report, i do not see how the president can approve keystone. >> great to have you with us. be sure to watch tomorrow because we will have more on the tribe from south dakota and their efforts to stop the pipeline as we continue our divided heartland series. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the president slams congressman ryan's ruthless budget. in a blistering speech today president obama blasted the gop's new budget and its skewed vision of this country, one where the rich benefit at the expense of everyone else. >> here is the truth. they are not necessarily cold hearted. they just sincerely believe if we give more tax breaks to a

fortunate few and invest less in middle class and reduce or eeliminate the safety net for poor or sick and cut food stamps and medicaid and let credit card companies and insurers do only what is best to their bottom line without the responsibility of the rest of us then somehow the economy will boom and jobs and prosperity will trickle down to everybody. when i say it that way i know it sounds like i'm exaggerating, except i'm not. this is their theory. it does create opportunity for a hand few of people who are already doing really, really well. but we believe in opportunity for everybody, more good jobs for everybody. more workers to fill the jobs. a world class education for everybody. hard work that pays off with wages you can live on and health care you can count on.

>> opportunity for all. that's what the president was pushing out today. meeting with minimum wage workers, hearing their stories, fighting to give them a raise, trying to give them a sense of success. congressman ryan is trying to pull that lighter out from underneath every day americans. today on capitol hill he defended his budget cuts to health care, food stamps, pelgrants to low income college students. why? because we need to get serious. >> if washington is serious about helping families or serious about getting back to work then it needs to get serious about our national debt. how do we do it? we stop spending we don't have. >> we can't spend money we don't

have, right? how about the fact that ryan's serious budget gives milliona e millionaires a tax break of at least $200,000. that's serious all right. seriously flawed. and while this budget might never pass congress, here is what is scary. congressman ryan is looking to chair the ways and means committee which has power over the tax code and the safety net. as the "new york times" said that would put a man with a very dangerous idea in a position to do serious damage. that's why this fight matters. that's why the president isn't backing down. >> we have to get opportunity for everybody who strives for it. we have to make sure everybody black, white, latino, asian, native americans with or without a disability, folks from the

inner city and outside the borders of the city, everybody has a chance. america is a place for everybody. that's what we are fighting for. that's what i need you to get out there and talk about. >> america is a place for everybody, not a place for dangerous ideas and a ruthless war on the poor. joining me now is congress woman democrat of maryland and jonathan capehart. president obama called out ryan's heartless budget. are we going to see more of this from democrats in the coming months? >> i think absolutely. if anybody ever wondered what it is republicans would do if they were fully in control, this is it. the ryan budget slashes everything from education to medical research to

transportation and infrastructure funding to ending medicare as we know it. and that is true in this budget. and so in case we wondered what republicans would do if they had every branch of the government, this is it and it is bad for the american people. >> president obama also chose the current ryan plan simply recycles the previous plans. take a listen. >> if this all sounds familiar it should be familiar because it was the economic plan in the 2012 campaign. it was their economic plan in 2010. it's like that movie "groundhog day" except it is not funny. if they try to sell this sandwich it would be the meanwich. >> we have heard a lot of this stuff before. >> we have. and the other thing about the

ryan plan which has the same name that it has had, path to prosperityt that this is the ryan budget. the ryan plan is more of a political document than a budget document. one thing that gets lost in the conversation of the ryan budget is that it's going nowhere because the fiscal year 2015 budget is already set, set by congressman ryan in a deal that congressman ryan and senator patty murray in the senate put together earlier this year. >> that they were applauded for. >> so once you know that and you look at the details as the president calls it the groundhog day budgett that is when you know that this is all about politics and setting up, giving republicans a messaget that they could possibly run on in 2014. >> now, you know, congress woman the president's eevent highlighted the need to raise the minimum wage and it's a

