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officials say those improvements will make a passenger's trip through the airport easier. that's it for this edition of "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. >> show me your hands, now! >> it's a turf war over middle america's most toxic drug. >> got meth, brother. >> some will do anything to get it. >> smoking in a methamphetamine lab. you think that's pretty smart. >> doesn't lie. >> hometown team of elite cops. >> don't try any funny business. >> will do anything to find it. >> you are going to jail. >> oh, my lord. >> they are the methbusters.
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>> this could get ugh l ugly pr quick. ♪ >> franklin county, missouri, is a picture postcard place of rolling hills, quiet farms and main street parades. but beneath the all-american surface, a battle rages. >> we're headed there now. >> against one of the most addictive drugs known to man -- meth. the franklin couldn't tu narcotics enforcement unit is on the front line of that battle. today they are in nearby st. louis on a stakeout. >> they are going to be headed
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that way now. look for a vehicle. if you don't see anything, sit tight and i will call it out to you. >> we are set up. >> sounds good. >> they plan to follow a local dealer back to franklin county and take down a meth syndicate. detective cody lucas doesn't like the setup. it's vulnerable. >> you have three vehicles trying to roll surveillance without getting popped downtown. red necks and pickup trucks. >> about block away. okay. two people in the bad guy car. >> lucas started out as an under cover cop before joining the unit as a detective i have. he's here backing up detective corporate ral goth scott briggs, and tom blanken ship and tom murlly. >> did you see it? >> i have eyes on them. about half of the back glass, the top of the car. >> the deal they have been waiting for is on.
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>> they are in a dark, gray colored car and just got in the driver's side backseat. >> two or four door? >> four door because he got in the backseat behind the driver. >> good. >> they have the windows down, arm hanging out. okay. they are leaving. target's leaving now in the rental car headed directly at me. >> all right. we are catching up with you. maybe we should go up and around, turn around -- >> but something has gone wrong. >> he just busted a u-turn the. he is coming back at burly. >> burly's going to have to get him. >> he is on him. >> he knows we're here, bud. might as well take him. >> he knows, might as well pull him over. okay. let's take him here. >> show your hands! >> throw the keys out. got a gun? >> i got it on your head, bub bachl get those hands out of there. you better not have a gun on you, son. you got a gun on you? keep those lands where i can see
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them. get on the ground. ♪ anything that will stick or hurt me, bombs, grenades, anything. step on out. >> you know what i want. >> after days of surveillance, today's bust yields a bag of over-the-counter cold pills. >> there it is. got anything else? >> no. >> but these pills are the first chain in a link that ends in meth.
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a toxic brew turns this medicine in to meth. >> i will make you meth in 45 minutes. >> sergeant jason grellner is top dog for one of the largest narcotic unit funded by state federal law enforcement. >> i started off my college career as a chemical engineer and ended a cop breaking my poor parents heart. >> his hand picked team may look less than imposing, more down home count home country boys. >>. >> you have the right to remain
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silent. anything you say can be and will be used against you in a court of law. you understand that, ma'am. >> i will put them up against any other narcotics unit in the country. >> you have meth, brother. >> the team isn't chasing ordinary drug users. >> the sores they look like meth sores to me, bro. i have seen a lot of them. you can tell them by their twitching and tweaks. >> they are often paranoid, wired, armed and dangerous, not the people you want to handle explosive chemicals. >> a lot of the investigations we get involved in are because the case catches fire or explodes. >> the chemical cocktail used to make meth is highly flammable and can ignite in an instant. >> in 2002, i made a mistake after working 30 hours straight an opened a bottle i shouldn't have opened. >> grellner lost a quarter of
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his lung capacity in the accident. the damage was permanent. >> ride. >> though missouri leads the country in reported incidents, meth labs are on the rise nationwide, mostly in rural areas. >> rural areas generally don't have the size of law enforcement that the urban areas do. it's pretty easy to go to some far off space and fire up a meth lab. >> don't try any funny business. >> for grellner he the battle against meth means controlling the main ingredient pseudo ephedrine. >> you will make a mess but it won't be meth methamphetamine. >> since 2005 the team used a regional database that tracks purchases of drugs using pseudo
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ephedrine. but savvy drug dealers found a work around creating a black market for cold pills. they get multiple people to make small purchases and then a bill broker sells the pills to method cooks in bulk. the suspects the unit caught in st. louis with cold pills were just that, pill brokers. ♪ >> you are being charged with conspiracy to po tess pseudo ephedrine knowing it would be used to manufacture meth. if you are not the meth cook or have anything to deal with meth. you are just a pill broker. how much did they pay you?
