be paid until end of the first quarter. they're going to say whatever it is. >> they're on the wrong side of history, and they're scrambling for talking points at this point. brian schweitzer, great to have you with us on "the ed show." that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, gop freak-out. millions of americans are getting ensured under the president's health care law and the right can't handle it. today house republicans voted for the 55th time to attack the affordable care act. that's right, 55 votes to undermine this law. and they trotted out some bizarre talking points to justify today's vote. >> obamacare itself, which is a fraud against the american people, calling the affordable care act the affordable care act is not true. george washington could not utter these words. >> it is obvious the president's

broken health care promises, have made lives more difficult. >> this law, this so-called law is a complete and total assault on women. >> i will not move on. i will not quit talking about the complete failure of obamacare. >> we know these guys aren't moving on. but the health care law is working. this week, the president announced 7.1 million americans have enrolled through the health care exchanges. millions more young adults were able to stay on their parents' health plans, and more got covered through medicaid. you'd think all those who predicted failure would be pretty embarrassed. but instead, the success has driven them completely off the rails. >> now, i've been contending from the beginning this is a ponzi scheme, and that they expect the young and the healthy to be paying premiums and to be paying for the sick, the elderly and the uninsured. >> this guy, you put him in a

military uniform, i'm not kidding you. you put him on a balcony in a military uniform, this guy is a full-fledged dictator. this is a complete, bogus fairy tale. this is completely made-up. this is nonsensical. >> how many people are signing up because they're doing it out of abject fear of the authorities tracking them down if they don't? >> health care is a ponzi scheme? the president a dictator? people are only getting insurance out of fear? it's like the greatest album, the hit album of the gop conspiracies. they're so desperate. one pundit even attacked movie star bradley cooper for helping to spread the word about the law. >> could you imagine if they supported the troops in this manner, troops in conflict, i mean, if they supported troops the way they supported government programs, imagine that in hollywood.

>> yeah, if only celebrities like bradley cooper would stop telling people to get health insurance and start supporting our troops. except he does support the troops. here he is visiting soldiers in afghanistan. here is a shot from one of his uso trips. and i guess they forgot about when he talked about mental health at walter reed hospital. it's just one more conservative attack that doesn't add up. and fighting this law is an uphill battle. the congressional budget office projects 24 million people will enroll in health care exchanges by 2017. it's great news for america, even if it's bad news for the gop. joining me now are congressman jim mcdermott, democrat of washington, and "washington pos post"'s nia-malika henderson. thank you both for being here.

>> thanks, rest. >> good evening. >> are your republican colleagues having a hard time accepting reality here? >> they are really apoplectic at this point. they don't know what to do. it turned out exactly as ms. sebelius predicted, and they don't know how to deal with success. they have lost and they can't admit it. so they keep throwing all kinds of crazy ideas against the wall, hoping something will stick. but i'll tell you what's going to happen. they're ultimately going to admit they failed, and they're going to pivot and start to say they're here to help fix it. and they're going to try and love it to death. that's going to be their next trick. >> nia-malika, the republicans are trying -- they're just tying themselves up, really. in all kinds of knots, trying to say they don't like the health care law and this and that about the health care law. but they do like what is in it.

listen to this. >> let's start with the idea that preexisting illnesses should not deny you coverage. >> their marching theme is let's protect the most vulnerable, those with preexisting conditions, those that have trouble accessing health care. >> the fact of the matter is that no one is against, you know, trying to cover people with preexisting conditions. no one is against removing lifetime caps on medical coverage. >> you know, it's almost like obamacare light. >> right. i mean, i think that's a good way to describe it. in talking to republican strategists specifically about what republicans might do going forward with some of the new numbers out, they do suggest that some republicans might come out with their own plans. and you've seen some of that. bobby jindal, for instance, out of louisiana had a four-page plan of what he would do around health care. he would repeal obamacare and replace it with certain other items that conservatives like. ben carson was on the hill today talking about the way he would reform health care as well. so i think you will see that from republicans in anticipation

