauz i was probably traveling somewhere and you know, on the way back to western australia. the prime minister, i'm sure, has been informed. as when events have come to pass and they've been confirmed. >> do you understand success to be confident that they are close to fr what we've seen in the air yesterday. >> it is easy to speculate what is close. close in this part of the world could be several hundred kilometers. just remember we are looking in an aircraft from victoria and perth and western australia. that what we are doing. if you want to put it in a description,er with looking for in the area of victoria in western australia.

this deployment you can see behind me and all of the aircraft i've name said probably one of the largest efforts you will ever see in terms of maritime surveillance and joint operationes from china, australia, japan, new zealand, united states, korea. >> how many days are left for that beacon to tell us where the black boxes are. >> we cannot put pilots and crews at risk. we can't put ships company at risk p. we just have to deal with this location as best we can in terms of its weather and -- >> sir, have -- >> all of the information in the -- >> you know, because objects have been found, but yet to be confirmed. >> as i say, the turning point for us, i think, will be when we pull some piece of debris from the surface of the ocean and identified as being part of the aircraft. >> do you have any more information on the support that will be providing for families --

>> at this stage, i don't. but bear in mind, the prime minister is very, very fixed on assisting malaysia, a very good friend of australia, in dealing with the families of the crew and passengers on board this aircraft. we'll do what we can within reason. >> are you prepared to take this plane, and is there a chance that you would find any wreckage. >> i'm going to hand over to vice chief of staff, who is with the royal australian air force. we will tell but some of those logistics. >> if i can put the analogy and what we got out there for the moment, we are not searching for a needle in the hay stack, we are still trying to define where the hay stack is. that's to put it in context. you see a multinational effort going on. it is difficult for success with the weather conditions, to be able to find small bilts of debris that is washing around in the southern indian ocean at the

moment. as the minister said for safety concerns today, we had to pull the assets off the search and put success to the south. but we are hoping for good weather in coming days where the search effort will be joined by a number of chinese ships. we will have the korean p3. so we will have more aircraft, more ships in the area and we will refine the search. >> i this i it is becoming more recovery operation than it was before. there are new australian assets, including the ocean shield, i understand, heading out there. what is it role? how can it help? what can it do? >> the ocean shield, coming from sydney, as would you appreciate, it takes time to come down and around into the search area. as we further refine the search area that we might be able to go out and look for the black boxes. >> in terms of the search --

>> come down and around into the area, the aim for her will be working to put specialist equipment on board so that as we further refine the search area that we might be able to go out and look for the black boxes. >> has there been a 100% collaboration? one specific umbrella? >> actually, the collaboration has been very, very good for the nations. to start of it, there's a lot of cooperation between the u.s., uk and australia. and analyzing the satellite imagery, in fact the uk part of the team that first put us into the location. that is define bid more imagery, china and imagery that everyone gets a chance to look at. from the aircraft and the ships, there's a lot of cooperation going on at the moment. it is relatively small operation. but it is growing by the day. and we could that in support of

the league nation in australia. the question is is information being passed to australia, the answer is yes. >> maybe there is still doubt that they go down -- >> as the minister said, the best information that we have and continue to refine any information that comes in, as i understand it, i haven't seen the report but the information from the british overnight to malaysians seems to indicate more assure that it went down in southern indian ocean. but as you imagine, more information. people get the clans to look at more and more data. we continue to refine the search area. we don't have time for that. but it is initially finding the wreckage and don't get an indication of where you're searching. >> how long do you think the search will be and how much impact is this going to have on

the debris. >> very good at the current. and the movement of the water, so they will keep a very good trek on where the current debris field should be as to where the clears will be able to go back in. at the moment, visible by aircraft and then we have to pinpoint and get ships in to pick up. it could be any debris from anywhere around the world p. we've got to make sure anything we pick up we can identify as being wreckage. then we can further refine the search area. >> [ inaudible ] >> i won't go into those details on the search again. that's highly complex and that will take longer than what we have today to search. >> so the chinese -- >> making malaysia, that their plane crashed into the indian ocean. >> all of the information is passed between malaysia,

australia and all countries participating in the search. i'm comfortable that all of the information is getting to those people that need it to refine the search area. thank you very much. can i just thank all of the nations that have participated in this. >> we have been listening to officials in australia regarding the search. we have malaysian officiales with the airline there speaking. take a listen. >> there is new evidence regarding the disappearance of malaysian flight 370 on the 8 of march. on this evidence, the message was that, we must now accept the painful reality that the aircraft is now lost and that none of the passengers or crew on board survived.

