in georgia. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from chicago. we have major news on the president's health care law. it's reached a big milestone so we will have news on that. but we begin tonight with breaking news on the chris christie bridge scandal. a report conducted by a lawyer hired by the christie administration has found the governor played no role in the bridge closures. >> we found that governor christie had no knowledge beforehand of this george washington bridge realignment idea and that he played no role whatsoever in that decision or the implementation of it. >> no role whatsoever?

but buried deep inside the report is this jaw-dropping news. christie was allegedly told about the lane closures while they were happening. if true, this account directly contradicts the governor's public statements on when he knew. the report says that david wildstein, the port authority official who oversaw the closures informed christie about it at a september 11th memorial while the closings were under way. that seems like a big deal, right, that the governor knew of the massive traffic? here is the answer. the report says the governor does not recall that conversation. so when did the governor find out? here is what he said just last month. >> who brought that to your attention? was it staff? >> no it was news accounts.

>> but you read them personally or did something bring to it your attention? >> no i read it. i read it in "the wall street journal." >> he read it in "the wall street journal"? here is that article, published october 1st, several weeks after the closings. so did he learn about the bridge on the october 1st date or on september 11th as wildstein suggests? either way, today's report says it was just a traffic issue that wouldn't have raised any red flags. >> the governor points out that a mention of a traffic issue in fort lee would not have been memorable or meaningful to the governor. it's a common occurrence to have traffic issues, problems. >> a common occurrence?

in fact, by september 11th, the day wildstein allegedly told christie about the traffic, this was anything but a common occurrence. beginning on september 9th, emergency workers had trouble responding to a missing child report and a cardiac arrest. police were calling the traffic a nightmare. and on that same day, a key christie official received an e-mail with the subject line "phone call fort lee sokolich regarding urgent matter of safety in fort lee." this was not a common occurrence. and today's report leaves us with more questions than answers. joining me now are steve kornacki and krystal ball. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks for having us, rev. >> so steve, christie was

apparently told about the lane closures while they were happening but doesn't remember it. your reaction. >> what i'm most interested in is how they deal with it in this report. because the way i've read this thing is everything that is in this report maybe we will find out when the u.s. attorney weighs in on this, when the legislative committee weighs in on this. many will find out that everything in here is true. but the way the report is written it editorializes. it uses loaded language. it's with its language constantly giving the benefit of the doubt to christie. you're talking about the claim, wildstein's claim that he talked to christie on september 11th about it. this is how the report then deals with it. it says that is a reference that the governor does not recall. and even if actually made would not have registered with the governor in any event because he knew nothing about this decision in advance and would not have considered another traffic issue at one of the bridges or tunnels to be memorable. an objective just the facts report is going to use some attribution here. the governor claims this. the governor said. this.

>> right. >> it's going to attempt to substantiate the governor's claims and what the governor is saying. it just asserts the governor does not recall. this it would not have registered with the governor. because he knew nothing about the decision. this language is consistent throughout the report. it's a kind of thing that it may be in the end everything in here is true. but the way it's written, it makes you suspicious. >> krystal, i hear you saying yes, right. does this undercut the credibility of the report, the language that is the framed in the report? >> absolutely. i had the exact same response. the way that christie is described throughout. he is welling with tears of emotion upon receiving the news. it says at one point he has conducted himself at every turn has someone who has nothing to hide. and when there is a question of he said-she said, as is the case with this particular

conversation that happened allegedly at the 9/11 memorial, the report always sides with team christie. and you can see this also in the allegations that steve reported on regarding mayor dawn zimmer and the allegation that sandy aid had been tied up in her approval of a development project. they really go out of their way not just to rebut her claims, but to thoroughly discredit her. and, again, that's another instance where she is saying these conversations happened. the people she is saying that the conversations happened with are of course denying it. and in every instance, they come down on the side of the people who are denying the conversation. so, again, in the game of he said-she said or he said-he said, they always come down in this report on the side of christie in a way that undercuts the credibility of the actual investigation that they claim went on here. >> now, steve, dave wildstein alleges that he personally told chris christie about the lane closures, but just listen to

what christie said about wildstein earlier this year. >> i have had no contact with david wild scene in a long time. a long time, well before the election. you know, i could probably count on one hand the number of conversations i've had with david since he worked at the port authority. i did not interact with david. >> is this just something else that the governor forgot about, steve? >> well, this is where it gets interesting, where i think it's important to remember we keep calling it a report. that's probably the best shorthand we can use for this. but the way i really look at this is basically, this is the christie camp's defense. >> yeah thinking was drawn up by his legal team. this is also the lawyers who are representing him as the u.s. committee conducts an investigation, as the legislative committee conducts an investigation. he is simultaneously being represented by the same law firm that conducted this independent

