>> that's kind of bad. >> that's mean. that's not funny. that's not funny. yeah. i've had a terrible one played to me. i'm terrified of clowns. my roommate it and taped it to d i went out to get in my car and it was it in my face! mean. >> clowns facing my onsie. if you want one of these, just teen will order one of these for anybody who wants one. >> i will. show them the back. >> and my feet. i'm like mamma june, forklift foot! any way this was a great edition of april fool's. "way too early"! it's always a good day when we have confetti. "morning joe" starts right now.

>> already thrown out the first pitch. not bad. >> not bad at all. >> strike on the outside corner. >> i think he has to get his elbow up a little more. the ball just run some sink. >> look at this. willie, we have seen some of these and that is a good one right there. >> it has failing action. >> it does have tailing action. listen, this guy. usually you don't want a righty pitching against a lefty but in this case i bring in de blasio. >> he says he is doing nothing. who says that? >> i don't know what is up with thomas. this is disturbing! come on, man! get that out of my face! what? seriously? what is going on? i can't even look at it! >> those available for sale, thomas? >> they are. >> justin case. >> this is a one piece or a two

piece? >> we will see you later. much later! holy cow! you look like a giant smurf! >> i got it going. >> brings out something in you. i don't know what. louis shooting stuff in the camera. what is going on? >> they are two wacky guys. >> "morning joe" sound effects. >> holy cow. >> man! >> mercy. >> happy april fool's day. >> oh, that's right. >> is there a back story? >> no. that is what thomas wears around the office. >> on they got merchandise now. >> they got merc. take that piece of crap off right now. i'm not talking about the onsie. look at this. look what is he wearing. he is wearing an orioles cap, willie. they beat the red sox. >> let me get back on camera. >> i've had enough of him. giant smurf with an orioles cap. >> willie, do you sell

merchandise? >> he is taking it to the next level. >> coffee cups? i want onsies! >> exit, stage left! would appreciate it. willie, as you know, we were talking about this last night. i'm down with the kids. right? i've always been down with the kids. through the years, urbana. the stroke. >> the stroke. they are great, yeah. >> oh, there is an "s" on that one? i know where the kids are right now and the new poll is out, willie. the kids are down with obamacare. did you see this? that fern thing between the fern thing, it's the zach bounce. have you seen this? 49% of americans supporting o-care. >> can i tell you about these numbers? >> yeah. because i'm surprised. >> i can't wait. >> i'm republican and it's all very surprising to me.

last week, the poll said 3% of the people supported obamacare. >> check this out. >> now 97% said they would rather die or eat at arby's. it's an old "simpsons" joke. they are stranded on an island. one kid goes, i'm so hungry i could eat at arby's! >> it's been a bit of a rocky road. even the white house would concede that. the deadline to sign up under president obama's affordable care act has come and gone. through the glitches, yesterday they said the program is on track to meet its initial 7 million enrollees benchmark but won't change the mind of republicans. john boehner says the fight to appeal has continued and some

democrats had to thread the needle on health care in a tough election cycle. this is a new "the washington post" poll showing a nine-point reversal in favor of the plan from november especially among democrats. their support for the plan tying all-time highs at 76% among democrats. days ago, former president bill clinton encouraged them not to run away from the law. joe biden was on "rachael ray" show discussing her own family's story. >> i think people are going to be really, really surprised how well this has turned out. >> can i just say in my own family, my brother was diagnosed with an auto immune disease. he was dropped from his health insurance when he hit a health care cap. he has a small child. my mom and my sister went online on the site and used it as a resource to find the people in our community and they found the right health care for my brother

and his child. it is such an important resource for americans and i just thank you. i'm getting teary-eyed because it's very emotional for our whole family. >> oh, it's personal. let me say something. any young person listening, if you don't need this for your peace of mind, do it for mom, do it for your dad. >> that's right. >> get health coverage. do it for mom. >> do it for the family. >> joe biden with rachael ray. the administration has turned athletes kevin durant and lebron james getting in on the act during march madness when the president's appearance on "funny or die." kathleen sebelius saying -- >> we saw the bump, website traffic surged once between "two ferns" interview went on. more importantly, what we are trying to do is reach people in

the language that they most understand. certainly zach reaches a certain audience. >> i like that bruckheimer effect where it's sort of like at the end of "armageddon" that jumpy thing happens. i guess that is what hhs did. the only effect they had for her. what year was that? late 1997? where was she coming from? she looks like i look when i go from undisclosed locations in my bunker in west virginia. one of us, in case they drop the big one, one of us got -- >> the greenbriar. >> why not me? why not me? mark halpern, what is going on with these polls? they are going to hit the number, it looks like, and, you know, we have been in the low 30s on approval ratings but this poll may be an outlier so we will all take a deep breath and see if nbc and some of the other polls follow it but, still, 49% supporting obamacare? i haven't seen numbers that high

forever. well i don't think they have ever been that high. >> it would be surprising if the numbers don't go up because a lot in the plan already implemented. people like thing like preexisting conditions and younger people being able to stay on their parents' plan. anecdotally in my life i hear people talking about the direct impact on their lives and people they know lives from the plan from the law as compared to few a months ago when people were talking negatively about it. it's still very popular amongst democrats and the implementation is going better. the website, although it had some problems yesterday, is working. the deadline that big pr push can clearly drive the numbers. this is as good as democrats could hope for with positive momentum not just on the substance on the implementation of it but the politics as well. >> it's up 11 points among democrats just from january. >> wow. >> not surprising.

if you think about it, you had complete unknown to known. they had no ammunition. there was no anecdotes to work with. all it was was basically a black hole, where are we going? government in my pockets. now at least you have on the rachael ray thing and to your point, mark, you have stories. that's number one. i think the big issue going forward is what does this mean for the midterm elections? out of ads ever mentioned health care, 92% of them have been negative. people, obviously, run from it. now can you use it and pivot? not necessarily make your ads pro health care but pro we are here to help the little guy and attach it to minimum wanel and the have and have not's and attach it to income inequality. i think maybe a way not to run from it and make it a part of a bigger mess. >> a fight in the democratic party amongst message meisters. how do they stand on the law

versus change the topic. >> this is an off-year election but more conservative and they are going to be older and wider as everybody always says. it's still doesn't make sense for democrats to embrace this law on the campaign trail in states like alaska and north carolina and louisiana and arkansas. at the same time, though, if a republican thinks all they need to do is go and do the obamacare talking points and win elections that's not going to work. they are going to have to come up with, you know, they have to be right on taxes and regulations and a lot of other issues. obamacare is not going to carry them over the goal line like it carried a lot of people in 2010. >> julie pace is with us. the argument from the white house you know all along during these times of the website not working and all of the other problems along the way is this will be forgotten over the course of history. if this law is implemented, if we get the number of people we expect to get and the law works and we hear other stories all of

this other garbage will be forgotten. do they feel like they have crossed the deadline and gotten to 7 million and stories come out and work for people and the last whatever it's been, six months, will be passed? >> sure. they took a big first step and it really is just a first step. we have to give the white house credit. i don't think any of us in october, early november would have thought they would have hit this 7 million mark. this is a really impressive comeback for the white house. inside that number, though, there are a lot of unanswered questions. we still don't know how many people are actually going to pay for their policy. we don't know how many of that 7 million was previously uninsured. those are two unanswered questions. but they are hoping that now that they can sort of breathe this sigh of relief and say at least during this initial enrollment period we hit our target that some of those people will tell their stories and tell their friends and tell their would coworkers and over time the impression of the law will

change. short term does that impact democrats in the midterm election? i'm not sure. i think it will also be interesting to watch republicans. will republicans continue to run on a repeal message or will they run on a replaced modify message? when you look at some of these polls even the people who oppose obamacare tend to not want to totally repeal it. they tend to want to fix it. >> we look at the states again. julie, i'm sure the white house is aware this. we look at the states like alaska and arkansas and north carolina. you go through them. montana. states that mitt romney won very big. i'm sure these numbers, this broad number that we showed, the 49%, which is, listen, i'm taking nothing away from the white house. this is a big, important warning for them, but in those individual states where barack obama is having democratic senators fight on the -- in the reddest of red states, still the white house doesn't think this is going to be a winning message

for them, are they right? >> sure. >> mary landrieu is not going to go out and embrace obamacare in louisiana the same way, let's say, democrats did in florida in the special election. >> absolutely. i don't think the white house is expecting any calls from mary landrieu and mark pryor to come to their states and run on obamacare. i think the white house is okay. they recognize for one of those democrats would do that would be sleeping political suicide and they are not asking them to do this either. what they do hope is relieve some of the tension in obamacare in races in states that are less conservative and that are more purple states or are blue states where republicans may be hoping to make gain. >> quickly. the lower third reminded me of breaking news i heard yesterday that the website went down. glitchy to the last day. what did the white house say? why on the last day did this website and how does this happen? it's just absolutely insane that they can't keep a website up.

what happened? what is the white house excuse? >> the white house -- the website went down twice. it was down in the early morning yesterday and went down briefly in the middle of the day. software glitches were to blame they say and insisting it wasn't a volume issue and that the website responded the way it should when it goes down. a cueing system if you left your e-mail you could get back in line. if there was such irony to it that this is how the website started off and on the final day after having made really significant gains, after having, you know, made up a lot of ground on the vomit figures they still had to deal on the last day with answering questions about a glitchy website. >> i think you can spin that and like a concert selling out. it was -- no, seriously. 2 million visitors and never had more than 1.5 million. i think a trapped door on the republicans they get hung up on the point you brought up there are questions in those numbers. there aren't. historically 85% of the people who signed up have actually paid.