of democrats saying, okay, what if you do repeal it, what are you going to replace it with. so i do think this week is something of a reset on both sides. on the one hand, you have democrats for the first time being able to out the these numbers of seven million, a number that will probably go higher in the next couple of weeks. republicans at this point also have to change their tune around health care, and in some ways also diversify the portfolio of things that they campaign on. it can't be just about being against obamacare. it probably will have to move also to the economy as well. >> you know, congressman, as nia-malika talks about they're going to have to change their tune, and you said the same in your last answer, we are hearing a different tone from some republicans. one congressman told "the new york times," quote, the law is real. it's there. you're seeing a recognition that the law's in place. and nevada senator dean heller says the health care law can't

be the only election issue. quote, if we think we're going to win or lose a majority based on one single piece of legislation, i think we're mistaken. you know, this the first step toward acceptance, congressman? >> i think it is, al. what they realize is that we've got six months until we get to election. and during that period of time, people are going to be talking all across this country back and forth from one state that has it to one state that doesn't. they're calling their sister who lives in tennessee or their brother who lives in alabama, and they're going to say we got this great thing in california. and pretty soon people are going to start to say to their members of congress, well, what have you done about it? you said we were against this. you said this was a bad thing. but my sister says it's really great for her. and that's going to turn the american people, because they're gradually getting the idea there is seven million people who got

something they didn't have before. and they are safe and secure. and they're going to tell their family about it. and that's going to drive the republicans crazy. they're going to have to come around to accepting. >> i can't help but think about all the gloom and doom we've heard before these enrollment numbers. take a listen to this, nia-malika. >> this could be a setback for the entitlement state and the liberal arrogant idea that could set them back for a decade. >> president obama will not recover from the health care debacle. >> there is no way they're going to get anywhere close to enrolling seven million new people who have paid for their plans. it just ain't going to happen. >> kind of didn't work out that way, nia malika. >> that's right. it didn't work out. privately at that time, democrats themselves were fuming about the roll-out. things have turned around

dramatically. in just these last couple of weeks there will makeup the gap between six million and seven million. it will probably go up much higher. i think democrats in the state races have to figure out how they're going to run on this. you have somebody like mary landrieu in louisiana where bobby jindal doesn't want to expand medicaid. she is going back and forth with bobby jindal around medicaid, of wanting him to accept this federal money that would allow residents there to get medicaid. slow it be interesting to see how democrats actually play this. so far you do have the president very much out there, very much having a bit of a victory lab. but the state by state races with the very vulnerable democrats, they haven't quite figured out what their talking points are going to be around health care, even though it feels like the president has given them something of a blueprint with the first speech he gave at the white house, and also that speech in michigan on yesterday. >> congressman jim mcdermott and nia-malika henderson, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> good to see you.

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congressman paul ryan's new budget is ruthless. it destroys the social safety net. but here is what makes it scary. next year congressman ryan hopes to chair the powerful ways and means committee, which has power over the tax code and safety net. "the new york times" says, quote, that would put a man with

a very dangerous ideas in a position to do serious damage. because while congressman ryan might look like a harmless budget wonk, his dangerous ideas are right out of the right wing talkers playbook. >> the wealthy, the rich, the achieved ought to be the role models for everybody. >> a lot of people are lazy, and a lot of people are becoming lazier. >> the more aid you give, the more excuse they can to ratchet up the tuition. >> we need to have a president who will sign a measure defunding, repealing, getting rid of and replacing obamacare. >> when you're hungry, you're going to figure out a way to eat. >> why are we giving "sesame street" money. why won't we give them a nickel? >> all of those radical beliefs, they're in the ryan budget. he is just like limbaugh. he thinks our rich role models deserve tax breaks. apparently, he also thinks the

poor will eat if they're really hungry, because he guts food stamps. and he might as well be a fox news contributor, because he also has some issues with "sesame street." let's face it. these ideas are dangerous, even if all they do is push the conversation farther and farther to the right. because as the president made clear yesterday, we're better than a winner take all society. >> look, it does create opportunity for a handful of people who are already doing really, really well. but we believe in opportunity for everybody. mortgage ops for everybody. more workers to fill those jocks, a world class education for everybody, hard work that pays off with wages you can live on, and savings you can retire on and health care you can count on. that's what opportunity for all means. >> we've got to give

