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a second. >> i was out there. i was with those folks in ohio, what the folks in ohio are saying is totally different from what we are hearing from john boehner. great to have you with us tonight. >> thanks for joining us. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the g.o.p.'s health care freakout. we are five days away from the deadline to sign up for health care. democrats are racing to get people covered and republicans can't handle it. today the obama administration announced people who start the enrollment process before monday's deadline can get an extension if they don't finish in time. it's just like if you are in line to vote when the polls close you still get to vote.
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to the right it's another excuse to attack the law and the president. >> he hasn't put enough loopholes into the law already the administration is now resorting to an honor system to enforce it. what the hell is this, a joke? >> what the extension means is i tried to sign up but couldn't finish the job. >> the president continues to make swiss cheese out of this law. >> it is more about making certain that the administration is not embarrassed by the enrollment number that was supposed to be generated on march 31. >> a joke? swiss cheese? what are they talking about? but it's funny to hear carl rover attack the extension. his old boss did the same thing. in 2006 president bush wanted seniors to sign up for the new medicare prescription drug benefit. days before the deadline he gave some of them extra time.
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>> if you are eligible for extra help, if you are a low income senior, the may 15 deadline does not apply to you. in other words, you can apply after may 15 without penalty. and that's important for low income seniors to understand. we want everybody to sign up. >> so when president bush grants an extension it's no big deal, but when president obama does it it's terrible. you got to love that logic. the truth is the demand for health care is getting higher and higher. over the weekend a million people visited healthcare.gov. there were another million visits monday and 1.2 million on tuesday. people need this law and they like what's in it. a new poll finds 80% of americans support letting young adults stay on their parents
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plans. 77% favor the law's free preventive care. 74% are for the medicaid expansion. and 70% support ending discrimination based on preexisting conditions. this law is doing great things. all the president wants is more people to benefit from it. that's what republicans are complaining about and it is pretty sad. joining me now are joy reed and jonathan capehart thank you for being here. slamming president obama for extending the health care signup deadline when president bush did the same thing, what is your reaction to this? >> this has always been a numbers game. for the republicans the idea is that the more that they can find reasons to attack the law they see this is in their benefit in terms of 2014. fort president and democrats the more people who have health care the more the law is rooted.
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if you have 5 million people, that is just the private health care signups. when you add medicaid you are talking 15 to 20 million people in theory having health care that now they have it becomes almost impossible to message against it. you have that many people invested in the law. the white house wants as many people as possible. it is like the voting roles. people leaving later because people are in line. republicans what they really would love to do is minimize and not let the white house get to that 6 million numbert that they said was their goal. it is not really surprising that the republicans messaget that way. i think for the democrats the white house needed to get in front of that messaging a little earlier. >> they were confusing people. >> i thought we had seen every kind of attack on the health care law but a republican congressional candidate has a
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new ad where he actually shoots a copy of the law. take a look. ♪ >> looks like we will have to resort to more extreme measures to get rid of obamacare and replace it with a more market based solution. >> i bet you had seen it all, too. this is amazing. he is asking people to send him to congress when he literally puts out an ad shooting the health care bill. that is very congressional-like. >> it's very high brow and very
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suited to someone who should be in the halls of congress helping to pass laws that help people in this country. in all fairness, he is not the first one to take a gun to a piece of legislation that people don't like. senator manchin of west virginia did the same thing to the cap and trade bill. what this does is it sort of makes very graphic the type of anger that there is for the affordable care act that has been stoked by republicans. and i'm sure this fellow is running in a district that is air tight republican. so he is not doing anything that is outrageous to the people he is hoping will send him to congress. as the chart showed the affordable care act, obamacare if you ask people if they like obamacare they say they hate it. if you read the provisions that you outlined they love it.
