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>> it angers me that we had a situation that took over a decade to correct, and i am working day and night to make sure we correct this issue, we learn from it, and it never happens again. >> testimony part two set to start on capitol hill. can mary barra satisfy grieving families and a skeptical congress? we'll talk to the mother and brother of a woman killed in 2009. we know how he feels about obamaca obamacare, but what will he say about paul ryan's latest budget pass? the big one, 8.0 quake off the coast of chile and the sound of tsunami sirens. we'll have the latest video as the sun comes up in south america. pushing another important domestic for democrats, raising
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the minimum wage. the president once again calling on congress to bump the minimum wage to $10.10. at the university of michigan, he'll offer comparisons to henry ford, who doubled the money he paid his workers because he said it was good for business. the president will point to costco and gap as modern day examples. the president might have an extra swing in his step over the news 7.1 million americans signed up for obamacare, and he was defiant in the face of ongoing attempts by republicans to repeal obamacare. >> i got to admit, i don't get it. why are folks working so hard for people not to have health insurance? why are they so mad about the idea of folks having health insurance? >> so any minute we will hear from john boehner, who has resided over 60-plus votes to repeal or change the health care law. let me bring in our company, ryan grimm, ruth marcus is
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columnist for "the washington post." good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> you have what have been overwhelmingly positive headlines on health care and a huge turnaround in how much momentum the president is carrying today. look, we've got this new poll from quinnipiac that shows people are evenly split, in fact, a little bit favoring the democrats there, ryan, on who they would vote for in congressional races. has the momentum shifted? >> i think it certainly has shifted, and we'll see how deeply this penetrates and whether candidates start running towards obamacare instead of away from it with this good news here, but it's kind of a remarkable state of affairs in politics, where we're having fundamental discussions about what kind of a society do we want here. talking about health care and wages is quite a departure from what the american political system is used to. we're asking the question if you get laid off, should that be a death sentence, should, you
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know, do you need a job to have it tied to health care and if you work full time, if you put in 40 hours, should you be living in poverty? right now, the federal minimum wage leaves you in poverty, and even the proposal coming from some moderate democrats of $9 an hour, that would still leave them in poverty. these are really basic questions that the system's grappling with. >> even some of the states that raised the minimum wage to $10.10, that's over a period of years, doesn't happen immediately. you have health care, minimum wage with the midterms looming. 58% of voters are more likely, ruth, to support a candidate who supports raising the minimum wage, but your colleague, kathleen parker, writes today that democrats are acting desperately, "this is not exactly a paradigm shifting strategy, minimum wage debates are like funeral suits, you keep them handy for glum times when respect for dying ideas must be paid." to that point, are the democrats
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putting too much emphasis on that? >> too much emphasis compared to what? let's go back to health care for a second, 7.1 is a heck of a lot better than 6.1 or whatever, but i think that the notion that candidates are going to start running towards obamacare instead of away from it, especially those in danger, senate democrats in reddish states, that might be a little overoptimistic from the democratic point of view, so then the question is, if obamacare is still going to be something of a drag, which i'm afraid it's going to be in certain states, what is the kind of thing that can help democrats get their voters motivated, help get them to the polls, minimum wage is, raising the minimum wage is substantively a good idea and politically, because substantively it's not going to happen, it's not going to get past the house, but politically, it's a darn good thing to be running with, so i have to respectfully disagree with my colleague, kathleen parker.