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>> $50 for each one. >> a franklin county meth syndicate has been buying from this broker over a year. >> how many boxes do you think you have given him in the last 12 months. >> to be honest a hundred. >> it wouldn't surprise you if it was almost as high a 1,000 boxes. that wouldn't surprise you, would it? so you have made 45,000 off of them. >> pretty good business. >> the pill broker cuts a deal. hoping for a reduced sentence he will help the unit take down one of the meth syndicates. most of the unit's cases start with suspicious purchases in the pill-tracking database. scott finds a suspect wanted on assault charges who has also been buying a suspicious amount
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of cold pills. it could be worth pursuing. >> i'm driving. where are we going, brother, man. >> saint claire. >> sounds good. >> last name nash. has parents for his arrest. we will arrest him on his warrants and then talk to him about his pseudoephedrine purchases. >> local police have taken care of the first step. >> that's who i was looking for. >> look here. >> oh, man. oh, man. >> doh! >> pull up your drawers. >> have you checked him yet for warrants? >> yeah. how are you doing? >> who's car. >> nashs. >> uh-oh. >> what do you mean what did you do. >> relax. relax. mr. nash. >> i'm detective rigs i work for the narcotics unit. who was driving the car today?
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>> i was. >> but you didn't have a license? >> no. >> okay. >> after a few minutes of interrogation, nash confesses to buying pseudoephedrine. >> i bought a box. >> where is it? >> where is it? >> yeah. what did you do with it? >> it's gone. >> did you sell it? >> yeah. >> in the meth trade people like nash are called smurfs. their job to gather pills and sell them to broker and cooks. >> how about we talk in the ac away from everybody's eyes. you want to do that. >> book him he's ready to talk. i'm going to let the other two gochl i don't need them. >> nash is ready to talk. now detectives need to figure out if he is leading them to a meth lab or on a wild goose chase.
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♪ >> cody and scott have arrested randy nash who confessed to buying and selling pseudoephedrine for meth production. >> where do i find the meth lab, the shake and bake lab? where is it? >> i haven't been there for a while. >> describe it to me. how do you get there? >> why should i do that, man? i think, i think, i think you are going to railroad me and i will be [ bleep ]. >> you want to help with the 178 we might be able to do, that a bond reduction, an or. >> a lot of things. >> you give me information first, that's how the game is played. start talking. >> you go past red barn and stuff. it is off to the side where you can't see the place. it is down in -- >> is it in a residence. >> no, it is in a house.
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>> that's what, a house. >> are you sure? >> i haven't been there in a while. >> how long is a little while. >> month or so. >> one two three four five six seven eight nine, about nine. >> were they going or -- >> they were going. all going. that's when they do it. go out there right now. >> he does it more at night. >> the part i seen, yes. >> who's this person's name who lives there? curious if we know who they are. >> i'm bad at names. i'm good at faces, but bad at names. i have had lead poison, hit by truck. so i have short-term memory loss, man. ♪ >> appreciate you working with us today. >> hope you work with me. >> like briggs told you, if we
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go out there and you are not feeding us a line -- >> i bet you find something out there. >> okay. man if we do he's going to help you out. he's keeping his word. he's not going to lie to you. >> i guarantee you will find jars, all kind of stuff, probably. >> we'll find something. >> nash is a franklin county local and like scott and cody he is married and has kids but their paths are completely different. >> i don't want my kids around it. i don't know, man. i done it when i was younger. i did my first line when i was 10 years old. ♪ one thing leads to another, and then bam. this is where i'm at. the stuff does a lot of damage to people. tears your life apart. ♪
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>> [ bleep ] pills. >> some people i feel sorry for. others i don't. their world is completely different world than ours. he's been around this stuff for so long and hasn't made the choice to get away from it. i really can't feel too sorry, but we all make our own choices. the just hard to imagine living the way these people live. >> over 35 years of witnessing the darkness of the drug world, don has learned the value of bonding with his team. >> going together. >> especially cody. >> what are you doing muttly? >> cody's just about my best friend. >> that dog is a good judge of character. >> he's a blast.