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>> 80%, 77%, 74% depending on the question. when you see ads like that it shows you the kind of venom that they are building up. and we are talking about providing health care for people. fine. we can disagree and say i don't like the president's policy here. but why this venom? why this hatred? and why no alternative plan? >> and fighting against a phantom. he is shooting pieces of paper out of a fake canon. a lot of people saying they hate obamacare the most have it. there are a lot of people signing up for it saying you will never take away my medicaid expansion and you say that is obamacare. they are like i still hate it. once they have it the republicans know that a year from now or two years from now especially in 2016 it will be nearly impossible to run those kinds of ads because you will be
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telling people who have the insurance we are going to take that away from you and attempt to cancel this law that gave you for the first time the ability to go to the doctor. >> and to extend your children in terms of coverage. jonathan, back to the confusion of this extension and i would say the purposeful confusion by some on the right, you had two republicans, high ranking members of the party use the day's announcement to accuse the president of being lawless. watch this. >> has obama ever met a deadline? it is impossible for average citizen to know whether he complying with the law or not. >> the dates are the dates and the law is the law. the president doesn't have the ability to change the law whenever he wants which he continues to do. >> why do they keep going back to this attack? saying if you are in line and already in the process that you
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can continue continue is not breaking the law. >> look, rev, this is all part of a concerted effort by the republican party to undermine the president and to undermine the law. it is all about trying to erode people's confidence that the law which was passed by congress and upheld as constitutional by the supreme court of the united states that this law is somehow, is somehow not working, somehow not really the law of the land. that is why the president is tinkering with it. what republicans and joy pointed out, republicans know that the moment people understand and know that what they have is something that the republicans want to take away is the moment that people will revolt especially because it is health care. people are very emotionally tied to health care and for good reason. and the other problem in the long runt that republicans have
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is that the president is not really paying attention to the day to day attacks from speaker boehner and from rush limbaugh. he is looking at the long-term benefits that this law will have, the millions of people that it will help. i think from the administration's point of view and from the president's point of view, if she has to take lumps because he extends deadlines to make sure people in line get insurance andt that those people become part of the roles of the millions of people who have health care who diplomat hadidn't have it before. >> i think letting the center of medicare and medicaid services take the lead was probably not the way to go. i think their calculation is who would they rather have mad? the people at fox news who are going to be mad at them no matter what or people who
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started the signup process and then get cut off at the knees because of the deadline. and those people would be immediately scooped up by the right. >> as well as if you are sincerely trying to service people you are not only dealing with who you would rather have mad at you, who are you trying to serve? you are trying to serve the people trying to sign up. >> they are going to be mad anyway. >> if president obama walked on water fox would say he just can't swim. thanks for your time tonight. be sure to watch joy on the reid report week days at 2:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead, it's the g.o.p.'s newest game, who wants to marry a billionaire. we'll tell you why the biggest names in the party are flocking to vegas to meet with this guy. plus darryl issa is back
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democrats are fighting for the american people but republicans are fighting over who gets the biggest billionaire. tomorrow some of the g.o.p.'s top presidential hopefuls, jeb bush, chris christie, scott walker will head to vegas to kiss the ring of g.o.p. billionaire sheldon adelson. he is worth $38 billion. that is the guy who all republicans are trying to win over. that is their base. that is the gop's problem in a nut shell. they care more about people who spend millions of dollars on elections than the millions of people who actually vote in the elections. now senate democrats are making
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a big push to make that difference crystal clear. >> democrats are fighting for a fair shot for everyone while republicans are doing the bidding of the koch brothers, wealthy. >> middle class families want to know why there are two sets of rules. >> democrats will fight to restore the promise to millions of americans who feel trapped in a rigged game where heads, the wealthy win, and tails the rest of us loose. >> today they announced a campaign focused on raising the minimum wage, fair pay for women, making college more affordable and closing tax loopholes for corporations. democrats are planning votes on each and everyone of them in the coming weeks, forcing republicans to explain why they oppose issues that are popular with the american people.
