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now in 2009, army major hassan went on a rampage, and be president obama had a conference call with his national security team. >> any shooting is troubling. obviously, this reopens the pain of what happened at fort hood five years ago. we know these families. we know their incredible service to our country and the sacrifices that they make. >> again, just a short time ago, army secretary john mchugh told this to the senate. do we have it? no. all right. let me bring in msnbc military ant lift and medal of honor recipient retired colonel jack jacobs and nbc analyst and former fbi agent and criminal pro filer chris van zandt. good to see both of you. we learned a little more about the 34-year-old shooter army specialist ivan lopez.
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he was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder. treated for depression and anxiety. when you look at what we know about this record, clint, how does this fit into were his overall profile? >> part of what we heard this morning, too, chris, was that the alleged shooter was a truck driver. he was deployed for four months, that there's no record of him having been wounded. eve even though he self-reported a traumatic brain injury, there's no information to substantiate that, but, chris, we know that unfortunately there is a significant percentage of our military who has either considered or who actually commit suicide due to some type of mental disorder, mental illness. of course, what we're going to be looking at right now is saying, was this a soldier who went unaddressed, or as you just said, since he saw a psychiatrist last month, and showed no evidence of suicidal
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ideation, something took place to have this guy come to fort hood within the lavt month and a half, go out and buy a gun, just like major hassan did, and then turn around and use that .a 45 caliber pistol in this terrible manner. >> we're going to talk a lot more about what might have happened here, but let's get a little bit more background and facts about what we do know at this.. nbc's jimmiklaszewski joins us from the pentagon. what can you tell us? >> reporter: minutes ago in testimony, ostensively to talk about the army's budget, both the secretary of the army, mchugh, and general odierno, the chief of staff, revealed some more details about the background of this ivan lopez, the 34-year-old specialist involved in that shooting rampage at fort hood. now, according to secretary mcbe hugh and general odierno, he was a truck driver in iraq for four months, but it was the last four
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months ending in december before the total withdrawal of american troops at a time when there were very few combat operations, and as a truck driver, it's evident on its face that he was one of those who may have driven the final convoy out of iraq. his record shows he suffered no wounds, no involvement in combat, no purple heart, no injury of any kind, and no reason to investigate his claim that he suffered traumatic brain injury. now, he was being treated, according to secretary mchugh, for depression and anxiety, and sleep deprivation, and he was on some meds, including ambien. now, here's a key element here. they said that he was -- he had an appointment, and an examination, with his psychologist just last month, and at that time, the report was that they saw no sign of likely
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violence or suicidal tendencies from lopez, and in -- in terms of, was there any connection to terrorism, they say they're not making any final assumptions, but they found no evidence whatsoever that he was linked in any way to any kind of militant, extremist or jihadist organization. also, he had a clean record. there were not bad misconduct marks anywhere on his record. so aside from his visits to the psychologist, the record here seems to indicate that they had no reason to believe that suddenly he would take a .45 semiautomatic pistol and start shooting up fort hood, killing three and wounding as many as 16 others. chris? >> jim miklaszewski, with that latest information for us. clint, let me's come back to you. we know after the nadal shooting there was an assessment done, a report that came outened and in
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that, officials said they intended to "develop a scientifically-based list of behavioral be ind caters of potential violence" and that the military and the fbi would work together to, again, i'm quoting "strengthen our understanding of the insider threat," meaning someone obviously inside that base. are we behind on our understanding of that? organization more on finding ways to take that information and turn it into practical action? >> well, first of all, there's no real litmus test for who's going to commit violence, cries. i mean, i deal with incidents of violence in workplace on a weekly basis, helping companies deal with that, but we fall back to psychology 101. the best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. that being said, there are possibly predictors in somebody's backgrounds if their mood changes, if the way they dress changes, if the way they talk to you change, if they become withdrawn. there's probably a dozen different indicators that the