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>> let me go back to health care for a second, and to your point, if you listened to the president yesterday, which i know you did, it seemed he was also thinking about his legacy. listen to this. >> you know, in the end, history is not kind to those who would deny americans their basic economic security. nobody remembers well those who stand in the way of america's progress or our people. that's what the affordable care act represents. >> ryan, health care's, obviously, an undeniable part of the president's legacy, but will it also be judged by whether democrats can hold on to the senate? republicans have been blatantly daring the president to go to places like louisiana and arkansas, where the mary less than drew and mark pryors are in tough races. >> the president is still going to be the president for another
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two years, so they are not going to have any opportunity to repeal it, and the way the democrats national coalition is built, it's leaning towards them holding the white house again for the next four years, which means they have very little opportunity to roll it back. if you take a state like kentucky, for instance, sure, i don't think the democratic candidate wants obama to come in there. his approval rating in kentucky is probably in the 30s, but almost half of the uninsured in kentucky have been insured as a result of obamacare. that's a tremendous benefit to the people of kentucky. you know, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people who didn't have insurance, who now have it, and mcconnell has made the centerpiece of his campaign that he wants to repeal it. he's going to have some awkward conversations with voters over the next couple months before november. >> the question's been raised many times by the democrats, what's the republican alternative. let me play what senator dan coats said. >> republicans do have a
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responsibility if they don't like this, and we don't, and the people don't like it, and they don't, how would we deal with it, and that's the next step republicans have to take, which is put the alternative in place and give people the choice in november. >> it's interesting, today bobby jindal is coming out with an alternative, ruth, he's not even in congress. republicans don't have, at least a coalesced around back-up plan, and they can't believe repeal is plausible, so what's the next step, just take it on the campaign trail? >> yes, that's the immediate next step, but there's a couple next steps. the republican alternatives are interesting because they tend to boil down to, let's keep all the parts of the affordable care act, no pre-existing conditions, keep your kids on your insurance, whatever. let's keep all the cards that we like and get rid of the taxes and the parts that we don't like, but by the way, let's assume that we're going to be saving money. and so it's not a very realistic alternative to the extent that
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i've seen the plans laid out. at the same time, i think looking forward past the november elections, whatever happens with the senate, there are a lot of tests ahead for the affordable care act. not just how many people sign up, but what happens to premiums, whether there are continued glitches not in the signups, but in insurers getting paid in the system, what happens not just to cost, but to quality, and the verdict on obamacare is not going to be the verdict that's rendered in november. it's going to be the verdict that's rendered five years from now. probably at the earliest, as we see, this is an enormous part of the economy. it's 18% of gross domestic product that's being spent on health care. to make these changes has all sorts of ripple effects, which causes voters to squeal in the short term, and we'll see, i hope it turns out well. i'm reasonably confident it's going to turn out well in the longer turn. >> ruth marcus, ryan grimm.
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great to talk to both of you. again, the president going out on the road. we'll have president obama's remarks for you today 3:00 eastern time right here on msnbc. checking the news feed this morning, a magnitude 8.2 earthquake hit off the coast of northern chile overnight, triggering small tsunami, landslides, and power outages. at least six people were killed, 300 female prisoners managed to escape in the aftermath. there have been more than three dozen aftershocks over magnitude 5.0. earthquakes happen daily, but it's been a particularly active seismic area, including the quake in the los angeles area on friday. passengers aboard missing flight 370 have been cleared. the focus, though, still on that cabin crew and what is officially a criminal investigation. actually, the cockpit crew. it's day 26 and searchers off the coast of australia still haven't found anything. also today, the families of the missing passengers met with malaysian officials in kuala
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lumpur, the meeting closed to reporters. just how massive and devastating the mudslide in oso, washington, was, more than a week ago. the death toll at 28, another 20 still missing. previously flooded areas have been drying out, and that allowed search teams to take the search there. we're close to watching a severe weather threat for mississippi valley, ohio valley, and north texas, tornados, along with large hail, and only increases as we head into tomorrow. further loosening the reins on money and politics, the supreme court today struck down restrictions on the grand total any person can contribute to all federal candidates for office. we will get you updated on what is a very important ruling by the supreme court after the break. this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again.
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breaking news out of the supreme court. changing the rules again when it comes to campaign contributions. pete williams is reviewing the decision right now, and we will have more for you as soon as he gets out to the camera. meantime, big story we've been following for two days now. back into the fire for general motors ceo mary barra, who's facing another round of tough questions about gm's massive recall. this time it's the senate's term. right now the consumer protection subcommittee getting ready to pick up where the house energy and commerce committee left off yesterday, and if what claire mccaskill just said, mary barra may be in for an even tougher day today, mccaskill accusing a gm design engineer of lying under oath about authorizing an ignition switch change back in 2006. >> he's still working there today. it took them almost a year to issue a recall, and that's all the new gm, so i think there's
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some tough questions that need to be answered that she's not going to be able to avoid by just saying, i'm waiting for the investigation. >> barra was hit repeatedly yesterday with questions about why it took more than a decade for gm to issue a recall over an ignition switch defect already linked to 13 deaths and 32 crashes. gm says they are conducting an internal investigation and the company will share their findings with the public. let me bring in renee and phil trautwein, the mother and brother of sarah trautwein, who was killed in a 2009 accident involving a 2005 chevy cobalt, one of the cars involved in the recall. thank you so much for being with us. and first of all, our sincere sympathies to you. i know all of this is coming back with what's going on now. i just want to play a little bit of what mary barra had to say yesterday. >> i need to get the results of the study to make all determinations, and i want to know the answers to the questions you're asking. those are the questions i want to answer.