and 70% of the he signed up have been previously uninsured. the numbers are really pointing in the right direction. >> well, i think -- i think we just don't know, though, yet. >> by the way, just for our guests at home. donny made those -- impressive. >> no, the 85% is factual. to date, 85% of the people who have signed up have paid their first month's premiums. >> what is the source on that? >> the second one i made up but not the first one. >> all right, julie. respond to whichever questions donny asked that you want to respond to. i don't know if you can respond with that shirt he is wearing. a v-neck. >> this is very appropriate actually. >> we have already seen it. let's go to julie. >> i think that some of the numbers that we have seen come out are positive but, again, there are just a lot of unknown's. we can go even further into the numbers. we still don't know what the final breakdown is going to be on the number of young healthy people versus the number of older, sicker people who signed up for this and that will impact

the price in the second year. even having the numbers look good in this first year doesn't mean that the program then becomes sustainable. a lot of impacts in the second year. we have to give the white house credit because this is quite a comeback but until we get the full picture of the numbers and what is inside of them, i don't think we can fully analyze the success of this first year and the program going forward. >> some other political news to talk about. headlines out of new jersey focused on the bridge scandal. some republican donors signal they are ready to move on to names organ chris christie in 2016 but that is not bothering the new jersey governor who says the bridge scandal will not be a factor in whether or not he decides to run for president. >> i'm older and more experienced, and it's certainly something i've said to everybody that i'll consider. >> but do you have too much baggage? >> no. >> you had so little baggage last time. this time, it's different.

>> i'm older and you know what? if you don't have baggage, they will create baggage for you. that's politics in america today. that's the way it goes. in the end, you know what? people don't judge you on that kind of stuff. people look into your eyes and they try to decide what is in here. and that is how they vote. they vote for what they believe is in your heart. and can they trust you? do you care about them and understand them? will you be the type of person that they will be proud of sitting in that office? and on that basis, if i ever decided to do it, i'll be happy to be judged but my son said something interesting to me about this. he said to me, dad, if the way you judge whether you've been a success in your life is that you had to have been president of the united states, that's a pretty high bar. >> mark, let's put the last several days together for governor christie. the report comes out, internal report that exonerates him. he has the press conference he is defensive and the old chris christie.

a lot of people said he did an interview with diane sawyer and megan kelly and put it all together. how has he responded the last week? >> with the possible exception of jeb bush he today i think has the clearest path to the nomination of the president of the united states. >> i think he is beyond repair. >> if you watch the network -- if that is the type of voter you are. >> i think even if there wasn't a straight line, i think the average person can kind of reason to themselves this is a way of doing business around chris christie and not a way of doing business in the american public. i think there is an unlike ability that is now attached to him that i don't think you can get rid of it. >> no, there's not. listen. my twitter screen has been lit up by vitamin vitriol from the left i've never seen before. democrats really think what they believe, they project their

feelings under a republican primary voters as people in the mainstream media always do. a lot of talk about that new jersey -- that new hampshire event and people were talking about rand paul winning. i thought the biggest number was that i think chris christie came in like second or third in an event he had never been to, you know, people that really didn't really know chris christie that well. and, yet, he is second or third. you go around and talk to republicans and they like chris christie more today than they did three months ago. that's one. okay? maybe not in your neighborhood. where guys come dressed in suits. >> dressed like thomas. >> like thomas did clean snow off of your 80 million dollar mansion on the upper east side site 85. >> sorry, '85 million. >> with the rent out. >> i was reading the paper saturday morning early.

i read the coverage on chris christie and i go and i just absorbing it. debit halfway through and i'm sitting there going, wait a second. i'm spending like five minutes digging through this article and trying to figure out exactly what happened and when it happened. my gut, just my gut was there are troops in crimea. we don't know whether the russians are going to advance to the ukraine and here we are, three or four months later and i'm wasting time on a saturday morning, this was just for me, not for everybody else so i don't want people yelling and screaming. i'm saying this was my gut and it's usually right on politics. like what am i doing wasting time? then i went back to the front page and reading about putin and crimea and the phone call between president obama and putin. >> you mean wasting your own time? >> wasting my own time reading about two lanes that were

closed. i've been very slclear -- we er talking yesterday about it how it affects his judgment and blah, blah. voters are going to think that. i'm telling you the further we get away from that, examine he is exonerated and that is a big if i agree with mark. i think he has, within the republican party, i think he has more sympathy today than he did before. mark, it may hurt him. again, it may hurt him among the general election voters but mark was talking about a pathway to the nomination and he agree with him on that. >> exonerated is a huge neon cavelveat to put in there. donny, a weak field. >> yes. >> going back to november when chris christie was on the cover of "time" magazine and people were recognizing his strengths. he is not a perfect example but in a weak field if he is exonerated in a weak field with republican nominated voters if jeb bush didn't run, i'll say it

again, he has got a path. i can see states he can win and money he can raise, issues he can run on. being from outside washington. >> let me be be clear. i spoke yesterday with lawrence o'donnell about management issues that this brings up. those are just as relevant today' they were yesterday and be as relevant six months from now, questions that will hang over him in presidential debates when he gets to the general election. for sake of primary election he still over jeb bush has the straits pa straightest path to the nomination if he gets nominated. >> you talk about the two-lane state. in my lifetime, i can't remember anything more egregious that a police station has done. >> oh, my god. are you kidding me? >> no. >> do you know how many mayors, how many governors, how many people have abused their power for petty political purposes? in ways much worse than this?

a guy who has been anointed the savior of the republican party. >> this is the no egregious abuse of power in your lifetime? you have led a pristine lifetime, donny deutsche. i wish i had been the boy in the plastic bubble like you. >> the scandals we are used to seeing as far as hookers, this is a guy sitting in an office saying, you know what? i don't like what that mayor did so i'll make people sit in their cars for four hours. that rings true with every man. >> that is the worst abuse of power you have ever seen in your lifetime from a politician? >> i think that to the every man, that sings such an acute tune i think it resonates and you will never be elected president and i think the addelson the other day about the republicans wake up. we need a guy who is electable. we need a guy who is electable. there is margin for error and, obviously, jeb bush is and there are other people that could be elected. chris christie, i will stand

behind it, is damaged goods presidentially in our lifetime. i really do. >> even if the report comes out, not his internal report, u.s. attorney's report and said he had nothing to do with it some he didn't know about it? this was a couple of rogue people in his administration? bad management, yes but not a decision from his office? >> i think as time will come out, even if there was not a straight line on this specific thing, what time will show is that there is a way of doing business to your point, the management thing. we have talked about this ad nause nauseam, this is a way of doing business around him. i've never seen an experience of a right hand person worki ining somebody so controlling doing something so rogue and doesn't work that way. i feel very passionately about this. this is not a nighttime nbc thing and i'm not crusading on this. i really believe with human behavior, it has stuck with people and i feel strong about it. we will see. i've been wrong many times before. >> quite a life you have. that is quite a life you've

lived. does he ever -- >> can we shift gears to that suit you're wearing today? >> are you dancing with me at the chris christie inauguration? >> i will dance with you as long as you're not wearing what thomas was wearing this morning. is that still swirling in your head what he was wearing? >> the in everybody's head. as far as the shot to the nomination goes with chris christie, yes. does it damage him with general election voters? two years from now, it's going to be so remote if he is exonerated appear it's going to be so remote. >> donny, remember bill clinton,ever introduclinton, ev jennifer flowers? >> that didn't affect me. you screw around with an intern that is a different kind of scandal. >> donny deutsche talking for every man. i don't think that is, quote, every man is worried about this morning. whatever, whatever. >> i have so much every in me!

i don't know what to do with myself. >> you're funny. i think i'm going to throw up. coming up on "morning joe," congressman tom cole with us and steve schmidt and chuck todd and reverend al sharpton. one of the most powerful committee chairs is up for grabs. boy, speaking of april fool's. that was d.j. bill karins, what is the weather looking like? i walked outside. i said, wait a second, i'm not freezing! >> we may have turned the corner. >> may have warmed up a lit. >> surprised no one. the official standings in for march. dulles airport the coldest march you ever had and the snowiest march you ever had and the records go back to 1963. now we are done with march. let's step into april. it is a chilly, cool, clear morning. this is how it should be this time of year. in the afternoon, with the strong april sun, we warm it up. 62 in d.c. 52 in hartford.

beautiful april weather for your tuesday. we do have a big storm that is exiting the middle of the country. snowed on through the dakotas yesterday. blizzard conditions still continue there around areas like duluth. that is by far the worst weather in the country! your windchill is 8! northern minnesota you have to wait another week or two for your spring. west coast if you're flying there could be some showers. the middle of the country looks okay today but, tomorrow, this is april, so if your weather season has begun, we will watch the threat of hail and damaging winds and isolated tornadoes from st. louis down to oklahoma city. that time of year. has arrived. we are pretty much daily through april, a few locations with a chance of severe weather. washington, d.c., after that brutal, brutal march, april is looking sunny and nice. enjoy! you're watching "morning joe." ♪ get it right don't bring me down no no no no ♪ (dad) well, we've been thinking about it and we're just not sure.