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joining me now is senator sheldon whitehouse, democrat from rhode island. thank you for being here. >> good to be here. >> why do republicans think pocket book issues will make a difference. >> we want to make sure we are doing the right thing by the american people as the election comes on. the republicans are kind of going into the election vortex and gathering around their millionaires. we want to be focused on things that matter to american families, things like minimum wage, things like college affordability. if you talk to folks at home those are issues that americans are concerned about. we think it is the right thing to do for the country and we need to convince americans that we can give them a fair shot and we can change the rules back so
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it is not all for the billionaires and special interests and corporations but we can give americans a fair shot at the american dream and the things that their fathers had confidence in and mothers had confidence in but they don't have confidence in any longer. >> new white house report shows who benefits from increasing the minimum wage. 2.8 million single parents, 80% of them are women. these are the kinds of people that will benefit from raising the minimum wage. this is real stuff, is senator. >> it sure it. these are people who worked a lot in their lives. i think in america if you are willing to work a full 40-hour work week at the minimum wage then you shouldn't be in poverty. we should have a minimum wage that is back to where it was back in the past in terms of
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buying power andt that gives families a fair shot at working out of poverty if they are willing to work full time. right now the minimum wage doesn't do that. that will lift local businesses when the families have more money to spend. this is an economic lift for everybody and important for people willing to work that hard at those jobs. >> republican senator ted cruz has been using this line out on the speaking circuit. watch this. >> let me tell you the single biggest lie in all of politics is that republicans are the party of the rich. >> i mean the party of the rich. how can any republican say that with a straight face given the policies and agenda that they are supporting? >> he actually meant to say they are the party of the super rich. it is not enough just to be rich any longer. now they are only listening to billionaires. >> americans for prosperity
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backed by the billionaire koch brothers has spent $30 million on ads against democratic colleagues in states like louisiana, north carolina. >> for the koch brotherers spending this money in politics particularly when they want to hide the spending is a pretty good sign that they are up to no good. and when you look at their businesses, when you look at how big they are as polluters, they may be america's biggest polluters. so when they say we want less regulation that will help america, what they mean is we want less regulation of our pollution. that will help us make money. you go into races like kay hagan in north carolina and you see what polluters have done dumping the coal ash and ponds into rivers and then the koch brothers saying we want less
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regulation and we will spend this money i think people will start to connect the dots that these billionaires don't have america's best interests at heart. >> thank you so much for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. ahead, fresh off cutting democrat's mics at a bogus hearing, darryl issa is back at it again. what did he have in store today? for years rush limbaugh and those on the right have attacked people on food stamps. today's move is a new low. senator john mccain hypocrisy on russia makes him tonight's gotcha. stay with us.
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for years now darryl issa has attacked the president, vilified the attorney general and conducted a witch hunt in his house committee. and we saw that yet again today during yet another hearing on the so-called irs scandal. >> does nonpartisan nonpolitical agency target certain groups based on their names or
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political ideology? the irs did. >> congressman issa had the nerve to talk about the irs playing politics despite his last irs hearing, you know the one where he ended the session without letting a single democrat speak? >> we are adjourned. close it down. >> thank you. >> if you will sit down and allow me to ask a question. i am a member of the congress of the united states of america. i am tired of this. >> well -- >> we have members over here who represent 700,000 people. you cannot just have a one-sided investigation. there is absolutely something wrong with that and that is absolutely un-american.
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>> unamerican is right. congressman issa has had a vendetta against this administration. it doesn't matter if these hearings turn up nothing. he spent the last years searching for scandal everywhere. >> this is a failure. it needs to be investigated. our committee ecan investigate. >> it is a story of political interference. >> that includes fast and fuska furious. >> we are here because failures are not isolated to just tax exempt division. >> four months ago -- this fast and furious and things like it are beginning of attack. >> attack on benghazi. this hearing is over but this investigation is not. >> you see the investigation is never over with congressman issa even if there is nothing there. joining me now is democratic
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congressman jackie spear. she serves on the committee that held the hearing earlier today and "the daily beast" michelle cotter. >> at least congressman issa didn't cut mics off. >> we all got to say a few words. >> i mean, more and more of the same. clearly this has every appearance of a witch hunt, congress woman. >> here is the problem. we have a chairman of a committee who is supposed to be objective who goes on fox news before the first hearing and says there was white house involvement in the targeting by the irs. we then have over seven hearings. the ways and means committee has another nine hearings. there are 400,000 documents
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provided to the oversight committee. guess what. there is no smoking gun. there is no relationship between the white house and irs. and then the inspector general does an investigation. i might add the inspector general is a republican, used to be a republican staffer, contributed to republican candidates. he comes back and says no white house involvement whatsoever. and yet we continue to have these charades, these witch hunts week after week after week. mind you, the american people are concerned about whether or not gm had information about vehicles that should have been recalled. we have target with hundreds of millions of i.d.s that have been breached and data that has been breached. do we investigate those things. >> all of which your committee could be looking into. >> absolutely correct. >> even before today's hearing
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the g.o.p. i.r.s. investigation had cost millions. through mid february it involved 16 congressional hearings, 255 i.r.s. employees spent more than 97,000 hours responding to requests. it caused more than $14 million only to learn that there was no evidence of political motivation. >> that's what tends to happen with these investigations. they take on a life of their own and spiral out of control and then people get invested in them and can't stand not to find something. you see this over and over again. it shouldn't particularly be a surprise with congressman issa. we are talking about a guy who when he was looking to take over the committee saying he would like hearings seven days a week. he signaled early on this is
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what he would be doing. >> what bothers me, the other part of this, congressman, is the right wing fails to acknowledge that the i.r.s. was checking out liberal groups, too. not only there is no evidence about white house involve. they are ignoring the evidence that people on the left who went through the i.r.s. scrutiny on same issues. >> the truth of the matter is that the law provides that these have to be primarily for a social welfare purpose. so the i.r.s. has to check the applications to determine whether or not they are social welfare. they did look at progressive groups and conservative groups. the other part of this that people seem to forget is that these groups could have self-certified themselves and gone about their business.