this is a sad day for all of us at the air lanes. while not entirely unexpected after an intensive multinational search across 2 4 million square mile radius. this news is definiting for t de families of those on board. they have been waiting two weeks for the smallest of hope or positive news about their loved ones. this is an unprecedented event. requiring an unprecedented response. the investigation on the way may yet prove to be even longer and

more complex than it has been since march 8. but we will continue to support the families as we have done throughout. and to support the authorities as the search will definitely continues. i will ask our chief executive to provide you with details of our support of the families. >> thank you. i stand before you today. also as a brother and as a son.

my heart breaks to think of the unimaginable things. there are no words which can reach that -- >> everyone in this airlines family is praying for the 239 souls on the 370. and the loved ones on this dark day. we extend our prayers and sincere -- we all feel the sorrow and pain. sorrow, for all those who were on flight 370 on saturday, 8 of march, will not see their families again. and those families will now have to live, have to live on without their loved ones.

it must be remembered that -- let me be very clear on the events of yesterday evening. our vision last night was to be clear that the incredibly short amount of time available us to and families heard the tragic news before you walked in, wherever humanly possible, we did so in person with the families. using as a last resort of insuring fully that nearly 1,000 family members heard the news from us. and not from the media.

ever since the disappearance of flight 370, this airline's focus has been to comfort and support the families of those involved. and also to support the multinational search effort. we will continue to do this and we will also continue to support the work of investigating authorities in the southern indian ocean. like everyone else, we are waiting for news from those authorities. we know that while there has been an increasing number of apparent leads, definitely identification of any piece of debris -- but after 17 days, the

announcement made last night and talk with the families, reality is that we must face and we now must attempt, and as we receive the approval from investigating authorities, arraignment will be made to bring families if they so wish. until that time, we will continue to support the investigation. and may i expect my thanks to the mission government and all those involved in this truly world search effort. in the meantime, the airlines main focus will be the same it has been from the outset. to provide the families with a comprehensive support program. through a network of over 700 --

the loved ones of those on board have been provided with -- and they provide care support and counsel to the families. and with this program and the loss of this and three additional tsh-and to ensure families have success to around the clock support. and in addition, a combination for up to five family members. with meals and other expenses, provided since 8 of march and that will continue.

financial assistance for a,000 per passenger to each next of kin. we recognize the financial support is not the only consideration. but the prolonged search is naturally placing financial strain on relatives. we are therefore preparing to offer a digsal payment as the search continues. this event in history has made the past 18 days the greatest challenge to face our entire team at malaysian airlines. i've been hm bled by the hard work, by dedication, heart felt messages, concern and also

support from our team. we do not know why, we do not know how we do not know how this happened, but as -- we all put passengers and crew of flight 370 -- >> ladies and gentlemen, members of the media, i will open the floor for question and answer session. please state your name and media organization before you ask a question. >> yes, actually just now,

showing sorrow, and shouts and screams, especially if beijing at hotel, so up until now, it said you delayed investigations. did you and actually, what is the exact evidence that you show to and some of the family members tell us they want to -- went to australia. they want to go to australia. could you arrange the trip for them? thank you. >> we will appreciate the -- we tell the missing plane to the authorities. since then, finding the plane and since then, the authorities, but as i mentioned earlier, our

focus, our action from this period, that is at least, was to provide fair and assistance. suddenly this as we fully understand and the impact immediately -- and how they react is only emotional as we may say. that is going to australia -- >> [ inaudible ] >> yes?

>> next question. >> my question is so far you haven't had any information about the missing place but how are you so sure that you -- how would you delay that the plane crashed. and the images and the like -- thank you. >> very much. i think that is very fair question. as you would also appreciate, especially last night, the families that came out, he has been given very credible lead that would require him to -- the plane and the flight. that position is very remote

away from the nearest land mass and up the 17 days we could have conclusion -- >> yes, please. >> you talk just a minute ago that this -- [ inaudible ] >> and once part of the investigation -- [ inaudible ]

>> very evident that the -- [ inaudible ] presented us to and what we did yesterday is scare that to next of kin.hcare that to next of kin.are that to next of kin. >> next. >> the lady there. >> has the malaysian side housing information and evidence -- [ inaudible ] >> my answer is that the first effected party, investigation is

with the authorities. and invest the authorities. >> i have a question. the i have to rephrase. now we confirm that -- [ inaudible ] what kind of survival chance would the passengers be totally avoided. that's the first question. and second one, is now there is some reports about this time -- could be a problem which is very closely similar as the incident that happened and also that

airplane and very -- and the flying reports. so they have very similar -- [ inaudible ] >> i'm sorry, that would be very important consideration by investigators. thank you. >> first one, survival clanses -- >> at the moment, that's how we look at it. because the plane and at a place similar -- i mean, land mass. >> okay. >> and given to us.

and and so we put only -- [ inaudible ] >> thank you. >> -- most of them are no satisfied with reaction to this emergency was helping about this. and why you isolate it. thank you. >> and they are satisfied.