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let's take a look at the morning papers. "seattle times" from our parade of papers, "the seattle times" writes the death toll in washington state's deadly mudslide stands at 24. 22 people are still missing a week after the tragedy. governor is asking president obama to call mudslide a disaster to clean up aid. >> gm ceo will be on capitol hill in a few hours talking about a safety defect linked to 13 deaths. mary barrow will testify today before a house scomet. the country's top auto regulator will testify. david friedman is expected to say the automaker knew key information about the defect but failed to disclose it publicly and general motors announced

it's recalling another 1.5 million cars because of a different power steering problem. so far, 6.1 million cars have been recalled in the first three months of 2014. >> donny, you used to work for gm, right? >> yes. >> deaths linked to these defects, gm has known about it reportedly for a very long time. i don't know that he was talking about a cover-up but they certainly didn't move forward with this. this is really bad news for general motors. >> the best news we have is that they have a new ceo who is not a 60-year-old white person, white guy. it gives them the ability -- i mean, a female ceo at gm is a huge deal. >> why? >> because gm has been seen as the quintessential, you know, old age company, out of touch, and the fact --, obviously, she is a new ceo. she had nothing to do with it and she is a woman and this may sound like a sexist statement. she is kind of a page turner ceo

so it gives them permission to continually point to the future. >> she has to be really harsh. >> she has nothing to do with this. she is the new sheriff in down town and feels like a new face for gm and what they have in their favor. clearly, obviously, a lot of questions to be answered. >> a lucky couple in virginia has won the lottery not once, not twice, but three times in two weeks. they won a million bucks in the powerball drawing on march 12th and 50 grand on march 26th and another million dollars from a scratch-off card on march 27th. >> come on now! >> something is up. >> something not right here. i'm not good at math. >> i keep playing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. >> they might have relatives in the lottery. something not right. >> when they picked up their latest prize, they told reporters, quote, we are not finished yet!

wow! they are coming back for more. i love it. >> holy cow. >> the new york daily news. 17-year-old high school senior from long island, new york, is facing a tough decision, all eight ivy league schools sent him acceptance letters. >> holy cow. >> this, by the way, not a problem that i had. i applied to one and i get, dear mr. scarborough, you're kidding, right? it was ugly. ivy league colleges and yuverts have a % acceptance rate for incoming freshmen but this student plans on pursuing music and medicine and is making a decision by may 1st. >> are you serious? >> how many times does that happen a year? >> it's rare. >> there is a breed of kid today that is on such a different level. you talk to these kid who are like getting perfect scores, straight a students like have -- a disease and sat down and mediated in the mid east. kids today -- i'm sure if you

saw this kid beyond, obviously, he has great grades, the other stuff is what these kids today are doing. >> these kids today. >> they still love the rock 'n' roll. >> they do love the rock 'n' roll. >> they love rock, man. and what other stuff is in the litany? smoking weed? >> some do. mostly rock 'n' roll. >> mostly rock 'n' roll. >> i feel good about the future. >> okay, good. >> who is with us now? >> speaking of the future. >> i believe mike allen is the future. >> he is. chief white house correspondent at politico, mike allen has a look at the playbook. >> good morning, guys. >> let's talk about dave camp announcing his riretirement. he is not running for re-election and dave camp aside now, who fills that spot? >> it's almost certainly going to be paul ryan now the budget

chairman. the camp announcement is fascinating. it's a continuation of the retirement of a bunch of senior republicans. the other day when joe and mika were down in d.c., we were talking around the table no surprise democrats are leaving. they don't think they are going to get the house back but to see all of these older republicans leaving is surprising. doc hastings and buc mckeown and mike rogers. all of these very known names leaving at once. dave camp who earlier released his fantasy tax reform plan, got a lot of guff about it from his other republicans because it was causing them trouble. now we see why. he wants to put it out there as his marker and we are told that dave camp in his new life will find some way, whether it's foundation or a business to continue promoting these tax reform ideas. paul ryan today will be in the spotlight. everybody is looking at him now as mr. chairman of his dream committee ways and means. he is almost certain to get

that. today, he is releasing a budget that shows how he has grown. show he has got more than politically astute. "the wall street journal" says this budget that paul ryan will put out will give 55 people -- people 55 and younger a choice about whether to go into medicare or to accept a subsidy. by giving a choice, he's making more politically palatable than before. >> this is a statement of principle put out as a fantasy budget and doesn't mean most of these things will actually happen. >> yes, it's a campaign document for both sides. republicans don't have to put this out. they want to to send their message. democrats love to take whacks at it and they are going to introduce a bunch of amendments that won't pass just to go on the record against it. >> mike allen with a look at the playbook. mike, you are the future. >> he is. >> have a great april, everybody! >> we will see you. >> he is taking on months at a

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>> not observe in the tri-state area. >> i wasn't in the tri-state area so there you go. >> some of us get out. but, yeah. andy pettitte handled it so well. yes, i did it. my shoulder hurt. i was told it would make it heal faster, it did. i used it in the off-season. >> it's so easy to do and look how it changes the trajectory of your legacy is viewed whether you're roger clemens or andy pettitte. >> need to get in touch with reality. the financial times, julie ann tate will join us for mika's must read opinion pages. we will be right back. ♪

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time for the most read op d op-e op-eds. with us on set, assistant editor and columnist for "the financial times" julie ann. >> this is from "the washington post" written by chicago mayor rahm emanuel talking about education. he writes both maerts need to grow up in discussing early education. when i was young -- excuse me. it's time for our leaders in washington to grow up and stop passing one another. democrats are wrong to equate more funding and more slots with better results. instead, we must infuse or national effort to promote early learning with measurable quality and parental support to ensure

its success. the kids in our country deserve nothing less. >> i think rahm emanuel is talking a lot of sense. there have been studies after studies showing that when kids of access to pre-k, good quality pre-k teaching it makes a big difference in their outcome later in life. it's one of the great things that can be a social level in a sense. one of the great challenges that we are dealing with today is the fact that wealthy kids are getting so much more input not just later in life but early in life. and trying to really focus on pre-k is a great way to try and give kids from poor families at least a chance at competing. >> something that they are doing right now in new york, obviously, mayor de blasio and the governor are going back and forth but it looks like they are moving towards a solution. >> absolutely, absolutely. the people are talking about it seriously in a way not about political point scoring but trying to focus on some of the issues. >> on education reform it's

fascinating. mayor de blasio, we had him on the show. it looks like we were talking about him talking bill clinton. it looks now like education reform after pre-k is staying in new york city, which, obviously, for a lot of people that means a lot. isn't it surprising that the one thing that hold dust up over the success schools showed is just how isolated the teachers unions are? not only from republicans, but also from democrats. because when you saw governor cuomo speaking, it wasn't a bunch of old white rich guys standing behind him. it was african-americans, hispanics and people of color who wanted the same opportunities for their children that, you know, people like us get for our children. >> a complete tragedy that education has become such a political like a football or soccer ball. the reality is most people don't want education to be this politicized and governor cuomo played a very clever game on

that respect. i mean, he really did actually manage to unite people and saying let's get on with it and try to get some proper solutions here. >> if you look at the glass halfful what is happening right now, so many smart people thinking about education right now and so many more people talking about it now in the public square whether it's in the media or in politics. we really are having the conversation we said we should have about education. we don't agree on a lot of the things. some people think we should do it this way and the other, but outcomes should start to improve just based on the fact that we have great, smart people gravitating toward the field of education. >> absolutely. something else to realize it ties into the debate of inequality. the fact that so many people came back from the war and got a decent education and that was a huge social level that helped the american dream because the only people that got a leg up the ladder. that, unfortunately, has slowed down and try to make sure the ways of education once again

becomes a way of actually creating opportunity for all is critical. >> before we go, i got to ask you about russia. what is the economic situations with the russian markets and eu. how is vladimir putin's economy faring in this crisis a few weeks later? >> well, in terms of, say, the western stock market and the western markets right now, there was an initial concern, they were concerned about the emerging markets would put a dampener on the way the share price is behaving but that has died down because there doesn't appear to be a recognition people are heading into a long grinding conflict or standoff around ukraine. but the question now really is what degree do the western countries impose effective sanctions and on the economy and what message will that send more broadly. people are looking at the energy equation in particular because that is central to the way this whole issue is playing out right

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with us on set, "way too early" thomas roberts. very disturbing start to the morning, thomas had. we have an image that is forever burned in our minds. >> you share you want to share the image? >> i already told them we can't burn pictures but i told them to burn the hard drive. that one is okay. burn the hard drive. >> you can't show the full shot. >> it's like a smurf. >> three-quarter one that kills me. >> a mechanic smurf. >> if you want a "way too early" onsie i can get you one. >> no. with us is msnbc political analyst steve schmidt is here. extra large. in washington, nbc news and political director and host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd and with us is also is the a.p.'s julie pace. a lot to talk about this morning. let's jump into obamacare.