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>> red neck. >> oh, no. [ laughter ] >> here he comes. >> sure, stevie. [ screaming ] [ laughter ] >> i didn't do it. >> it's like a family. anyone of us at any one time would push the other out of the way and take a bullet, without a doubt. ♪ >> i have the tune in my head now. ♪ >> cody and scott follow up on nash's tip, and head to the location where nash says there's a meth lab. >> i knew that she was busy ♪ and my timing wasn't right ♪ but i said mom pleetz can we go ♪ because tomorrow's the last night ♪
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>> guys it's been 15 years since i tried to sing that one. ♪ we got information that the individual is manufacturing methamphetamine. he's had several one-pot methods going at one time. this individual is allowing people to use his property to manufacture meth. in return, he obtains a little bit of finished meth for his addiction. you never know about these people if they are setting you up, or if you are walking in to a trap. you just never know. >> if nash's tip is right, and there are nine active meth labs in one house, this could get explosive. like two deals in one. salesperson #2: actually, getting a great car with 42 highway miles per gallon makes it like two deals in one. salesperson #1: point is there's never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel. avo: during the first ever volkswagen tdi clean diesel event get a great deal on a jetta tdi.
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anybody else here? who's your girlfriend? >> kim. >> my guys are watching your back door. >> who's been coming over and hanging out up here. >> nobody. >> and cooking meth. >> nobody. >> well, information is that people come over here at night to one-pot shakes and bakes. >> ain't nobody. >> i want to verify there is no meth lab and i can take you off the list. you are not going to let me walk through. it is not adding up. let me walk through and i will leave. that's how it works. >> there's nothing here. >> they are not going to let us in. i can't do it. >> nash's tip alone is not enough for a search warrant. so they can't go inside. but the team recognizes the homeowner and his girlfriend from previous meth-related run ins.
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>> there's probably something there. we just didn't go on the right night. >> no doubt there is something there. they didn't want us in the house. we will get them another time. >> scott has since arrested both suspects for manufacturing meth. >> now go home and go to bed. ♪ >> for cody, going home means spending some time at his second job, policing the tiny town of edgar springs, missouri. >> there was two things i wanted to do, be in the music industry and i couldn't do that. i had to do a real job it would be law enforcement. i started out playing in a band. i traveled and played music
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almost 11 years. >> those were the days. ♪ ♪ >> but he settled down back in his hometown with his wife and seven kids. >> the place i'm at my calmest hour is when i'm with my family. >> oh, my. >> man, look at you guys go. ♪ >> if i didn't have my down time at home and away from everything, lord have mercy on the thugs is all i can say. >> oh, there you go. i know. he got it as soon as it hit the water. ♪ my wife worries a lot. a lot of long hours. she knows how dangerous it is. >> it all comes with the job, with the territory and you just
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cope with it. i have to keep the family together while he is working and doing what he does. >> good job, little man. does that make you happy. >> it used to be that i -- i shouldn't say this, but i'd be like i don't need to wear kevlar. what are the odds of getting him. i do things a lot different now. i couldn't imagine my poor wife trying to raise seven kids by herself. i take all of my precautions. >> they are keeping people safe, looking out for my future, my kids' future. ♪ ♪ >> for cody and the team, keeping people safe often comes
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down to watching and waiting. >> like he was waiting to see if the coast was clear and now he's running. >> some days they watch low-level drug deals to establish patterns. >> the old boy is running back up. they just did something hand to hand. kind of a hand pass. >> this isn't our dumb white boys. >> others go straight for the main target. like suspected method meth cook dylan carter who has nine felony convictions, an outstanding warrant on meth-related charges and a history of violence. scott briggs has been tracking carter for nine months. now his search may finally be over. >> yo! >> a suspect matching carter's description and three accomplices have been spotted at a nearby farm. scott has been running surveillance on the property. >> okay.