opportunity, even if congressman ryan and his fellow republicans think otherwise. joining me now are congresswoman karen bass, democrat from california, and msnbc's krystal ball. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks for having us, reverend. >> congresswoman bass, there are some dangerous ideas in this budget. what are you going to do to fight it? >> well, what we're going to do is first of all inform everybody about it. remember, now, mr. ryan just put out a plan a couple of months ago about poverty. he said that he had this huge commitment to attack poverty. but yet he wants to cut funding for food stamps, pell grants, child nutrition, ssi for elderly and disabled. he wants to cut health care for low income folks. 69% of the revenue that would be raised to fund the tax cuts for the rich are done by essentially decimating the safety net. and this is how we address poverty. >> this is his legislation to --

or his budget to help the poor, help poverty. >> exactly. >> you know, krystal, president obama yesterday really laced into the gop for its new budget. and the party's failed priorities. listen to this. >> it was their economic plan in the 2012 campaign. it was their economic plan in 2010. it's like that movie groundhog day. except it's not funny. talk the talk about valuing hard work and families, or walk the walk and actually value hard work and families. you got a choice. you can give america the shaft or you can give it a raise. >> so the president went right at them. is this what democrats need to start doing, particularly in this midterm election year? >> it was striking to me that literally a day after paul ryan's new budget comes out, it's already in the president's speech, because it's the perfect

contrast between what democrats want to do, what the president wants to do, giving millions of people a raise with the minimum wage, and really focusing on fairness for working people and for the middle class versus the priorities of the republican party, which it's unbelievable to me that in this budget, the first thing he does, this so-called deficit hawk, paul ryan, to blow a hole in the budget by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest among us. then he seeks to make it up, as he always does, on the backs of the poor. well, then again increasing spending on the military. it's unconscionable. and you're right to point out the fact that even though this budget is not going to become law because we have democrats in place like congresswoman bass to stop it, even without it becoming law, though, it is dangerous. because it does drive our conversation to the right. and we've seen this obsession with deficit cutting. we've seen the damage that sequestration has done. so paul ryan's budget absolutely is dangerous and damaging. >> you know, congresswoman, the

right wing talkers and congressman ryan agree on something else, and that is that we should not raise the minimum wage. listen to this. >> if you want to spur teenage hiring, lower the minimum wage or get rid of it. >> yeah, well the minimum wage makes no sense whatsoever to me. i mean, honestly, it's just the black teenaged unemployment act. >> when we start talking about minimum wage of $15 an hour, what we're trying say is to that mediocrity should be rewarded. >> we will you support or block to increase minimum wage? >> it's bad economics, andrew. >> now, ryan says it's bad economics. clearly, we've seen any number of studies that indicate differently. and he is clearly following the line these right wing talkers are saying on a daily basis, congresswoman. >> you know what? and i really do think that's pretty sad. because on the one hand, he

wants to wipe out the safety net. on the other hand, he does not feel that people should be making a livable wage. so i think one of the things that they are confused about is they think the minimum wage is for teenagers, is for people who are just breaking into the workforce. the reality is that the way the economy has been moving now, you have many people who are making minimum wage, middle aged people. you have people who are married who are making the minimum wage. and so i think they are so out of touch. they don't recognize that one of the reasons why people need food stamps is because they are working full-time jobs. they just don't make enough money to buy the food. and they think the way to address poverty -- paul ryan on the first page of his poverty report says you can really address a lot of poverty through marriage. i mean, how ludicrous is that? so two poor people who make minimum wage, all they have to do is get married and instantly they're not poor anymore.