i'm fascinated to get steve's response to this and have chuck tell us, along with julie, the story. >> we note the deadline came and went and a rocky road for president obama and getting to the aca, a lot of people under pressure to get signed up and despite ongoing glitches throughout the weekend the a.p. says the program is on track to meet its initial 7 million enrollment bench mar mark but not change the minds of the republican. john boehner says the fight to appeal continues and some threats have had to thread the needle in the midterm cycle. this is a new "the washington post" poll showing a nine-point reversal in favor of the plan from november especially among democrats. their support for the plan tying all-time highs at 76% among democrats. days ago, former president bill clinton encouraged democratic candidates not to run away from the law. joe biden was on "rachael ray"

show on-to-sell that plan and discussing her own family's story. take a look. >> i think people are going to be really, really surprised how well this has turned out. >> can i just say in my own family, my brother was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. he was dropped from his health insurance when he hit a health care cap. he has a small child. my mom and my sister went online to the site and used it as a resource to find the people in our community and they found the right health care for my brother and his child. it is such an important resource for americans and i just thank you. i'm getting teary-eyed because it's very emotional for our whole family. >> oh, it's personal. let me say something. any young person listening, if you don't need this for your peace of mind, do it for mom, do it for your dad. >> that's right. >> get health coverage. do it for mom. >> do it for the family. chuck todd, i'd have to say this morning is probably the most positive morning for the white house on this subject of

obamacare since the morning after they actually passed the bill. they could go around and say they met their goals and, of course, digging into the numbers. i'm guessing we are going to find out it's not going to all be great news for the white house. but they can say that. and that is important so aour goal was 7 million and we hit our goal. number two, these numbers, this abc news/"the washington post" poll, they may be outliers and we will find out when nbc puts its poll out there. the highest numbers i've seen in any major national poll in at least two years. what is going on? >> they have one other asset coming in the next six months. that is there isn't this daily check-in on the law. one thing about enrollment is that, oh, i'd say every couple of days it generated some headline during the enrollment process. i am curious to see what does the landscape look like when we have five months of nothing, five months of simply people who

have health insurance doing it and there is no weekly benchmark checking in on enrollment. what happens to that vacuum? that i be an odd asset for the democrats meaning there is just nothing there to be a story. republicans have been very successful to run on negative headline. look at this! they didn't do this or they didn't do that or enrollment is doing this and this exchange doesn't work here and it's been this constant thing every day or two, they have got some negative headline to beat up the democrats with and i think it's helped drive down the polls particularly for some democrats. i'm curious what do the next five months look like when you don't have that. >> julie pace at the white house along with chuck. what are you hearing the white house's next step? they are going to say they hit their goal. what is next? >> i think initially they are going to take a big sigh of relief. this has been a tough six months for them. i think one of the things they are going to do is talk to some of these 2014-ers and democrats

up for re-election and figure out what the party strategy is going to be. chuck makes a good point. in this six-month period we have this daily drum beat of coverage. a lot of it negative. a lot of it warranted because of the website and a lot of problems they have had. but, you know, what democrats will decide now that they want to be running on this? what democrats will decide this they don't? and i think that we can probably look at the states and make those decisions. again, i would look at republicans on this too. republicans have to make a choice. if the numbers look solid, do republicans double down on a repeal message or do they start to back away from that because you do have people out there saying, hey, i got health care coverage and i like it. >> steve schmidt, so much this depends on geography. if you're a alaska and rp y republican you double down on the message. probably in north carolina or georgia or montana or states that mitt romney won by double

digits you double down on that message. >> one piece of good news for the democrats is increasing in support in the democratic base is important in the turnout. >> so the families coming home? >> yeah. but it still remains very unpopular with republican voters and independent voters. if you are a democratic senator in a tough re-election running in the state, you can still have a lot of problems. >> let's offer a warning to our republican brothers and sisters this morning, if we can. >> yeah. >> this was the truth yesterday before the polls came out. this was the truth before we found out that they hit the 7 million mark and republicans already saying this. strategists are saying this. if you think you can go out there and read talking points on obamacare and get re-elected in 2014 you're misreading the tea leaves. it's going to be a good republican year but not 2010. right? would you agree with me? just running against obamacare even in the reddest of red

states won't put you over the top. have you to have a plan for jobs. >> absolutely. look. the fact that we have not had policies, we have not for a long time had policies and articulate to the american people has been a huge problem inside the republican party. and on the issue of obamacare specifically, part of the problem is republicans have made promises with regard to repeal that are not based on reality. will never be repealed so long as barack obama is president of the united states. over time, if you continuously promise something that you have no ability to deliver on, that has a malignant effect with your credibility in the electorate. as we look ahead to 2016, republicans are going to have to articulate a proactive vision for how they wish to reform health care, how they wish to make this better. >> that is a great way to put it. you can be reactive in off-year elections and get elected. i'm proof of that. i love i hear republicans saying

we figure off-year elections and now time for us to figure out how to win back the white house. pro active versus reactive. >> one great name of a republican who talks about health care is an elected official? there is not a lot of republicans and i can't think of anyone on top of mind who does it. we should start with the premise no working person in this country should lose their home, should go bankrupt because their son gets leukemia or their wife has a heart attack or their husband, you know, has a real serious traumatic leg injury. and you shouldn't get thrown off your insurance with preexisting conditions. these are popular positions with the american people. so we need to separate what is popular in this legislation from the parts of it not comprehensive or understandable and at the end of the day put huge financial drain on the testimony over time. >> chuck makes a good point on how republicans should talk about this on the republican side of things they need to be

based in reality especially if they use the word repeal. as we enter into the mid terms is that throwing red meat to the base those candidates potentially can't live up to that? >> look. i go to what joe just said. i'm a believer in this too. mid terms are about the past and presidential elections are about the future. and that is where, i think, the republicans are a little bit in a box on this on what to do on health care. we know what polls best of the three issues. keep it as is, fix it, repeal it. fix it by far is the most popular issue. it has across the board support by party. but the question is can a republican in a midterm year afford to be touting a fix it plan? >> no. >> because they -- >> hey. >> the base of the party say if you fix it, it means you're going to fix it and i agree. >> chuck, he learned a month ago even a democrat in central florida couldn't afford to run. i'm dead serious. >> well, right. >> couldn't run on a fix-it

platform. we saw the 30-second commercial and we immediately went ugh. it's not going to work. again, that is a midterm versus a presidential election year, right? >> no, look. that's right. i don't see -- i think republicans will keep going on this strategy, but what i'm curious about is they have been needing the daily headlines to feed the narrative on health care. if there is no daily headline for the next five months, and i don't think there is going to be, because we are going to be in sort of a dead period. there is no enrollment. this is simply people going about their day-to-day lives with 15 million more people or at least 10 million net with insurance. you know, barring, you know, some sort of new development that there are long lines at doctor's offices or people can't get in, things like that, some republicans are trying to scare team about, barring that, they have -- i'm with you, joe. they are going to have something

else to sort of close the deal beyond just saying, hey, i don't like that health care plan. >> i will say this on the other side for people looking at these numbers. that are going to think, donny mary landrieu or going to the red states in montana, arkansas, alaska, north carolina. anybody thinks that democrats are going to go you and embrace obamacare the way bill clinton told them to? please. send me the 30-second ad for the democrat that does that first and i'll give you a couple of good tickets to a red sox game. it won't happen. >> i love your point of view as a republican guy, steve. is there an opportunity for a democrat we said but not to embrace obamacare but embrace the little guy strategy. obamacare plus minimum wage plus income inequality it's in there and you're not running from it but it's one more way we are going to even the uneven score

in this country between the have and have not's? is there a hedge for them because they are qaut incaught quagmire. i think an opportunity for what i call a softer brace for lack of a better term or am i dreaming on that? >> the republicans have a difficult environment for sure. sometimes you don't have the ability to fix some of this stuff. that being said, people just despise washington politicians and this is a character issue. all of these democratic politicians, these senators they voted for it. they own it. so thee need to try to explain it and run on it. they don't have a path to be against it and their equivocation on it makes their base angry but certainly i think also displays the wishy washiness that people have just come to despise. so the fact that they have gone out, that they voted for something, that their constituents don't like it they need to make this a test of character and look into the camera and explain their intentions, maybe to articulate about how it gets fixed and how

it makes it better and how to personalize it but they need to broaden the race to something beyond semple a referendum on obamacare. >> they need to push it away and need to be aggressive. >> you have to take the fight to your opponent on it but you certainly can't be on offense by pretending, a, weren't for it, or, b, you're against it after the fact. >> you voted for it and you're a democrat you can't push it away. they have to say what you said. you're damn right, i voted for obamacare and i'll tell you why i did. because i don't think and then talk about, you said, because a kid gets leukemia that a family should lose a house and go through two or three of those things. did washington screw up? yes. did obama screw up? yeah. is it a joke they weren't better prepared for this? yes. i feel let down. you feel let down? i feel let down because i put my name on there and i'll i tell you what, i'm going over there the next two years and raise

hell and make sure they fix it because and then fill in the blank. they have to the it 90 miles an hour. you're right. this equivocation, you can't run away from it because then you're right. it becomes a character issue. >> i hate marshal analogies for politics. it's like a song disembarking off the landing craft. only one way. forward. no way back when your back is to the sea. they have to go forward on this issue. they have to defend consistent with what their record is and those that are trying to run away from this. >> they will lose. >> the ostrich strategy they will get killed. >> one element in here midterm not so much coverage of midterm as presidential. tv ads will matter huge there and outside republican groups will put up the money to go after a democrats in obamacare. will democrats put up money to pay for ads to defend obamacare? that is a big open question that scares a lot of democrats. >> jim clyburn was on yesterday and saying the white house wasn't doing enough to defend

democrats this year. >> let's push beyond 2014 and look 2016 with headlines out of new jersey. focused on the bridge scandal. some republican donors signaled they are ready to move on names organ chris christie for the presidential nomination but that isn't bothering the governor from new jersey who says the bridge stajeds won't be a factor if he decides to run. >> i'm older and more experienced, and it's certainly something i've said to everybody that i'll consider. >> but do you have too much baggage? >> no. >> you had so little baggage last time. this time, it's different. >> i'm older and you know what? if you don't have baggage, they will create baggage for you. that's politics in america today. that's the way it goes. in the end, you know what? people don't judge you on that kind of stuff. people look into your eyes and they try to decide what is in here. and that is how they vote. they vote for what they believe is in your heart. and can they trust you? do you care about them and understand them? will you be the type of person that they will be proud of sitting in that office?