proposal americans are overwhelmingly supporting. 93% of democrats back the plan as do 69% of independents and even 52% of republicans. the president today told republicans to walk the walk when it comes to raising the minimum wage. listen to this, congress woman. >> next week members of the congress have a fresh chance to show what side they are on. they are going to get a yes or no vote on raising minimum wage. they are going to make a clear choice, talk the talk about valuing hard work and families or walk the walk and actually value hard working families. you have a choice. you can give america the shaft or give it a raise. >> give america the shaft or give it a raise. these are very direct and i think in many ways i think it

will inspire a lot of americans that feel that they have been left out of the discussion to feel like they've got a reason to look at these mid term elections as something that will represent their interests, congress woman. >> i think what the president said is this is what we stand for as democrats, raising the minimum wage in this country. so if you work 40 hours a week for minimum wage. so the president knows this is not just a tough sell. it is a good sell for the american people, republicans, democrats and independents support it. now it is time for republicans to put their money really where their mouths are and raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. >> we have repeatedly heard from congressman ryan referring to takers. he talks about takers in this

society. listen to this. >> we have got this tail spin of culture in our inner cities in particular of men not working. we are coming to a country where we are getting more and more takers than makers in america. the left is making a big mistake here. what they are offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul. american people want more than that. we don't want to turn the safety net into a hammock. >> teach a man how to fish he can feed himself for life. don't simply feed fish. >> don't the republicans in particularly ryan see that this was rejected by the american people in 2012? >> you would think so but they don't see it as a rejection. that's why we have seen congressman ryan's path to prosperity brought back year after year after year because

that is where the republican party is. they believe a lot of them believe in the takers versus makers non sense. they believe that the social safety net is a hammock and that people are perfectly fine and comfortable and happy living in the hammock as opposed to a safety net as something that needs to be repaired and something that people need in moments of high stress in their family lives and something that they want to leave as soon as humanly possible, the moment they get the new job or get into school that allows them to get a better job and get them out of -- get them out of the safety net and into, back into the middle class, this idea that people in this country who are willingly living off public because they want to and like it that way is devisive. >> that is why the "new york

times" talked about mr. ryan having dangerous ideas and trying to become chairman of ways and means committee. can you imagine someone with this idea over the tax code and safety net? this is frightening to many people who want to see this kind of politics continue to be marginalized in this country. >> i'll tell you what, the only takers in this country are employers who pay below the minimum wage, below the poverty line and then require that their employees get food stamps and low income heating assistance and those things. paul ryan is saying the ryan republican budget is the only thing in the country. we need to take the message. now the choices are clear and the choices are very stark. a republican ryan budget sucks the life blood out of the

american people or a democratic vision that values hard work and that values workers in this country. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time this evening. >> thanks. ahead, much more from an energetic president obama today who unloaded on republicans still set on repealing obamacare. >> to give them credit they do have one original idea which is to repeal obamacare. because they haven't tried that 60 times. and remember all of those wild obamacare conspiracy theories? all those kooky predictions. our trip to gop fantasyland is ahead. plus the supreme court strikes down another limit on big money in politics. how the democrats plan on fighting the billionaire boys

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now taking another step to undermine democracy and let the rich buy elections. today the majority on the supreme court stripped away key limits on political donations, letting people give money to an unlimited number of candidates and political groups. as you might guess republicans are thrilled. >> well, i think this means freedom of speech is being upheld. you all have the freedom to write what you want to write. donors ought to have the freedom

to give what they want to give. >> this is all about freedom. freedom for who? the 1%? today's ruling lets america's big money guys including gop donors like the koch brothers spend as much as they want on candidates and political groups. justice roberts and his allies on the court are planning it is more important to let the rich buy elections than let people vote in those elections. that is not right. joining me now is joy. why is the supreme court making it easier to buy in an election than to vote one. >> it is incredible when you put the rulings together. they say we no longer need the protection of the voter act. we no longer need to limit the ability of a very small number of donors. we do know fewer than 1,000

