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recalling millions of cars a decade too late. afghanistan looking to reinvent their country with a new president. and major league baseball lands a spot in our heroes and zeros with its instant replay developments. looking at things they previously couldn't examine after the fact. it's all ahead, but it's not too late to look at our headlines. new trouble for general motors. the company's head comes face to face with lawmakers following an emotional meeting she had with the families of accident victims last night. >> we have apologized. the united states is in talks with israel about releasing spy jonathan pollard early. >> part of a former navy analyst is serving time for spying for israel. >> the cia may have misled the government for years. >> officials exaggerated the significance gained through prisoners from coercive methods.
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>> the new "washington post" poll showing a 9-point rever tall in favor of the plan from november. >> i'm proud to stand with winston churchill and proud to stand. i got to say my wife was fairly astonished. >> you have a tattoo of winston churchill? >> i will note if you look at the calendar, it might suggest something about what you're saying. i'll leave that to others to figure it out. winston churchill, really? just one hour from now, some serious news. new ceo of general motors mary b barra is going to testify before a congressional committee on a question that a lot of americans are pondering today. what took gm so long and did so many people have to die? that question packs the biggest punch emotionally for those
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families who had relatives killed in the crashes related to flawed ignition switches in gm vehicles. last night barra met one-on-one with the families and they spoke to the press late this morning. >> my wife lost everything. natasha was her only child. no boyfriend troubles, no wedding day jitters, no children for natasha. no family member to care for her as she grows older. just a forever hole in her heart for the daughter she so loved. >> a hole in their hearts, prepared remarks barra plans to apologize again on behalf of gm saying "sitting here today, i cannot tell you why it took years. the defect has killed 13 people between those ignition switch problems and another issue revealed just yesterday involving power steering. gm recalled 3.9 million cars.
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that is million. but is it enough? that's the question that will be contemplated on the hill today, and it's not just gm's ceo testifying, it's the acting head of the national highway traffic and safety administration. documents given to congress suggest that that agency repeatedly declined to order recalls years ago. despite mounting evidence that crashes were occurring. joining me is amen javers. you know a lot about that corporate arena. tell us about accountability. she's expected to say "today gm will do the right thing. that begins with my sincere apologies to everyone that's been affected by this recall." there's been speculation that those could extend to some settlements. in light after that do you think we could see the number of
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deaths go up over the coming days? >> clearly, the lawyers involved who represent some of the family members that you were just playing definitely want to find out if there are more people who could be added to a potential lawsuit going forward. if there are more deaths related to the issue. in the past hourks we're learning from democrats on this committee that they have done a new analysis. this one of warranty claims going back from 2003 until 2012 and what they found are 133 different cases in which this ignition switch shut off issue was reported. customers reporting things like, hey, when i go over a pothole, my car shuts off. this happens sometimes at 50 miles an hour. that's scary stuff. and it indicates there might be other cases out there that we haven't heard of yet. >> it is a nightmare, something we all understand is so terrifying. do you think in light of that, this could become a criminal probe over time? >> criminality requires a
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different legal threshold to prove. you'll see this stay on the civil side unless we see dramatic new evidence. for now the question is why did gm stall so long in issuing the recalls? mary barra in her prepared testimony in an hour says she still doesn't know. she's the ceo of this company. she doesn't know the answer why it took gm so long. she's going to try to get to the bottom of it and is going to tell congress as soon as she has that information. >> thank you, appreciate it. it's not just general motors. it's also the oversight organization that was supposed to monitor these kinds of safety shortfalls. that's the national highway traffic and safety administration. and they could have, critics says, forced gm on these recalls. the head of that organization is expectsed to point the finger back at gm saying "gm had critical information that would have helped identify this defect." to dig into this side of the
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issue, the oversight issue that is getting a lot of people angry at our government right now, is former labor secretary robert reich. he's the author of the book "aftershock." tell us what kind of heat is this organization, the national highway traffic and safety administration facing right now? >> it's a lot of heat. obviously it did not act. when a regulatory agency that is there to oversee and prevent these kinds of tragedies does not act, everybody wants to know why. just like they want to know why gm didn't do anything. the problems here are deep. number one, the agency's enforcement budget has been steadily cut over the last few years. number two, there's a lot of kind of a switching back and forth. the perennial revolving door between the industry and the overseers. this is true of the national
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traffic highway safety administration as it is of other agencies. there's got to be a moratorium on the work that people can do if they are in government, for industry, and vice versa. number three, you have a system in which gm or any company when it makes a settlement out of court with people who have had problems in this case with ignitions, they don't have to be reported back to the safety administration. so the safety administration doesn't even know very often about settlements. >> let's talk about the first issue, the budget cuts. they are rational for not having investigated this previously. do you think that's partly because of the cuts and they are not having enough resources to investigate? they are getting pillared in the fact that "the new york times" reported yesterday that they have often investigated on the basis of far less evidence, far smaller sample sizes. >> it's hard to tell.