and on that basis, if i ever decided to do it, i'll be happy to be judged. but my son said something interesting to me about this. he said to me, dad, if the way you judge whether you've been a success in your life is that you had to have been president of the united states, that's a pretty high bar. >> well, chuck todd, not a high bar if you're a bush. i mean, come on. if jeb doesn't become president, he is a failure. three out of five presidents, you know, would be bush's. >> oh, geez! way to climb inside his head! geez. >> i was going to say how would you like to grow up in that family? talk about a high bar. let's talk, though, about chris christie. he's had quite a week. baghdad bob going out trying to defend him in this -- in this ridiculous report. >> right. >> which steve was talking about why americans hate washington. that's why americans hate politics in general.

but how did chris christie do himself? assertive at a press conference and sit-down with diane sawyer and i thought he was pretty compelling last night with megan kelly. what do you think? >> i think it's fascinating he so badly wants to get back on the national campaign trail. that to me we learned the last week, no doubt he is running for president. he wants to run for president. and maybe they have even made the calculation get more aggressive about running for president now because then it makes the bridge scandal look like it's part of this coordinated partisan attack to bring him down because he is such a powerful presidential candidate. to watch this. look. i think -- i don't see how he gets all this back, all of his assets are gone the biggest one being he was a guy with bipartisan reach. that's gone. he's either a straight shooter or he is either not a straight shooter any more or he is not competent, right? because he wasn't a very good

delegator if that is what he was doing. one of those two assets are gone. i don't see the path. never mind we didn't bring up the conservative issue. i find it interesting is he being so aggressive and he is not being wishy washy about his interest at running for president. he talks about it as if he is in the middle of doing it now. sounds to me the calculation he made. forget this p.m. i'm running. >> steve schmidt, we have seen it the past month. republican donors getting calls from jeb bush and he is calling republicans all over the country. keep your powder dry, i may be running and i'm trying to figure this out. for chris christie, he does see this slipping away from him. even though it's april 1st, 2014 and we got a long time until the first primary, chris christie knows the clock is ticking. >> a couple of months ago after the november election, chris christie like hillary clinton was managing the clock and in control and now at the mercy of events and lost control both the

narrative and the timing of the race. and so jeb bush gets into this race, i think, it really collapses a lot of what would be the financial infrastructure. what a case for jerry brown to get into this. >> julie pace, we hear a lot about national donors, particularly new york area donors interested in christie. how much interest here in washington about people thinking christie is not so damage that he might run that he might be the savior for the party? >> well, chris christie always had a lot of fans in washington. both among the political class and the money class. i think that he continues to have a lot of support. he hasn't seen, you know, this huge flood away from him yet. and i think that the strategy that he is enacting right now is a smart one because he couldn't just wallow in this scandal forever. at a certain point he had to try

to play offense and try to get out there and regain the narrative on this. so i think this was a smart move from him but we do still have unanswered questions about what actually happened there. the best thing for him if this all goes away and there is nothing there is that it happened at this point in his -- looking at the presidency, not in a year when he is fully in it. >> all right. thank you so much, jaeulie. steve schmidt, thank you. chuck, we watch you on "the daily rundown" right after "morning joe." who do you have on? >> steve will like this. neil cash carey. mr. tarp is running for governor of california. >> that will be interesting. coming up next, the politics behind one of the most significant pieces of american legislation in history. they are breaking it down the civil rights and how one ordinary person can create

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♪ civil rights act is a challenge to all of us. to go to work in our communities and our states and in hour homes and in our hearts to eliminate the last invevestiges of injust in our beloved country. i urge every american to join in this effort to bring justice and hope to all our people and to bring peace to our land. >> a big moment in our nation's history right there. this year, marking the 50th anniversary of the civil rights act. with us from "vanity fair" tom purdum. also joining us on set is host

of msnbc politics nation and president of the national action network, the reverend al sharpton. good morning. great to have you both here. reverend, let me start with you. as we reach the 50th anniversary milestone you talk about this on your show. we still have work to be done. is that hard to reconcile with the anniversary? >> no. i think that in many ways, and i looked at todd's book, which i think, is an amazingly important book, we look at 50 years ago and when you see that we legally had little rights. people couldn't check into hotels if they were black and couldn't use public accommodations and now we have a black president and it shows the progress. we ought to measure how did we get here to use those same tactics and strategies how we deal with the issues that we are dealing with today. i think that the thing i liked about todd's book is that he

talks about some of the things that are are not easy. we all know dr. king and people like clarence mitchell and the work they did on the hill. the republican congressman that did the work in the house getting the civil rights act passed, who represented the same district that john boehner represents now. these kind of things are things we need to know for the fights we are doing on civil rights matters of today and there are many that remain today, but we have to solve them the same way. >> in picking up on the playbook the reverend is talking about. going forward, what lessons learned from the past do we apply to this new age and what are the goals for the civil rights movement the next decade? >> the challenges are harder now because of the questions of income inequality and what endured president kennedy when he talked about the bill and different prospects of a black baby and white baby born in the same city on the same day and access to college education it's hugely better now in terms of actual income, not so much.

what the real crucial key in some ways to the passage of the civil rights bill a doucoalitiof church groups and they lobbied the senators and got it moving. could any coalition like that be mobilized today on a question like immigration? could you get the catholic church to put pressure on house republicans to do something about it and i don't know the answer. >> tom, give us a history lesson here as we look at the book itself. remind of us what the influencers were of that time because i think uright when it comes to immigration reform. big shifts and horrific moments in our country's history. sad moments. >> yes. terrible moments, including principally in the spring of 1963 in birmingham the police dogs and fire hoses turned on young people and knocking them to the ground when they were

simply demonstrating peacefully to use a lunch counter or check into a hotel and that horrified president kennedy. he thought it gave the international community a labla eye and gave support for members of congress to do something about the bill. by no means the bill would pass and when president kennedy was assassinated it was hung up and not clear whether it be pass. >> i have a question for al. you talk about how far we have come with having the first black president. i wonder if you think, in some ways, that achievement sometimes gives people an opportunity to look past a lot of the problems that still exist whenever you look at economic and educational numbers and african-americans still fall far behind whites and other groups. i wonder if you think the big success that has been had let's people gloss over some of these other problems? >> no doubt about it. the real challenge of today is

with that achievement, how you don't undermine the achievement but still raise the serious problems and despair its that still exist and people say what are you talking about? we have a black president. they don't want to deal with the unemployment or the educational despair its and i think it's important to look where we have come from. the election of president obama didn't happen in isolation. it's a result of those struggles 50 years ago. if we don't deal with the issues today, what happens when he leaves office? next week, the 50th anniversary of the signing of the bill at the johnson library in texas and then we talk about where do we go 50 years from now? what will trayvon martin and all of these issues look 50 years from now. if we don't learn what we did 50 years ago and we will lose a lot

of our progress. >> great to have you both here. see you tonight, reverend al, at 6:00 p.m. >> i will be here and i won't have on a costume like you did this morning. >> you're staying bus a little while longer and we will evaluate my costume. >> i'm used to him having a costume. >> donny is a really good dresser. >> thank you, sir. a busy 48 hours for gm's ceo who set to testify before the house today and senate tomorrow. how she is going to address the company's deadly ignition flaw. more "morning joe" coming up next. ♪ avo: wherever your journey takes you the expedia app helps you save with mobile-exclusive deals download the expedia app text expedia to 75309

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today's hearing on capitol hill and ceo marry barra is sure to be grilled. >> gm and accepted they were willing to have this switch that didn't meet their own specification. we need to ask why that was and what was the reason that they went ahead and did it any ways. >> reporter: gm ceo mary barro only new on the job two months and today she will telephone and in her comments say she doesn't know why it took so long to order a recall and asked for an independent investigation and apologize to the families who lost someone. finally, national high traffic administration is under fire from republicans and democrats for failing to catch this defect the last ten years and failing to act. >> barra has a big lift ahead for her. great to see you, tom. thank you, sir. coming up next, our next guest promises a pencil can change the world.

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welcome back, everybody. joining us now, republican congressman from oklahoma and majority whip tom cole. that beautiful shot of washington, d.c. we just had up, it looks gorgeous there today.