americans who spend at the level that this will make a difference for them, they can spend millions of dollars literally. one justice actually ordered a separate opinion saying he would have struck down the $2,600 limit on individual donations to one candidate. >> he would not only blow up the cap he would say i will let you give as much as you want. >> they are calling that first amendment right of free speech. the problem is because of this ruling some americans have more speech than others. the person who can afford to give $200 which very few people do that is completely dwarfed by somebody who can literally spend millions. >> justice brier wrote against

today's ruling saying fails to recognize the difference between influence resting upon public opinion and influence bought by money alone. he also wrote where money calls the tune, those ideas representing the voices of the people will not be heard. strong language. >> absolutely. if you think about it, somebody who has the desire to do it can say i am going to buy this entire block of house races and state senate races where the money is more powerful. on the federal level we are talking about the ability to have tremendous and broad influence that no ordinary citizen can muster. it is the small majority of americans who give $200 in a campaign let alone people who can give literally millions. >> or when you have various fights going on whether it is same sex marriage or stand your ground or immigration.

they can go to the states and just blanket it with all of the legisla legisla legislators getting maxed out and you have to try to build a lot of forces to fightt that. >> think about the crpragtmatic influence. let's say you have an industry with deregulation. that means the people who could be parmed, we have seen giant oil spills and chemical spills into the rivers in some of the southern states. we have seen catastrophic negative results of deregulation. we can buy the deregulation by putting in place politicians. could any individual person who wants to drink a clear glass of water in west virginia afford to stand up to them? absolutely not. >> thank you for your time tonight. be sure to catch joy on the reid report here on msnbc.

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ordered to shelter in place. the entire base now on lockdown. the shooting apparently began at a medical support building. local news reports indicate there have been several injuries. joining me now is former fbi profiler clint van zant. >> what we are hearing so far, again, has to be confirmed. we are told there are at least two shooters. one may be in custody or one may be down. we are told there are multiple injuries. people who have been injured or wounded. what makes this more significant is an alert issued by the fbi just yesterday suggesting a man with the last name of booker who also has a middle eastern name,

last name hasan had tried to join the military and was released just recently saying that he wanted to commit some type of jihad at fort hood. the fbi suggested there may be more individuals involved with him. that alert was issued yesterday and now today we have this believed shooting. whether the two are connected or not we don't know. >> i think we have a graphic of that. will the control room put up the graphic of who he is speaking of. this is the subject of an fbi alert, planned fort hood-inspired jihad against u.s. soldiers by army recruit. we do not know if there is a connection but this was put up yesterday about mohammed hasan.

>> five years ago november in '09 we had the terrible shooting done by major hasan. there is a different spelling of the last name. otherwise, this has to just scare the heck out of the people at fort hood to think it is de ja vu all over again. of course, this is at a medical facility so it has the ring of five years ago when they went through the very same thing. >> again, we don't know if there is a connection but this alert was put out yesterday. again, we are being told that there may have been two shooters and one may have been apprehended or down and the other at large. these are unconfirmed reports. >> everything right now is in a state of flux. obviously if there is still an active shooter they have told

everybody to shelter in place and they will have the law enforcement scouring that base trying to come up with the second shooter if there is one before he or she is able to hurt someone else. >> now, fort hood you referenced was the scene of a terrible shooting. remind our listeners about what happened at fort hood. tell our viewers who may be sketchy on that what you are referring to. >> this was in november of 2009 when an army major by the name of nidal hasan, he was a medical doctor, a psychiatrist who using his own weapons that he had purchased outside of the base came on the base and started shooting soldiers, men, women, anyone that he could get a beat on he was shooting at the time. he was finally engaged in a

shootout with law enforcement officers on the base and he was shot and critically wounded. he remains in custody, has physical challenges and, of course, is charged with all of the shootings, dozens of individuals that were either wounded or killed. and many, many shots fired. so since that time fort hood like any other base has taken as many steps as they can to protect the men and women on the bases both military and civilian. and this man we are talking about, al, this individual who the fbi had put the alert out on, he never actually got into the military. he was recruited. the military, the fbi found out that he was planning and perhaps recruiting people to participate in some type of jihad against the military. he wasn't allowed to come into the military.