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so we did a drive by. i drew. this this barn's gone, right? reference is gone. >> getting a clear view will be challenging. the farm is shrouded by trees and underbrush. >> the shed is 12x15, tlabts. wooden, back in the woods. you can barely see it from the road. >> these are the only spots. >> the locationing is tricky but the real challenge could be the suspects themselves. >> there's your -- >> neighbors report hearing guns fired repeatedly in the night. four suspects, armed, dangerous and bunkered in a property wired with multiple security cameras. pulling off a raid this risky will take more men and a lot more muscle.
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the death toll from the mudslide in washington state has climbed to 21. 15 have been identified. a week after the disaster dozens are missing. search crews are back in the air looking for the airline off the coast of western australia. one pilot says he saw at least four orange objects which he called promising leads but there's no indication they are from the plane. now back to our msnbc special. ♪ scott and jason meet with franklin county's emergency response team or ert to help to plan a raid on a suspected large-scale meth lab. the ert has already made two
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surveillance sweeps. >> been there twice in like two and a half weeks. both times they were outside between 1:00 and 4:00 in the morning. they come out shooting at odd hours of the night. >> the raid will require ert snipers with night vision, high-powered weapons and the element of surprise. >> it has to be dark to give some cover. so the plan that we came up with is put the sniper observers bring a team in the woods around midnight. once we bring that containment in there they will effect that arrest. >> scott will step in once the human threat is gone to make sure the meth lab doesn't pose a chemical one. the ert needs one more week of intense planning to pull off this risky operation. okay. >> all right. we will talk in the morning then. >> all right.
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♪ >> while the ert works on the raid plan, scott gets back to his case load. >> i knew when i was a young child that i was going to be a police officer and i was going to work in this county. since i grew up here, i was coming back here. i like every aspect of this job. >> a bag here might be some leads. >> oh, my lord, the stench coming out of there will kill you. it's fast paced, things are always fluid and changing. >> i haven't bought a box in six months. >> i was talking to somebody new. >> i have been talk doing this 12 years people don't try meth
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and then quit. >> if i had a job in a factory like most people around here, that would drive me up a wall. i couldn't do it. >> as second in demand of the franklin county narcotics unit, scott oversees multiple investigations every day. >> what are you doing there, super sleuth? >> scott's incredible. tenacious, never stops. >> come here. why do you smell like either. >> i don't smell like ether. >> always a pleasure working with you guys. >> it is 12:38 a.m. i have been on the clock -- about 16 hours straight. >> a mary rid father of two scott suffers from a kidney disease and had a transplant in 2011. >> as i was recuperating i was
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really wanting to get back to work. i was calling the guys and checking in and finding out what investigations they were working on. some of them quit answering their phones when they saw it was me. felt like a puppy chained to the post. >> we're looking for a wanted person and you picked him up in your car. >> went to the gas station. >> you told me you just dropped him off. are you lying to me. >> tonight scott uncovers a portable meth lab. >> this is a one pot meth lab. it has the solvents that you can see the chunks of material are the lithium batteries that are spent. >> all the chemical reaction that makes meth is over. >> it contains a couple of grams of methamphetamine in this liquid right now.
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officers led by t.j. wilde. >> scott is on hand as lead detective and meth lab expert. >> here's the four people we are looking for. we have to know them on sight. be sure you know who they are. number one christopher grant, white male, number two dylan carter white male, crystal haney, black female. soon dra, white female. detective briggs relayed their investigation uncovered a meth lab in the property. residence possess a military style rifle, handgun and some form of.22 caliber firearm. a neighbor has also reported the suspect shooting the handgun at odd hours of the night. the same time frame we will be there. >> in short, it could be a tough night. niece.
