®. (agent) i understand. (dad) we've never sold a house before. (agent) i'll walk you guys through every step. (dad) so if we sell, do you think we can swing it? (agent) i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that i've found, the timing is perfect. ...there's a lot of buyers for a house like yours. (dad) that's good to know. (mom) i'm so excited. thanks for disrupting your afternoon. i'm karen finney. ahead in this hour, the gop just can't handle the truth about the affordable care act. we have a bold act that could give an advantage. >> put him in a military uniform, put him on a balkany in

a military uniform, this guy's a full fledged dictator. >> his lies, like some kind of a dictator. >> when they have not lied about obamacare. >> it's a fairy tale. >> it's beginning to break the backs of american workers. >> you cannot make this up, this comedy of errors. >> it's another giant scam. >> you get put on lists. >> he's sociopathic. >> how many of them are signing up out of fear? >> this is insanity right now. >> we could repeal obamacare and get this monkey off the backs of the american people. >> have you had enough? >> you can't handle the truth! >> if this is just the beginning, what is this going to turn into at what point?

the freak out is in full swing from coast to coast, from the prairies to the mountains, to the oceans white with foam. okay, maybe not all across america, but for conservatives, the folks just would blocks south of here at fox news headquarters and their republican friends in congress, the doomsday device has been triggered. don't say they didn't warn you. >> we're about 24 hours from -- from armageddon. >> the so-called obama care death panels are alive and well. >> of course there are death panel. >>obamacare is the number one job killer in america. >> you're going to have to look at your child with a fever for the first time since the great depression, look at your child and think should i wait until tomorrow and go into the doctor when my second child might catch this because then at least i can make more on my money. >> actually, no, this is what happened. >> many of the tall tales that have been told about this law have been debunked. there are still no death panels.

[ laughter ] armageddon has not arrived. instead this law is helping millions of americans, and in the coming years, it will help millions more. the debate over repeals this law is over. the affordable care act is here to stay. [ applause ] >> that's right. despite 55 attempts to repeal or dismantle the law, 7.1 million americans will now be insured under obamacare. republicans are freaking out. you know what? that's not anything new for them. i want to read you something one republican has said. "the lash of the dictator will be felt and 25 million free americans will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test." now, does that sound familiar? that was actually republican congressman john taber on social security, not obamacare, back in 1935. and how did that prediction turn out? one day everyone, including those on the right, are going to

look back and read something similar to that that john boehner or sarah palin said about obamacare and it will be considered just as ludicrous. until that day, they will not stop talking about the law that is helping millions of americans. eric, i'm going to start with you. this week we heard lots of new forms of crazy. give it to me. >> well, you know, these are the people who thought mitt romney was going to win in a landslide, day before. >> and they had data to prove it. >> they had data to prove it. so numbers and this group doesn't really mix. the larger question is this inpenetrable bubble they live in. if you think the health care act was passed 48 months ago, almost to the day and they spent four years nonstop obstruction, nonstop sabotage and it hit the

mark anyway. the freak out -- glen beck, if you want to google it, go google it. it was crazy. he was over the top, the veins popping. peggy noonan wrote a column, if you put the enrollment numbers aside, the whole thing is still a mess. it's kind of the main point of all this. their only strategy for the mid-term elections, they never bothered to come up with an alternative and they voted 51 times and the right-wing media and fox has used this for four years as free content. this is an epic failure on their part. >> joe, the latest, one of the ones i loved this week, the claim was that the books are being cooked on that 7.1 million number. i mean, come on! >> let's go back to october when we had this terrible roll-out and everyone on the left, the

right admitted it was a terrible roll-out. only 100,000 people signed up. well, guess what, they accepted those numbers and they didn't ask for any proof. they said oh, yeah. now it's just the opposite, 7.1, i had valerie jared on my show the other day and i asked her straight up are you guys cooking the books? she said no, look, we have independent verification, anybody can come in here and we can validate. people need to listen with a third here as a great politician once told me is that nen can ma -- anyone can make an accusation, these folks don't have to prove it. if the books are cooked, prove it. i will make one correction in what eric said. >> uh-oh. >> it's a good one, eric. they do have alternatives. they just don't have valid