it just represents them consistently being out of touch. >> and, you know, talking about out of touch, krystal, the ryan budget also turns medicare into a voucher program, like -- it's voucher, like for senior citizens. 69% support the program as it is. isn't the move just as much bad politics as it is policy, and won't the democrats capitalize on this? >> i think they absolutely will. >> oh, yes. >> and the medicare changes we know are deeply unpopular, the voucherizing of medicare, deeply unpopular. the other piece of this that is amazing to me, he repeals the affordable care act in his budget. so strips health care away from millions of americans who have it now for perhaps the first time. meanwhile, he keeps the taxes in place. so you have all of the obamacare taxes and none of the health care. it's not feasible. the whole budget is based on a lot of accounting tricks and

gimmicks like that so it doesn't even make logical sense. and it is a truly heartless, immoral document. >> congresswoman karen bass and krystal ball, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> and be sure to catch krystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. coming up, should billionaires get more influence on elections than other americans? chris matthews joins me live, next. and outrage in new mexico. should new mexico police be charged for killing a homeless man? and donald rumsfeld doesn't remember anyone in the bush administration linking saddam hussein to 9/11. we have the tape. stay with us. [ man #1 ] we're now in the approach phase,

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court opened the floodgates to rich people buying elections, gop billionaire charles koch is defending all the money he's invested in republican groups and candidates. he surfaced to write a new op-ed in "the wall street journal," trying to set the record straight about what he believes. charles koch wants you to know that he likes liberty, freedom, and thomas jefferson, naturally. so what does he oppose? a lot, actually. he is against collectivists, big government, saul alinsky, people who promise heaven but deliver hill. now charles koch has the right to say whatever he wants, but should he and his brother have the right to spend unlimited amounts of money, to buy influence that normal americans don't have?

this isn't about free speech. it's about democracy. and making sure we don't turn into a country where politicians care more about the guys who spend millions on elections than the millions who vote in elections. joining me now is my colleague chris matthews, host of "hardball" here on msnbc. thanks for being here, chris. >> thank you, reverend. >> what's your reaction, first of all, to the charles koch op-ed today? >> well, i first thought about whether he thought about the liberty of salary hemings. weren't you thinking that? i was thinking that. i think jefferson said beautiful things. probably the most important sentence in our history, all men are created equal. probably the most important sentence ever spoken in the 20th century or many centuries. but yet when he went to write that sentence, he was shacked up with sally hemings who was a slave. and her brother was a slave. and his idea of liberty is somewhat limited. it's just somewhat limited. >> he forgot to mention, that

chris. you know, you're speaking next week at our national action network convention. i'm sure that line will be a big hit with my delegates from around the country. >> well, i don't know what their love relationship was, but we know their financial relationship. she was a slave, which is a starter for any relationship in some weird world of that century they lived in. i think charles cook, you notice in that op-ed that was supposedly for the national interest, he makes a case against supporting the -- what is that stuff called? now i'm getting confused here. using vegetables basically for fuel. >> right. >> and i thought, well, that was something of interest for a gaye that basically believed in oil and gas. of course he wants oil and gas to beat with out any of that stuff. so i think it's interesting that he would even throw in a commercial in his own ed. my thought is you could have a million coca-cola commercials over and over. things go better with coke. it's the real thing. that's not free speech. that's advertising. you run most of the tv ads for

your politicians. left or right, they're promotional. they're repeating the person's name over and over again saying how much they like people, how they're the real thing among a bunch of phonies. they're basically slogans. it's money. it's money talking. it's commerce to call it speech is ridiculous. you're not paying for somebody to help you write the gettysburg address or the king's speech. you're basically saying i'm going to get your name out there and i'm going to spend a ton of money smearing the other person and getting your name out front. >> now, he in his op-ed, koch lashed out at critics of the millions that his groups are spending to attack democratic causes. >> right. >> he says, quote, they engage in character assassination. this is the approach that so many despots have infamously practiced. i mean, how do you respond to that? >> well, character assassination from the day this president was elected, he wasn't here. he wasn't a legitimate president over and other again, whether it's donald trump or louie