internal investigation. i think you need to keep that in mind. so you get to this question of wildstein's september 11th. okay, wildstein was not interviewed for this report. wildstein's lawyer put out a statement a month or two that got a lot of attention where he said in the statement that he said evidence exists that the governor knew at the time. everybody has been wondering since what does that mean. this report suggests that that's probably what wildstein was referring to. they haven't talked to wildstein, but wildstein through his lawyer has made it very clear he is interested in talking to the u.s. attorney. we know the u.s. attorney has talked to a lot of people or could talk to a lot of people whose christie's legal team were unable to reach. christie's team mentioned dawn zimmer. everybody around dawn zimmer not interviewed for them. documents wanted from dawn zimmer not provided. you know who has the documents? the u.s. attorney. you no whoa has talked to dawn zimmer? the u.s. attorney. people around here?

the u.s. attorney. i don't read this as any kind of authoritative report. this is christie's version of events, it's his defense. maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong, but he is not the judge of it. >> but krystal, if this is just christie's lawyers and a christie report by those defending him, let's remember the man heading up the investigation himself has an interesting -- has interesting ties to christie. randy maestro is the former chief of staff to rudy giuliani, also happens to be a major ally of christie's. but furthermore, at least $1 million in legal fees for this report will be paid by state taxpayers in new jersey. so this is not an objective report, even appears to be. the taxpayers are paying for this report. >> it's definitely not an objective report. it shouldn't be viewed as an objective report. it should not be viewed as an independent investigation.

it's not. it's an internal investigation by lawyers hired by chris christie, and there are other independent stlaegs are actually occurring. maybe they'll find the same thing. and i don't think it's absurd to think that christie didn't know in advance what was going on, didn't personally orchestrate the bridge lane closures. but this supposed investigation is very certain that he knew nothing, that he had absolutely no involvement given the fact that they in this report cannot come to any conclusion about what the motive behind the closures actually were. i don't see how you can be so confident saying chris christie, there is no way he was involved when you still don't know why the bridges were actually -- why those lanes were shut down. >> all right, steve. let me ask this, then. if christie didn't know anything in advance, then what could have been the motive of christie's aides? >> the one piece of new

information that is interesting is they talk about how bridget kelly, they say in this that bridget kelly checked in with the christie campaign, with matt mauers on august 12th, the day before she sent out that e-mail we all know about, "time for some traffic for fort lee." she checked in with him to make sure that it was correct, that mark sokolich, the mayor of fort lee hadn't endorsed christie. so it suggests some kind of connection there. but then they also point out, and that is true, this has been in the record for a while now that wildstein had as far back as 2010-2011 talked about the idea of being bothered by these lanes, wanting to -- fort lee shouldn't get these special lanes. a real interesting thing in here is so -- after bill baroni, the other appointee at the port authority testified in december, he goes on and on of the injustice of fort lee having

three deindicated lanes, the report says baroni's took the authority director regina offguard. she didn't expect him to be obsessed with the lanes like this. she expected him to say something completely different. so this report is telling you christie's team was really caught offguard by what bill baroni said. we know a week after bill baroni gave that testimony, chris christie gave a press conference where he said he was bothered by the special lanes for fort lee. i think he said he was steamed by it. he used some kind of term like that. so it was on his mind too. at some point. >> well, we're going to continue, have a lot of questions on. this steve kornacki and krystal ball, stay with us. coming up, chris christie's camp blames former aide bridget kelly for the bridge closings, but are they just looking for a scapegoat? more on the latest revelations in the bridgegate scandal. and it's been a month since this little girl disappeared from a homeless shelter in

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of bridget kelly, effective immediately. of i've terminated her employment because she lied to me there is no justification for ever lying to a governor. stunned by the abject stupidity. that was obviously a lie, proved that that was a lie. bridget clearly did not tell me the truth. >> that was governor christie on january 9th, announcing in very personal terms that he fired bridget kelly for her alleged role in the bridge scandal. today the christie review again put the blame on kelly and publicized new details about her private life. the review says kelly and christie's campaign manager bill stepien became, quote,

personally involved last year. why would that matter? because the review suggests that relationship have somehow led to the lane closings. quote, events in kelly's personal life may have had some bearing on her subjective motivations and state of mind, saying, goat, her first known communication about the lane realignment in mid-august 2013 occurred around the time that a personal relationship with stepien had cooled, apparently at stepien's behest. what exactly are they implying here about bridget kelly? they're talking about her state of mind after the end of a personal relationship? it seemed christie merely laying out the facts or are they trying to find a scapegoat? back with me now are steve kornacki and crystal ball.