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>> renee, you listened to the testimony. did you learn anything, are you satisfied? >> no, i'm more sure there's a coverup. they've all been there, it's the same gm, there's no new gm. the employees are all the same, whoever approved that part is still there. no, it's time to stop covering up and own up. >> you've actually been on quite the emotional roller coaster. this accident, which we should say, has not been conclusively linked to this ignition problem, happened five years ago. >> correct. >> you thought sarah had fallen asleep at the wheel, i've seen the pictures, you and sarah were close, and now you think it was something different. i can't imagine now you think it might be related to this and her airbag didn't deploy. >> yeah, it's going to be something we're going to have to keep investigating, we'll never know. we'll never know what really happened those last moments of
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her death. and it's hard to really fathom. was she struggling, was she trying to get out of the car, the car that she loved, her first-ever car, so for us, just tough to deal with as a family. >> i know that you were also in the meeting with mary barra, renee, and she apologized to the families, and she says the company is going to do the right thing. what did you think about that meeting, give us your take on it. >> i thought it was very cold, very scripted. there was not a dry eye in the room except mary barra and her attorneys. very faky, very fakey. i would have rather not be there, to be quite honest. >> so what would you like to see gm do, what is the right thing in your mind for them to do? >> the right thing to do is get the 2.5 million cars off the road immediately, go on
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national, tell everyone, turn in the keys, get a rental car, it's easy, go do it now. we're going to lose more lives, and that's what i want to stop right now. >> do you have faith in congress, as well, phil, because we saw yesterday what happened. some very tough questions were asked, if claire mccaskill is any indication, mary barra's facing a pretty tough set of questions again today. do you think they can make a difference? >> i think so. they are our government. that's what we have to trust. i think at the end of the day, they'll get the answers. they'll get that investigation and they'll make, you know, what was wrong right, and that's why i feel they'll definitely do. >> you know, there is a tendency sometimes when you have these tragedies and you lump people into a group, a number, there are 13 people. perhaps your daughter, as well. what would you want people to know specifically about your daughter and what was lost? >> what was lost was a beautiful girl, inside and out, who always had a smile on her face, who
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loved everyone, who had a laugh that was contagious, bright future, university of south carolina, biology major. a life was lost that would have made a difference in this world. >> and if there was one answer you wanted to get today from this senate hearing, phil, what would it be, what question is nagging at you? >> that's a good question. what would it be? >> honesty. come forward. top the games. stop the cover up. that's all we want. >> renee and phil trautwein, i know how difficult it is to talk about these issues, but thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> again, our sincere sympathy. let's bring in congressman michael burgess, a republican from texas, vice chairman where gm ceo mary barra appeared yesterday. congressman, good morning to you. >> good morning, chris. >> what do you say to folks like the trautweins that want answers, did you get the answers
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you wanted yesterday and what do you still want to know? >> there are plenty unanswered questions after the hearing yesterday, first and foremost, and you certainly made the point in your broadcast, at the heart of this, it's a searing human tragedy and these families are continuing to endure the tragedy on a daily basis. look, all of us have had cars subject to recall notices, and quite frankly, in the past, i've treated some of those with a fairly cavalier attitude. the people who have received those recall notices on their cobalts, take them seriously, get them to your dealers. dealers need to make extra hours available to make sure those problems are taken care of. you know, we haven't touched on the testimony and answer to questions of the administrator of the highway traffic administration, and i asked him rather point blank, it was nhtsa, after all, responsible for putting airbags in cares, if you have an airbag nondeployment situation in a serious accident, that, to me, should be a red
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flag for the traffic safety administration. he seemed to be dismissive. i asked him dismissively about a case that happened in maryland, a 16-year-old child who was driving at a high rate of speed, came to the end of a cul-de-sac, impacted some trees, the airbag did not deploy. she died from a liver laceration an hour and a half later. had the airbag deployed, her little body actually separated the rim from the center part of the steering wheel and damaged the liver, took the first responders a while to get her out of the car, took them a while to get her to the hospital, but, in fact, i asked the acting administrator yesterday, had the airbag deployed, that might have prevented her from cashing into the steering wheel with such a velocity it caused those internal injuries. his statement to me, well, sometimes airbags can hurt people when they go off. my gosh, it impacted an oak tree.