>> you need this several days, in malaysia, include south -- them with satisfied reaction to this emergency. so what is convenient about this and why you have them to the outside world. >> thank you. >> okay. our first concern particularly for the families from china. is for their safety and comfort and the privacy. and that is the main concern, the drive, and the family members. and in terms of wide, keep them

hanging on, we have -- [ inaudible ] >> probably actually, it is not that correct. and we certainly put them in a place that -- aep that also is -- they could have privacy and we have been successful and whatever they require, like places for them and -- >> next yes.

[ inaudible ] >> now narrow the investigation to the krou members and pilot. can you comment on that and talk to, having in the federation, the pilot and -- [ inaudible ] . thank you. >> i appreciate that. that comes back to the purpose of the crash and -- [ inaudible ] other than the families, and the crew last night, to break the news, and what we meant in particular with our care giving and what we do in terms of the

process as you might have -- for events like this. so it correct, but i think the right -- [ inaudible ] >> last question to be permitted. >> you referred earlier to what led to last night's announcement. can you say exactly what new analysis was and what came here -- >> [ inaudible ] >> you knew, what was it?

>>. [ inaudible ] >> questions are answered from last night. can you give clarity. >>. [ inaudible ] . >> a reminder that you do now have more information which led you to the conclusion of the prime minister. what is your analysis of what actually happened, bearing in behind we have -- >> i don't want to speculate in terms of what happened today. it is ongoing. lost focused for family members. and that's really on focus here.

otherwise, we are speculating. and i think investigation -- i don't want to speculate any more. >> in the process, going forward, in terms of how we can meet our legal obligations. >> thank you. >> next question -- thank you. steve from cbs news. i wanted to ask a question, this has been dealt with a little bit at the news conference. some people, family members, have not been happy with the way this all has come down as far as their isolation in some cases, whatever. some people have suggested or implied that malaysian airline officials have been heartless. have you been heartless? can you respond to na?

>> we appreciate that. no 2% effected would have similar reaction. depending on who you speak to, you would get different information. so there are also on -- [ inaudible ] >> so each question, and not looking at -- >> merely reaching for, because you didn't realize that you know know, missing second defense crew and members of public and airlines extremely -- [ inaudible ] . >> and that extension -- so the

first part is to provide input there. from the first day, from the assistance and all over the place. and we have for sure that we -- and we probably enabled them to provide whatever, you know, that we can do. and certainly, no compensation will make up for any loss of life. and we appreciate that. >> and can i ask one follow-up. are you going to attempt or will your high ranking executives attempt to meet with every family that suffered a also. >> it is done all the time, sir. thank you. >> thank you. >> the gentleman in red shirt.

>> how do you see -- i know it is a difficult question, but how do you see this position of australian government met only if grant visas. maybe still there is hope from us a straulians. >> i don't speak on behalf of australia government. >> that's what i thought. when i agree, i agree. like i said, we are here to ensure that we support the family and full fir their wishes. >> hopefully in this time of -- compassion will rise.

so i think notwithstanding, i'm sure, as we say, this is unprecedented event and we may look at some that good is obvious. so not necessarily look at the book. >> i'm sure that this issue will arise and i'm sure it will be a test. >> anything special? >> and i'm jason from wall street journal. >> i understand that -- malaysia airlines was also under investigation. can you tell us, after one and two weeks, what is the most likely cause -- i appreciate the

adversity. and what we can do outside the investigation. >> and yeah. and we don't want to jeopardize or anticipate anything. >> yes, please. yes, please. >> i would like to talk about our future. i know, how do you think the business -- >> there are airlines ticket.

they are served. being flown safely. moving forward is something that we will look into. and something that we must share with the families on both -- you know, on -- i think this is a very painful period for the airline. and something that we have to -- when you share this, families. >> i was -- not necessarily we actually have angle now. and we had our process and

precedings up to the level. and to ensure safety. >> and we have closing words. >> we can have a separate one, thank you. the same as original for -- and our hearts and prayers are with the family. thank you. >> any remarks from you? >> our focus as mentioned is really to ensure that we