gohmert or any one of the dos of others out there, spreading the word with john boehner underwriting it saying i can't disagree with these guys. it's not my job. talk about character assassination. they act like he is not president to this day. he is always a liar or something. they go after his character. they don't just say he is more liberal than me or he is bigger on government than me. these are legitimate arguments. or he has a different budget than me. no, it's always character. talk about character assassination with charles cook and that crowd, give me a break. that's what they do. >> now, big money donors of the gop are playing a bigger role than ever, chris, in 2012, the koch-backed network raised $407 million and sheldon adelson himself spent $98 million. and all that buys a lot of love. check out the republicans talking about the koch brothers and sheldon adelson. watch this. >> hey, listen, sheldon, thanks for inviting me. >> the koch brothers. because the two of them have

stood up and expressed their views are subject to vilification and personal attack. >> it would be impossible for me to be here and thank everybody without mentioning sheldon and mayor yam adelson. >> i just thank god there is a billionaire or two on our side. >> say sheldon and i owned a restaurant together. >> god bless the koch brothers. they're fighting for our freedom. >> god bless the koch brothers. so these guys are loving them as they give all this money. >> isn't it great when you've had relations with professional sex workers in both washington and new orleans that you can give blessings? i thought you had to be at least a minister like yourself, reverend. i didn't think a guy like bob mill kerr start issuing blessings. that kissing booth you just put together there is so embarrassing. i mean, it's one thing to take the guy's money. but do you have to kiss him? do you have to bow down before him? i mean, it's embarrassing in a democracy. i'm older than you, reverend. i grew up where the communists

would say would say we're all run by the rockefellers, it's a sham democracy. we're getting closer to that sham all the time. we're getting to a country we don't want to like because democracy is one man, one woman, one vote. what is this, one buck, one vote? and they're open about it. i don't know why they're so proud of this system. i would be saying necessary evil or that's the way the constitutional rolls. we got to live with it. no, they're out there today. they're the happiest people in the world today, the republicans, saying this is a win for our side. and you know what i think? i do respect the opinion of the supreme court. i like judge robert's decision on health care. i like a lot of the decisions anthony kennedy takes. they're very tough on social issues. you know what i'm talk about. but sometimes they just go to their corners. they just go to the republican side. does anybody think if there weren't five republican appointees on the court we would have gotten this decision? it's pure republican politics. it's money. it's money talking. and i hate to see it. >> how about democrats in this midterm election? >> get more justices. win presidential elections. outlive the conservatives.

they pick young people, if you notice. do you see how young they are, reverend? scalia is going to be there for 30 years. and alito is going to be there for 30 years and clarence thomas is going there forever. they picked very young. democrats pick these seasoned people who don't have 30, 40 years to go. so it's going to take a real to a long time to get back the supreme court. but they have to work on it. they just got to get a presidential elections under their belt and hold on to as many seats and win as many as they can, because there are some decisions tonight supreme court that are just based upon sheer partisan politics like this one. they really are. >> chris matthews, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> hey, thank you, reverend. >> and of course, you can catch "hardball" with chris matthews weekdays at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. and as i mentioned, i'm honored that chris matthews will be joining us at the convention for my civil rights group the national action network. president obama is going to be one of our main speakers. we'll be talking about everything from criminal justice

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it's time for the justice files. the big criminal justice stories making headlines today. joining me now, criminal defense attorney eric guster and former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst faith jenkins. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> we start tonight in detroit, and the fatal shooting of relisha mcbride. last november the 19-year-old was intoxicated and crashed a car into a parked vehicle around 1:00 a.m. she walked to theodore wafer's house. her family says to seek help. but the 55-year-old shot mcbride in the face after she went on his porch. he is charged with second-degree murder, but he claims self-defense, saying mcbride was trying to break into his house. today, the associated press reports his defense lawyers are planning to question mcbride's

past, asking a judge to let jurors see photos of mcbride's phone that show her with wads of money, alcohol, and marijuana. one is a blurry photo of mcbride holding what appears to be a gun. the lawyer says it's relevant to whether ms. mcbride had a character trait for aggression. a hearing on some pretrial motions is set for tomorrow. faith, should these records be admissible? >> no. and i don't think they will be. and if you can recall in the george zimmerman case, there were photos from trayvon martin's phone that the defense also wanted to introduce. they said that he had drugs or perhaps a gun in those photos. and the judge didn't allow it in, for good reason. this is a self-defense case. and the issue surrounding what happened are really about what happened that night. >> right. >> and this is between strangers. the defendant did not know relisha mcbride. he didn't know anything about her past. so what is really relevant is what happened that night there is an exception.

