tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC March 26, 2014 9:00am-10:01am PDT
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right now on "andrea mitchell reports", the 911 calls describing the river of mud and debris sweeping through two communities with no warning. today 16 people are confirmed dead, but as volunteers and family members join the desperate search, the death toll is expected to rise. coming up here, the governor joining me with the latest on the recovery operation. president obama calls on europe to ban together, but is it enough to deter vladimir putin? >> if anyone thought they wouldn't care about their actions in ukraine or if they thought they could drive a wedge between the european union and the united states, they clearly miscalculated. and pieces of the puzzle? authorities are calling it the most credible lead yet in the search for missing debris from flight 370. 122 potential objects spotted on french satellite images taken
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sunday. but as the search in the southern indian ocean expands, rough weather conditions could stand in the way of finding this possible debris field. >> more clues from space, but frustratingl frustratingly, nothing found. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we will have a live briefing from officials in washington state as they continue this desperate search for victims in the mudslide. another eight bodies have been spotted but not yet recovered. that brings the likely death toll to at least 24 with many more feared dead. the very latest from arlington, washington state, i'm joined by jennifer bjorkland. jennifer, the hope is very slim, but they are still searching.
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and civilians -- unusual development, civilians have been permitted with some expertise to join in the search. >> that's true. that started yesterday. it was a relief for some of the family members who were desperate to go in and search for their loved ones in the rubble. they knew exactly where it will look. and that was the biggest help to the rescue workers that have all the experience with search and rescue techniques but didn't necessarily know the terrain. so together, they were able to spot the additional bodies. the first priority today with 200 boots on the ground, recover those eight additional bodies and to continue searching for air pockets, andrea. >> and jennifer, the briefing has begun, so let's join the briefing, if you could stand by with us right now. >> chief, can you use that hand held mic in front of you? >> this one?
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okay. >> today i'm going to give you an update on basically our daily plan. but first, i want to start out a little about our responders out there. our main drive is to take care of them. and whether it's logistically, or operationally, that is my intent to keep them safe, fed, water, rest, etc. so that is my main drive and that's my focus moving forward with the amount of time that we're going to be here and on a daily basis. with the weather issues we had yesterday, they got beat up in relation to trying to accomplish the objective and moving forward with that. so today, on the west side, we have integrated a national guard in the extrack team to assist us in that. they started yesterday and they'll be fully integrated today on the west side with that team.
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we set up a grid system that will ensure that we're covering all the areas. and we will cover it more than once. we usually do it once, twice, or three times as needed to make sure that we're covering all the areas that we need to go into. on the east side, on the darington side, we have the washington task force 1 integrated in, which they're providing a lot of expertise in that usar type mode over there. it's really similar to the national guard, their capabilities. and we also have other plans in place to open up access for us to get into the site, because we have the water infiltration issue, the pond on the east side. and i'll let somebody else speak to the levels of water, what they're dealing with there. generally, that's what we're
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seeing today. okay, thank you. >> i've also invited our new sheriff to come up and give us an overview of what his operation is. sheriff? >> as they continue the briefing in washington state, the outlook is so grim because this could take months and months. we're talking about a long stretch of highway. and they have no idea how many cars were covered in mud during the mudslide. >> reporter: right. there are people passing through on the highway. you have to remember this happened on a saturday when a lot of people were home. there were 200 people that live in that community. so many of them haven't been heard from since saturday. it could take months. some people have predicted it could take years to dig through all that mud. it's almost like a forensic examination. and it has been compared to the type of work they had to do at the world trade center, because they just don't know what
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they're going to find. they can't just go in with heavy equipment if they're actually looking to recover victims' bodies in that mudslide. and we've also been told, one statistic we heard this morning is the amount of volume that came off that hillside is enough concrete for three hoover dams. moving at 30 miles an hour. so the impact was just massive. >> that is just a stunning, stunning image. thank you, jennifer, for continuing to report for us. we will continue to follow the latest developments on the mudslide, the recovery effort. coming up this hour, the washington governor will join me. president obama, meanwhile, on his trip to reaffirm bonds with european allies has gone to belgium today, where within the hour, the president will be giving the only set speech of his tour. but is moscow listening? new hampshire senator jean shaheen joins me now. thanks for being with us. the president is saying that the
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allies are together, but there is certainly a different perspective from the europeans who rely so heavily on energy from moscow, and the americans. so the bottom line seems to be we'll take tougher sanctions steps, the ones that will really hurt, if and when vladimir putin takes the next move and goes beyond crimea. >> well, we have taken some sanctions measures. i think those are important. we need to send a very strong signal to putin, that he has violated international law and the international community is going to respond. here in congress, we need to pass legislation to support y ukraine. they need economic stability as russia has pulled out the support that they had been giving them. so i think that's very important. we're close to a vote hopefully before the end of this week. >> the secretary of state has been very unhappy with the fact that the imf provisions, which were so important to us internationally, are being pulled out of the bill in order to get something through the
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senate. they can also pass the house. so apparently harry reid is prepared to strip out the imf language from the ukraine economic support bill today. >> i think that's correct. it's unfortunate. the united states is the only country that hasn't endorsed those imf reforms and we need to do that. but the most important thing right now is to get this legislation passed so we can provide the support ukraine needs to maintain stability. >> i'm going to ask you about politics, because you are running for re-election and now you've got someone from across the border in massachusetts, a former senator, a former colleague scott brown, of course, the republican who is toying with a challenge. he's not officially in the race yet, but he's making it pretty clear. what is your response to running against a former senator from massachusetts, but with some roots in new hampshire? >> well, you know, we're going to have a long campaign. we're going to debate the issues robustly, and i think that's important for new hampshire voters. they will ultimately decide who represents them.