>> finally. >> you're getting much-deserved spring weather. >> finally. it is absolutely a great day. >> looks fantastic. mark halperin, you want to lead off? >> we've been talking a lot around this table about the mid terms and what the republican message should beyond saying obamacare is bad, it should be changed or in some cases your colleagues will say repealed, what are the two or three things republicans want the mid terms to be about? >> first of all the ryan budget, which you should see this week. whether we want it to be part of it or not, it should be. it actually deals with the deficit, strictly address the long-term drivers and entitlement. national security is now re-emerging as an issue, given, frankly, the weakness of the american response over the ukrainian issue and the hot button issues like the iranian nuclear arms discussions and palestinian/israeli dispute. i think, frankly, the president

has a lot to offer for over the last several years. the reset with russia, the cancellation of american anti-missile defense programs in poland and czech republic, the debacle in syria. all those sorts of things were the signals and triggers for what putin did. beyond that, i think we're for more robust defense, for stronger foreign policy in general. pretty traditional republican policies. >> latest obamacare numbers. looks like 7 million people will have enrolled meeting the cbo estimates. what does that do to the republican message going into the mid terms? does it change it at all, if you have 7 million people signing up, many getting health insurance for the first time or -- go ahead. >> many of those people signed up under duress. meaning their policies had been canceled and they were forced to

sign up. i would still look to the polling on this. it's never sold well. it's not popular. a lot of people are contacting us, talking about higher rates, higher deductibles and the inconvenience of having to go on the exchange when they had what they thought was perfectly fine health care before. i haven't seen very much satisfaction with the law itself. in the end that's the fundamental argument, not how many people go on the website. >> to your point, congressman, it's donny deutsch, for the first time democrats and republicans are pro-obamacare tochlt julie's point, aren't the republicans now in a position where they can't just merely bang on obamacare but need a broader message than that? >> you need an alternative out there. we're working to doing that. we ought to unify. the issue doesn't go away. again, i don't think millions of voters are going to flock to the polls because they're happy

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good morning. it's 8:00 am on the east coast, 5:00 am on the west coast. mark halperin is with us on set, donny deutsch. oh, boy. and in washington we've got julie pace and, of course, willie geist. willie, are you sort of like the sting thing here? >> just do this. it's a tribute. >> and the new poll is out, willie. >> yeah. >> the kids are down with obamacare. did you see this? that fern thing, between the fern thing. >> zach gallifianakis. >> can i tell you about these numbers? >> yeah. i'm a republican. this is all very surprising me. last week the poll said 3% of

the people. now 97% said they would rather die or eat at arby's. i'm sorry. >> whoa, whoa! >> i'm joking. it's an old simpson's joke where they're stranded on the island. >> yes. >> and one of the kids go i'm so hungry, i could eat at arby's. >> i enjoy an arby's sandwich. >> america's roast beef, yes, sir. >> it's been a bit of a rocky road. even the white house would concede that. the deadline to sign up under president obama's federal healthcare act has come and gone. the associated press says the program is on track to meet its initial 7 million enrollees benchmark. house speaker john boehner said the fight to repeal continues. some democrats have had to thread the needle on health care in a tough mid term cycle.

there are signs public opinion on the law is improving. new washington post poll showing a nine-point reversal in favor of the plan from november, especially among democrats. their support for the plan tying all-time highs at 76% among democrats. days ago, former president bill clinton encourage d democrats nt to run away from the law. bullish on it on rachel ray's show, helping to sell the plan, discussing her own family's story. >> i think people are going to be really, really surprised how well this has turned out. >> can i just say in my own family, health care cap, he has a small child. my mom and my sister went online to the site and used it as a resource to find the people in their community. it is such an important resource

for americans and i just -- i'm getting teary. it's very emotional for our whole family. >> no, it's personal. any young person listening, if you don't need this for your peace of mind, do it for mom. do it for your dad. >> that's right. >> get health coverage. do it for mom. >> do it for the family. >> joe biden with rachel ray. the administration has turned athletes as well, kevin durant and lebron james getting in on the act during march madness and the president's recent appearance on "funny or die" with zach galifianakis. >> we dlivent saw the galifianakis bump, website traffic surged once "between two ferns" interview went on. more importantly, what we're trying to do is reach people in the language that they most understand. certainly zach reaches a certain

audience. >> i like that brookheimer effect. where liv tyler puts her hand on the screen -- i guess that's what hhs did. that's the only effect they h what year was that, like 1997? where was she coming from? >> i don't know. >> she looks like i look when i go to undisclosed locations, bunker in west virginia. just in case they drop the big one. >> under the greenbriar. >> why not me? why not me? what's going on with these polls, mark halperin? i mean, they're going to hit the number. they're going to be in the low 30s on approval ratings. this poll may be an outlier. we'll see if nbc and some of the other polls follow it. 39% supporting obamacare. i don't think numbers have ever been that high.

>> it would be surprising if numbers didn't go up. there's lots in the plan already implemented. younger people being able to stay on their parents' plan. anecdotali l anecdotally in my life i hear people talking more positively than a few months ago. democrats support is driving the percentage of overall increase in popularity. the implementation is going better. the website, although it had problems yesterday, is working. the deadline, that big pr push, could clearly drive the numbers. this is as good as democrat koss hope for with positive momentum. not just on the substance of it, the implementation as well. >> up 11 point amongst democrats just from january. >> it's not surprising because if you think about it, you had complete unknown to known. they had no ammunition.

there was no anecdotes to work with. where are we going? oh, my god, government in my pockets. you saw on the rachel ray thing and, mark, to your point, have you stories. that's number one. big issue going forward, what does this mean for the midterm elections? 92% offa that is mention healthcare have been negative. people obviously run from it. can you use it and pivot? not make your ads as democrat prohealth care but pro-we're here to help the little guy, attach it to the haves and have-nots. maybe there's a way to not run from it. >> that's a real fight in the democratic party. >> what's that? >> how much they stand their ground and run on the law versus try to change the topic. >> they need to look at the special election in florida. i understand these numbers and the democratic support is going up. this is an off-year election.

there will be more conservative, older, wider, as everybody always says. it still doesn't not make sense for democrats to embrace this law on the campaign trail in states like alaska, north carolina, louisiana, arkansas. at the same time, though, if a republican thinks all they need to do is go and do the obamacare talking points and win elections, that's not going to work. they're going to have to come up with -- they have to be right on taxes, regulations and a lot of other issues. it's not going to carry them over the goal line like it did in 2010. >> julie pace is joining us from washington. the argument from the white house all along during the times of the website not working, all the other problems along the way is this will be forgotten over the course of history, if the law is implemented, we get the number of people we expect to get, the law works and we hear the positive stories, all this other garbage, as they call it, will be forgotten.

do they feel like they're going to get to 7 million, these stories will come out, it's going to start to work for people and the last, whatever it's been, six months will be past? >> sure. they took a big first step. it really is just a first step. we have to give the white house credit. i don't think any of us in october, early november, would have thought they would have hit this 7 million mark. this is an impressive comeback for the white house. inside that number, though, are unanswered questions. we don't know how many people are going to pay for their policy. we don't know how many of that 7 million was previously uninsured. those are two unanswered questions. they are hoping that now that they can sort of breathe this sigh of relief and say at least during this initial enrollment period we hit our target, that some of those people will start to tell their stories. they'll start to tell their friends, their co-workers and over time the impression of the law will change. short term, does that impact democrats in the mid term

election? i'm not sure. i think it will also be interesting, though, to watch republicans. will republicans continue to run on a repeal message or will they run on a replace, modify message? when you look at some of these polls even the people who oppose obamacare tend to not want to totally repeal it. they tend to want to fix it. >> other political news, headlines out of new jersey still focused on the bridge scandal. some republican donors as we've been talking about signaling that they're ready to move on to names other than chris christie in 2016. but that is not bothering the new jersey governor, who says the bridge scandal will not be a factor in whether or not he decides to run for president. >> i'm older, more experienced. and it certainly is something that i've said to everybody that i'll consider. >> do you have too much baggageage? >> no. >> you had so little baggage last time, this time it's different? >> i'm older. if you don't have baggage, they'll create baggage for you. that's politics in america

today. that's the way it goes. in the end people don't judge you on that kind of stuff. people look into your eyes and try to decide what's in here. and that's how they vote. they vote for what they believe is in your heart. and can they trust you? do you care about them and understand them? will you be the type of person that they'll be proud of sitting in that office? and on that basis, if i ever decided to do it, i'll be happy to be judged. my son said something interesting to me about this. he said to me, you know, dad, if the way you judge whether you've been a success in your life is that you had to have been president of the united states, that's a pretty high bar. >> mark, let's put the last several days together for governor christie. the report comes out, internal report that exonerates him. press conference where he's defensive, the old chris christie. does an interview with diane sa

sawyer, megan kelp. >> with the possible exception of jeb bush, he has the clearest path to the nomination of any republican. >> still today? >> still today. >> i couldn't disagree with you more. i think he is damaged beyond repair. >> well -- >> i'm giving you my opinion. >> if you watch this network at night -- >> i think the average person can kind of reason to themselves that this is a way of doing business around chris christie and not a way of doing business in the american public. i think he is -- there is an unlikability that's now attached to him that colorado think you can get rid of. >> no, there's not. listen, my twitter screen has been lit up by vitreal from the left over the last three months like nothing i've ever seen before and democrats really think that what they believe -- they project their feelings on to republican primary voters as people in the mainstream media always do. there was a lot of talk about