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so that's what makes this whole process so outrageous. and the amount of money being spent so indefensible when we have so many important issues that are life and death in nature that we are not addressing. >> today another report on another g.o.p. witch hunt, benghazi. the associated press says that investigations into benghazi have cost the pentagon millions of dollars and thousands of hours in personnel time. >> exactly. and this is a particularly sore issue for republicans many whom deep in their soul believe that this president just can't handle national security and that there must be something there at that they can find and point to to prove this. it is also making for a good political line. but, you know, fundamentally a lot of republicans just feel like this president has been a complete disaster and they need
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to kind of validate that with this investigation. >> well, there is no wonder, congress woman, the g.o.p. is so obsessed with scandal. on fox news they even used the malaysia airplane tragedy. >> the malaysian government was blind sided. it is sort of their benghazi scandal. >> leading the nightly new newscast they don't focus on things like benghazi, fast and furious and i.r.s. >> america could close the investigation fast if it wanted to. as long as the plane is not hidden in benghazi or i.r.s. building. >> 239 people probably dead according to the government of malaysia. 239 people dead, three americans, but they suggest it was just some ploy to keep
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benghazi out of the news? this is outrageous even conservatives i would hope, congress woman. >> the fact that we have had 50 hearings on benghazi, four americans lost their lives. it was regrettable. it was painful, a terrible tragedy. what we should be focusing on is making sure our embassies and offices around the country and the world are indeed safe. the truth of the matter is the "washington post" has actually given darrel issa 12 pinnochio noses in the past year for statements on benghazi. >> 12. thank you very much for your time this evening. >> thank you, reverend. up next, what's going on? the computers of the pilot
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a french satellite firm says they have spotted 122 pieces of debris in the search area almost 1,600 miles off the coast of australia. these photos taken sunday show objects that are anywhere from three to 70 feet long and are described as bright, possibly metal objects. one is reportedly the size of a plane wing. experts are saying it's the most credible lead so far in the search for the missing plane. investigators have reduced the search area but it's still the size of texas and over 1,000 miles away from land. strong winds and high waves are slowing search efforts, frustrating families waiting to learn the fate of their loved ones. one australian official says, quote, we are not searching for a needle in a haystack.
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we are still trying to define where the haystack is. joining me now is jim kavanagh and michael pengea. thanks for being on the show tonight. >> you're welcome reverend al. >> let's focus on these new debris photos. how likely is it that this is plane wreckage? >> well, it's a good lead. there is a lot of stuff in the water there. planes do have things that float. there is seat cushions, life vests. if it is debris maybe they will be able to recover something. the safety of life at sea has highly reflective materials on life vests and mariners might have a chance to spot something. there is a lot of debris in the ocean and that is a large area. i think we have to maybe hope
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for the families that it might be something. >> do you agree that these debris photos are the best lead we have had? >> it is the only lead, reverend al. it's a hope really right now. we really don't know. we have no positive confirmation that that debris belongs to the aircraft. if it does belong then we have narrowed the search down to the size of the state of texas. and then multiplyt that by the fact it is in 23,000 feet of water in that spot. it took us three years to find the black boxes. they are orange really but we call them black boxes. they are so important because they contain the data of the aircraft, noises in the cockpit. that is what is in the black boxes. it took years to find that in the air france accident. we knew where air france went down. air france went down in only about 8,000 to 10,000 feet of
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water. we are talking 2 1/2 to three times that depth in the indian ocean. in that place in the world the calm sea has seven foot waves. they have been known to take aircraft carriers and make them float like pieces of styrofoam. now you have to take robotics and sonar to detect where the black boxes are. they are only going to ping for about ten more days. >> today there is news that the plane sent a final incomplete ping just eight minutes after the previously last known contact. what can a partial ping imply? >> i'm sorry, reverend al? >> what could a partial ping imply? >> it is just a possible location of where it saw the airplane last. and after that now you have the flight. now if it hits the water you have all of the currents that have been occurring.