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but it's been disappointing to me to see that scott brown has been unwilling to endorse the pledge that he came up with in his race against elizabeth warren that would limit that outside third party money they've already started spending in new hampshire, and i think the voters don't know who's paying for the ads, don't know who's financing them. we need to limit that outside third party interest money and it's unfortunate that he's not willing to support it. he said this was good for the voters of massachusetts. well, if it was good for the voters of massachusetts, it ought to be good for the voters of new hampshire. we saw it did, in fact, limit that third party money. it did reduce negative ads by about 40%. it did hold candidates accountable for what was on the air. >> scott brown was, of course, asked about being a carpet bagger and crossing the border in massachusetts and his comment
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has drawn a lot of attention. he said, do i have the best credentials? probably not. 'cause, you know, whatever. but i have long and strong ties to this state. and his point is that from childhood on, he did have a vacation home in new hampshire. it is right across the border. it's the same media market. so he has some built-in advantages. he's very well-known in new hampshire. >> the late night comedians can decide whether his answer made sense. i'm trying to stay focus on what i need to do for the people of new hampshire to represent them in the united states senate. >> understandable. thank you very much, senator. good to be with you. and of course, scott brown is welcome to appear any time he wants to come on the program. we'll be glad and happy to talk to him. thank you, senator. and now to what could be a promising new lead one hopes in the search for the missing malaysia night 370. satellite images taken sunday show 122 potential objects. what could be a debris field. 1,500 miles from perth australia
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in the southern indian ocean. the objects were between three feet and 72 feet in length. they were seen across an area of 154 square miles. this is the fourth set of satellite images to show debris. the multi-national fleet of planes and ships combing the area are still coming up empty. >> reporter: the problem is there is a disconnect between what's seen from space and what the crews based here can see at two or 300 feet. there have been dozens of missions so far, but very, very little seen. 12 planes went out today. two ships were in the search area. nothing sighted. the visibility very poor. the bad news is the search was suspended yesterday because of bad weather. more bad weather is on the way. >> bill neely, our chief global correspondent in perth, australia. meanwhile, in chicago, family members of one of the indonesian passengers onboard have taken the first step toward a potential multi-million-dollar
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we're going to do everything we can to support ukraine in its elections, its economy, and continue to try to isolate russia in response to the actions that is taken. >> president obama today in brussels, proving just how far we have moved from that supposed reset with moscow. joining me now from our daily fix, crishris cilizza.