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military has that they could lay over the top with someone like this guy, and say, you know what? we're seeing a few things we need to deal with you. what does "deal with you" mean a, chris? does that mean he sees a psychologist or psychiatrist once a month and goes on again? and how do we link -- how did we -- this will drive the national rifle association crazy, but how do we link people buying guns with someone who's being assessed for some type of mental illness, especially in the military? this guy was able to go out, legally buy a gun, take it to a home off you campus, off post are and still bring that weapon on. so as a profiler, i want to know, what happened to this guy in the last month, in the last week, in the last two days, that finally in his mind pushed him over the edge, and were these victims specifically targeted? or were they all targets of opportunity for a very challenged, perhaps beranged
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mind? >> and we don't know any of the answers about motive right now, but we do know that, and you raise a good point, clirnt, it' raising the question of the role in guns of all this and the homeland security, michael mccall asked whether members of the military with concealed carry permits should be able a to bring those weapons on to 0 a base. here's what he said. >> it steeems to me there is loc to allows them to can carry weapons on a military base, where they can defend themselves. the problem here, and with fort hood, the prior nidal hasan case, was that they couldn't defend themselves, because they were not allowed to carry weapons. >> and, in fact, a bill was introduced after the 2009 fort hood shooting, although it didn't go anywhere, but, jack, you spent a lot of your time on military bases. what do you think about that idea? >> with respect to the gentleman, he has no idea what he's talking about. it's the stupidest idea i've heard in aening although, long time and hope it goes absolutely
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nowhere. there's no need -- you go to a military base, even one the size a of fort hood and many others that are pretty much the same size, fort bragg, north carolina, fort lewis 0 in washington, and so on, and -- >> this is the chairman, jack, of the homeland security committee. >> he has no idea what he's talking about. >> and -- i preefer not to get anymore pointed than that. this is a place theoretically of violence, but no guns in sight anywhere. >> all the weapons are locked up. there's no need for weapons, except on a shooting range. and that's in a strictly controlled circumstance. i can't envision they pi sergs in which any service member would be in a position to have to defend limbs on a military post, and if everyone's wandering around carrying military weapons you know exactly what's going to happen. we'd be talking about this thing many, many more times. it's a really dumb idea and the gentleman should retract it. >> we are looking at a lot of different things here. one obviously is the motive.
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second, this issue of ptsd, but a third about base security, and that same report i reference referenced talking to clint they did amp the nadal shooting, jack, because of budget restrain some recommendationing are not fully implemented. that's according to a pennell repopennell -- pentagon report released last month. cited the navy yard shooting. three of these shootings since september. how much is a budget problem? >> very little of it, actually. the biggest positive effect of the last incident was the development of quick reaction procedures, and drills, which don't cost 0 a great deal of money and they've been working on them in every military installation, and it's one of the reasons why there was such quick reaction, because they'd been practicing it. not a lot of that has to do with money. physical security on military posts, extremely difficult. on small ones, not that hard.
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on one like fort hood, tens of thousands of people and vehicles coming in and going out of the place every day, the requirement, if there ever should be one, to physically check every single vehicle, whether they're registered on post or not, to search every single one. to search every body, whether he has a military i.d. or not, an insurmountable be logistical enterprise not recommended. if we want to protect military installations against something like this, we're going to have to find some other way of doing it, because otherwise it can't be accomplished. >> colonel jack jacobs, thank you so much. clint van zandt, thank you. i want to bring in independent vermont senator bernie sard sanders who chairs the veterans affairs committee. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> a lot to hit here. let me start with what we just heard from chairman mccall, which is, look, military bases are not schools where teachers are not trained. we heard from many school shootings maybe teachers should carry gurn. these are folks largely trained and if they have a concealed
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weapons permit, maybe they ho be able to carry it on base and defend themselves. what do you say? >> it's not an issue that i have studied, but what i do know as chairman of veterans committee is sdh is that we have hundreds of thousands of many women who served in iraq and afghanistan who can come home with post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain in? jury. on top of that, outside of the military, it's no great secret. we get calls in my office every so often from a family member who worries deeply about somebody who is extremely untable, about what he or she might do to himself and others. we have a major mental health problem in this country. we have that problem that has to be addressed, and i hope we are serious about addressing it. >> i'm sure you saw the "the washington post"'s poll, one out offer two mow knows a service member who either attempted or committed suicide. more than a million suffer from relationship problems,