alternatives. ben carson is running around talking about vouchers. and these kind of alternatives. but what they fail to realize is that this affordable care act 50 years from now, we're not going to remember their names. and i can guarantee you like president obama said, they probably won't even call it obamacare because they don't want to give him credit. >> although we'll still call it obamacare. >> i want to take a quick look at the numbers. 7.1 private insurance enrollments, 7 million medicaid enrollment, 5.4 million enrollment since 2013. and it been a job creator. >> i think we're up to a million jobs in the health care industry since obamacare. look, it was going to gut the american country, ruin jobs,

death panels, all of this. their biggest claim is nobody wanted it. even if the rollout had gone smoothly and the web site had worked last year, nobody wanted it so it didn't matter. this is a policy failure, a communication failure, a media failure. so the response is to seal that bubble a little tighter and yell at each other that the numbers doesn't matter and they're made up. but going forward they have to deal with the reality eventually. >> well, i don't know about that one. joe, it was interesting, too, because this week, even on fox news the question about an alternative started to creep in. i want to play some sound for you. >> why hasn't a full proposal of a completely different plan from the gop been developed, put out for the press to look at and dig into? >> i hope that comes but at the end of the day, we're just trying to deal with a law --

>> i pragmatism to realize this isn't working, let's start over, repeal every word of it. >> if you look at the 2 million pages you say i like pages 11,009, are you going to go through that and where is the cruz plan? >> joe, you got to give it to them. when they get on a message, boy, they stick to it. >> this old adage, you know, any jackass can kick down a barn but it takes a skilled carpenter to build one. they tend to forget that this affordable care act was built in large part through compromise starting in massachusetts the heritage foundation had a lot to do with it. people sat down in committees. do we not forget all of these meetings of republicans and democrats? but here's the real test. are you really going to take away the fact that your adult

children can stay on your health insurance now until they're 26? are you really going to people give back the rebate checks they got from health insurance companies if they went over what they were supposed to? do we really want to go back to the days where it's no longer an 80/20 fix? the answer to that is absolutely -- do you want to go back to where women pay more for health insurance? you cannot win an election by taking away from people what they want and then give them nothing, give them no viable alternative. >> eric, to that point, in john boehner's home state of ohio, we're talking 1.5 million uninsured and yet we've seen bobby jindal put out a plan presumably for 2016 based on taking away health care from americans. they're just not going to let go of this one. >> they're not. as joe is saying, you can't beat something with nothing. the republicans have adopted

this complete obstructionist approach. eventually they're going to have to put something on the table. boehner in ohio, uninsured, boehner in ohio with all the unemployment and he won't move in the house on unemployment benefits. there's a complete gap between the normal representative actions and what's going on in their home state. and with health care, they just have never acknowledged it's a problem. they have never -- going back to the clinton year, they would never acknowledge there was a problem with health care in this country and that's why they haven't come up with a plan. >> i think what they're really afraid of is democrats will get the credit for having brought health care to millions of americans. yes, you're right, republicans it, might affect the vote. >> thank you, yes. >> news today in the search for missing malaysian air flight 370. china state media reported patrol ships detected signals that authorities say are consistent with that of a black box. they also reported new objects

in the search area. so far neither the signals nor floating objects have been verified as from flight 370. coming up, congressman ryan unveils his grand plan for a budget and his gop associates were not so happy with it. >> if they tried to unveil this plan at a restaurant they'd have to call it a stink burger or a meanwich. make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrées crafted with care and designed to delight.

fancy feast. love served daily. add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get $100 off for every year of safe driving. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side

cut! [bell rings] this...is jane. her long day on set starts with shoulder pain... ...and a choice take 6 tylenol in a day which is 2 aleve for... ...all day relief. hmm. [bell ring] "roll sound!" "action!"