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i'm told russia moves beyond crimea. my sense is angela merkel leading the european union is not going to be able to get people to make real sacrifices of their energy supplies and their basic relationship with russia. >> most people don't realize brussels is the second most important political capital in the world. you have the european union, which is a larger economy than the united states. and you have nato, which is the most important military alliance. the most important thing he had to do is show a sense of unity and urgency about the crisis, and in his speech he'll give some specifics about what we'll do to reassure the nato allies that are on the border of russia. the second thing he had to do is show support for ukraine, not just to survive, but to thrive. that's going to be more the
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european union's job, but he had to show that together with european union leaders. the final one, and this is the trickiest one, is how do you contain russia? and in his speech in half an hour, he's going to make sure that this isn't just a russia issue, this is an international system issue, that we're an inflection point in history, and if we don't get it right with russia right now, we may lose the post-cold war order and decades of work that the u.s. has done together with europe to create a europe whole and free and to create a world that's going in a generally positive direction. if we get russia wrong right now, he's going to send a very strong message that this has global ramifications and not just regional ramifications. and that gets to the sanctions question. it's anemic against what putin is putting up. it's a real test of whether you can deter a person like vladimir putin with questions of prestige, taking him out of the g8 and questions of economy. where the market impact may be
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more imimportant than the individual sanctions. >> chris, here at home, the people who are thinking and gaming what to do going towards the midterm elections, candidates as well as party organizers, they're not thinking about vladimir putin. they're not thinking about the european market, which is our biggest market. they're thinking about domestic concerns and jobs, and in a very narrow sense. how do you get americans to care about this? and i was also thinking, watching the president's news conference this morning, which we were carrying live here. you know, he's talking about nato partners not putting up enough of their fair share. we're putting up our money for nato, but we're about to strip the imf reform out of the senate ukraine bill. and in our own pentagon budget, it is woefully underfunded according to many people who look at the crises around the world. >> andrea, you've hit on the nub of it, which is people regularly ask me and have for the past month or so, what is everything
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that's happening in ukraine and crimea and russia. what does it mean potentially for the midterm elections. the answer i always give is almost certainly nothing. and the reason for that is exactly what you've just said. even in great economic times, foreign policy is always something that people are vaguely aware of but rarely vote on. at a time like this when jobs and the economy remains a dominant issue and a real point of worry for many americans, the idea of what's happening in the ukraine and with russia even are just not top of the mind issues. and i'm not sure there is a way to answer your question. there is a way that president obama can sort of convince people why they need to be more bought in to our involvement such as it is in the region. >> and just take 30 seconds to tell me whether you think the secret service's latest embarrassment with three
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inebriated secret service members, members of that cad squad being sent home from amsterdam, whether that is going to become pretty much of an issue. >> i'll do it very, very quickly. i don't think it in and of itself is that big an issue, though it is an embarrassment. i would say president obama -- and this is with the enrollment period on health care, which was announced last night, the secret service news. he has to worry about the ability of him to manage the government effectively. if that starts to erode, then it is a problem. no one of these stories do it, but maybe the combination of them start to. >> and thanks very much to you, to fred kempe as the president continues. we're going to be hearing his speech, so we're going to have to race along. thanks both of you for setting it up so well. it sure doesn't feel like spring in massachusetts and eastern maine. check out dylan dreyer bracing again against the wind. she has endured winter's wrath all season.
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now our look at the march to 2014 continues today with a look at politics in the hotly contested georgia governor's race. we're talking about georgia state senator jason carter, challenging republican incumbent nathan deale, trying to follow in the footsteps of his grandfather former president jimmy carter, who was governor of georgia before going to the white house. joining me now from atlanta, state senator jason carter. thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> the obvious question is name recognition and whether being your grandfather's grandson helps you in this race with georgians. >> well, i think obviously i'm proud of my grandfather. i love him. and he's very well-known and well-liked in this state. but at the end of the day, this campaign is going to be about a real vision for georgia, and we're looking not at the past, but towards the future and what we have today in the governor's office is someone who hasn't had
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any vision at all, and has been afraid to lead on issues like education, the economy, and ethics. >> assuming that the governor -- the republican governor, governor deale, does win the primary and he has challenges, but he is so far ahead, what can you propose that will be different than what he has done in terms of jobs and the things that you have decided? >> sure. i think one of the important things to note about that primary is that one of the people running against the governor is the sitting state school superintendent, who's a statewide elected republican, who's running against governor deale because of how badly the governor has mishandled public education. we have a series of proposals that are going to allow us to truly be honest and transparent about what we put into our education system and accountable on the way out. that has to be the backbone of economic development because the biggest drain on our economy right now in georgia is the fact that our education system is in