in a self-defense case when it's a homicide and you have an allegation that the other person was the initial aggressor, you can bring out evidence that that person had a reputation for violence in the community. so if they can find somebody that knows her reputation that is willing to testify she had a violent past in the community and that's what she is known for in the community, that will be an exception. but these specific prior bad acts, i don't think the judge will allow them in. >> but attorney guster, this man that shot her had no idea of her reputation, whether she had money, any of these things they want to put in. isn't this case based on why he shot through the door at this woman that night? >> it is based upon that. and that's one of the problems that the defense will have in this particular case. because she was unarmed and outside of his house. he shot through the door. and what they need to look at in this particular case is, number one, what did she say to him? did she have anything in her hands, which she did not? i don't believe they will get any of those records in. and those things are not

admissible. >> and isn't it also going to be relevant, faith, that he did not make any claims in his statements to police about her saying anything or -- i mean, the initial statements he made doesn't seem to cover laying a foundation for any of this. >> the initial statement he made was he shot her by accident. >> right. >> and that is going to be a huge factor for him to overcome, because over time, after some reflection and thought, then he came back and said that it was self-defense. i tell you another reason why the defense attorneys are putting all of this information out there on what is on relisha mcbride's phone. they know people are watching there is a potential jury pool out there. and just like they did in the zirm man case that. >> want to get this case out there. this young lady is not perfect. she has some things going on in her past. maybe he is telling the truth. maybe she was trying to break in. that's the message they're trying to get out there to the potential jury. >> trying the victim rather than dealing with the accused? >> absolutely. and that's what they're trying

to do. they're trying to taint the jury, in an effort to put information out there that may not be admissible in court. they know that jurors are watching tv programs. they're watching the news. and they'll go into the jury pool with this on their minds. so that is their purpose of putting that out there now. >> now to the outrage in albuquerque, new mexico. last night friends of a homeless man shot and killed by albuquerque police held a candlelight vigil at the site where the man was killed. they were there to remember 38-year-old james boyd, a homeless and mentally disturbed man camping in the sandia foothills. the disturbing incident was caught on police helmet cameras. but a warning. the video you're about to see is disturbing. >> if you were down at a bar or a bus stop, i have the right to kill you right now because you're trying to take me over. don't get stupid with me. >> i'm not going get stupid.

>> you said you were walking out of here. and now you're bringing up assault and everybody is going to get hurt again? all right. don't change up the agreement. i'm going to try to walk to you. >> all right. >> keep your word, i can keep you safe. all right? i worry about safety. i'm not a [ bleep ] murder. all right? i'm not trying to harm you. all right? >> do it. >> get on the ground! get on the ground now! get on the ground! get on the ground! [ gunshots ] >> hey, buddy? >> moving up. >> get your hands out. >> still got the knives in his hands. >> still got the knives in his hands. >> behind you. is he moving? >> please don't hurt me. >> he is still armed. >> i can't move.