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>> it's go time for the raid on dylan carter and his accomplices. scott briggs and emergency response leader t.j. wilde are stationed in the woods. while the surveillance team moves in on the property. >> we're probably three-quarters of a mile away from the target location now. they are probably within 200 yards or less. >> the surveillance team is trying to confirm the suspects are on site without blowing cover. otherwise, dylan carter and the
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other targets could escape, or worse, start a shootout. >> after two hours, the lead sniper reports in. >> we got intelligence back. now we are going to wait and see, and see what information they can get as far as if one of our wanted suspects is there. >> the snipers need to confirm one suspect home before storming the property. >> there's -- most of our surveillance people are in position where they can get around the house and contain any suspects that may leave when this goes down. >> scott has been tracking carter for nine months, but these are the longest hours of his investigation.
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>> somebody's outside. >> 10-4. >> movement at the house and in the shed behind there. >> yes, thank you. >> something's fixing to happen for us here. >> they may start cooking methamphetamine tonight. that would be what i was hoping for that we get all four warrants arrested and then a meth lab, all in one night. >> close. close, close, close. >> the snipers have spotted one female in the house and one male outside. but still no positive i.d.s. >> somebody was outside, and that person is either back in the barn or still out in the grass. the team leaders were watching him and then the one on the
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north side lost sight. >> somebody is out walking. >> is that the guy that was at the shed? >> i don't know. >> finally the call they have been waiting for. >> get them. >> the surveillance team smells toxic fumes from an active meth lab. >> it's going right now. >> that's what we wanted. >> we're in position. >> there's a lab in the shed. there's a strong odor coming from it. he wants us to pull in the drive, give 20 seconds notice so they can be out of the woods the same time we are pulling in the drive and get it done. ♪ >> sheriffs office! come out with your hands up. do it now! >> one of the suspects locks
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himself in the shed where the meth lab is set up. >> then sets the building on fire. visible smoke coming from the building. >> with all of the chemicals brewing, the shed is a giant bomb. >> coming forward. >> scott races to put out the fire before the lab explodes. >> holy [ bleep ]. >> i got the fire out. >> fire's out. >> the team arrests christopher grant and his girlfriend sandra. but dylan carter, the one guy they really wanted, is nowhere to be found. miles per tank. salesperson #2: actually, we're throwing in a $1,000 fuel reward card. we've never done that. that's why there's never been a better time to buy a passat tdi clean diesel. husband: so it's like two deals in one? avo: during the salesperson #2: first ever exactly. volkswagen tdi
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accomplices at an active meth lab. now scott needs information. >> turn around. you're sandra lothridge, correct? >> yes. >> a lot of people have been cooking dope here. >> i don't know anything about that. >> you want to play games? >> i don't play no games with police. >> you're going to jail. good morning, mr. grant. do you wish to talk to me? yes or no? okay. who you did the fire start? smoking in a methamphetamine lab? do you think that's pretty smart? where is dylan carter? tell me where dylan is at. i need to get him off the streets before he hurts somebody. is he armed? what's he armed with? a .45 pistol and assault rifle? what kind? high point? i want to know where he's at. what if he kills a family? what if he kills one of my officers? you're going to live with that. >> grant wants to deal.
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he's willing to trade carter's location for his girlfriend's release. >> let her walk. >> i can't promise you anything right here right now. >> let her walk. >> i get dylan and then we talk. huh-uh. until i get dylan in handcuffs, no, i'm not promising you anything. you got ten minutes to decide what you're doing with the rest of your life. >> scott knows when to press hard for information and when to back off. he takes a break to update the ert team leader. >> he's between here and sullivan. that's all we know. i'm going to let him sit for a minute until he comes back down. >> he's about to cave. >> i know. >> scott returns and hammers grant again for carter's location. >> come on, chris. i need the name. i'm on a time crunch, bud. >> me, you and her. >> come here. come here. i need it now. no more stalling. give me the location. >> what do you want me to do, babe? >> what motel? >> get it over with.