so today we want to recognize an individual who took a bold stand earlier this week and in the process may have given democrats their best

opportunity to flip what has become a gloom and doom script for the 2014 elections. of course i'm talking about none other than the honorable paul ryan, the pride of janesville, wisconsin, who revealed his latest budget this week. he didn't need to produce a new budget. the compromise he reached with senator patty murray a few months ago goes all the way through 2015. but poor congressman ryan was swiftly criticized by his own party for going through it because god forbid someone tell the people what republicans would do if they were in charge during an election year. ryan admitted in an interview it would be too expensive in his plan to reinstate the most expensive parts of obamacare, like coverage for preexisting conditions. thank you for your honesty.

what else would they do? they'd gut the programs making live better for people. the pell grants, food stamps and medicare, a gutted. as the ryan plan bravely reveals, the gop doesn't have any new ideas on how to boost the deficit or improve the economy. >> if this sounds familiar, it should. it was their economic plan in the 2012 campaign. it was their economic plan in 2010. it's like that movie "ground hog day," except it's not funny. >> he's right. there's no doubt about it. we've seen this movie before. every time ryan rolls out a new budget,ets a it's all about the nation's fiscal health and

nothing about the every day lives of average americans. we think the people know better and we want to thank congressman ryan for giving the democrats a boost in 2014. who knew it was going to be paul ryan giving them an tonight to flip the script. >> send him a thank you note. he's mobilizing the democratic base because he's going to say we want to cut all of these programs and these are programs that affect people's lives tanningab

tangiblely. and i think he's going to demobilize some of those republicans. i'm looking for a two-fer here. >> governor palin was upset it wasn't evil enough. i call this the boo radly budget because it's never going to leave the house. this isn't a budget plan, it's erotica fiction he's written for the koch brothers. it's about he wants to be president, he's auditions for tea party idol and you're going to iowa, dog, that's all this is about. after eight years of the bush unlimited credit card presidency, this president says the bill is here, kids and it's in your mailbox. >> the thing i do respect, he's being honest. we got to give him that, right? >> okay. >> particularly last night in his interview, he talked about

the most popular, things people like the most, coverage for preexisting conditions different rates for people who perform physical labor, he was very honest that people can say bye-bye to that should his budget -- but as you said it's probably not going to happen. >> he's banking on the general discontent with the a.c.a. people are still unsure about it. when people get something tangible and suddenly when you go and have a checkup and you've never had a checkup and that's going to be taken away? people like it once it comes into effect. >> john, also, i mean the classic, you know, paul ryanism is we're going to take away not just health care, but we're going to take away medicaid,

we're going to block grant it and snap is going to be converted to block grants. that's code. >> going after medicaid payments and food stamp payments is like invading iraq by going after 15 saudis. it's very fair to point out that paul ryan wants a government based on christian values but not based on the values of christ. you take care of the sick, you take care of the poor, you be nice to those in prison. acts of the apostle is pretty much do it yourself communism. this is an abdication of his own values. you can follow jesus, you can follow science but you can't follow jesus and rand at the same time. >> our pope has spoken so

eloquently about this and has called this theory of trickle down economics not worth putting any resources into -- >> he said it never worked. >> and he was right. who is going to argue with the pope on that one. but paul ryan has found a way to split down the middle and say, yes, we can have austerity and we can stay we're still having christian values and caring about the poor. >> i'm just so puzzled by the gop's attachment to religion and christianity because if you ask yourself what would jesus do, it is completely opposite of that. and also that lack of consistency. so we're going to fight for outlawing abortion but at the same time we want little kids to go hungry and not have medical care and we want to kill people in our prisons because that's what jesus would do. >> they know they're going to get their 23% to show up in 2014 for the mid terms. the real challenge here is this.