>> police then set a dog loose on boyd's motionless body and handcuffed him as he laid facedown bleeding. he was pronounced dead at the hospital the next day. the albuquerque mayor is now asking the department of justice to help overall its troubled police force. the police chief says it was justified because he threatened officers with knives. eric, should we see charges here? >> this is a case where the police officers could possibly be charged, rev. when you have a case where a man turned around, he did not have a gun, and he was shot in the back, that is a problem for the police officers. that is a violation of his rights, and it's a clear manslaughter case at minimum. >> and he was saying to the police, i'm not hurting you, don't hurt me. i mean, i don't understand how they say they were justified when you hear the audio and see the video of their own tape. >> right.

and police officer have a very dangerous and difficult job. you to look at the circumstances here. they were called and told in advance that this is someone who was mentally ill. when they responded, they so have responded not to a person they they thought was a dangerous criminal, but someone who they knew was ill. and they should have responded accordingly. they seem to escalate the situation themselves there is a spectrum of force that police officers can use. and on the very end of that spectrum is deadly force. it is their last option. they should exhaust every other use of force they can to detain someone before deadly force. when you look at that tape, it just doesn't look like they did that. >> and the gentleman was clearly away from the police. he was certainly no imminent threat to them, and was talking peacefully about this, eric. >> he was. and he was walking away, with a knife. he did not have a gun. there is no way he could have harmed those police officers to the point where they needed to use a gun and shoot him. and, rev, when they let the dogs loose on him. >> on him laying there. >> that was horrible that was

when the police officer should have tried to restrain him if they thought he was still a danger without doing that. >> let me go quickly to arizona and a distraught mother who had her kids taken from her. 35-year-old shennisha taylor, a homeless mother was arrested in scottsdale on felony child abuse charges for leaving her 2-year-old and 6-month-old in the car when she went inside for a job interview. she was in jail for 11 days and is out on bond. her children are still in the custody of child protective services. 30 seconds here, faith. should she get her kids back? >> absolutely. i don't think this is a case for the criminal courts. this is a woman who had to make a judgment call that most us know absolutely nothing about it. she wasn't at a bar. she wasn't at a club. she was at a job interview. they need to consider that. >> she should get her children back. that's why we have such a problem with homelessness in the united states. well need to address that. get these people help, get them day care if they're looking for jobs. she wasn't doing something that

was immoral. she was trying to make a better use of her life and get her family back together. >> eric guster and faith jenkins, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, intimidating voters. wisconsin governor scott walker just signed a bill letting poll watchers stand as close as three feet from voters. why we won't be bullied, next. when you only have one hand, you're not doing anything as fast as you used to, which is funny, because i still do it better than her. [ afi ] i do not like sweeping. it's a little frustrating. [ zach ] i can't help out as much as i used to. do you need help? let's open it up. [ afi ] it's a swiffer sweeper. [ zach ] it's a swiffer dusters. it can extend so i don't have to get on the step stool. ♪ it's like a dirt magnet -- just like my kids. [ afi ] this is a danger zone. voila! i am the queen of clean! [ zach ] yeah, this definitely beats hanging out on a step ladder.

we're still seven months from the midterm elections, but the gop is already working overtime to scare americans away from voting booths. wisconsin governor scott walker just signed a bill that will let so-called poll watchers stand as close as three feet from perspective voters. three feet. how close is three feet? it's as close as this. this is how close poll watchers in wisconsin will be able to stand next to voters. this isn't about poll watching. this is about poll intimidation. for years, voters in minority districts have complained about being intimidated by poll watchers from groups like true the vote. and that's exactly what those groups want. >> for any of you that have seen

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we're moving from one person, one vote, to $1, one vote. it's not fair and it's not right. but we don't have to take it laying down. if you want to fight for what you believe in, there is no price on taking action. in 2012, a genuine people's movement rose up despite big money and voter suppression to make their voices heard at the polls. that's what we needed then. that's what we need even more now. now is the time to get up and work for it. they may have the billionaires, but we can mobilize people that want to protect their vote no matter how they vote. but they do not want the integrity of a democracy to be up for sale or be overridden by billionaires. we must build a people's movement starting now so that we will let them know once and for all that we are not for sale,

and we're not for intimidation. we must protect what others gave so much to begin to give us the right to have. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. money talks. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this supreme fiction that money is speech. if i'm one of the koch brothers and i spend a couple million dollars, say, out of my billions of dollars running tv ads and radio ads all over the country for various candidates throwing in the name, but saying the same old slogan, george smith or whoever, in the world of phonies, he is one regular