steve, you've been highlighting this angle in your reporting today. what strikes you about this? >> a couple of things do. one is we know that they didn't talk to bridget kelly. we know that they didn't talk to bill stepien. now, if you call around you know in new jersey political world people, it's sort of common knowledge that everybody says yeah, they had some kind of relationship. but it's one of those things that is hearsay. it's a rumor. it's speculation in new jersey politics. but this report just asserts it as fact. and i wonder where a report like this could -- how a report like this could have served something like that as a fact without talking to kelly and stepien,the two people who are in this relationship. and the other thing is yeah, it's a little surprising to me that the language you just quoted really seems to be implying that, hey, bridget kelly was essentially dumped by bill stepien. and in her emotional anguish,

for some reason turned to david wildstein and concocted this plan for some purpose having to do with the breakup with stepien. all of these suggestions in here about bridget kelly not just in terms of this relationship supposedly, but throughout this report suggests that she is unstable, emotional. and it's a level of scrutiny about her personality and character and emotions that they don't subject anybody else to in this report. >> you know, krystal, this is troubling. i mean, this suggestly stuff. >> yeah. >> they're talking about this lady's personal life. and we're being told they knew when this alleged personal relationship began, when it ended, and how and why it ended without talking to the two people involved. i mean, that's really, really outrageous. >> this part actually makes me really angry, because to me it seems like the report goes out of its way to paint bridget

kelly as this erratic, emotional woman who had been just scorned by bill stepien. and so she would be in a condition to do anything. she is described as nervous. she is described as weepy. that piece really, really bothers me, because it's an attack that many women will be familiar with, an attempt to undermine their credibility. and the only person that i would say comes close to the same sort of scrutiny in this report is also mayor dawn zimmer, who they say her subjective perceptions don't match reality, and they go out of their way again to discredit her claims and portray her as really unreliable and erratic. so the treatment of the women in this report to me is very angering and very troubling. they try to draw this connection in the report as you were pointing out, reverend, that maybe the lane closings had something to do with the end of this personal relationship. they just assert that.

they have absolutely no evidence for that. and to me, there is no real reason to include any details about her personal relationship with bill stepien in this report without it being somehow directly linked with the subject of their investigation. i think it's inappropriate. >> you know, steve, today the lawyer leading this review seemed to be repeati ipreemptiv attacking the credibility of bridget kelly and david wildstein if they were to ever speak out. listen to this. >> even if eventually they do come forward, you have to evaluate the credibility of what they say under the circumstances at the time of when they say it. we have an old maxim in investigations, we lawyers. witnesses lie, documents don't. >> so steve, you've got them

talking about her personal lives, even though they never talked to them. you have them talking about two of the main players in this, including bridget kelly, casting doubt on their credibility if they were to come forward. all of this from an objective review? >> i think that moment right there illustrates perfectly the weirdness of the situation here, the sort of two conflicting hats that randy mastro is wearing in all this. we have known for a long time that david wildstein's lawyer is looking to get some kind of a deal with the u.s. attorney, the federal prosecutors. he has made that clear, if you give him a deal, he'll talk. i might be quoting exactly there. we presume that bridget kelly would like some kind of a deal too, although it's not been made clear like that. so potentially, now keep in mind this is the law firm, randy mastro's law firm that has already been retained by the governor's office to help facilitate in the investigation

that the u.s. attorney is conducting. if bridget kelly or david wildstein were to cut a deal with federal prosecutors, were to provide some new information to them that required a defense from christie, this is the law firm that will be involved in that. and this is the same law firm that is doing the independent -- >> quote, independent, internal investigation. at a certain point, if you're investigating christie's office and investigating him, what do you do if you're his lawyer and you dig up something that is embarrassing to your client? >> you know, the other thing i find interesting, crystal, in the review it also talks about christie's meetings with top aides in early january after the scandal really exploded in public. and it says it was an emotional session with the governor welling up with tears expressed shock at the revelations, directed kelly's immediate firing for lying to him, and

also decided to sever ties with stepien. from what all of us have seen of chris christie, can you imagine him welling up with tears? >> you know, reverend, he is the real victim in all of this, obviously. and i think that language speaks to the way the whole report is colored. he is presented in this very favorable light. he is shocked. he is victimized by his staff who took advantage of him and did these things that he had no knowledge of, and then lied to him. so he is welling up with tears. there is nothing in the report that gets to what would have given bridget kelly and david wildstein the idea that this would be an acceptable thing to do. and i think that's one of the questions that is still outstanding. the culture in that office that would lead those two individuals to believe that this was something they should go ahead and do. >> steve kornacki and krystal ball, thank you both for your time. >> thanks, reverend.