this is completely self-serving to paul ryan, it's a love letter to the koch brothers, he's trying to get funding. it does nothing for the gop in the mid terms. the democrats could use this to their advantage in the mid terms if they don't drop the ball. >> i want to play something said earlier this week on jansing because democrats maybe will get it together. i do think it's an important opportunity for them in 2014. we're already seeing some democrats tie republican candidates to this budget and maybe them have to explain. quite geniusiojean geniusly put corner. this is what steve israel said this week. >> it's going to be much tougher to be a republican running on the budget they produced which stacks the deck for the special interests and turns their back on the middle class. we're going to run on our priorities continue to vest in the middle class and expand the

economy. >> the question is, can democrats put republicans on defense, right? republicans thought they'd be on offense using obamacare with no alternative. now democrats have a chance to put them on defense. >> yes, absolutely. i'm going to put on my political psychologist hat. >> please. >> it's not just the issues and letting people know about the numbers. it's about emotion. they need to use fear. fear and anxiety. we know from political psychology studies that when you cue fear, this primal sentiment comes up and you pay attention, you perk up. when you perk up, then that's when you vote. so i think this is an election where democrats need to be on the offensive and get out there and motivate and cue that fear that what can happen if paul ryan budget could become a reality. >> there is certainly plenty in the budget to be very afraid of.

hopefully democrats will listen to your advice. thank you to john and defrancesca. >> coming up, chinese media report new findings in the search for missing malaysia airlines flight 370. that's coming up next. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. alka-seltzer fruit chews. enjoy the relief!

you're an emailing, texting, master of the digital universe. but do you protect yourself? ♪ apparently not. when you access everything, you give everyone access to everything about you. but that's ok. while you do your thing... [ alert rings ] we'll be here at lifelock, doing our thing.

watching out for things your credit card alone can't. [ alert rings ] and relentlessly protecting your identity. get lifelock protection and live life free. [ alert rings ] we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours.

stay tuned to msnbc throughout the evening for any developments in the search for malaysian airline flight 370. cctv reported a pulse signal was picked up by a chinese search vessel in the south indian ocean. shortly thereafter chinese media claimed their search plane spotted debris floating in the sea. they have not confirmed the signals or objects are connected to the missing jetliner. authorities said those signals are consistent with what would be heard from a black box. we'll continue to monitor the

situation and bring you up to date. >> in the wake of what happened this week at ft. hood, how with we support our veterans coming home from war? that's coming up. probably about five times. it was different than the other times i tried to quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. that helped me quit smoking. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking, or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix, and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental-health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away, as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood-vessel problems or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. use caution when driving or operating machinery.

common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping, and unusual dreams. my quit date was my son's birthday, and that was my gift for him and me. [ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. your chance to watch full seasons of tv's hottest shows for free with xfinity on demand. there's romance, face slaps, whatever that is, pirates, helicopters, pirate-copters... argh! hmm. it's so huge, it's being broadcast on mars. heroes...bad guys...

asteroids. available only on mars. there's watching. then there's watchathoning. ♪ there's watching. then there's watchathoning. ...return on investment wall isn't a street... isn't the only return i'm looking forward to... for some, every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college.

our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. we've got new information today on what may have motivated army specialist ivan lopez to go on a shooting rampage earlier this week in ft. hood, texas, killing four including him. they believe it was escalated by an argument between he and officers in his unit. they say he was being treated for anxiety and depression. it seems unclear what impact his mental health may have had while officials late on friday said it was not, quote, a direct precipitating factor. just a day earlier the base commander suggested his mental condition could have been an

underlying cause. the shootings have again renewed a national conversation about the impact of u.s. wars in iraq and afghanistan on the 2.6 million americans who served. it's troubling that it took such a tragedy to make us pay attention to these issues because it's a conversation we desperately need to have and continue to have. we've seen that while better gear and high-tech body armor have saved more lives on the battlefield, we're still beginning to understand the unseen wounds that service members bring home with them. a new poll by "the washington post" and the kaiser family foundation paints an extensive picture of what veterans experience when they return and how they feel about their service, excluding the all-too-common myth that the trauma of war makes people violent. in fact, while many veterans have mixed feelings about the war themselves, almost all say they're proud of their service. as americans head to tvoters he