that new jersey -- new hampshire event. and people were talking about rand paul winning. i thought the biggest number was that chris christie came in second or third at an event he had never been to, that people didn't really know chris christie that well. yet he's second or third. you go around and talk to republicans and they like chris christie more today than they did three months ago. that's one. maybe not in your neighborhood. guys come dressed in suit. >> like thomas. >> like thomas did, clean snow off your $80 million mansion on the upper east side. second thing is that. >> 85. >> 85, sorry. 85 million. i was reading the paper saturday morning early and i read the coverage on chris christie and i go, well -- i guess halfway

through and i'm going, wait a second. and i'm spending five minutes digging through this article, trying to figure out exactly what happened and he it happened and my gut -- just my gut was the troops in crimea. we don't know whether the russians are going to advance to the ukraine and here we are, three, four months later and i'm wasting time on a saturday morning -- this was just for me, not for anybody else. i don't want people screaming and yelling. i'm saying this was my gut. it's usually right on politics. like what am i doing wasting time? i went back to the front page and started reading about putin and crimea and the phone call between president obama and vladimir putin. >> wasting time mean iing? >> wasting my own personal time -- >> about chris christie? >> reading four, five months later about two lanes that were closed. i've been very clear about how i think it's judgment. we were talking yesterday about it, how it affects his judgment, and voters are going to think

that. the further we get away from that, if he is exonerated, and that's a big if, i actually agree with mark. i think he has, within the republican party i think he has more sympathy today than he did before. it may hurt him. again, it may hurt him amongst general election voters but mark was talking about a pathway to the nomination. and i agree with him on that. >> if exonerated is a huge neon caveat we have to put in there. donny, it's such a weak field. go back to november when chris christie was on the cover of "time" magazine. he's not a perfect candidate. in a weak field, if he is exxon rated in a weak field, increased popularity with republican voters if jeb bush doesn't run he has a path. i could see states he could win, money he could raise, issues he could run on being from outside

washington. >> let me be clear, i spoke yesterday with lawrence o'donnell about management issues that this brings up. those are just as relevant today as they were yesterday and they'll be just as relevant six months from now, questions that will hangover him. but just for the sake of primary discussion, i agree with mark. other than jeb bush, he has the straightest path to the nomination if he's exonerated. >> to me, what's interesting -- this is a big if, obviously. you talk about the two lanes thing. in my lifetime, i can't remember anything more egregious, interestingly enough. >> oh, my god. are you kidding me? >> abuse of power that affects -- >> do you know how many mayors, how many governors, how many people have abused their power for petty, political purposes in ways much worse than this? >> a guy who has been anointed the savior of the republican party that to me such an egregious abuse of power.

>> this is the most egregious abuse of power in your lifetime? >> listen to me. >> you have led a pristine lifetime. >> i have not. >> boy in the plastic bubble like you. >> the standards we're used to seeing as far as hookers, this is a guy sitting in an office saying, you know what? i don't like what that mayor did. i'm going to make people sit in their cars for four hours. that rings true with the every man. >> that is the worst abuse of power you have ever seen in your lifetime? >> listen to me. >> from a politician? >> i think that to the every man, that sings such an acute tune that i think it resonates and he will never be elected president and i also think -- the other day all of a sudden the republicans wake up, we need a guy who is electable. there's more margin for error. obviously, jeb bush is. why isn't paul -- there are other people that could be electable. chris christie, i will stand behind it, is damaged goods presidentially in our lifetime. >> even, donny, if the report comes out -- not his internal

report, u.s. attorney's report that says he did nt know about it, a couple of rogue people in his administration? bad management, yes, but not a decision from his office? >> as time will come out even if there is not a straight line on this specific thing, what time will show is that there's a way of doing business. to your point, the management thing. we talked about this ad nauseum. this is a way to do business around him. i've never seen a right hand person working for somebody whose so controlling doing something so rogue t doesn't work that way. i feel very passionately about this. this is not a nighttime msnbc thing. i'm not crusading on this. i really think with human behavior it has stuck with people. i feel strongly about it. we'll see. i've been wrong many times before. coming up on "morning joe," paul ryan is positioning himself for the house ways and means committee chair so say the reports. we'll be checking in with with politico's mike allen.

and terrence mcally's latest production "mothers and sons." first here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. april 1st, finally gotten rid of that miserable month of march. coldest march on record. 1963 shall dulles airport. much of the country now we transition from winter to spring w it comes severe weather season. by average how many tornado weiss have per month. the peak of the season being may, june 2nd. we get tornado outbreaks in april, third most popular month for twisters. an active period from thursday maybe into friday with severe weather this week and even a little bit on wednesday. three storms on the map. it's pretty rare to get three big mature storms like this. two of them are leaving, thankfully. the one on the west coast will be the one responsible as it treks across the country for severe weather in the days ahead. for today, no problems. really nice april 1st across the country. it's a little colder than you like up in minneapolis. it's snowing in duluth.

you kind of signed up for that. southern half of the country is looking pretty nice. by the time we get into wednesday, this is when that storm in the west coast moves into the middle of the country, thunderstorms blossom dallas to kansas city, st. louis, oklahoma city. the area of severe weather is colored in yellow here. mostly large hail, damaging winds possible. isolated tornadoes. not a tornado outbreak at this time expected. by the time we hit thursday, that's when we're looking at a better chance of tornadoes. as far as the snow goes, it's spring. usually you get severe weather in the south, snow in the north. unfortunately for minneapolis and northern wisconsin, they got more snow for you middle of the week. we toent want to talk about that. it's april. let's skate in circles. is that synchronized ice skating? i've never seen this before. more "morning joe" when we return. [ male announcer ] first the cookie at check-in...

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let's take a look at the morning papers, seattle times from the parade of papers, seattle times writes that the death toll in washington state's deadly mudslide now stands at 24. officials also release the names of at least 22 people who are still missing more than a week after the tragedy. governor jay inslee is asking president obama to declare the mudslide a major disaster to speed up aid. inslee says there is at least $10 million in damage. >> detroit free press, gm's ceo

will be on capitol hill talking about a safety defect that's linked to 13 deaths. mary barra will testify. the automaker, they say, knew key information with the defect but failed to disclose it publicly. general motors announced it's recalling another 1.5 million cars because of a different power steering problem. 1.65 million cars have been recalled. >> you used to work for gm, right? >> yes. >> deaths linked to these defects, gm's known about it, reportedly, for a very long time. i don't know that anybody is talking about a cover-up. they certainly did move forward with it. this is really bad news for general motors. >> i'll tell you the best news they have. >> what's that? >> they have a new ceo who is not a 60-year-old white

person -- white guy. it gives them the ability -- a female ceo at gm is a huge deal. >> why? >> gm has been seen as the quintessential old-age company, out of touch. and the fact that -- obviously she is a new ceo. she had nothing to do with it. she's a woman this may sound like a sexist statement. she's kind of a page turner ceo. it gives them permission to continually point to the future. >> she has to be really hard, brutally hard. >> she has nothing to do with it, the new sheriff in town and looks and feels like a new face literally and figuratively for gm. lot of questions to be answered. virginian pilot, lucky couple in virginia has won the lottery three times in two weeks. >> what? that doesn't sound right. >> 50 grand in pick four march 26th and another million dollars

from a scratch-off card. >> what? >> i don't know. >> march 27th. >> come on now. something's not right here. >> i'm not good at math but -- >> play one, two, three, four, five, six. >> come on. >> i don't know. they might have relatives in the lottery. something's not right. >> they picked up their latest prize they told reporters, quote, we're not finished yet. >> wow! >> they're coming back for more. i love it. holy cow. new york daily news, high school senior from long island, new york, is facing a tough decision. all eight ivy league schools sent him acceptance letters. >> holy cow. >> this, by the way, not a problem that i had. i applied to one and i get dear mr. scarborough, you're kidding, right? it was ugly. ivy league colleges and universities have a 9% acceptance rate for incoming freshmen. this student from long island plans on pursuing music and medicine and will be making a

stigs by may 1st. >> wow! >> seriously, how many times does that happen a year? >> that's amazing. >> there is a breed of kid today on such a different level. you talk to these kids who get perfect scores, straight a students, have cure a disease, have sat down and mediated in the mideast. kids today -- i'm sure if you saw this kid beyond -- obviously, his grades, the other stuff. these kids today are incredible. >> these kids today. >> they still love the rock 'n' roll. >> they do love the rock 'n' roll. they love rock, man. what other stuff? litany, smoking weed. >> some do. mostly rock 'n' roll. they like taffy. it's mostly rock 'n' roll. >> i feel good about the future. >> good. >> speaking of the future, you know -- >> i believe mike allen is the future. >> he is. chief white house correspondent at politico, mike allen has a look at the playbook.