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i can't think of a situation it would not be good where your airbag tried to protect you. these are there to supplement the active restraints of the seat and shoulder belt. people should bear that in mind and use the safety devices, but in this case, it seemed to be a tragedy that might have been possible to avert, had the airbag deployed. in another situation, you had a cobalt and hyundai meet head on on a freeway, the hyundai's airbag deployed, cobalt's did not. in fairness, all occupants in both vehicles did die, but it seems for nhtsa, that should be a red flag. >> let me ask you, congressman, because clearly you agree with the trautweins and families who said yesterday they want the recall, all these cars to be brought in off the road, they want these replacements to be done, but what will congress do about this? i'm sure you know that on the senate side, senators markey and
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blumenthal introduced a bill to give nhtsa copies of insurance claims made against them and lawsuits about fatal crashes in which they were a defendant. would you support a bill like that? what's the congressional action that should be taken here? >> well, let's look at that, but in the first case that i mentioned, that happened in 2005. the second case happened in 2009. there was plenty of time, and nhtsa, nhtsa commissioned the study on that first accident. i was reviewing their data where it said the airbag did not deploy and the ignition key was in the accessory position, so nhtsa actually had that information in 2006 from a 2005 accident. plenty of time to react to help prevent the accidents that occurred in 2009 and 2010. if nhtsa is not going to take the action when they have the information in front of them, it's hard to see how additional laws will help. perhaps we need a different acting administrator in nhtsa. >> congressman burgess, thank
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you so much. and we're looking at a live picture of the senate hearing room and saw mary barra come in just a short time ago. we should say she is expected to give exactly the same opening statement today as she did yesterday, so we will not be taking that. we also want to say once more, gm has said they are conducting an internal investigation and the company will share its findings with the public. we've also been telling you about this breaking news from the supreme court, major campaign contribution case, so let's get right to nbc justice correspondent pete williams outside the court. you've had a chance to take a look at it, break it down for us, pete. >> reporter: first of all, deeply divided court, 5-4, conservatives versus the liberals. what chief justice john roberts said today in striking down this limit on how much an individual can contribute to individual candidates, surprised many people to know that federal law limited how much you could give to all candidates put together.
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everybody knows about the individual limit to a candidate, that stays intact, but the court struck down what you can give to all candidates put together, which was about $49,000 and how much you could give to all political parties or pacs, $75,000. it's all about free speech, and while many people may not like all the tv commercials they see and all the attacks on candidates, he just said in explaining his opinion, he said if the first amendment upholds flag burnings, protests at military funerals, and nazi parades, it certainly upholds speech about political candidates. now the liberals descended here. in their opinion, i'm going to quote briefly from justice briere's opinion, this creates a loophole that will allow a single individual to contribute millions of dollars to political parties or candidates' campaign, combine that with the citizens united opinion, it eviscerates
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our nation's campaign finance laws, leaving a remnant of democratic legitimacy. to be clear, what the supreme court has done is strike down the federal law that limited how much a single person could give to all political candidates put together and how much a single person could give to all political parties and pacs. now, it's a fair question to ask, you know, how many people in america will want to do what the guy did here, who brought this lawsuit, a businessman named shaun mccutchen, who had a lot of money and wanted to give to a lot of candidates, how many people are there like him, that's a fair question, but it's another erosion on the limits of money in politics, and the two warring factions here believe that that is a, you know, either a good thing and that will be more speech in politics, or bad thing that it's going to make more of the political discourse in america in the hands of fewer people with a lot of money.