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they are heavy currents over the last two weeks. so if this debris belongs to this aircraft now they have to do computations to determine where it may have hit and where this current may have brought this to and work backwards. and then you have to put sonar devices down and working these things on ships pitching up and down 50 feet sometimes in the rough part, one of the roughest oceans in the world is very, very, very difficult. when you get the robotics down those travel about 1 knot, 1 to 2 miles per hour and then you have thousands of square miles. there is a possibility that they will never find it. we have hopes, of course. we don't give up hope. there is a possibility it will never be found. >> the fbi says it is almost finished with its analysis of the hard drives of the pilot and
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co pilot. what are they looking for? >> they are looking for anything that might indicate that this flight patht that was really unusual -- reverend al, if you split this event into two parts when the plane went to this wait point where it was supposed to be and then turned west and dog legged north into the sea. it was picked upby the thailand radar and button hooked back down and flew south if this information holds up into obolivian. this route between navigational points and back around after we have all the communications lost, transponding and right at the point of handoff between air traffic control. accidents are random. criminal acts happen at a
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certain time for a certain purpose. if we think back to 9/11 and you know when that first plane hit we were all agassed. when the second plane hit what did we all collectively think around the world? what did we think? we didn't think that was an accident. and this same event has some elements to that. you can't rule out an accident. you have to press like michael said. he is right on every point he made. you have to press that. to me this tilts a little bit to a human hands for a criminal purpose by somebody on that plane that has some knowledge of flight systems. and those leads got to be kicked around. the fbi is on it, the malaysian police. we may get answers there before we get them in the ocean. >> let me quickly put this in front of you. defense secretary chuck hagel said he is not ruling out terrorism. watch. >> on the terrorism question, i
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don't think at this point we can rule anything in or out. i think we have to continue to search as we are until we have more information we don't know. >> michael, quickly, yes or no, is there still a chance this plane was hijacked? >> you know, it seems to me, yes, of course. and the overwhelming probability right now from all the facts that we can possibly gather is that either the crew did it or there was some intervention with the crew because a plane doesn't suddenly turn -- these pilots are not really flying the planes. they are on flight management systems. for the plane to suddenly make this sharp turn and fly all that distance without communication, something was interfering with somebody. all of these -- we can't rule out a hijacking. >> i am going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time
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scott brown is getting a lot of attention lately. the former massachusetts senator changed his permanent residence to new hampshire and is already in campaign mode for that senate seat. we mentioned last night how he responded to critics who say he is not really a new hampshire guy. quote, do i have the best credentials? probably not, because you know whatever but i have long and strong ties to this state. cause you know whatever. jimmy fallon had fun with that last night. >> former massachusetts senator scott brown is running for senate in new hampshire. in a new interview talking about whether he had the best credentials. he said probably not cause you know whatever. [ laughter ] really? pretty nonchalant. not surprising when you check out a few campaign slogans.
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i'm scott brown, if you have time vote for me if not that's cool. next one scott brown for senate or whatever, whoever, forever. the last one is totally lazy like hey, sup? >> today brown tweeted fallon appreciate the help on campaign slogans. totes cool is trending in new hampshire. i'm glad he has a sense of humor because the fun is just getting started. i always say be the man with the plan
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finally tonight an offensive talking point about food stamps that just won't go away. >> can people collecting food stamps in colorado add marijuana to the shopping list? right now the answer is yes. >> supplemental nutritional
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program. buy beer program. >> studies show people on welfare are higher users of drugs that people not on welfare. >> it's offensive. it is not true but republicans are still trying to put that into law. in georgia the state's republican governor is expected to sign a bill allowing state workers to drug test food stamp recipients. the bill requires, quote, reasonable suspicion before the drug test can be ordered. what is reasonable suspicion? being poor? black? single mom? adding insult to injury this bill would force some poor people to pay for drug tests, $17 a piece. we saw this experiment before in florida and it failed miserably. just 2.6% of people signing up for welfare in florida failed the drug test. it is actually lower than the
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rate of drug use in the state at large. let's quit scapegoating people that need help. when you do that you show more about yourself than you do the people that will mostly overwhelmingly come out clean in a drug test. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. can we find the black box? let's play "hardball." good evening. let me start tonight with this spotting by a french satellite of 122 objects in the south indian ocean. in the 2 1/2 week search this is being called the best chance so far to answer with finality the course and ultimate crash site of the disappeared malaysian

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