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the budget of the agency has been cut. one tactic that congress has been using when it doesn't like a particular regulatory agent circumstances doesn't like enforcement of this agency, there's a tactic used by republicans to simply gut the appropriation for that agency and over the last ten years indeed republican congress has done that. that can't be the whole answer. the revolving door is also part of the problem. >> on that subject of the revolving door, how big a problem is this in general between corporate interests that have political stakes in washington on the hill even beyond the auto industry? is this something that needs to be regulated? we have seen reports how this specific investigation there are former gm officials now on the investigative side. there are a lot of phone calls and not obligated to record the minutes and we don't know what's happening in those back and forths. >> the revolving door is a huge problem. whether we're talking about gm or the auto industry or even
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wall street. we have got government officials who are taking positions after having regulated or having some oversight of these industries within a year or two or maybe a six-month just to make things look good. the statutes on the books that prevent or putatively designed to prevent this kind of revolving door are not nearly strong enough. you have half members of congress, almost half the members of congress are becoming lobbyists when they leave congress. that should not even be allowed because what are they lobbying for? for the industries that many of these members of congress had responsibilities for overseeing. >> it is really, really troubling. thank you for that overview. stay with us. just ahead on the show, we're going to open the books on a controversial new budget released by congressman paul ryan. just hours ago, stay with us for that. ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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we will be back with our guests secretary reich in a moment. but first, an update. just hours ago house chairman paul ryan revealed his latest budget ready to be voted on tomorrow. right off the bat, the plan calls for repeal of the health care law including all the subsidies that go with it and the medicaid expansion. a key part of that proposal, it slashes the food stamp program and bringing back work requirements. it also cuts subsidies to pgs along with the national endowments for the arts and humanities saying funding goes beyond the federal government.
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an age of access in doing all of this, the budget cuts spending by $5.1 trillion over ten years. thereby balancing the budget by then. and reforms to medicare, medicaid and social security are also part of this. a lot of critiques to the current regime and ideas on how to cut spending and in paul ryan's terms get the poor back to work rather than relying on handouts. the white house responded to this budget. "republicans in congress do not have a plan that works for the middle class and the house republican budget is the same old top-down approach the house budget would stack the deck against the middle class." so is the ryan budget just like the obama budget essentially symbolic? not just that can get through the hill? back to look at this and whether this is right for the country is robert reich, an economist who served as labor secretary and ed
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connor, former managing director at bain capital and a key fundraiser for the romney campaign. paul ryan emphasized inner city plight, he's gone on listening tours focusing on poverty. does he discredit his own pro-poverty focused kcredential? >> he announced the budget or at least the preliminary budget today by saying that this would help the poor because it would help them get off welfare dependence. it doesn't just get them off welfare dependence. this slices not only food stamps, but every program that the poor depend on in this country. this is not an april fool's joke. however, this is not really a budget. this is really paul ryan's and republicans plan. this is their campaign platform from 2014 and paul ryan's platform from 2016. so don't take it seriously as a
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budget. but it is crucial and unusual and ought to be barred to the constitution. >> those are strong words. tell us how you really feel. i want to drill down on that in a second. interesting point that it is primarily political signaling. let's go to ed. how do you think the budget as extreme as you just heard it is in secretary reich's terms, how is it it different from previous budgets? paul ryan has come out with splashy announcements. >> i don't think it's that much different. it's a philosophical issue whether we're going to increase spending from a high level of 22% of gdp or bring it back in line withes s es i historical l. what sacrifices and compromises would we have to make. i think it's unfair to say that the budget is bad for the middle class. i do think the budget is perhaps bad for the poor. it certainly targets cuts at poverty more than it targets cuts at the middle class.