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shambles. >> you're not the only person with us that's a celebrated political name. michelle nun, senator nun's daughter, who has a long career in her own right running for the senate. so is this basically the carter-nun ticket going up against the republicans? >> well, i think at the end of the day, michelle is great and she and i have worked together very well. she had a very good, long career. but georgia right now is at a time when it's ready for new leadership. we have had, as i said in the governor's race and at the state level, a series of terrible mismanagement with respect to our economy and our education system. i think folks are ready for a change. we certainly feel that energy. we certainly feel like people are ready for new leadership, and i think that we will have an exciting election in georgia, no doubt. >> one of the charged issues, racially charged issues is
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whether or not the state ought to offer as an option a confederate flag on the license plate. where do you come down on that? governor deale is supporting the option. >> well, i think at the end of the day, what we have to realize about our state is that our heritage is very diverse in a host of ways. we're the cradle of the civil rights movement. we have the ability to celebrate that, and we do. one of the things that's most fundamental to me about creating my campaign and about creating a future of georgia is one that looks like the rest of georgia. i mean, we have a serious dearth of representatives throughout our state that look like the multi-cultural, multi-racial state that we are, and that we will be in the future. so i think we have to do everything we can in order to be welcoming in that regard, and to ensure that we can move forward into that future, that the business communities and sees. >> so the confederate flag -- i didn't mean to interrupt you, but does that mean that the
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confederate flag would be sending the wrong signal of diversity, of being welcoming to all? >> i don't frankly hear people talk about it that much in georgia. i think it's the kind of thing that folks talk about on national political things, but folks in georgia have in a lot of ways moved past that from a racially charged standpoint. how we can ge get folks educated and honest government that works for everyone. >> jason carter, thank you so much. on this day back in 1979, that was the picture on the north lawn of the white house, the signing of the camp david accords, the cords that last to this day despite everything that has happened in the decades since. now to a daring rescue in houston. the dramatic moments caught on a cell phone camera. a raging five-alarm fire at a building site trapped a construction worker on a balcony. as he tried to escape, he
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welcome back. there is some real progress to be made, is being made in washington, d.c. public schools. they've steadily improved over the past few years with test scores on the rise. reformers are oftentimes hitting a brick wall when it comes to local government. next tuesday, there's a mayoral election and that could decide the future of public education in the district. so what lessons can d.c. schools teach the rest of the nation? a lot, it turns out. joining me now is donald graham, chairman of the d.c. college access program, and of course the former publisher of "the washington post," and kaia anderson, the chancellor of d.c. public schools. welcome to you both. don, i know you a longtime supporter of public education. what kaia anderson has done is really exemplary. i'll let you give her the props and talk about how you've done it. >> well, i've lived in washington all my life. and for a long time, for 25 years before kaia's predecessor michelle reid took over. i've been really -- to give
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credit where it's due, a couple of superintendents before that put some stability under the system. but through most of the '80s and '90s, our school system steadily declined in its performance on the federally administered tests of reading and math. and it's very rare for a city to show sustained progress. it's so unusual. that boston made significant progress with the same superintendent, the same mayor over ten or 15 years. it's hard to point to out. chancellor anderson has led this system, came in as deputy chancellor, is now chancellor. since 2007, washington's students, who really deserve the credit, have made very dramatic progress. there's still a long way to go, but nobody says that more eloquently than the chancellor does. >> chancellor, one of the things that's so remarkable is we've had seven school superintendents in 18 years. that kind of turnover is crazy in terms of stability and
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sustaining growth. tell me first of all where we stand now in d.c. public schools, and to what do you attribute the progress? >> well, i think it's a great day in d.c. public schools. we've gone from a steadily declining system to really turning the corner, and we are now progressing rapidly. our national test scores are up, local test scores are up. enrollment, which had been declining for 40 years is now starting to grow, which means families have confidence in us. i attribute these things to a couple of things. first of all, we've paid attention to the quality of the people who are in front of our children. a rabid focus on high caliber teachers and school leaders. and then we've actually raised the bar for our young people. we've put in place a curriculum that's aligned to the common core standings. and what we've seen is when you raise the bar for teachers and when you raise the bar for students, they will rise to those expectations. so we're growing further and faster than a lot of other school districts in the country.
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>> one of the problems, though, potential problems is the political climate, where the council has not controlled -- the mayor has had a lot of leverage since 2007, but now the council members and a lot of them are running for mayor want to take over again. >> i can speak to the old days. back before the d.c. council bravely put the mayor in charge of our public school system and said you're going to be responsible -- >> there's no accountability. >> before that we had an elected school board. and we had people of varying quality to serve on it. many were more interested in their own careers than the progress of d.c. students and that led to that turnover of superintendents that we had now. we've had two back-to-back mayors who wanted to see progress in the schools put themselves on the line and that progress has been sustained. >> chancellor, what about parental involvement?