>> and be sure to watch "up with steve kornacki weekends" at 8:00 a.m. eastern, and you can catch krystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern, both here on msnbc. still ahead, governor scott walker says he wants to make it easy to vote in wisconsin. so why is he back to trying to cut back the voting hours? plus, the desperate search for a little girl who may be in the hands of a suspected murderer. stay with us. [ ambient street noise ]

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uninsured are, relatively less sophisticated, less comfortable with forms, less educated. >> he thinks uninsured people aren't educated? can't figure out how to sign up for health care? let me educate congressman cassidy. all kinds of people don't have health insurance. in fact, 40% of uninsured americans have some college education, and 34% graduated from high school. being uninsured isn't about education, it's about affordability and the affordable care act is changing that. >> in what looks like some new age health coverage conga, candace mcrae celebrates her enrollment under the affordable care act. it's been more than a year since she had health insurance because her employer doesn't provide it. >> i've been without health insurance as of may -- it will

be five years. >> as of today, sue fraser will not have to go another year without it because she just found out -- >> i'm eligible for free health insurance. >> i haven't had insurance before since i can remember. so this is really a godsend. >> maybe that will help educate republicans. this law is helping millions of real people, and it's here to stay. joining me now are karen finney and ryan grim. thank you both for being here. >> hey, rev. >> thanks, reverend. >> karen, we know enrollment in these exchanges started slow. but it really picked up speed in december and has really taken off this month. 1.8 million signups in march. and we're still going. what does this law do to the law's critics? >> i think if we remember back to the beginning of this process, despite the glitches with the website, this was exactly what president obama and so many others predicted based on the experience that they had from looking at the massachusetts model, that the closer you got to the deadline,

the more you saw that number going up. and i think it also says to the critics something else that we have known all along, that the more people that learn about the affordable care act and what's in it and what it can do for them and their families, the more they like it. that doesn't mean there still doesn't need to be changes made here and there. but the point is fundamentally, i think it's very clear americans want this to go through. >> ryan, let's go back to congressman cassidy a minute. he said that the uninsured were, quote, less educated. he has walked that back with this statement, quote, the uninsured from all segments of society, this includes the more and the less educated, our policies must meet people where they are. obamacare is one size fits all model lacks the basic measure of compassion. the president's law lacks compassion. i mean, what's your reaction to that, ryan? >> well, it's just false. it's not a one size fits all policy.

i don't know if he doesn't know what is actually in the law. i know that there was a lot of talking about everybody needs to read the bill. maybe representative cassidy hasn't read it. but there are these exchanges that now six million people have sign upped for, and there will be another enrollment period coming up in november. but there is also a medicaid expansion that the louisiana governor is blocking. but that's a different size for a different population that would have allowed millions of people to sign up who can't now. and it's true. louisiana's illiteracy rate among adults is something between 15 and 20%. so it's true, there are a lot of people in louisiana who can't read. but i don't know what proposal cassidy has to deliver health care or health insurance to those people. it's just a pretty confusing series of statements coming out of him. >> karen, let's go back to this six million people that have signed up. this is huge because it means

that the obama administration has reached its goal and still going up. so this is big. what will this do to the opposition and the adversaries of the law? and what does it mean that they have reached six million? >> i think what you're going see from the opposition is what we've seen all along, rev. they are probably gathered somewhere here in washington now in some back room planning, you know, their next step and how they're going try to take this -- take the law, repeal it, replace it, you know, all of that. and i'm being a little bit funny. in all seriousness, that has been their agenda time and time again. you're seeing the kind of spending that they're doing against candidates at the local level for the house and the senate, trying to use the affordable care act as a wedge issue against people, which says to me democrats need to stand up for this legislation and stand up for six million people who now have access to health insurance who didn't. and why wouldn't we want more people in the system?