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the question is do you want tax increases to pay for increased spending because this is $5 trillion of cuts from increases in spending over time. so the question is do you want to increase taxes on the u.s. economy? principally the innovators who have driven the economy to pay for increased government spending or hold it in line with historical standards? >> let's look at how the public answers that question. in our latest poll, 69% of pe re respondents say they were less likely to vote for a candidate who supports reductions in social security. do you think that this is something that is an effective political signal? >> i think this plays to people who are getting social security and medicare because it's saying we're going to cut in other areas to preserve those programs as much as we can. when you run the numbers out over time, it's going to be off.
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we have to preserve these for your generation, but it's a political statement in the sense that it's trying to preserve these benefits for the baby boomers. and perhaps it does it at the expense of the poverty programs. >> so you find this consistent though with his focus on the poor. >> i would remind you of this. we have increased spending on the poor from 1980s, 1990s to close to $20,000 today. i think one thing people would have to scratch their head and say what have we achieved with that? we have certainly soothed material needs, but have we gotten higher graduation rates, an environment that will help the children coming through poverty president bush we have scratched it. >> a lot of democrats have come out and said this is an unacceptable budget, similar to what you were describing. could this be used as a way that the right has often used
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obamacare? >> it's going to try to be used. the republicans have tried to split the middle class from the poor saying the poor are your enemies. they are different from you. you have to pay taxes and they are lazy. but the problem is that increasing numbers of middle class people are actually becoming poor or are being poor for a particular length of time. this economy is a very bad economy in case you haven't noticed. and a lot of of the increases in spending on the poor are really increases in spending on everybody who has lost jobs, not because they have been lazy, but because they have actually simply been part of a very, very bad economy. the other point to make is that this is not a deficit-reducing budget with regard to cutting programs for the poor. it increases spending on the military. and that's important to understand. this is a republican budget. >> all right, well, there's obviously a disagreement.
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i think there are certainly elements of the atmospherics of what the congressman are emphasizing that are worth looking at. thank you both for joining us. you can look at new product by both of our guests. the book from mr. connor "unintended consequences." and secretary reich's film is available on netflix. we mentioned to both of you that obamacare is a big issue plit clolitically in the same 2. president obama will have remarks at 4:15 on air right here. let's turn for a moments to a big piece of international news. registration is underway right now for this coming weekend's elections in afghanistan. and despite devastating acts of violence that have prompted international watchers, people
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are still trying to get out in force on this. those pivotal elections are now five days away set for saturday. there are a lot of questions about what the situation will look like by the time we get to that day. among those vying for the job, there are a few e emerging favors in the chatter. our foreign correspondent richard engel has been talking to all those people. what do they have their eyes on the ground there? >> good to talk to you. there are three leading c contenders in these presidential elections. the favorite at this stage is probably abdullah. that was considered widely corrupt. he dropped out of a runoff. he didn't want to give karzai any legitimacy and that election process any credibility so he dropped out. he's coming back again and has a good shot. abdullah abdullah is very
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anti-taliban. he's from the northern alliance. he could be quite a divisive figure. he doesn't have much support in the east and the south. you could see intensity increase. another candidate is an academic, he spent a lot of time working financial institutions. >> very american-friendly. >> well known among the international donor community here. and ashraf is a unique personality. he's been very outspoken in his speeches. he's considered somewhat erratic. he's at times very pro-american. at times very anti-american. so his personality could work for or against him if you like
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his personality. and the last is perhaps the least known candidate, he is an older man, zalmai. he's a distant member of the royal family and close to president karzai. he's his last serving foreign minister. people don't know a whole lot about him, they just know he was close to karzai and considered part of the apparatus of the state and people are concerned about his ongoing ties to president karzai. >> thank you so much, richard engel. that's a very helpful scene setter. interesting how some candidates as cozy as they are, as much time they spend walking the halls of the state department, in the field, they are inpredictable. we'll be watching closely and stay safe out there. >> sure. just ahead on the program, we'll ask you to tell us what your most underreported story is this week. and we are waiting for secretary kerry to deliver