so the question is how could he have gotten on the base. on a base that big it is not that difficult. people have to come and go every day. whether this same individual or somebody associated with him is also identical to the shooters, we still have to find out. >> now, we are getting reports that the fbi has been sent to fort hood to the location. give us a sense of what law enforcement does. this started around 4:30. give us a sense of what is probably happening at the location right now. >> there is a number of things. there is a civilian police force that is on that base. these were the same individuals that engage nidal hasan, the army major in 2009 in that shootout and finally resulted in his arrest. they will be the first responders as well as first aid people. the first thing is obviously

trying to care for those that are wounded and injured to include as initially reported at least one suspect or one shooter. with the possibility that a second shooter is still out they are going to be tactical teams pouring on that base. we are talking tens of thousands of acres and thousands of people on that base at any one time, military and civilian. so it's going to be a real challenge trying to get people to shelter in place and trying to find the one more potential shooter and find out who he or she is and get them in custody, too. so there are a lot of things going on simultaneously. one of the things they will do is set up a chand post quickly where every agency who is contributing people to care for the wounded and try to hunt to see if there are more shooters. that post will be put together very fast to make sure we don't

have a redundancy, people doing the same thing. if there is another shooter they have to find that person and fast. with something like this you have to have coordination. i would suggest since 2009 these types of terrible exercises have been practices all over military bases in the united states to put together this command structure if they have an active shooter. so that is what is going on. >> let me bring in law enforcement analyst jim kavanagh who is also a former atf agent in charge. >> how are you? >> fine. what do you make of these unconfirmed reports at this point? >> you know, reverend what clint is saying is right -- >> i think we are losing jim. i don't hear jim. let me go back to you, clint.

whatever connection we had to jim we do not have. we are still told there is an active shooter. it is still an active shooter at large. you were telling me they set up an immediate command post and breaking down what is going on around with law enforcement at this point at the scene. >> well, there is a lot of interviews. they are going to be talking to shooting victims, people that are injured or anybody that is a witness of what is going on. they need to identify if there is a second shooter or perhaps more shooters out there. we have seen many cases in this country where law enforcement has looked for a phantom shooter where there really wasn't a second or third shooter. they have to confirm that somebody else is out there. number two, if they have a suspect in custody we need to find out who he or she was working with. should it be linked to this fbi

alert i would suggest the fbi and military probably knows who this individual was writing to, who he may have been trying to recruit in his -- as of yesterday fantasy of committing a mass shooting at fort hood. should that individual be related they will be trying to track him down and anybody else related to him as far as information down off the base while at the same time looking for the active shooter. >> nbc news is now reporting that as many as eight people may have been injured in this shooting on fort hood. as many as eight people may be injured, nbc is now reporting. clint, there is still a lot of confusion. again, we are told about this notice the fbi put out yesterday on this man booker but we do not

know if, in fact, this is one of the two or the only one that is the shooter today. but it is very, very interesting. this was put out yesterday and this is around the time of the same location five years ago that faced a shooting. these kinds of things just seem to be too strange to be coincident coincidental. >> unfortunately, if you are this individual and were going to commit such at shooting you can see the terrible reasoning in going back to someplace like fort hood one more time to just terrorize the people and terrorize the people in the united states. we like to think that there are safe places. we think our schools are safe and we see sandy hook. we think military bases are safe and then we see fort hood.