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experience's outbursts of anger. wlapts not being done, senator, to address this problem? >> well, what's not being done is to recognize the enormity of the problem. aye just indicated, we're talking about hundreds of are thousands of men and women. so if we are serious about reaching out and helping those people, we've got to provide the resources to do that. now, in fact, the v.a. in the last several years has greatly expanded its mental health capabilities, but, frankly, we have got to do more, because there are situations and, again, by the way, chris, this is an issue of veterans. it's an issue of the military prp it is an issue of the united states of america. people who have never been in the military, and we have to do a heck of a lot more than we are currently doing in terms of mental health. i guarantee you, there are many, many people today who are in desperate need of are mental health, people who have access to dangerous weapons, who cannot get into the door of a counselor or 0 a psychologist. >> let me address that problem specifically, and also how it might relate to the budget, because there's a debate going
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on about that right now. let's look just at the 2015 white house budget proposal, which will provide $7 billion to the v.a. for mental let services. a $300 million increase, but "usa today" analyzed data from veterans affairs, and here's what it found. it failed to schedule one-third of psychiatricing appointments within two weeks. we know the v.a. failed to meet that 14-day goal of treatment for 34 had percen34% of request. psychologist, includes ptsd. only 2% better than it was two years ago. so sow let me ask you about the money. is this increase enough? >> no, it's not. no, it is not, pure and simple. but that raises the broad issue of the budget of the united states of america, and how we get the funding that we need, not only to deal wimental healt how you deal with unemployment.
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if you think that as a nation the fact we have millions of people long-term unemployed does not have an impact on mental health, you would be mistaken. are we going to address the real need meeds facing this country taking you to the simple political issue, we have a budget over there in the republican house that wants to cut, cut, cut, rather than address the needs that we face in this country, because they don't want to ask the wealthier or large corporations to pay a nickel more 0 in taxes. >> senator, a lot more we want to discuss with you this morning. especially that gaining-changing decision from the supreme court on campaign send spending. stay there. back in just a few minutes. it's not the "confused by rotating categories" card. it's the no-category-gaming, no-look-passing, clear-the-lane-i'm- going-up-strong, backboard-breaking, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, every single day. i'll ask again... what's in your wallet?
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it's a whole new game for raising money for political campaigns with major ramifications for the upcoming elections. the supreme court ruling wednesday allows wealthy donors
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to contribute to as many as they want and the chair of the rnc is celebrating. >> the reason we're excited is that it brings the political parties, i think the most accountable groups in america, a little bit closer to exercising our first amendment rights, just like everybody else. >> but the "new york times" editorial board summarizes the opposing view. the mccutchen decision is less an free speech than about giving those few people with the most money the loudest voice in politics. joining me again, independent vermont senator bernie sanders. so as you well know, this ruling rejects the previous federal limit on individual contributions that was $123,000. i know you're on twitter yesterday to voice your strong opposition. why are you so troubled by this? >> chris, we are in a situation right now where as a result of citizens united, a multibillion heir family, like the coke
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brothers and sheldon adelson are in the process of dominating our entire political system, as a result of citizens united, the coke brothers can spend hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to elect right wing candidates who will serve their interests of giving more tax breaks to the very rich and cutting back on programs that working families need. you just saw the spectacle in las vegas last week. sheldon adelson brings potential republican candidates to his office and says what are you going to do for me? and if you're nice and do pai want, maybe i'll give awe few hundred million for your campaign. now, with this decision yesterday, what it did, is made a very bad situation even worse, and the millionaires and billionaires can now contribute up to $5 million directly into the campaign funds of individual candidates all over this country. >> of course, it's on the democratic side as well. >> yes, it is. >> so your opposition i assume extends to everyone? >> absolutely.