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too often into crime. here's what we'd like you to do and you have already been doing in force. call your local school and ask what programs they have for at-risk youth. and tell us, do you think it's enough? send your responses to us on facebook or e-mail. we're also going to bring you a different perspective on this challenge every day of the week. and today we look to the arts as a way of chronicling the problem and potentially as a solution. for that, i'm going to bring in anna smith, who is on "nurse jacki." he's also a play right who won the humanities medal from president obama. and whose latest project focuses on this exact problem. the school system turning kids to prooi violent crime. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for being paising attention to this issue. >> your most recent project involved interviewing school
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faculty. what's the biggest challenge they have raised? >> one of the biggest challenges is that we're frankly asking a lot of our school when is many of the problems that these young people face have to deal with poverty, which is a larger realm of inequity in society. one of the issues i would say is if kids are not in school, they are in trouble. so if they are getting kicked out of school, the likelihood to get back to it and be able to find what probably many of your viewers have is basic joy in education is pretty slim. >> what's the most moving story you have heard from them? >> i would never play favorites. my mother had five children and never did that. suffice it to say, i'm meeting all kinds of people and the good news is there's a lot of people, judges, teachers, parents who are all about exactly what this report is asking us to pay attention to. do we need to have a society which is as punitive as it is right now?
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i think we're in the midst of a sea change, which is a positive one and i'm pleased to see the data is supporting what a lot of people having doing in their schools and communities to try to turn this around and bring fairness back to the schools. >> let's talk about the arts as a potential solution to this. you're a play wright yourself. have you seen arts education as an avenue of keeping kids away from crime? >> poor schools don't have art of any kind. i was just in philadelphia where guidance counselorers and nurses have been released. if kids have a chance to do something that engages them, art is one of those opportunities to engage people in something that they might like, but also to have them become more engaged citizens. that's what art helps us to do. i was just talking to david harris. some of you remember him as a '60s activist. he had a great question, which is what happened to education? when did it stop being about relationships? when did it become a commodity?
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art is one of the many tools as well as sports and counselors and people in communities have a way to create relationships with kids and i think and with teachers to make education what it should be. a place where we get turned on to new ideas. >> right. that happens so infrequently. one minority that's been hit hardest and chronicled in the report is the native american population, who have the second highest rate of suspensions after african-americans. why do you think they are particularly hard hit? you have been speaking to people in that community. >> i have been able to visit a tribe many northern california. one of the things if you start to talk this week with folks, you'll hear people talk about a lot is historical trauma. as an african-american, i certainly know about what slavery has done in the long-term and the genocide that hit native americans is
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something they are still reeling from in many ways. there's sometimes not a lot of things for kids to do on these reservations. i think the statistics will show you a high rate in teen suicide among native american youth. i'm pleased that the report does look at native americans because this is a community that's often left out of the discussion. >> thank you for not leaving that and this entire issue out of the discussion. thank you for the stand you're taking. we're going to turn to you now. do you think arts session a good solution? keep calling your schools and letting us know what programs they have many place and whether you think it's enough. we'll be sharing more perspectives and carrying more of yours. you can tweet us or send word on facebook or e-mail. you're looking right now, i think we're going to go to live pictures from brussels where we're awaiting a news conference from secretary of state john kerry. he's been in nato meetings and
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now. the former college athletes leading the evident are heading to washington this week to make their case to members of congress. that effort is being led by the president of the college athletes players association and also with us is former orvesive lineman roman o'ben who is a sports broadcaster. you're going to be visiting with members of congress this week. tell us what you hope they will do. it's not a government issue. this is about schools. >> i think raising awareness in congress is important. congress is actually a piece on the chess board. obviously, we had a major ruling go in our favor and that's under existing laws they should have labor rights and be able to sit at table when discussing physical and financial protections. obviously, there's a possibility that a law could change and we want to make sure that people in congress are aware of exactly what we're trying to do and why