there are people out there trying to send the message that we are not safe in our own country. >> we are being told now by nbc news there may be two shooters. and one has apparently been taken into custody, possibly shot and wounded. and another one, the other one may still be at large and on the loose. nbc news now reporting one is in custody and has possibly been shot, another still at large and on the loose. eight people, as many as eight people may have been injured here at fort hood. you were telling me that the man that the alert was put out by the fbi yesterday at fort hood had never actually been admitted to the military but could still get on the base. >> again, we don't know the

identity of the one or as we are told now two shooters. we don't know if they are related to this fbi alert or not. again, it's not that great of a challenge to get on to a government facility. some people have legitimate access as we have seen shootings take place in washington, d.c. at the navy yard and down in norfolk last week when a shooting took place. some people have an access card that actually gives them the ability to get on the base. others may steal that documentation or may be able to present themselves as a visitor and somehow get on the base. we know a number of years ago individuals had planned on getting on a large military facility in new jersey. the way they were going to do it is pizza delivery people knowing military bases soldiers order pizzas they were going to come

in in separate vehicles allegedly delivering pizza and attack the base. there are people out there every day thinking of new ways to try to hurt us and try to make us afraid in our own country. >> we are going to take a break and be right back. as of now as many as eight people nbc is reporting has been shot on the fort hood base and two shooters, one apparently has been taken into custody, possibly he has been shot and wounded. the other still at large. we will be right back after this. wright brothers started in a garage. mattel started in a garage. disney started in a garage. amazon started in a garage. ♪ the ramones started in a garage. my point? some of the most innovative things in the world come out of american garages. introducing the lighter, faster cadillac cts. 2014 motor trend car of the year.

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♪ we are following this breaking news story. there has been shootings at fort hood. one possibly shot and wounded and the other still at large as

many as eight people may have been wounded. let's bring back in nbc law enforcement analyst jim kavanagh who has also been a former atf special agent in charge. you have been in many of these investigations. give us a sense of what is happening now based on the unconfirmed reports we have so far. >> the base police and certainly u.s. army are engaged with the shooter. we report from nbc news that one may be shot and in custody and there may be another actor out there. i heard your discussion with clint and he was very spot on. when you have two shooters it's a little different. you don't usually -- it's not exclusive but you don't usually have a mentally deranged person.

we had weather d.c. sniper. generally speaking a deranged person as far as the navy yard shooter where one person. you don't usually recoup somebody until -- when you get two actors sometimes it leads towards a scenario of more planning, more criminality like you brought up the fbi alert. so the fbi is very good at picking those things out and trying to act on them quickly. and they put a notice out to law enforcement. we don't know if that is related. but, you know, it seems like the fbi was trying to move quickly. they are very good about that. fort hood, i was the special agent in charge of dallas division. been to fort hood. it is a huge place, huge complex. it is like a city in itself.

of course, you know major hasan we know the tragedy and base police. he was a lone actor who radicalized on the internet with the radical al qaeda cleric. he was a terrorist acting like a cleric, anwar al awlaki. he was killed in a drone strike in yemen. he had recruited hasan and he did the attack on fort hood and shot a bunch of our heroes. it is sad to see a shooting back at fort hood for whatever the motivations may be because they have already been through it before. >> and then we are told that the fbi kansas city, missouri division sent out an alert about the recent recruit who we talked

about who was also known as the man reportedly bid farewell to his friends and expressed the desire to commit an act of violence. again, we do not know if this is in any way connected to this shooting. but this alert was put out yesterday. let me go to a report by a local station to give us information. this was a few minutes ago. let's go. look at this. >> reporter: there are very, very few people other than media here near the front gate right now. we did speak to a few soldiers we told you about a little while ago that were trying to get in the gate and were unable to because they did not have the correct permits on them. people are scarce right now as the details are. all we are being told by fort hood is that the base is on

lockdown and they are advising all residents to shelter in place right now. there are reports that multiple people were shot. there are reports of some being transported to the hospital. other than that we know very little about what is going on on the base right now. >> well, it is still an active situation and more breaking. let's take a break. [ engine turns over ] [ male announcer ] the 2014 nissan altima. with 270 horses... ♪ ...blind spot warning... ♪ ...and advanced drive assist. ♪ nothing beats an altima. except another altima. ♪ nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria.