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but let's be clear, it's not fair to say a plague on both your houses. the vast majority of the new money, why the republican chairman was rejoicing, why the republican party has pushed for this supreme court decision is, they understand that most of the money, not all, but most of the money will be coming into republican coffers, and what this is all about, what the so-called freedom of speech is about, is allowing the wealthiest people in this country to essentially own the political process in america, and make it very, very hard for non-wealthy candidates who are representing working families to get a fair shot in the political process. >> as you know, when you look at the ruling the five-member majoritiy said long found political spending to be free speech. chief justice roberts wrote, the government may no more restrict how many candidates or causes a
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donor may issupport than newspar how many candidates. >> no. that's not an analogy. i really don't know what world these guys are living in. for them, what freedom of speech is about is the freedom to buy the political process in this country, and to control our democracy, and i think that that is just undermining what so many people for so many years have fought for in terms of strengthening the foundations of american democracy. >> it seems almost like the "wall street journal," if i may, was writing to you and others who believe as you do when they said this morning -- these usual suspects will now be waili ining anew about big moned politics. the reality is the biggest winners may be the political parties. if parties have nor money to donate, super pacs financed by the super a rich might have less influence. what would you say to that?
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>> what i would usually say to "wall street journal" editorials that they are dead wrong. and let me add this, chris. what the republican party has long wanted in pushing the court to these decisions is essentially to eliminate all restrictions on campaign funding, and judge thomas, by the way, took that position yesterday. at the end of the day what the republicans want is no restrictions, that the billionaires of this country can spend as much as they want in any way they want. now, the "wall street journal" may think that's a good idea. i think the vast majority of the american people understand that that is not what american democracy is about. you're taking away the ability of ordinary people to get involved in the political process, and you can be more andan giving more and more people the power who already have it. >> talked two years ago, a billion dollar campaign for president, if you wanted to run. a lot of folks are saying you
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better be able to look at $2 billion this time. now, of course, the floodgates are open, and i really wonder, because you've talked about running for president, what does it mean to a candidatesy like yours? what does it pemean for the presidential race overall? >> let me tell you what i think. the coke brothers now worth $80 billion last year saw their wealth increase in one year by $12 billion. so when you talk about obama and mitt romney both spending a little more than a billion for they're campaigns, what do you think it would mean to the coke brothers to say, hey, you know what? we're going to throw a couple billion dollars into the presidential election's it is nothing. it is a small fraction of what they earned last year. so this decision plus citizens united is a terrible disservice to the american people. we need a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united and, in fact, we need public funding of elections, so that all candidates have a fair shot at getting elected, and they can judge by their ideas,
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by what they're fighting for, and not by the bank accounts of their campaign sponsors. >> senator bernie sanders, thanks so much for your time, senator. >> thank you. coming up, what does lord of the rings director peter jackson have to do with the search for the missing malaysian airlines plane? we'll tell you about that. first, part of the country could be in for the first major tornado outbreak of the season. we'll tell you what's in store with meteorologist bill karins, of a the break. time your the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. ray goodman, owner of new york city's legendary boutique ebb trash in vaudeville. and jimmy west, the buyer. his relationship with customers rock stars and fans that gives the store its edge over competition. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is
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of st. louis sending residents into shelters. minor damage report the in the city. part of a major severe weather system bearing down on the middle part of the country. nbc meteorologist bill karins is here with more. what's going on? >> chris, an early morning wake-up call for the st. louis area. they weren't expecting that. expectingen to thunderstorms, not a tornado. random on itself, did minor damage. someone ed said, it's going to be a long day in st. louis.