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we're doing it. >> you're trying to prevent bad legislation and also saying under the current laws you need those to be imlemted. >> that's true. there's a role for congress. i think this process, as you mentioned, northwestern has options to appeal. in the meantime players are at risk. some of the policies that should be in place are not. and they refuse to open the door and have a discussion. they refuse to implement what the nfl players have negotiated. so congress could play a role in ha area as well. >> let's kbo to you on the professional side of the story. what are you hearing from nfl players? you were in the sport professionally for ten years. is there census on this issue? >> i think a lot of nfl players are happy we have gotten to this point. this is one step closer to assure college athletes get paid. >> you think they should? >> i think it's an argument
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that's been here for years. i think they should get some form -- they get compensation. they get $100,000 worth of scholarship or $250,000 worth of scholarship. but again, a lot of college athletes we have had this discussion based on these top programs that make like the oklahomas, uscs, whoever. but most college athletes like stanford don't lead the l charge financially but they care about the bigger picture. and i think in terms of scholarship money or things you can get after the scholarship, that's what we should be discussing. >> you're finding that the pro crowd on this to be sympathetic to the argument? >> they said it's a small victory against the machine. the machine being the ncaa. the machine that won't budge. now you have to go to congress. and i think the bik big picture, why does congress care about what's going on in sports? but i'm glad that this is going
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to congress. >> a lot of people around the country seem to be particularly fans of college sports, what do you think to those on the other hand argue, as we were just hearing, scholarships are substantial. her getting free rides out of this. there's already compensation. >> we agree college athletes are compensated and that's why we won the ruling. they are compensated on condition they play football for the school. it's not a free ride. they are not gifts. we proved that conclusively. >> they come with 40 to 50 hours a week of work. >> in what terms of compensation is not salaries. we're talking about health coverage. if a college athlete gets injured, they might get stuck with the medical bill. especially former players. we want to make sure that players that have permanent injuries don't lose their scholarships. we want concussion reform and see an educational trust fund set up to encourage to graduate.
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those are the things we're pushing for. >> that's one of the big issues, the health risk. you're talking about football, a sport where there's mounting evidence of head injuries. a lot of risks. every pro player has experienced injuries of one kind or another. what do you say to that side of the issue? >> exactly because 98% of the college athletes don't make it to the nfl and get the big lofty contracts, you do have a lot of kids that come out of college at 21, 22 years old with debilitating injuries. we have another crop of freshmen coming in. something does need to be solved as far as health care, workman's comp is a big issue. i know that on the coach's side, some people i have spoken to privately said if a kid gets a scholarship guaranteed, he might tank it. now he's not going to go as hard because he's not incentivized. >> so it's not good for the
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sport? >> coaches look at it than student athletes. we would like to have a standardization of what everyone accepts and believes and being proactive about fixing the problem. the problem is flawed and that's why we're here. >> obviously, we're talking about big money sports. we're talking about football, for instance, where there are revenues coming in and that can provide. what about no revenue sports? what happens in the wake of a pro unionization outcome of this to college curling? >> you know, right now we're starting with football and basketball because they are the strongest arguments. it's possible under the labor law, the players in the nonrevenue sports also have protections and the right to unionize. right now there's over $1.2 billion in brand new revenue come manager right now. we know how the money is spent. it goes to salaries and facilities. we're arguing that some of the money needs to be redirected so they are not stuck with injuries. >> have you seen some of these
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examples of big fights happening with schools pit players against administrations? has that been the hard part of the fight? >> not really. but just to backtrack, we were talking about the nfl and what's being done on the injury side. you're seeing the fines and the penalties and care about the health. but it's not really trickling down to what the ncaa is doing for college athletes. there's always the chevrolet player of the game gets $5,000 donated to his school on his behalf. there's a $1.2 billion, so there's a lot more money that can be given to some of the athletes after college. it's not just going to coach's salaries. >> what do you think the people at home should do about this? calling into their local state colleges, petitioning, carrying signs to games what kind of response are you looking for? >> the lawmakers would be a pivotal point. congress has the ability to regulate the ncaa.