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maya mcginnis, heather boushey, good morning you both. >> good morning. >> heather, in addition to repealing the affordable care act, there are deep cuts to things like food stamps, education, job training, outlines a balanced budget by 2024. is this the right approach? >> well, i think this is decidedly not the right approach, and i would rename his path to prosperity, a path to poverty for too many and a path to poverty overall. this is not going to put our economy on a path for economic growth and stability. importantly, we know already that while the deficit has shrunk remarkably, we've not seen the types of gains in the share of americans with a job that we need to be seeing, because we focused on cutting spending and cutting on places that hurt working class people the most, rather than focusing on a balanced budget that would encourage shared prosperity and equitable growth, where we grow the economy by focusing on
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putting money in the hands of people that spend it, focusing on the middle class, and importantly, by not literally starving those at the very bottom of the income distribution. there's no way our economy grows because more people in america go hungry. >> both parties have said, maya, they want to address the problem in this country of income inequality, but this plan raises taxes on the middle class, lowers the tax rate for the wealthiest americans, so the simple argument, yes, it may balance the budget, but does so on the backs of the poor and middle class. is that a fair argument? >> i think the points you make depend on whether you look at the spending of the revenue side of the budget. the revenue side is vague on how it would reform the tax code. it calls for tax reform, but leaves details to be filled in, other than it would lower the rates, but in order to do that, you have to broaden the base and get rid of a lot of the tax breaks, and, in fact, there are a lot of ways one could get rid of tax breaks that benefit the upper end of the income
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spectrum, which would be a pretty smart way to talk about tax reform, but what heather was saying is on the spending side of the budget, it cuts the spending programs and domestic discretionary by block granting medicaid and part of food stamps in a way that the lower income spectrum would bear a very heavy burden of this. on the other hand, what this budget does do is focuses on the need to get our medium and longer term debt under control and that's something a lot of policy makers are running away from. heather mentioned the deficit improvements. the problem is, they have been for this year and last year and next year, in the short term, we shouldn't be focused on the deficit and i say that as somebody who's very, very concerned about fiscal policy, but the real risk isn't the immediate deficits where we've seen them coming down, it's over the next ten and 20 years, and this budget does do more than any other budgets to accomplish a reduction in the deficit, but what i'd also add, does it in a very partisan way and a way
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that's not going to lend itself to compromise. both sides need to start thinking about how to get a budget actually passed. this is something that wouldn't pass. >> without a doubt, i don't think there's anybody who would make a serious argument this is going to pass, but it does set a philosophical groundwork for at least a big chunk of the republican party, and let me play for you what john boehner just had to say about this. >> we know that social security, medicare, medicaid, are going bankrupt. now, what's the democrats' plan? they are just whistling past the graveyard, acting like it's just going to go away. we've been responsible over the last four years in putting forward our vision, and we're going to do it again. >> when you frame it, heather, as part of the debate over we need to start being responsible, we can't leave our children with this huge deficit, that part of it at least sounds reasonable. how does this play into the midterms, because you can't look at it out of the context of the upcoming elections. >> that is the crux, right, what kind of an economic do we want
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to leave the next generation, what kind of legacy is this for the future, and i want to make a couple of points here. first and foremost, the kinds of revenue policies that are embedded in this budget, certainly, are not going to be good for the middle class. they are highly unequal. there's no way you can lower the rate without, especially for those at the very top of the income distribution, without dramatically increasing taxes on the rest of us. that's a very important thing to bear in mind, and that this is a failed economic policy. this is the kind of trickle down economics that we've seen for decades that got us into this economic mess and certainly not going to get us out of it. so when we're thinking about the future, we need to be thinking about the kind of economy that creates opportunity for all, where we're making investments that are going to grow our infrastructure and make sure we can be competitive in the decades to come. that's what this budget should be focused on, and it's not. and on the issue of, you know, where the long-term deficit is
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coming from, you know, it is somewhat -- it's not somewhat, it is massively ironic when the republicans are focused on, quote, unquote, fixing medicare, at the same time trying to repeal the affordable care act. which is one of the ways we're going to bring down health care costs moving forward, while ensuring americans have access to health insurance so that they can be healthy and happy and be good workers and be productive members of society. so these priorities seem all wrong in terms of focusing on the kind of economy that's going to be strong for us in the decades to come. >> we see the live picture. there is paul ryan, who's starting the markup on this bill and the important discussion that will come out of it. maya, heather, thank you for adding to it, we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. and if you read only one thing this morning, boy, it's hard to be a billionaire. see, a major guessing game is on after an international bidding war, three billionaires, only one of them put in the winning bid on a house in los angeles and paid $102 million.