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a threat of severe weather all the way until midnight tonight. take you through you it and the rick area and threat. here's the tornado where it happened this morning near university city in missouri. that complex moved on. now getting a soaking rain, some embedded thunderstorms. not much severe potential now at least in the ohio valley. texas, one lone, strong thunderstorm. this one's producing large hail, gusting winds, crossing the red river between texas and oklahoma and heading for durant, texas. not a tornado threat, just large hail. take you into the situation. how is this setting up? very classic. this looks like a textbook case. warm, humid air coming up out of the gulf. cold, chilly air coming out of the rockies. it snowed hard overnight in colorado. combining in the middle of the country for an outbreak. here's the area of greatest risk. call this the moderate risk, the area of red means nor widespread. in the yellow, slight risk. not quite at widespread, the damage. as far as tornadoes go, the cities at most risk, springfield
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to joplin to fort smith. where the storms form around 5:00, racing to the east-northeast this evening. watching them head for little rock and south of st. louis crossing the ozarks and late tonight, after dark, the memphis area we're watching carefully, into paducah and the problem with late-night tornadoes, the storm chasers can't see them. it's dark out. not a lot of heads up. you hear tornado sirings and have to get to safety, assume the worst, hope for the best. we know how horrible this winter was. so cold and snowy. we've had very few serious tornadoes so far this year. only 70 total. typically about 250 at this point. now that winter is officially over, now it looks like we're going into our tornado season. tonight's the first threat. >> those statistics mean nothing if in bed and hear the sirens going off. >> scary for your family and kids. get them to shelters. that's will be happening tonight, thanks so much, bill karins. a powerful aftershock rattling northern chile
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triggering another round of tsunami alerts. you see hotel guests running out of a shaking building's no immediate reports of additional damage or injure is. tuesday night the 8.2 quake killed six people. president obama officially declared a itch maer disaster in the area around that deadly landslide in washington state. this will make money available to help people and businesses. officials raised the death toll to 29. 20 others are still missing. day 27 and the search for malaysian airlines flight 370 is so desperate, a hollywood plane is being called in for help. "lord of the rings" director peter jackson's jet is believed to provide communications relay to ten military planes. meanwhile, the middia center from malaysia is closing today no longer providing updates. and looking for a 63-year-old woman believed to be killed by a shark.
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police say she was an experienced swimmer but witnesses saw a 13-foot shark in the area before she disappeared. could be a second attack in a popular beach close to sydney after the body of a missing diver was found with shark bites on it. after the break, new details on the fort hood shooter. the army says he was being treated for anxiety, depression and sleep problems. last seen by a psychiatrist a month ago. we'll talk to a doctor who's treated soldiers returning from deployments. stay with us. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪
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ivan lopez was undergoing treatments for depression, anxiety and sleep loss. he was provided drugs to address
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this he these issues. here's more. >> as of this morning we had no indication on the record of that examination there were signs of likely violence either to himself or to others. no suicide's ideation, so the plan forward was to just continue to monitor and to treat him as deemed appropriate. >> we are expecting a press conference from the doctors treating the wounded in the next hour. for now let's talk to don borrelly, an nbc news security analyst, dr. deb, assistant professor as new york school of medicine and directing the pain medicine areas. there's a lot with know about ptsd but even more we don't know. the national institute a of mental health says it impacts 7.7 million americans. what can you tell us within this context, because you know some
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people will hear that he saw a psychiatrist, that he was being evaluated but had not been diagnosed and people will ask the question, well, why didn't we know something might be coming? >> ptsd by itself, it doesn't make people violent. so you can't really predict if someone's going to become violent under these circumstances. it's impossible to know what's going on in their own mind. but the key with ptsd is to understand that the person has experienced a trauma and so they're reliving that in their mind. so if he saw something while he was in iraq and he's reliving that at that time, that might have predisposed him to violence. at the same time, are to the psychiatrist, they're in a difficult position. you don't want to take away someone's freedom, hospital someone and say they are violent or that they might hurt someone when you really don't know if that's going to happen. things can change at any moment. >> you hit on something that may be important here, because one of the things we heard from secretary mchugh was that his records show that he had no
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wounds, no direct involvement in combat, no record of purple heart activity, no record of any injury but you say maybe it was something he saw, something he experienced, that might have been outside personally getting involved in combat? >> that can happen, because trauma is different for different people. even now at this fort hood shooting, people who might not have been at a previous one may stay develop ptsd now. it's what a person internalizes and how in feel, respond to that trauma. the v.a. is good at bringing people in and trying to treat them. it's got a lot of resources for treating mental illness, but it's still very difficult without a cure for these types of symptoms. >> in the meantime, obviously, we want to know what happened here. what was the motive here? don, the fbi has come in to work with army officials on this investigation. what would they be doing now? what's their focus? it's not like they're looking for a suspect. we no who did it but want to know why. >> exactly. that's where the army c.i.d. and
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army fbi working together to put the pieces together looking at the crime scene, because that's perishable. looking to interview witnesses while their memory is fresh. victims to the ex-tents they can interview the victims healthy enough to be interviewered's they'll be doing a search warrant at the house, talking to family members, and anybody that might have had knowledge and could have predicted this. one of the key questions i would want to know is, where did the gun come from, why wasn't it registered? who knew he had a weapon, if he was having some mental issues, and if somebody knew that he had a weapon, why wasn't that brought to the attention of authorities? these are some of the early warning signs that you look at when assessing a workplace violence-type situation. this is a workplace violence situation. the workplace happens to be a military institution. >> and a huge military installation. we know at least last night investigators were talking to his wife. he was married.