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political venom, and now it achieved this goal and still going up, because you have four days, ryan, it gives you the kind of climate, political climate that we're dealing with. >> right. and it's also deeply unoriginal. democrat joe manchin might sue him for plagiarism for that. he famously shot the climate change bill when he was running for senate. but that's west virginia. that's coal country. six million people, that's an awful lot of people who have coverage through the exchanges. and one of the rights' critiques, they've been throwing around this number that only 14% of those people didn't have insurance before they sign up for this. let's assume that is true. 14% of six million, that's roughly a million people. that's just one signup period. a million people who were living with the anxiety of not having health insurance now have health insurance. and the other five million have a much better regulated set of policies that can't be canceled when they get sick, et cetera,

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we're back with the desperate search for a little girl who may be in the hands of an accused murderer. 8-year-old relisha rudd has been missing for over a month. she was living with her mother and stepfather at a homeless shelter in washington, d.c. the prime suspect in her disappearance is this man, 51-year-old khalil tatum, the

janitor at the homeless shelter. late last month, relisha's mother asked tatum to take the little girl home with him. that same day, surveillance video from a hotel show relisha walking down a hallway with tatum, carrying bags and entering a room. there have been no confirmed sightings of relisha since march 1. but last week police did find tatum's wife dead at a maryland hotel, killed by a single gunshot to the head. it's been a month. relisha has not been found and khalil tatum is at large with a $70,000 reward attached to his name. but even as the search continues, there are troubling questions about how authorities handled the case and whether they missed opportunities to save her. joining me now is darika wilson who founded the black and missing foundation, a nonprofit

organization that helps minority families find missing loved ones, and pet tula dvorak, columnist for "the washington post" who has been writing about this story. thank you for both being here. >> thank you for having us. >> derika, you are a former police officer. what are officials doing right now to try to find this little girl? >> this is such a very tragic and such a bizarre case. but today this case has taken yet another twist. they're no longer searching for missing relisha. they're now changing it over to a recovery operation. they have reason to believe that this young girl was murdered. chief lanier held a press conference today and out of that press conference, they are aconsuming that she is presumed deceased. we are not giving up hope on the fact that relisha is not alive,

and we're going to keep searching. every day time is of the essence. but it's getting slimmer and slimmer with us not knowing where she is and the vehicles that was associated in her disappearance have been recovered. >> wow. now petula, today police were searching washington park where they revealed some really chilling details about the investigation. watch this. >> on march 2nd, we know that mr. tatum purchased among other items a carton of black 42 gallon self-tie contractor trash bags within the district of columbia. not long after that purchase, mr. tatum was in the area of the aquatic gardens for a period of time. we cannot ignore the possibility that he may have killed her. >> now, these are chilling details. and you have been on this story, you wrote some very compelling

pieces to your credit. and you wrote in your column that, quote, relisha rudd deserved better. she deserved a social safety net that recognized her life was chaotic, unstable and dangerous and caught her. what could they have done to help this little girl? >> absolutely you're right. she had so many -- there were so many opportunities to help this little girl. social workers knew that she was abused when she was 2. the school knew that she had a spotty attendance record, 30 days missed. the workers at the homeless shelter knew that this janitor was giving gifts to lots of little girls. they weren't supposed to do that. he wasn't supposed to do that. there were lots of signs. but i'll tell you, this story goes back to the very beginning about their situation, and that is homelessness. if this family had a home, they would have had that social safety net that would have noticed she wasn't in school,

that would have noticed she wasn't at home, she wasn't at the places she was playing. that's where we ultimately failed this family, a lack of affordable housing. >> derrica, you're shaking your head. when i look at the facts in 2007, social workers concluded relisha may have been physically abused. they also found evidence of neglect in 2010, saying the home was filthy and littered with trash and cigarette butts, the children were left unsupervised at the shelter, and relisha had more than 30 school absences that officials say were excused because the mother said relisha was ill. i mean, why did nobody respond to these red flags? >> well, not only did the system fail relisha, child protective services, but the parents failed relisha as well. >> right. >> the mother and the grandmother, they were in on this. they allowed this man to pose as relisha's doctor, allowing him to send letters to the school to

get her out of school. that is a failure right there, to allow a complete stranger to take your daughter. i mean, human trafficking, and we talk about this so often. >> yes. >> human trafficking is very prevalent in the united states. and i went on record today to say that honestly, i think she sold her daughter. i really think she sold her daughter to this predator. and what we're also not talking about is the fact that khalil tatum has a very extensive criminal history in virginia. under his government-issued name, you know, if you run khalil tatum, you're not going to come up with anything. but under his government-issued name, he has a criminal record and he should have never been working at this shelter around those children. >> well, petula, we're out of time. we do not know whether she was sold or not. but we certainly are going to follow this story, and we

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