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at the same time, nato leaders, including secretary john kerry, unanimously agreed behind closed doors tuesday to end military cooperation with russia. as for the president's handling of the ukraine crisis, this is the new quinnipiac poll, americans divided, 42% to 42% on the question of who is stronger, vladimir putin or president obama. secretary of state john kerry also says it's, quote, completely premature to write off israeli/palestinian peace talks, although prospects are teetering. kerry planned his meeting today after abbas defied u.s. diplomats at the u.n. abbas said he made the decision after israel delayed the release of palestinian prisoners. although this latest peace effort was always considered a long shot, the how and when negotiations might continue, not clear. what's old is new again at starbuck's. food back by popular demand, at
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least certain food. cnbc's mandy drury is here with what's moving your money. a lot of people weren't happy. >> weren't happy is putting it lightly. some were outraged. >> one of my producers came to her desk at 6:00 in the morning and was livid. >> people took to twitter and facebook. we're talking about the $100 million acquisition of the bakery by starbuck's last year and removed certain customer favorites from the menu. but they are listening to the customer now because of the distress people had out there. they are going to bring back some customer favorites, like the banana sliced loaf cake, the pumpkin sliced loaf cake, which was the most popular, also the iced lemon one, as well. it won't be to all the stores immediately, but will be to about 3,500 stores this week, and it comes at a really important time. i think it is a smart move to listen to the customer at this time, chris. why? i've been talking to you about this breakfast wars, how taco bell is trying to get a bigger
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slice of the breakfast market share and that tit for tat between mcdonald's and taco bell, others trying to grab the breakfast market shares, so it's important for starbuck's to please the customer at this time. >> speaking of pleasing the customer, in the chicken war, the chicken champ is chick-fil-a. you all think kfc, but chick-fil-a is beating them. last year chick-fil-a had $5 billion, kfc, $4.2 billion. it's largely concentrated in the south, which is why you don't see so many around here. it only has traffic on six days a week, because the ceo is very religious and that, of course, has not been without controversy. so they are only getting six days a week of trafrk fic as opposed to kfc's seven.
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also, i should say that chick-fil-a has been going down the sort of healthy road and as we've talked about many times, that is really resinating with the consumer these days, saying it plans to bring in antibiotic-free chicken. >> we've seen chipotle get popular because of those kinds of things. good to see you. thank you. while we're talking food, it's national peanut butter and jelly day, who knew? for those who refuse to grow up, "usa today" has the list of our favorite peanut butter pairings, obvious, peanut butter and jelly, 49%. chocolate and peanut butter, 21%. my personal favorite and elvis's, too, by the way, peanut butter/banana, honey is fourth and marshmallow fluff number five.