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that might provide clues there. >> absolutely. they want to look for things that maybe could have been done to intervene earlier to prevent what happened but the immediate thing now, figure out why this happened, and hopefully down the road learn from it. >> they already have something of a timeline. they know he went into the one building and at least even though the alerts may have gone out, he got into his car and drove to a second location's we don't know if people were targeted, why he went from one bill building to the other. one of the questions they'll look at, response time. >> of course they'll look at that. you mentioned this is a very huge installation. so response time, it's like any -- it's a city essentially. so they'll look at the timeline to make sure it was appropriate. but especially in, after recent events in military installations, this is something that they train for, active shooter sscenario. it looks like fort hood was ready, had the training, talked through the what if scenarios
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and it was handled appropriately and timely. >> one of the things that obviously we're going to look at as the days go forward and always do in this to situations that involve military, doctor, is, as you pointed out, we don't have the a direct correlation between ptsd and violence. 7.7 million people, the vast majority of them will never become violent, although they know, we have seen these incidents, whether something major like this, something that's in a home, it's also going to bring up a lot of issues for people who are at that base five years ago, for the nidal hasan shooting and back then the chain of are command knew there were mental health problems and critics say they didn't do enough to stop it, but talk to us about the broader price that we pay? not just in terms of something i-pry foale like this but for ptsd in general? >> we have a problem in this country because mental illness has so much stigma associated with it.
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people who could come forward, people suffering with nightmares, reexperiencing trauma, under tremendous pressure and anxiety, stay away from the medical systems because they don't want the stigma of mental illness. that's one problem. the second thing, it's important to talk to people in the community. we try to talk to police also. that if someone calling you and says, you know, they're a veteran and they're having thoughts about harming someone else, we don't want them to immediately feel they're going to be arrested or in trouble. yob usually, you don't want anything bad to happen to the public, but you want to actually bring that person into a hospital setting or support iran, because it's so important that that person themselves feels comfortable calling for help when something's happening. >> doctor, important points. thank you for being with us and tom, good to see you as well. president obama doesn't hold back in his fight to raise the minimum wage pulling no punches during a stop in michigan, were ut will he convince congress? that's next on "jansing and co." ♪
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in washington this morning, vote counting is under way in congress over the minimum wage after the president took the fight to a sandwich shop in michigan. seemed to have spring in his step and the president went off script dropping a couple zingers and hitting republicans over a budget slashing spending on programs. >> like that movie "ground hog day" except it's not funny. if they tried to sell this -- this sandwich at zingerman's they'd have to call it the spink burger, or the -- or the meanwich. now, to give them credit, they to have one original idea. which is, to repeal obamacare. because they haven't tried that 50 times. >> i want to bring in our washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times." political editor for the
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grio.com. it's no the something you hear from the president every day. words like stinkburger. "ground hog day" references, trying to get people's attention. is it working? >> it's, would go for the democratic base. it's working for the republicans who are running against obama obamacare becausemeans the lines are drawn sharply. he was having fun. it was a university crowd. a shout-out to the wolverines. can't hurt there. >> no. >> he knows the republican push for appeal is not going away. we know it from the paul ryan budget, from the proposal bobby jindal is putting out, thinking about running for president, so he is trying to deplate the issue. >> one of the things, obviously, perry, he's pushing, reason he was out there, minimum wage. and congress, no shock, divided osier it. almost duelling news conferences yesterday. democrats planning to hold votes
