(all) great! i love logistics. thanks for disrupting your afternoon. i'm karen finney. new revelations of the cia and torture and a new gop plan to save their party and the country. women of america, we just need to get hitched. >> every so often republicans do acknowledge that they are in a little bit of trouble. >> jeb bush and bobby jindal are promoting forces for a new super pac. >> new republican. >> new republican. >> that commercial is a dandy, isn't it? >> the senate intelligence committee torturing prisoners after 9/11. >> it chronicles a stain on our history. >> it's very sad to see senator feinstein and what she is doing. >> vice president cheney set a tone and an attitude for the cia. >> how many american lives would you be willing to put at risk.

>> it's about your right for communities and activities. >> if you think money is speech and corporations are people and the wealthiest 1% are persecuted in this country, then you will love this. >> either he is a liar or too naive to hold any important job, especially and including this one. this is like a legal ruling written by the little mermaid. ♪ in your forecast this week, democrats step up their economic message for the 2014 elections while republicans try to show that they stand for more than just saying no to president obama. after several weeks dominated by the crisis in the ukraine and enrollment deadline for the affordable care act, president obama is et goietting back to income inequality. the white house just announced new executive actions aimed at

closing the wage gap between men and women and the president is set to roll them back this tuesday. also known as equal payday. it's a push for female voters to bring them to the polls in november. house democrats and you can bet that you can present a different vision for the country than paul ryan's latest stink burger. meanwhile, two republican presidential hopefuls make the case for a republican party and if you're skeptical, you're thinking like a disrupter. joining me now, christina bellatoni and james peterson. thanks so you both. christina, i want to start with you on this push to get women voters. clearly women are the key to the democrat hopes in 2014, making a big push between the equal payday as well as the president's executive actions. >> yeah.

that's absolutely right. and it's not just women. women are part of the coc co-coalition. they go into hibernation during the midterms. the democrats can't afford to have that happen. control of the senate is on the line so they are trying to do lots of things to motivate people. what is interesting to me about this executive action is that it also opens them up to criticism from others who want to see him take executive action on matters like immigration. >> right. >> like on stopping some of the deportations that are happening, perhaps going further on marijuana laws. so there are a lot of different types of things that the president can do. >> and james, specifically, since the president took action on the minimum wage for federal contra contractors, the push has been on for him to do more with regard to immigration. there's a lot that congress needs to be part of and there's a feeling that he could be doing

more that he is not doing. >> there is. executive action is not the same and cannot be as pervasive as policy can. this particular action is interesting because it's kind of obama-style executive action. it's creating more transparency by penalizing people for retaliating folks talking about federal contracts which is kind of an end around, if you will. this is what we see from this administration a lot because when they do do executive action, people criticize them for being heavy handed, for being the uber president. it's really, really important that we have more trans parn pa. those of us who know the cloak around secrecy and salaries is the way that women of color are locked out of the highest pay and it's done in a way that obama knows politics. >> the only piece of this, senate democrats are going to

create the paycheck fairness act. it doesn't have much of a chance of getting passed. sorry. i hope that wasn't a spoiler alert. but it seems like the point is really more to make a political statement, to sort of get democrats during this election season as doing everything that they can to try to even out wages between men and women. >> completely. and you've seen the push for minimum wage increase that the president called for, not just in the state of the union but in the state of the union before that. in addition to that, the extension of unemployment benefits. this is a huge issue. the senate is poised to give final passage of this as early as tomorrow. roll call has been following it closely. eric cantor was asked about it on friday before they left town. he said we're only going to be supportive of legislation that creates jobs and to define themselves ahead of critical

elections. so the president is trying to give them something that they can campaign on. >> james, let's listen to minority leader pelosi talking on cnn about the vision that we're going to see this week. >> are you going to put a budget out next week? >> monday. >> monday? and does it balance? >> it's a about growth and growth will take us to balance. it takes us to about a 2% of gdp deficit which everybody says is -- >> assumes growth to balance? >> right. >> so now, i should also point out that there is a potentially vote expected on the ryan budget if they can get all of their ducks in a row we will see that. but really this document from the democrats, we don't have a lot of details yet but it's striking to me how this is about politics and again sort of laying out, here's our vision, here's the stink burger or ryan vision. >> it's certainly more about politics than policies.

it's unlikely the democrats in the house will be able to get all that they want. republicans are talking about job creation and they are talking about deregulation. democrats are talking about spending on education, transportation, long-term education. they say the same thing but there are very, very different visions on how to balance the budget and make it happen. it's deeply invested and replacing the sequester cuts with more reasonable ways of talking about our budget and across the constituencies. they are saying the same thing but with a very different approach. >> you really have to look at these. these are not budgets that are not going to become spending documents. >> it's meant to be a vision. >> and they are not going to become law. you have a divided government so it's easy for anybody to put policies to a number because these are not actual governoring documents. they are not going to become law.