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principals are so important, teachers are important, you've had the incentive pay and the private foundation support for paying teachers more. unions put themselves on the line and got very involved in the last race. putting $2 million into defeating the former mayor. but now we've got a situation where parents have to be more involved, don't they? >> absolutely. i think the three magic ingredients are great educators, a rigorous curriculum, and motivated students and engaged families. it's not just parents. we need our students to be accountable as well. and those are the three things that we're working on in dcps and that's where we think the progress will come. to the political situation, i think everybody in washington is now excited about the progress that we're making, and so everybody wants to be involved in it. and i think one of the things we have to be very careful about is really staying the course. previously, nobody expected anything about dcps, so people just left it alone. now that we're actually showing progress, everybody wants to have their hand in it. i think the way that we've
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achieved success is by focusing and we need to stay focused. >> congratulations to you and to supporters in the civic community like donald graham -- >> we could not do this job without great civic supporters like donald. >> you've got people watching you all over the country, and, you know, i think if there's one lesson from all this, it's if you've got someone good leading your school system -- >> get behind that person. thank you so much. >> thank you. and we have more now on the deadly mudslide in washington state that has already killed 16 people with 176 feared missing. just moments ago at a news conference, the snohomish county director expressed gratitude for all the support he's received. >> we are humble beyond belief in this county. we have received -- it is -- it is very humbling -- it is very humbling and we are respectfully very grateful.
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>> those first responders are doing such an extraordinary job. the governor joins me by phone from olympia, washington. governor, first of all our condolences. this, i am told, could take months to try to excavate and figure out what happened and why and how many were lost. >> yes. you've got to understand the enormity of this. it's literally a square mile of mud and downed trees and debris and a giant swirly of one square mile. actually cleaned the mountain in half. it came down, crossed the valley, crossed the river, crossed the highway and started to go up the valley on the other side. so the dimensions of this really defy imagination, unless you're on the ground to see it. there was just nothing standing there. this is going to be a long process for these communities to
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get back up, to heal, and we appreciate the whole nation grieves for them. and appreciate the nation's help. president obama and i spoke yesterday and the nation is going to help on this. so we're appreciative. >> do you think that warnings were not heeded? there was the army corps of engineer report of a catastrophic landslide back in '99 and again in 2010, another warning? >> well, we're going to get to the bottom of all of that. but we're in a rescue mode right now. our energies have to be focused on finding these people. these families are grieving for their loved ones and we really have to focus on the job of the moment, which is finding anyone that's alive, and we're focused 100% in that regard. i can tell you that glaciers carved a beautiful state here, but they left behind huge mountains of very unstable glacial till and silt. and we have hundreds of locations in our state that are prone to landslides. so this is something i'm sure after we finish the rescue
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effort, we will turn to getting the answers to the questions you've asked, which are good ones and important ones and we will get all the answers. >> understandably, there were a lot of people home because it was a saturday, but there were also a lot of people on that highway. the highway has been obliterated. is there any way of trying to narrow down the large number, 176 of missing and unaccounted for and figuring out how many could have been on the road. >> i think we're doing the most important thing, which is to get every single human resource involved in this rescue effort. i can tell you that we do. we have a forward looking infrared system to find people. we have dog teams, we have hovercraft. we have many aircraft involved in the search. now hundreds of people, including rescue extraction professional teams. so that's the most important thing we can do. it will be sometime until the missing lists are fully coordinated because frankly,
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people sometimes go by different versions of names to try to figure all this out. we've really got to focus on what's important right now, which is finding these people and getting the help that their grieving families need and that's what we're focused on. >> governor, thank you very much. i know how busy it is. >> thanks for your care about this. >> you bet. meanwhile, we have a verdict to report. osama bin laden's son-in-law has been found guilty of conspireing to kill americans while serving as al qaeda's chief propaganda spokesperson after the september 11th attacks. he could face life in prison. he is the highest ranking member of al qaeda to be tried on u.s. soil since 2011september 11th. [ bubbles ] [ giggling ] again! again! [ giggles ] again! [ mom ] when we're having this much fun, why quit? and new bounty has no quit in it either. it's 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand, and then stays strong, so you can use less.