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we have gone state to state and the states are powerless. the ncaa would punish the schools in the schools. so congress has the power. people can talk to their congressman. get involved on social media. raising awareness and forcing the media. we're not talking about salaries, we're talking about health and safety and critical protections. we have players in college have the same risks as guys in the nfl. a player from penn committed suicide. he was found to have a degenerative brain condition found in players like junior seau. we don't have the luxury to sit around and pray that the college presidents grow a conscious. we have to act. >> it's an important point that there are real human consequences and you're not talking about money for players, you're talking about basic protections. thank you to both of you. stick around. we're still awaiting news on that news conference from
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we are back now with our sports panel extraordinaire, ramogi huma and roman oben, former nfl offensive lineman. we're going to get their thoughts on today's heroes and zeros. so moments ago the winners of last year's world series, the boston red sox, were honored at the white house. you see them there. so i think the red sox are a pretty choice for today's heroes. what do you think, thumbs up, guys? yeah? all right. >> i always have a soft spot -- >> you're a yankees fan. >> well, i played on the 2002 tampa bay team. we didn't get the president so wee still waiting to visit the
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white house. >> some sour grapes. okay, okay. and we're going to also tip our hat to derek jeter. this is his final season and today is his last ever opening day. on a more controversial note, we turn now to baseball's newly expanded instant replay challenge, which allows a limited number of requests for umpires to go to videotape to determine whether or not they have called the play correctly. yesterday atlanta braves manager fredi gonzalez became the very first to win a replay challenge. here is the historic moment. >> right off the end of the bat. slow roller johnson, bobbles, throws and it's safe. close call at first base. >> this would be a good time for fredi gonzalez to use his challenge. >> and now the call and he's out. and this call overturned. >> all right. what do you guys think? it's changing the pace of the game a bit, people are freaking out a little bit. do you think that use of the rule should be our zero today?
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>> i think so. i'm going to miss all the umpire and manager arguments and face to face. >> it's a slow enough sport already, don't kill me, fans. >> exactly. >> all right. well, no disagreement there? >> actually, i'm for it. i like to see -- when i'm watching something, i like to see them get it right. >> all right, we got a split vote on both of these things. thank you, gentlemen. a pleasure to have you here. and that wraps up things for today's edition of "ronan farrow daily." you can catch my shows weekdays at 1:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc. now it is time for "the reid report" with joy reid. >> happy april fool's day. thank you very much so much. appreciate it. coming up next on "the reid report" just minutes from now the head of general motors will face congress over auto defects that led to over a dozen deaths. who knew what and when? then the explosive report that exposes new concerns about the cia's interrogation tactics during the bush administration. all that and more just minutes
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good afternoon, everyone, it's tuesday, april 1st. the sins of the george w. bush administration have come back to haunt the war on terror as a blockbuster senate report accuses the cia of deliberately misleading the country about its interrogation tactics, including the use of what the bush administration called enhanced interrogation techniques but which were known by many more by the name torture. we'll bring you more later in the show. first, it's april fool's day but the grilling that general motors is facing on capitol hill today is no joke. we're awaiting the start of hearings in the house energy and commerce committee. the theme is the gm ignition switch recall, why did it take so long.
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and that's an appropriate question, considering that the first of at least a dozen deaths related to faulty ignition switches in chevy cobalts, saturn ions and a number of other gm vehicles happened back in 2005. according to the timeline in this congressional document, ignition switch issues were flagged as early as 2001 in a preproduction report for the 2003 saturn ion. but it wasn't until february 10th of 2014, more than a decade later, that gm began recalling vehicles over this ignition defect. that was followed by an expanded recall in february and another just days ago covering all model years of these gm made vehicles for a total of nearly 2.2 million vehicles in the u.s. and 2.6 million worldwide. just moments from now, newly installed general motors ceo, mary barra, will publicly apologize for her company and for decisions made by her predecessors. including the alleged rejection
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of several proposed fixes, all at a time when the company was falling into a financial hole that culminated in a record bankruptcy filing and an epic government bailout. later, as company sales began to recover, it appears gm was still protecting its bottom line instead of its customers. gm is doing an internal investigation and promises to be open with the public on its findings. no matter what the reality is, the perception of those cold calculations are the legacy mary barra will have to answer for. on monday she met with victims' families who stood beside lawmakers this morning asking for answers. >> it is clear that gm is only concerned with their bottom line and not the safety of our loved ones. >> our daughters, sons, sisters, brothers, mothers, fathers, wives and husbands are gone because they were a cost of doing business gm's e.
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