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troubling new city that shows autism on the rise. diagnoses have jumped from 1 in 88 children to 1 in 68. let me bring in liz feld, president of autism speaks to talk about where we are. so good to have you on. >> thank you to you and your colleagues having the pins on today. >> a lot of us were flabbergasted about the results of this study. first thing is, are more children actually suffering from it, or are we getting better at diagnosing, do we know? >> we absolutely know. the fact is, you cannot explain away the doubling of the prevalence by better diagnosis alone. certainly, we have better diagnostic tools, but the picture is very incomplete about what is causing the rise, but the numbers are real. important thing to know, this morning in this country alone, 3 million people woke up who are living with autism, and they will have needs across their entire lifetime, from the time
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they are diagnosed until the end of life. the needs will change as they grow up, behavioral therapy, occupational therapy, speech therapy, many will need drug intervention, that kind of support, but as they get older and age out of school-based services, which happens when they are 21 or 22, they need life skills, employment skills, employment opportunities, and housing opportunities. all of these issues come with a diagnosis of autism. >> i think a lot of people when we think of autism, we think of kids and we don't realize and when you don't want to look at the personal and emotional toll, you're looking at a very real society that has to deal with these issues. it's a financial tool. i saw an article in the uk paper where the organization there called it the invisible generation of adults now who have autism. >> every single year, 50,000 children are aging out of school-based services. these are young adults, so
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500,000 over the next ten years, who many of whom are employable, yet only 15% of them have jobs. we need to educate the employment community about the talents and skills of these people, but you're exactly right, these are people that could be productive. they could be taxpayers, could be contributing in many ways to society. they don't want to be a burden on the government, but you're right. every governor around this country and legislator in washington needs to look and see what the economic impact is of not taking care of autism, not funding the research. >> let's talk about funding, because your website states very clearly, n.i.h. budget, nearly $31 billion, less than 10% goes to autism. talk to me about money and where we are with the research. >> so right now, you just hit the nail on the head. one-half of the n.i.t. budget, and for a developmental disorder, that is the most prevalent of any, that's a stunning statistic. we have legislation pending right now this year, combatting
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autism act up for renewal. that's the primary vehicle for funding research at the n.i.h., it has bipartisan support, unprecedented 350 members of congress behind this who recognize without the research on the front end, we are never going to make progress. we certainly don't get enough money. we're doing a lot of research ourselves. autism speaks has funded $200 million for research since it started. right now we're doing a tremendous breakthrough project in genomics, which should identify there are many kinds of autisms, which should allow us to do customized treatment, the way it happens with cancer, the development, and we're studying environmental risk factors, because we certainly don't know enough about that, but we need a lot more. brain research in general will help not just the autism community, but many communities that are affected by neurodevelopmental disorders. >> liz, it is great to have you, and i want people to know throughout the day on msnbc, we'll be talking more about this
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issue. great of you to come in. >> thank you so much and thank you for recognizing autism awareness day. hundreds of countries around the world are wearing the pin and recognizing and acknowledging that autism needs to be a public health priority everywhere. >> thank you. >> thank you. and today's tweet of the day comes from singer taylor wright, today is world autism awareness day. if you think autism doesn't impact your life, think again. t, i didn't always watch out for myself. with unitedhealthcare, i get personalized information and rewards for addressing my health risks. but she's still gonna give me a heart attack. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. i'm going to have to rethink this thing. it's hard to imagine how much we'll need for a retirement that could last 30 years or more. so maybe we need to approach things differently,
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we thought it was going to be a tough day for mary barra, but it has been a very, very feisty start to the gm hearing. just moments ago, senator claire mccaskill, forceful, here's a little flavor. >> you balked on my client that there are two identical parts, two different parts with the same number, one of which is defective, i guarantee i don't tell the folks at the law firm, i'm on my cell phone in the lobby saying to general motors, we've got a problem. i need to know who would typically be the general
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counsel's office that the lawyers you hire report to you on litigation? >> it would have been part of the senior legal team. >> okay. it would be very important for us to identify who that lawyer reported to after that deposition. >> i will -- that will be part of the investigation. >> now i'm assuming that when that happens, there's an investigation internally. >> that's just a little bit. we're going to continue to follow this throughout the day on msnbc. again, she took a lot of tough questions yesterday with a house committee, but it is starting, i think they had the benefit of knowing the things today that they wanted to follow up on and it started in earnest. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm chris jansing. next on "news nation" with tamron hall, thousands of soldiers want the president to order the army to reconsider new air regulations that they say are racially biased against african-american women. and i'll see you back here tomorrow. the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location.
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hi, everyone, i'm tamron hall, and this is "news nation." we are following breaking news within the past hour. the supreme court issued a major ruling on campaign finance. the ruling has the potential to reshape campaign contribution rules again. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us live from the supreme court with the details. pete, lay it on the line for us. >> by a 5-4 vote, the supreme court struck down the limits on how much any individual person can give to all federal candidates put together and all political parties and pacs put together. these are what are called the aggregate limits. the court left intact how much a person can give to any specific candidate, still $2,600 per campaign, per election, but you can now give to as many candidates as you want. there is no limit on how much total money any individual person can spend. the court's majority opinion, written by the chief justice john roberts said,
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