it's a reminder of our service. >> joining me now -- i'm so sorry, i said your name wrong. i feel like because we're friends that's okay. thanks to you both for joining me to talk about this. i want to start with you, rajeev. the series sheds important new light of what is going on in the minds of our veterans. 1.1 million say they're in worse physical health than before they left and almost a third say they do suffer from mental and emotional health problems. tell us a bit about what you found in that study. >> so this is a group of americans, 2.6 million americans have served our country in

uniform in iraq or afghanistan post- 9/11, a group of americans that are coming back beaten up a bit. they have physical and maeental health challenges, 55% said they feel disconnected from civilian life but 56% say they're frustrated with the level of services they're getting from the veterans administration and t the pentagon. they've got some real issues to deal with. at the same time when asked do you feel proud of what you did out there? 90% say or almost 90% say they're proud of what they did in the wars opinion asked would you do it all over again knowing the dangers and separation from the family, 89% say they'd do it over again. this is not an angry and bit are group of people.

this is a proud group of americans who just want what is due to them when they come back home to america. >> kayla, i want to talk about that a bit. as rajiv pointed out, only 35% said both wars were worth fighting. 90%, though, felt they performed actions that made them feel proud. i know you served in iraq and i wanted to get your take on that sort of dynamic. >> that's absolutely true for me. i didn't support the war when we went, but you swear an oath to protect and defend the constitution, not to a particular political party or a particular president. so i took part of the invasion and was proud of what we were able to accomplish in our little part of iraq. i felt that i was able to make a positive difference in the lives of the iraqi civilians that i encountered, as well as the lives of my fellow soldiers. so even though i was conflicted about our overall national decision to go to war, i was

proud of my accomplishments and what my unit was able to do. >> you know, kayla, as a follow up to that, i was looking at the images and i have someone i care about dearly serving, as i looked at the pictures of people lining up for hours waiting to vote, does it give you pride in helping to make today happen? >> definitely. i felt that way when things were going well in iraq, too. then when we've seen things get worse in iraq given, it very disheartening. really i'm not sure if we'll know for a generation or more whether the u.s. involvement in iraq or afghanistan has had a positive or negative impact on the region as a whole.

>> the average age of those coming home is about 25 or so. these are issues we're going to be dealing with for a very long time. and it strikes me as a country we're not prepared to have this conversation. we've heard all of the rye things but just as a country, are we really prepared for this conversation? >> i don't think as i country we really fully understand both the veteran experience and the overall scope of the challenge. i think in some cases we won't know the full, tent of the consequences of mild traumatic brain injuries that some of our troops is faced for five or ten more years. for some of them their symptoms won't manifest immediately so the scope of the problem could well grow. we have a great thing in this country, the all-volunteer force, the individuals who have gone back to deploy time and

time again. we put a lot of responsibility on a very small group of americans, but what that has done is created a disconnect, you have people who don't care about the challenges because they don't care about the war and don't know individuals who have served there. >> i wanted to talk about ptsd and mental health issues. i think it's pretty clear that what happened at ft. hood is necessarily what we're talking about. at the same time, i think they are critical issues that we need to talk about because as rajiv pointed out, so many of us have no real understanding of that experience. i know you've had an experience with ptsd. i wonder if you would talk about that a little bit. >> sure. my husband sustained a penetrating traumatic brain injury in iraq in october 2003 and subsequently developed fairly severe ptsd. my new book is about our

family's journey from that war trauma to healing and recovery. and it is a very treatable mental health condition with evidence-based treatment, it is a manageable mental health concern for the vast majority of people, but you do have to seek out help. and one of the things that's been very challenging for me and many of the other vets i know in the wake of this horrible tragedy and i do seasoned all of my empathy to those affected, is the media narrative that immediately jumps on, oh, it's about ptsd when the reality is that ptsd is not associated with this level of violence and there's no statistical correlation between ptsd and this level of violence. i'm concerned that employers will be afraid to hire vets when the vast majority come home and

find ways to contribute in new ways using the skills and leadership experience that we got in the military. i really want to say any veteran in crisis should call the veterans crisis line, 1-800- 1-800-273-talk. it's very important to noknow tt because seeing things like this can trigger issues. >> there's a broader question in this country where we sort of don't understand mental illness or if someone is in crisis. it doesn't mean that person is necessarily violent, they just need some help. and it important that we don't stigmatize our veterans so this will come forward and get help and also recognize they have served this country and come back with an amazing array of skills that can connect to the success of this country.