>> given the framework that the democrats want to be talking about with offense on this election season is income inequality and they want to have their vision in there sort of in contrast. christina, we've got to get to, i'm so excited, new republicans. this is awesome. who new? we saw an ad out today that aired on the sunday talk shows in the district of columbia and on fox news on sunday and features two republican who is are basically trying to tell you, if you think a certain way, you may be a republican. i want to play a bit of it for you. >> if you believe that every parent ought to be able to choose their child's school and then you're thinking like a new republican. >> republican.org. join us. >> if you don't think a republican party should be the party of big government, big business or big anything, you're thinking like a new republican.

>> join us, newrepublican.org is responsible for the content of this ad. >> christina, i want to get your reaction. when i watched it i was thinking, what you're saying is what everybody thinks about your party right now and it's exactly how republicans in congress are behaving. but what is the goal with this ad? >> very peppy music, i've got to say. these are two governors who are trying to distinguish themselves as not washington. bobby jindal was in washington and i asked him about immigration. he made a point saying to secure the border first but we really want to see some sort of pathway. he was open to things and he was saying that an executive is going to governor. this is all about the 2016 presidential race. it's interesting that they are teaming up because they can attract more people to the party. that's their aim as in a time when members of congress are fighting it out over the inside washington game. >> christina bellantoni and

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for the first time, the american public will get a glimpse on the cia's torture in the war on terror. it's more than 6,000 pages. the probe is to be the most exhaustive report yet of enhanced interrogation techniques. it concludes that the cia misled government officials and the public about the severity and benefits of the program. but for her part, house minority leader nancy pelosi drew a different conclusion. >> i do believe that during the bush/cheney administration, cheney set a tone for the cia. many people in the cia are so patriotic. they protect our country in a

way to avoid conflict and violence, et cetera, but the attitude that was there i think came from dick cheney. >> leader pelosi is already taking criticism for some who are saying that she's politicizing the report but she may have a point. check out this appearance by the former vice president on "meet the press" back in 2001. >> we also have to sort of work the dark side, if you will. we have to spend time in the shadows in the intelligence world. a lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly without any discussion using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies if we're going to be successful. that's the world that these folks operate in. so it's going to be vital to use any means at our disposal. >> christina and james are pete. we're joined by lawrence, senior fellow at the center for american progress. lawrence, i'm going to start

with you. because one of the things that i saw striking about leader pelosi's comments is that she pl blames the idea on the administration that sets the tone and the people who work for the cia who basically follow how that tone is set by the administration. what do you make of that? >> well, there's no doubt about it that the bush sla/cheney administration said that she could do things that they had never done before. waterboarding people 60 times in ice water and the great irony of the whole thing is they didn't get any information. the information we got was people using much more conventional ways of interrogating people. >> christina, to that point, we mentioned in the intro that it's up to the white house but it's my understanding that the white house has already said that they are supportive of the idea of

making those 500 pages public but the cia at this point -- it's ironic at this point i guess -- is going through to see what needs to be redacted. to that point, this administration made a clear point in the beginning of saying, we're not going to look back. we're going to look forward and it makes you wonder, if these revelations are as damning as they sound like they are, will there be more pressure on the obama administration to pursue prosecutions? >> well, probably not, i would guess. i would also say that republican and democratic administration, there's a lot that goes on that we don't know and sometimes it's decades before we do know it. in some cases it's good that we're learning it so early and i'm always for transparency and disclosure. it's certainly going to ennafla some people. but there are a lot of consideration at stake here and when you think about how america

is viewed abroad, when you think about the promises that the president made in particular to close the detention center on guantanamo, this is a big issue and there's going to be more pressure to take that out and they are still so many other factors there. what do you do with the people that are there, how do you deal with the foreign governments that people are citizens of? it's not an easy issue and that's one reason that he hasn't dealt with it during his six years. >> lawrence, just to follow up, it may actually, this report reminds us of the legacy of torture. >> well, there's no doubt about it. and it continues to hurt our image in the world and in the struggle against the violent extremists. it's going to be one with ideas. to the extent that we can get this out and the president takes something. there's no doubt about the fact that if you looked at his campaign, he gave the impression that he was going to do something about these people who