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next week to raise minimum wage. republicans voting today on a plan to roll back part of obamacare that they say will actually boost workers' hours. >> the american people deserve a fair shot. >> americans continue to ask the question, where are the jobs? >> it's time for people who are making the minimum wage to make more than a poverty wage. >> we want to restore the 40-hour work weweek. save americans workers act would do that by repealing the provision within obamacare that defines full time as 30 hours. >> 50 years later we are still fighting for equal pay for equal work. >> you know, the president likes to focus onning in inequality, but incomes are lower under his watch. >> and so it goes. so we know that the battle lines are out there, perry, but obviously, raising the minimum wage is not on the actually going to get done list by congress. susan collins says there aren't even enough votes in the democratic senator. so with all this talk, what are
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they accomplishing? >> they're laying the groundwork for the november elections. i mean, john maynard talked about not a lot of governing happening in the next seven months, people know that already. the minimum wage is popular. raising it popular. most democrats support it, most ibd dense and even mostrepublicans. we'll see on the campaign trail a lot of the key states, the minimum wage issue democrats are talking about in kentucky, in south dakota, their candidates focused on that, versus obamacare and opposing it. those enrollees mean nothing to republicans. they still think obamac.a.r.are the ish issue to run on. that's their issue and they're keep talking about it and hammering it home. >> sorry for the short segment. a lot going on today. breaking newswise, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. today's tweet of the day comes from hillary clinton who will speak later this afternoon on this topic. a majority of lower waged jobs
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are held by women, raising the minimum wage is good for women and for the economy.
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another seemingly spontaneous selfie is getting major buzz on social media and touching off controversy. check out this photo, president obama and boston red sox at the white house tuesday taking on a samsung smartphone, we've learned in the past day, and maybe it's less than a coincidence. big papi has an endorsement deal with sang seung. a few weeks ago we learned samsung was behind this wild ly popular, and exclusive analysis. vice chairman of reputation.com. didn't know about samsung. david ortiz says they didn't put him up to this, though gave him the phone and taught him how to use it. >> cameras don't take pictures.
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people take pictures? is that the defense? >> samsung showed them, how to tweet it out and absolutely a commercial endorsement that got a lot of traction. >> some felt the president was used? >> he absolutely was uses. the president doesn't mind promoting business, but he wants to decide what he promotes and it's not likely a korean phone company, but we did get 40,000 retweets, 5 million twitter followers from sang seumsung, af people liked it, but also a lot of chatter using the president like that. >> positivity on the obamacare side. we've tracked this over a period of month. the president and his signature plan haven't always been so popular. what's it look like now? >> not surprisingly, the business and ethical filters still run negative. the overall sentiment is 2-1 positive, a distinct turnaround from 2-1 negative we talked about in the past. 7 million people enrolled.
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really, two questions remain. the one your last guest was just talking about, will it still be a potent weapon for the republican bes in the midterms? and of the 7 million people that signed up, how many are healthy young people versus people with preexisting conditions? are they going to bankrupt the system? >> can we talk about the breakfast wars. taco bell and its clever ads, all the ronald mcdonald's, versus mcdonalds. what's social media say? >> giving both a lift. taco bell slightly more. taco bell benefits from the fact people didn't know they have breakfast. they introduced it in a very clever way. mcdonald's did a very good response with the taco bell chihuahua. an old symbol of taco bell on social media. so it's playing out actually quite well for both of them and helping the whole category of breakfast. >> what do people tweet about? tweet i just had breakfast at taco bell, or i like the commercial? >> they tweet how clever it is. how would you feel if your name was ronald mcdonald? send pictures of their own
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chihuahua. >> all ronald mcdonalds, actual people with the actual maim ronald mcdonald. howard bragman, great to have you here. >> go the to love those people. >> thank you so much. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm chris jansing. coming up on "news nation," tamron hall, live news coverage from the hospital where the victims are being treated from the fort hood shooting and talking to a doctor who specializes in ptsd. again that will do it for me. i'll see you back here tomorrow. i've always kept my eye on her...
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