thank you rajiv and kayla williams. >> thank you. >> still ahead, election day winds down in afghanistan. that's next. for hearburn? yea. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. alka-seltzer fruit chews. enjoy the relief! mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition in charge™.

on buying a car for... [ bottle ] ensure®. when i was introduced to truecar,cess.. i didn't have to second guess myself. i felt more confident... in what i was doing. truecar made it very easy for me... to negotiate what i wanted, because i didn't really need to do any negotiating at all. i just knew from the get-go that i was... flat out getting a good deal. when you're ready to buy a car, save time, save money, and never overpay. visit truecar.com

 disturbing the pantry. ortho crime files. a house, under siege. say helto home defense max. kills bugs inside and prevents new ones for up to a year. ortho home defense max. get order. get ortho®.

as polls in afghanistan closed just hours ago, the day was marked by powerful images of bravery as the afghan people came out in unprecedented numbers to vote for their next leader. 7 million of the 12 million voters participated in today's election, in the face of threats of violence from the taliban, mortar attacks and bad weather. it was reported that overall security incidents were down from previous elections. it was reported a tremendous

number of women defying threats came out to make their voices heard today. in a statement issued this afternoon, the president paid tribute to the afghan people and the americans who served in the country for over a decade saying, quote, today we also pay tribute to the many americans, military and civilian, who sacrificed so much to support the afghan people as they take responsibility for their own future. nbc's chief correspondent richard engel is on the ground in kabul, afghanistan. >> reporter: what's remarkable is they say about 7 million votes were cast today. that would be considered a successful turnout anywhere else in the world, but the elections here today were still very violent. they weren't as violent as presidential elections here in 2009, but anywhere else in the world, this would have been considered a very, very violent day. 146 attacks on voters.

there were mortar attacks on voting stations, suicide bombing attacks on polling stations. the afghan police arrested two suicide bombers who were wearing their explosive vests. 89 militants were killed today, 16 members of the afghan security forces were killed, 4 civilians were killed. this was not a peaceful day. but relative to the last elections, they were better. the last time around there were 600 attacks on voting stations and on voters. what was also different this time is that the afghans did it themselves. there are about 33,000 american troops still in afghanistan, but today they were just on their bases. this were on standby. they were waiting for an emergency call to come to respond to an incident that the afghan police or army could not handle, but that call didn't come and the troops remained on their bases. karen? >> thank you, richard engel. coming up next, experiencing the

sights and sounds of the civil rights movement at the national civil rights museum at the lorraine motel, nearly a half century after the assassination of dr. martin luther king, jr. i've always had to keep my eye on her...

but i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care, i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile, not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still gonna give me a heart attack. innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare.

your chance to watch full seasons of tv's hottest shows for free with xfinity on demand. there's romance, face slaps, whatever that is, pirates, helicopters, pirate-copters... argh! hmm. it's so huge, it's being broadcast on mars. heroes...bad guys... asteroids. available only on mars. there's watching. then there's watchathoning. ♪

a celebration in memphis, tennessee this morning as the national civil rights museum reopened in the old lorraine motel, the place where dr. martin luther king, jr. was assassinated 46 years ago on friday. the new exhibit immersed people in the sights and sounds from key moments of the civil rights moveme movement. the museum's interactive experiences also serve as a reminder of the impact of individuals who continue to have

a movement that lives on today. sorry about that. joining me now the president of the national civil rights museum, beverly robinson and rashad robinson, executive director of the organization color of change. beverly, talk about this renovation. it was the first renovation since it opened in 1991. i was there -- i've been there previously. the renovation sounds amazing. tell us about what some of your key goals were in this renovation. >> well, one of the things we wanted to do in the renovation is we wanted to make sure that we updated history. of course since we opened in 1991, things have changed. people who committed heinous crimes have been brought to justice. as we have grown and developed and hosted 200,000 visitors, or more than 200,000 visitors on an annual basis, of that number 50,000 to 60,000 school children, we realized we needed more bathrooms.