went beyond the bounds but then leon panetta, the first director of the cia persuaded him to move on. but let's get this out and this morning general hayden, former head of the cia is on fox news saying that senator feinstein is too emotional? no. the committee voted 11-3 to put it out, including many republicans. >> right. and you know, james, to that point, because i was going to raise that, i found that to be an incredibly sexist and inappropriate comment. to what lawrence just said, james, i think it is appropriate to get emotional about the idea about torture and about the idea that the american government may -- the american people may have been misled on this. >> that's right. listen, the report is going to be surprising to many who have not been following this in the media when people read the stories about some of the folk who have died in sort of -- while being detained by the cia and being interrogated in which

they died, people get emotional. any time a political resorts to racism in their rhetoric, that's coming from a space of weakness and the reality is that there is going to be pressure on the president to do something about guantanamo bay. people understand that we can't do anything about guantanamo bay without buying from all parts of the government without resole veg it in a comprehensive way. if you haven't been following it, it will produce information that i think will shock people that americans are implicated in this kind of torture and torturing people beyond the point of knowing that they can give us any information. this is useless torture. the way they've heard about it before is that this stuff works. none of this helped us get os a osama. >> liz cheney -- chris matthews says that's the correct way to say it -- was on this morning

defending her dad. let's take a listen. >> if you're going to say we shouldn't have waterboarded three terrorists, then you've got to say that you're willing to accept the consequences of that and you've got to say, how many american lives would you be willing to put at risk because you didn't want to waterboard sheikh mohammed. >> it's so interesting to remember that, it's a core fund mantel belief. he's seen a lot of intelligence, has worked in all different facets of this industry and then, of course, as vice president, they truly believe that and there are a lot of people that truly believe that and it's a different type of report. >> this report will definitely reopen this conversation. we have to leave it there. thank you, lawrence, christina, and james. >> have a good day. more money, more problems?

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here's the thing, is it really going to matter? is it going to matter that now a single person, like alabama business person can spend as much money as he wants on as many federal candidates and political parties in any given election cycle? >> exercising free speech and economic status, all americans are entitled to free speech. this is a first amendment guaranteed right under the constitution. >> so it's off to the races to see who can pick up the biggest numbers. bring on the big bucks. my next guest is trying to change that. introducing legislation that, monday other things, encourages americans to give to campaigns by offering a refundable tax credit for campaign contributions. interim president of the joint

center for political and economic study is joining me now. spencer i'm going to start with you and the roberts decision and i'm going to read something to you that he said. it seems like he's living in a different world than the rest of us. he said, spending large sums of money in connection with elections but not in connection with an office older's official duties does not give rise to quid pro quo corruption nor does the possibility that an individual who has access to political parties. i think it's obvious from every day experience -- that may be a strong legal opinion but it's a flawed realistic theory. >> it's a flawed realistic opinion as well. citizens united, the old citizens united case, it basically allowed corporations to spend on elections. it also led to the creation of

super pacs. it did not allow an elected official to ask for a single check of 2 or $3 million. that's what this opinion does. basically a candidate can ask a billionaire for a single check of 2 or $3 million. that money is split up amongst candidates but just asking for 2 or $3 million check can lead to quid pro quo corruption. >> just to follow up on that, justice clarence thomas said in his decision, let's just get rid of all of it. to some degree i guess my question is, doesn't that even the playing field? even though there's no preconceived notion that anybody is playing by any kind of rules? >> i don't know that it evens the playing field. that's a conventional argument of conservatives like let's get rid of all of the regulation and kind of even the playing field.

the problem with that, though, is when a candidate puts that in his or her own campaign account, there's a real possibility of quid pro quo corruption. >> sure. >> we saw that with watergate and with nixon in terms of the watergate and things get tough in terms of democracy. setbacks in terms of the right of women to vote but people have pushed on. i think people will push on here. >> congressman, i want to talk about your legislation and how you are approaching this issue of campaign finance reform. give us an overview. >> well, our legislation started from the premise that the average person out there is completely fed up, frustrated, feels like their voice can't be heard in washington, in congress and that we have to do something to restore some confidence. so a lot of the attention is on what the big donors are doing and, of course, mccutchis opens

the door even further. every day citizens can get their voice back into the game. so the government by the people act is designed to do that. we would offer a small refundable tax credit for contributions to qualifying candidates that come from grassroots don ors. and if you do that, what will happen, karen, is members of congress and candidates won't have to go to the shawn mccutchins of the world, they can ask them to power their campaigns and get their voice back into the game. >> to that point, it's been interesting to see and we've got a little bit of sound from an ad that senator begich is running in alaska. what he's done is taken this idea -- a lot of candidates have