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♪ [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. and we're expecting to hear any moment from president obama, giving his major speech on u.s.-europe relations in
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brussels. chuck todd is traveling with the president and joins me now. chuck, this speech is supposed to lay out the alliance and the strength of the alliance. still undercut by recent events. but tell me what white house officials are telling you to expect from what the president will be saying? >> well, he wants to do a 30,000-foot speech about how why pushing back against russia is so important when it comes to what just took place in ukraine and kiem crimea, that it flies e face of everything that western europe and the united states have spent 70 years post-world war ii trying to create, which is this international community that respects borders, that respects freedoms, that is much more interlocked than it even was just 20 years ago. so that is the goal, trying to put it in a larger context. because we spent a lot of time discussing this morning, the
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europeans don't disagree with everything that the president's going to be saying today. it's just there's the hard, practical matter of things. the pragmatic approach of the issues with the economy and how intertwined europe is. and i throw this at you, since this is your beat. you spent so long covering sort of international relations of the united states. isn't it interesting that in a span of about eight years, we go from europe begging for the united states to be more active and involved in europe, to now the president almost begging europe to be more part of the -- to be more supportive of what the united states wants. a little bit of a role reversal there and all because of just how intertwined the european economy just in a short period of time has become with the russian my. >> and while we have a moment here, until the president comes out, i also wanted to talk about the rest of this trip. interestingly, of course, there is the vatican visit with the pope. and if you just look at the u.s. conference of bishops, the
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parallel course with this administration on some economic issues, on social change, minimum wage. just reaching out to the poor. but then you get to the cultural and social issues, not so much. >> sure. >> so you've got those divergent paths. pope francis is more likely and the white house more likely tomorrow when they go to the vatican to emphasize where they come together. but that's going to be a very important moment. and then you've described as the i'm sorry tour of saudi arabia with king abdullah. i'm told he, the aging king, the leader of the kingdom, is ready to tell the president exactly what he thinks about syria, the red lines, about the iran negotiations. that is not going to be a very easy stop. >> no, it's not. but let's bring that up a minute. we should be standsing up for our colleague from t"the jerusalem post".
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it's a total outrage. obviously the white house press association, we've all collectively protested this move. the white house actually stepped up yesterday, but they said that they weren't going to cancel the trip over this. but, you know, it really is for -- it's funny, and you've been covering the saudis for so long. they used to be politically so in tune with sort of how to maneuver in washington, and this move seemed completely tone deaf. not understanding that sort of -- you know, the old rules just don't apply anymore. at a time when they want to make this strong point. >> let me just point out, as you say, this is the white house correspondent for "the jerusalem post," an american. they can't say that he's an israeli. not that that would defend it at all. but he is a u.s. citizen, never lived in israel. he works and covers the white house. >> u.s. passport.
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>> he's part of the press corps. and waited and waited and waited until it was beyond the time where he would get that visa and then he was told he's not going to be visaed. so the white house has protested. the correspondents have protested. and it does take away from what many would say would be the king's message to the president, which is that on foreign policy, there is no trust right now of this administration and this president, this white house, because primarily because of syria and what they saw as the president not delivering on what he had promised regarding syria and taking action. >> that's right. and the saudis have been waiting for this moment. as you noted. the king feels as if he got a lot off his chest. very upset with the president. a lot of disagreement about how to deal with syria right now. and they pull a stunt like this, and it doesn't put them in the best position. doesn't allow them to have
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whatever high ground that they thought that they were going to have with this meeting. but back to the pope. i think you're going to -- this president has cited this pope quite a bit in the last year because he wants to emphasize the issue of income inequality and things like that, and the pope obviously has been also very outspoken on these issues as well. so i suspect this will be the one part of the trip where it will feel like the president's getting a little bit of his domestic message into the conversation. >> and in ten seconds, is there any update on the secret service issue? >> nothing beyond -- the hotel is somehow denying the incident took place. i've talked to multiple sources say that is just not true, that this took place at the president's -- the hotel that the president stayed at where you had a drunken secret service agent passed out in front of his hotel room. couldn't even get into the door. all taking place.
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this was an advanced team. all taking place about 48 hours before the president arrived. but, of course, given what's gone on with the secret service in colombia over the last couple of years, certainly a step back in the agency's attempt to change the culture inside the secret service. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. stay with us right here on "andrea mitchell reports." ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪
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address as the signal speech of the president's overseas trip this week. he's going to be speaking from the very heart of europe at a time when the relationship with his european allies is more important than ever. russia's takeover of crimea has shaken that continent to its core. yesterday, president obama, of course, attempted to minimize the threat russia and putin pose. take a listen. >> america's got a whole lot of challenges. russia is a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors. not out of strength, but out of weakness. >> oh no he didn't! we will bring you the president's remarks right as they happen live here, and we'll go in-depth with some very interesting experts on this subject. first, i'm going to go to my colleague chuck todd, who is traveling with the president, and has the inside scoop on
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