i know, i know. >> you do what you need to do. >> that's important, i know. we also wanted to make sure we changed the way people experienced this history. people no longer want to walk through a museum and read a book on a wall. they want to be engaged and immersed in the experience. we have lots of multi-touch, multi-us multi-user interactive experiences. >> you and you wanted to introduce people to names they may not know and the idea that individual people played a role in extraordinary ways that you might otherwise not know about. >> well, absolutely. i mean, we already had a great national civil rights museum, but what we wanted to do is expand the story. so many people before coming here literally thought that this was a dr. martin luther king museum and while dr. martin luther king was certainly a

central figure in this narrative, what we realize was that we needed people to hear the voices of every day people, the colvins, people who actually did things, ruby bridges, folks like charles steele, those individuals that people doesn't know every day, they're not common days, they're every day people who took extraordinary stands, had the courage of their convictions to stand and indeed made a difference in this country and hopefully through their stories, all of us vicariously can be inspired to make a difference today. >> rashad, one of the things i love about this museum, you approval visited before the renovation, it shows a full arc -- i hold you up as one of our modern civil rights leader as we talk about marriage equality and ongoing struggle in civil justice. that's so important for your generation and younger generations to feel brought into and engaged by this movement.

>> absolutely. so often when we hear about the civil rights movement today we hear about what was won and earned decades ago. but as the struggle continues we need to be just as concerned about what are the new issues on the table, the aspirational moments, whether it fighting for loving and committed couples to be able to have the same protections, for young undocumented youth to have a pathway to citizenship, for black young people to be able to live in their community safely and be able to deal with police who treat them with dignity and respect, these modern day moments, these moments where we are working for our aspirational opportunities to hold government and corporations accountable, there's so much we can learn from the stories and the moments of the past. the strategies and tactics employed by those like dr. king and others. >> beverly, there is an exhibit

called the freedom sisters. talking about the women of the movement is not something we focus on enough. tell bus that very quickly. >> so many times when we go to museums and exhibits, we mostly see the men. but i tell you, the power behind the thrown happened to be sisters. ford motor fund had an opportunity to curate an exhibit several year ago, toured around the country. weep are now stewards of that collection. it really does talk about the many brave women, the merle evers, all of those folks and the work that they did to hold up the banner for so many other people, to give voice to the poor, voice to the disadvantaged and the families, people who are in poverty. by the way, we got a poverty

problem in this nation today. >> yes weeks do. >> so many people have sunk into poverty. >> beverly, we're going to have to leave it there unfortunately. it sounds wonderful and a wonderful celebration. beverly robinson and rashad robinson, thank you very. that does it for me. i'll see you back here at 4:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. surprise! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and see your fico® credit score.

save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.d everybody knows that. well, did you know pinocchio was a bad motivational speaker? i look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential. you have potential. you have...oh boy. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

(music) defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed. ♪ you have to let me know [ female announcer ] when sweet and salty come together, the taste is irresistible. sweet and salty nut bars by nature valley. nature at its most delicious. we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!"

♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours. >> ooh, yeah, baby, ooh, yeah. >> they are out of control. teens attacking teachers. fighting, hazing and beating each other to a pulp. >> yeah, man! >> they videotape -- >> they knew there was going to be this fight and they came with a video camera. >> then upload the footage to get their 15 megabytes of fame. >> they somehow think that by posting it on the internet, it's taken the criminal aspects out of it. >> but sometimes big brother is watching, and the teenagers get caught. >> the videotape is a critical piece of evidence that is uncontradicted.