good morning. >> good mornin guys. >> let's talk about dave camp announcing his retirement yesterday, republican from michigan and chairman of the powerful ways and means committ committee. with dave camp aside now, who fills that spot? >> well, it's almost certainly going to be paul ryan now the budget chairman. the camp announcement is fascinating. it's a continuation of the retirement of a bunch of senior republicans. the other day when joe and mika were down in d.c. were talking around the table about -- it's no surprise democrats are leaving. they don't think they'll get the house back. to see all these older republicans leaving is surprising. doc hastings, buck mckeon, all these well-known names leaving at once. dave camp who earlier released his fantasy tax reform plan got a lot of guff about it from his

other republicans because it was causing them trouble. now we see why. he wants to put it out there as his marker and we're told that dave camp, in his new life, will find some way, whether it's a foundation or business, to continue promoting these tax reform ideas. paul ryan today will be in the spotlight. everybody is looking at him now as mr. chairman of his dream committee, ways and means. he is almost certain to get that. today he is releasing a budget that shows how he has grown. he has got more politically e ast astute giving people 55 and younger a choice about whether to go into medicare or to accept a subsidy. by giving a choice, he is making it more politically palatable than it was before. >> as you say this is a statement of principles, put out as a fantasy budget.

doesn't mean most of these things will happen. >> campaign document for both sides. republicans don't have to put this out. they want to, to send their message. democrats love to take whacks at it, introduce a bunch of amendments that won't pass just to go on the record against it. >> politico's mike allen. thanks, mike. coming up next, what's driving the markets today? cnbc's brian sullivan fills us in. business before the bell is next. take a closer look at your fidelity green line and you'll see just how much it has to offer, especially if you're thinking of moving an old 401(k) to a fidelity ira. it gives you a wide range of investment options... and the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals -- and what you're really investing for. tap into the full power of your fidelity green line. call today and we'll make it easy

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live look at detroit there. you can see the sun coming up, some of the ice breaking there. brian sullivan, obviously, we have a lot we can expect today from mary barra, the gm -- the ceo, excuse me, of gm, testimony about the company's recall. this just continues to keep building. now we have this other recall. >> yeah. there's been recalls on top of recalls, thomas. good morning. tom costello also detailed it early on in the program. it's a big day for gm. it's actually a big day for detroit. as goes gm so goes michigan and so goes the american economy. probably less true than it used to be but still a valuable company not only for the united

states but for the hard-hit detroit region as well. how mary barra performs today will be a big deal. key questions that members of the house subcommittee will be looking for is whether gm's woes may have contributed, in part, for their decision not to issue the recall then. there's also a question of federal law. when they figured out the problem and they put in the new ignition switch, here is where they may have made a crucial mistake. they did not assign that ignition switch a new parts number. every part is supposed to have a unique code so that if you have a recall you can identify where those cars are that have that part number. for whatever reason, gm did not apparently do that. they kept the original part number. i think that's going to likely be a line of questioning in why gm did not take that step which is, as we understand it here, very normal for companies to do, guy. >> brian, it's donny. two questions. how much of this is already baked into the stock price? earlier in the show i threw out a thought obviously this is a

very, very serious situation for gm. but the fact that not only do they have a new ceo but a new female ceo, so revolutionary in that business, gives them the opportunity to pivot a lot faster than ordinary would be the case. >> to your first point, i think it's baked in a lot. i think we'll have to wait and see how much more. donny, the dow is basically flat, down a couple of tenths of a percent for the year. gm stock is down 16% for the year, far underperforming the benchmark index. probably more importantly concerns about future sales. if you're thinking about getting a gm product and you're reading recall, recall, recall, will that impact your decision to go to the dealer lots? can't speak for everybody. certainly it's on some people's minds. the folks we talked to in the industry, they feel, female or not, a new ceo donny, you ran a company -- stepping into this position, all of a sudden you take over the company. one of the biggest, most complex

in the world and it doesn't matter what your gender is, you're blind sided by this news, how do you run the company? all your time is spent with dealing with this problem that was really ten years ago. you're just trying to produce and sell the best cars you can and this is all that anybody wants to talk about now. >> brian, any idea what happens when something like this occurs at the dealer level? in other words do they give talking opponents to the dealers to smooth things over to minimize the impact on sales? >> we had a dealer on our show, 2:00 eastern, "street signs," who said we'll step up our loaner program. gm has offered dealers an extra incentive to provide a loaner car to each person who comes in, trying to make it as easy as possible for customers to come in, do the recall, the fix, whatever they need to do on their cars. i'm sure it's a very difficult time for gm dealers. they're going to want to say here is why you should bite new cruz and the new silverado. instead they're spending a good

deal of time talking about a recall that was ten years ago and well above the local dealership level. it's got to be a hard time for everybody at gm right now. >> certainly really hard for mary barra who has to fix this on a level of the company for gm for government standards but for the families that lost a loved one they can never be made whole. >> no, 13. >> brian sullivan, thank you, sir. >> thank you. new play tackles the ever-changing definition of family and the true meaning of forgiveness. tyne daily and clarence mcnally of "mothers and sons" join us next. i was there saturday night. love the play. we'll be back after this. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest.

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>> he can be a terrible snob, too. >> he was barely 18 when he left texas. that's too young to come to a city like new york. >> as a young gay man he didn't feel comfortable where he was. >> he wasn't gay when he came to new york. >> okay. >> one of the many brilliant moments seen there from the play "mothers and sons." with us here now co-star tyne daly and playwright. i was there saturday night. it was fantastic. it was so great. tyne, you're fantastic. the writing is funny. it's deep. but for you, terrence, let's start with you real quickly about how you came to put this together because we jump-start right into it when the curtain comes up on the relationship

that -- >> a lot has happened in america and life in the past 25, 30 years. and i want to write about it. immediately what's going on right now. and that's -- to have a writer, an actress like tyne, you can jump-start because she's zero to 60 in about five seconds. i wrote the part for her. >> it's really fantastic. we have come a long way, as terrence points out. your character kind of picks up 20 years later, after losing her son, andre. you come into the life of andre's former partner. >> yes. >> whose life has picked up. so, how interesting was it for you to pick up this character of katherine, be able to interpret all the changes she goes through in the play under two hours? >> well, she's frozen. she's frozen in grief. she's frozen in time. she's kind of stuck. and the spectacular pace at which the country has changed socially and legally is

perplexing to her. the other characters are beautiful but they -- but what terrence has done so well is to do a generational play about attitudes, you know, of a woman my age, middle aged man whose life is half closet and now open, the new gay man who has never apologized about his sexuality and the little boy who is the innocent. so with those four points of view, we get to cover a lot of territory. >> terrence, groundbreaking. first time we're seeing a married, legally married gay couple on broadway. >> it is. >> it will permeate the media everywhere. it's fantastic. >> we've come such a long way. and this is all in my lifetime. and i'm 75. and i wanted to be able get all that down on paper while i'm still able to do it. and this play poured out of me. i've never been happier with a production. this play was written just about a year ago and we're on broadway today. >> to me i'm always so blown

away. the people who put it on the page. where did it start? give me the moment where you said, okay, this is ruminating up there. >> this particular play, they said do you want to write a play for tyne daly? we need a script in a month. it was like a deadline, newspaper deadline. >> no pressure. >> the minute i sat down i thought this is what i want to write about, how much my life has changed, your life has changed. we all have been impacted by this enormous social change. and it's still going on. we still have a ways to go. i wanted to celebrate how far we've come and think about where we are and contemplate the future. so, that was pretty -- >> as a gay guy, you're sitting there, you're watching that. >> yeah. >> obviously, certain chords are hitting with you. how proud and excited and fill in the blanks you must have felt sitting there. >> i love it. i was sit iting there with my

husband, patrick. we have been together 14 years, got married almost two years ago. it's great to see this type of -- i don't want to call it a documentary, but it's a great way of revealing the everyday lives of this modern day family. kind of meeting their former mother-in-law, one of the husbands. >> right. >> and bringing her up to speed on what can be a modern family. it's a beautiful thing. >> part of what's interesting is the redefinition of family, understanding what family means on a deeper level than just categories. mom, dad. dad goes tout work and mom stays home and does cookies. that's an idea that has gone away from american life. >> i deal with that. i'm a single dad with two daughters. >> yeah. >> i still have to sometimes explain away what's going on. and my answer is always this is the new traditional family, young traditional family. >> she's not the only girl in school who's got a different

dynamic than mom and dad and one and a half cybisiblings. when the little boy says he learned about aids in school and he's a little boy and you go, oh, yeah, he did. that's not a subject that is taboo. >> of course. >> what does it mean to write a play for a particular actress? how does that work? >> it means you have a very good idea of what it's going to sound like, act like, feel like. and a great actress like tyne even surpasses that. writing is very lonely. it's nice to know you have tyne in your head. of course, she could have read the play and said i don't want to be in it. of course, she did. but tyne and i worked on a play about two years ago. and she inspired me and thrilled me. she's a real stage actress. she plants her feet and acts. she doesn't mumble. she doesn't go, i know what you mean. she says the word. >> and the theater is all about the words. >> in the back row. i like all that. i'm very traditional. >> well, when i've got a writer

like this, though, al you have to do is be true to the words and the puncture waation. >> i want a comma. you're giving me a semicolon. >> not only is it deep it's funny. >> she's a brilliant comedian, tears your heart out one second and has you -- the play is about now, how we're living now. there are not a lot of new american plays on broadway. this is not about the history. it's about right now. i'm very proud of that. >> mutual admiration society between two artists. we're so lucky to have you both here. i'll point out katherine is very attached to her mink coat in the beginning. >> it's a suit of armor. >> it definitely is a suit of armor. "mothers and sons" is playing at the golden theater in new york

city. i highly recommend it. donny deutsch will be there this weekend. >> saturday. >> visit "mothers and sons" on broadway. tyne daly, terrence mcnally. >> thanks for having us.

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