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breaking news, there has been a shooting, several shootings in fort hood. at least eight people have been reportedly shot and wounded, possibly two shooters, one taken into custody and possibly has been shot. the other still at large. we are told with unconfirmed reports. let's go back to clint van zant. we have an active area. we just saw a local report where we are told very few people around. that is probably because everyone has been told to shelter in in the area, i assume. >> that would be the case. again, as you and i discussed earlier it has only been five years since 13 people were killed in that november 2009 shooting committed by one man. i was listening to all of your

guests who have spoken on this so far and i agree with jim that normally when you have someone with a mental illness you usually see one person acting alone. but if it is not necessarily a mental illness, if someone is acting for reasons other than being mentally ill, of course, we see two people acting together or more. i think jim alluded to a number of shootings where we had at least two people. that may be the case. the fbi issued an alert yesterday speaking about one individual who had tried to join the u.s. army and then was refused admittance when the military, the fbi determined that this man said he wanted to commit an act of violence, act of jihad. fort hood was referenced in some of our communications. if it just so happens that this

took place today and it is unrelated we don't like coincides. that is a heck of a coincidence that the authorities are working very hard trying to resolve. but in a worst case scenario should it be this individual or somebody working with him we have a place to start. we know who we are looking for and what the reasons may be. now we have to get that at least one more shooter we are told in custody before we start to sort this out. again, as you reported earlier at least eight people injured already. >> we, again, do not know if this is related but this alert was issued yesterday. apparently it comes out of the kansas city, missouri office of fbi and person that has been named booker, reportedly bid farewell to his friends and fort hood was mentioned. we do not know if this is

related at all. we are told that there are possibly two shooters, one in custody and possibly wounded and eight possibly that have been shot by the one or both assailants. at this point as the fbi and others come in you say local law enforcement there setting up a command post, what is actually happening as you have been in these things? what can you tell us is your best guess? >> one thing that happens in these shootings, these active shooters that i responded to you always get a report of a second gunman. you may remember we saw that in the navy yard. i have experienced that myself. witnesses report eseeing a person with a gun at one spot and might report seeing a person

with a gun in another spot. descriptions can differ. it may be the same shooter. sometimes we got descriptions of responding plain clothes law enforcement officers, they are shot somewhere, an emergency. citizen says i saw a man with a gun over there and they give the description. it could be two shooters or could be one shooter seen by a couple. >> we don't know yet. >> people are reacting to seeing different scenes at different places. let's go back to reporter emily collins who gave us another report from just outside of fort hood. >> reporter: at this moment fort hood police are actually blocking off the gate entrance to my right over here. back here behind me you can see there are very few people going through the gate. an ambulance just went through.

this jeep that you will see here coming up is the first vehicle police have let through. everyone else is not allowed to cross the barricades. they are not letting anyone else in except emergency personnel. >> only one vehicle allowed in. only emergency personnel allowed in. again, we are following this story, shootings in fort hood. eight people we are told have possibly been shot, as much as twot shooters, one in custody and wounded. and we are told another may still be at large. let's take a break and we'll be right back. and it feels like your lifeate revolves around your symptoms,

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what is happening now looking for the possible other shooter that is at large if there is another shooter? >> a number of things going on. number one, they are trying to take care of the injured and wounded. they are trying to put as much as they can an iron ring around the area where they think the secondt shooter is. they want to get if there is a second person, get him identified and in custody and worry about the motive later. right now we want to make sure nobody else is shooting. >> they will, of course, try to have everyone stay in what they call shelter in and have no one moving. we are told there is nobody being sighted. it appears the shelter in is in effect. we don't know if the second shooter exists or not. we are going to continue following this breaking news as we watch what is going on in

fort hood. certainly those that are there should stay put until law enforcement releases. let me go to my colleague in washington, chuck todd. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. as you know we are following this breaking news situation in fort hood. this is what we know at this time. fort hood in texas is on lockdown. as many as eight people possibly wounded, taken to hospitals. there may have been two shooters. one has been taken into custody. this has been confirmed by nbc news, possibly shot and wounded. one is still on the loose. similar to when there were 13 people killed, by the way, this is not new to fort hood when 13 people killed in 2009, not the type of flashback people at fort hood want to be thinking about. th p