done it -- the koch brothers, similar to the barack obama/mitt romney bain capital not a fan of the people strategy. let's take a quick look at this ad. >> ads attacking mark begich have been called falts and not true. who is behind the attacks? >> the koch brothers. >> they come into our town and run it into the ground. >> leaving a mess. >> a lot of alaskans are losing their job and i'm concerned about the drinking water. >> congressman, i take your point about trying to elevate the voices of smaller donors, individual americans but some look at this and say, there's a political strategy to be had here and, again, a certain candidate would be quote/unquote bought and paid for. do you think that's an effective

strategy? >> i think it's worth pointing out the incredible undue influence and then on the governori governoring that happens after election day. we've got to find a way to empower every day citizens. if money is speech, then how do you get the speech of every day citizens into the mix here? the fact of the matter is, a member of congress who has to raise an average of $1.5 million every two years to win a campaign, if they need to raise that money, there's only one place to go for it, which is to the mccutchins. >> i think the other issue is if money is speech, part of having

big speeches, a lot of issues here. thank you, congressman and spencer. >> thanks. coming up, we'll look at the state of black america as president obama heads to the civil rights summit. and conservatives have the answer to all of america's problems. here it is. >> marriage. marriage is what brings us together today. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right, no hidden fees. it's just that i'm worried about, you know, "hidden things." ok, why's that? well uhhh... surprise!!! um... well, it's true. at ally there are no hidden fees. not one. that's nice.

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we all know american society has its shares of problems from lack of opportunity to our children and injustice. but it's the solution to those problems that has been in front of our noses this whole time. marriage.

heterosexual marriage, to be very specific. according to a panel at the heritage foundation, if women would just stop worry about being independent and start planning their walk down the aisle, things would be a lot more stable here in the us of a. according to the three speakers on the panel, a decline in marriage has led to a decline in happiness over the last 40 years, all because of a force that is threatening to tear the very fabric of society at the seams. f femininism. that's right. here's a lesson from those on the right. >> the decline of marriage as a universal norm has damaged men, women, and children. >> what is more fun for a man than to come home to a quiet house with happy children and a loving spouse? >> women's overall level of happiness has dropped since 1972. >> the wife appreciates her

husband's appreciation. >> we find that as men have more domestic work they enjoy it and women leave that spirit less happy. >> women know that because of the nature of their bodies, because they carry and bear children and nurse and nurture children that they need protection and support. >> i was so proud of my man growing up to make a living for us. >> everybody, go out right now and get married and we can solve all of these problems. >> okay. joining me now, political analyst and contributor of thegrio.co mchl. one of the assertions is that if you're a feminist, you are not married and clearly that all it did was make women up happy. >> happiness, what is that?

what type of poll is that? is happiness getting paid equally, doing the same job as a man? is happiness not being victimized physically by an abuser? is happiness being able to go to college and not have massive student loans afterwards? i mean the marriage. so just for the record, i know plenty of unhappy married people, not to shout them out or anything like that but the idea that marriage is the saviour of all of the issues of the day is just completely wrong. it's almost litthilarious. >> i want to redo a quote from mona because she negated a cause and effect and part of the argument that she was making in terms of the deeper sort of reasons that we have some of these inequalities and issues. she said, "the collapse of marriage among the uneducated and partially educated has unquestionably been a social and economic disaster.

the data are overwhelming that children raised by married parents are happier, healthier, do better in school and are more likely to attend and finish college than peers from single-parent homes. this is true without regard to race or ethnicity. in fact, being raised by a single mother is better predictor of poverty than race. >> it completely diminishes all of the things that we know in terms of single working moms and working moms in the home, the challenges that families are really facing. >> i think that if they really want to enrage a lot of men, too, this should do it because lots of men have been raised by single mothers and are incredibly proud of being in that family situation. you know, this is just denial of the highest order of the reality of modern life. life has changed. we're no longer the nuclear family on father knows best and we're not going back to that and it's a good thing. do we really want to go back to

the way things were back then? i think the issues for single moms is incredible important here because 40% of all households in this country who have children in them are headed by a woman who is the bread winner. >> right. >> and 29% of those are partnered women who are earning more money than their husbands and the rest are single moms. these moms are doing a great job and poverty, by the way, is an economic issue. it's not an issue of marriage. >> something like this means that you don't have to talk about things like college afofo affordability. >> or a wage gap. >> one piece got to me that i want to play, this idea that feminism. >> suppose she's well enough to attend college. is her -- is she content to send