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>> super 8, man. >> what room? >> room 302. >> okay. okay. we got the location on him. super 8 room 302 in sullivan right now. >> the ert heads to the motel. they will wait for carter to come out to avoid a shootout or potential hostage situation. scott stays at the scene to neutralize the meth lab. >> and here's where he jumped out the window. there we go. >> toxic fumes have finally dissipated, allowing him to safely examine the evidence. >> the tank. >> propane tanks are used to store the anhydrous ammonia needed to make meth.
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>> this is a [ bleep ] tank. >> this is no little one-pot meth lab. tonight's raid has shut down a substantial operation. but for scott it's only half a victory without dylan carter. >> i wanted to see that all four suspects were in custody. it was kind of a letdown to find out that only two were there. but i think that we will be able to take the other two into custody sometime later today. >> for now, all scott can do is take the evidence back to the office and wait.
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>> hello. yeah. >> we have dylan. >> okay. >> here's how it's kind of unfolding. at 10:45, there was a short pursuit. he crashed into a light pole right here between cracker barrel and jack in the box. dylan got out, threw a gun down in the ditch. walked over into the baseball park and they surround eed him. he gave up without further incident. >> after a nine month investigation, dylan carter is finally in custody. now scott needs the hard evidence to keep him behind bars. carter's smashed car has been
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towed to a local lot. >> that's nice. i don't think i could ever carry that much money around since i got married and have two kids. that is a professional handcuff. smith and wesson handcuff key. you always need one of those when you're running from the police. that is a handle off a propane cylinder. this is actually a one-pot methamphetamine lab. the meth is trapped in that liquid somewhere. they want the liquid. and they'll extract the meth out of the liquid. there's probably close to 30 grams there. about an ounce. about $3,000. >> drugs, money and a possible portable meth lab. everything scott was hoping to find. >> how are you?
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you want to go back to the station and do it, though? >> yeah. that's fine. >> scott and lieutenant johnson of the sullivan police size up the legal case against carter. >> lithium batteries. some type of a laser sight for some type of firearm. two boxes of pills. $810. >> with his criminal history, 5 years, starting point, 10 years, 15. he's in the 15 to 20 year range. that is the icing on the cake. that's the top of the investigation there. doesn't get any better than that. >> if the recovered substances test positive for meth, the team will seek federal charges against carter and his three accomplices. >> you're sure that's dope? >> that is dope. >> meth, he says. >> that's cool.
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>> scan 282 at 11:09. smells like meth. positive for meth. >> there's a chunk there. >> scan 293 at 11:16 a.m. is meth. let's go with a trafficking a felo felony. let's get him without. we need to call the prosecutor and judge and know we found them trafficking with a possible federal amount of dope. >> dylan carter and the other suspects are innocent unless proven guilty in court. but for the team, the evidence stacks up to a strong case. a suspected major player in the meth game is out of circulation. at least for now. >> nobody got hurt. the bad guys went to jail. got a lot of dope off the
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street. 78.3 grams. >> tonight's raid was a big win for the franklin county narcotics enforcement unit. but the battle is far from over. >> i never had nothing. >> don't lie. >> swear to god. >> don't lie. lightning will strike you. >> it seems like for every one we catch there's ten more they've taught how to cook, smuggle or use. >> we're asking simple questions and we're getting jerked around. >> i look at what we're doing as we're holding the line. if it wasn't for us, they would take over the county in a short period of time. >> we're fighting for normal, everyday people that don't make meth, that hopefully sleep better at night in their beds because we do the things that we do.
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in this jail, man, it's like you got to be strong. you got to be mentally strong. you got to be physically strong. >> i said, "if you touch my food, we're gonna have a problem." and he proceeded to touch my food. >> narrator: a lunchtime dispute turns violent. >> it was really a bully situation, like what you would see on a commercial.
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