her daughter off to a campus where looking up is normal and date rape is difficult to prevent? if so, she can thank feminism for that, too. >> men have no role in any of that. it's all feminism. >> it's simply not true. it gave us the language that we can call it date rape because it was rape with an acquaintance or within a marriage. historically, rape within a marriage wasn't even illegal and many people in the conservative movement, you know, i think agreed with that position historically. so if we're going way back when before it was unacceptable and i think that the idea that date rape is something that feminists have caused and not rapists. >> doesn't also that perception contribute to something that we've talked about before, to misunderstanding what is really

going on when you have that kind of behavior between a man and a woman, right? >> it's outrageous language and it's going to get picked up all over the country. it's just the worst kind of victim blaming that you could ever state. >> you know, here's the thing that struck me about this. to some degree this is blaming feminism as a political strategy. part of it is, hey, go out and get married and also just blaming feminism and unmarried women to shame them into feeling somehow less are or that we're to blame for society's problems to say, and if you're voting for democrats, it's because you want more of that free stuff. >> single women have a lot going on. you have child care to take care of, rent to take care of, feeding your family. there's a lot of issues that you're focused on and don't necessarily have the time to

tweet or go out into the streets and protest policies that republicans are putting forward. so i think that they think if we marry off these single women, this dormant group would vote for republicans. we know that that is not true. we saw the race in virginia. it was a key indicator. it's not simply just single women. it's black and latina women making up the gender gap. that has to be do policies. pay equity, minimum wage, it all has to improve the lives of women of color. >> quickly? >> i think it's the cinderella promise is is not true. these people need to think about, what about divorce and domestic violence? at 50% divorce rate still today, this is something that we need to consider about women and their health. >> let's hope that it's not going to work in 2014 and beyond. thank you. ahead, the latest on the

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presidential summit to celebrate the civil rights act, the national urban league 2014 report state of black america released earlier this week documents both the progress that communities of color are making. the report's 2014 quality index again this year uses five indicators to track progress, economics, health, education, social justice, and civic engagement. not surprisingly, the key finding, the job crisis continues to contribute to the growing inequal teity among col. they are seeing positive gains in the black and latino communities. >> thanks, karen, thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here. i want to talk about one of the things that struck me in the report is you're tracking the progress or lack thereof. why are some of the persistent

factors to inequality? you've talked a lot about it. frequent, increasing the minimum wage. we know the president has talked about my brother's keeper. >> we have to focus in on education and workforce training. the economy needs a lot more stimulus and energy and activity. so we think increasing the minimum wage, which people tend to forget will put money into the consumtive side of the economics but also investing in our infrastructure. broken bridges, highways, railways all across the nation. this is part of the united states congress and we need to do that now. thirdly, we feed to highlight the work that we are doing, which is the power of

partnership. >> right. >> urban league is working every single day to put people to work and to train them for the jobs of the future. >> you ranked metro areas and looked at things -- i think we have graphics. hispanic and white unemployment and you looked at where income is the most equal, where it is the least equal, and also areas where unemployment is an issue. tell me about some of those findings. >> here's the most important thing. there's a wide disparity in all 80 of these cities between black, white, latino, unemployment, and median income. now, inside of that there's another picture of which cities had an economic situation in

those communities. you can have a lower disparity but that means that all communities are not doing well in a particular city. >> uh-huh. >> or you can have a higher disparity, yet washington, d.c., is a perfect example where the median income level for african-americans is 60,000. for whites it's 100,000. well, that 60,000 means it's much, much meyhigher than it is other u.s. cities. it's an interesting picture. what i like to tell people is that the issue of racial jobs, inequality is part of a bigger picture. >> uh-huh. >> of the growing divide in this nation that is emerging post-recession. >> and it sounds like we know what we need to be doing. one of the things that i wanted to talk to you about that i thought was very interesting was the increase in civic engagement and that took into account involvement of the 2012

elections. looking forward to 2014, what's the catalyst going to be to get black and brown voters back out in the midterm elections? >> i think in '08 and '12 it was the presidential election and the power of barack obama and i would say the innovative efforts that his campaign made to turn out the vote. i think in 2014, what is clear is that if the turnout is like 12 and 8, you're going to have a very different kind of an election cycle. >> right. >> an if it's like 2010. >> right. yes. >> it's important for people to understand that the power to impact these public policies is in the hands of people. >> absolutely. unfortunately, we have to leave it there, thank you, ma marc morial. this week, today's leaders and civil rights advocates will

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