and that is a problem. and this is the perfect example of it. >> today is a great example of that. patricia murphy, thank you for your time and thoughts. that is all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. heereastern. the ed show is coming up next. welcome to the ed show live from new york. we got a new saying. i'm ready to go. let's get to work! >> we cannot look at our budget through rose colored glasses. >> so we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> if you don't do the things that are in this budget because it hurts too many people. >> as a make, i'm sick of the low income takers out there always asking for more. >> as many as 15% of walmart employees use food stamps. >> don't simply feed fish. >> there is more to walmart than you think. >> how much will that mac and

cheese might cost. >> anyone can afford food there except people who work at walmart. >> that is one penny per box of mac and cheese to save u.s. taxpayers $300 million. >> we cannot look at our budget through rose colored glasses. good to have you with us. if you want to know what the people think, you got to go out and listen to them. that's really been our mission here the first quarter of 2014, to get out with the folks, see what is happening. so of course we here on the ed show traveled the country, talked to a lot of folks. we've been to four red states, three blues, and of course the swing state of florida. that's right. ohio, florida, south dakota, arizona, wisconsin, nebraska. we're not done. i've talked to a lot of folks from the steel workers to the native americans out on the prairie in south dakota. not one person, not one, has

said that they want to cut government spending. they're just not there. no one has said you know what, we got a real problem with medicare, we got a problem with food stamps. social security, we have to prioritize it. i didn't hear that anywhere. not one person told me they want republicans to take away their health care and they really support this vote that has been taking place week after week in the house. meanwhile, this guy, this guy right here, he thinks he has all the answers, but i'm wondering how many americans has he really talked to. this guy wants to do a heck of a lot more. you see, this failed vice presidential candidate paul ryan, his 2015 budget attacks the least and the most vulnerable people in our society. he's going after the poor.

joe biden says show me your budget, i'll tell you what your priorities are. i've always liked that. overall this republican pipe dream of a budget cuts $4.8 trillion over the next decade. that's a boat load of money. somebody's got to pay for that. corporations got to add more money, cut the defense? oh, no, there is an increase in defense spending. i'm all about protecting the country, but is this the way we want to do it? 68% of the cuts from people will be from low or moderate incomes. gosh, starting to get that pie a little smaller. ryan wants to cut $3.3 trillion from programs like medicaid and the snap program. the most vulnerable in our society. here are just a few of the proposed cuts that he wants to do. $2.7 trillion from medicaid and subsidies. why am i showing you this now? because if they really had control, this is where they're going. he wants to cut $137 billion in

cuts to food stamps. food stamps! people below the poverty line get food stamps. but that's where he wants to take the blood out of a rock. $125 billion cut from pell grants grants. if ryan gets in control, pell grants won't be in around. he cuts another $385 billion from the elderly and the school lunch programs. taking money away from the elderly and let's make sure the kids stay hungry in school. they better have parents that can provide all of that. and let's not forget that he wants to repeal obamacare and he has absolutely nothing on the table to replace it with. it is a disastrous road map for america. they will vote on it on thursday. and it's probably going to pass. paul ryan admits he splits americans up into two categories. the makers and the takers. ryan's budget the basically punishes the so-called takers.

when i was in lore raain, ohio, man didn't appreciate being called a taker. >> some politicians, one in particular, paul ryan, that would call a guy like you a taker. >> do you know what i've taken in my life? i've taken a lot of [ bleep ]. i've been pushed around at jobs, i've been the lower seniority person so the lower seniority people get the worst jobs. it's the way it works. but i've never taken anything that i didn't deserve. and if they say that i'm a taker for collecting unemployment because my job is not there at this moment for me to work, in the state of ohio, i have to put in two applications a week to try to find a job. i just had to -- i just paid money out of my pocket which my funds are already tight to rebuild my computer today so that i can pull my resume out so i can accepted my resume to

places. i'm not a taker. i just don't want to be taken advantage of. and that's pretty much how i feel about that. >> how, the story gets worse. not only does paul ryan want to cut food stamps and medicaid, he's against the minimum wage increase. ryan has no solution for poor people across the board, but he has a real deal, a real deal, for corporations. those are his buddies. by not raising the minimum wage, he's actually giving taxpayer dollar it is to corporations like walmart. how does this happen? pay attention to this next video. slate.com put together what i think is a great video portraying just how everyone in america is picking up walmart's tab. >> this is a box of mac and cheese. this is walmart. and these are your tax dollars. we're going to show you how much that mac and cheese might cost if walmart paid its workers

enough that no one was eligible for food stamps. the average person living near the poverty line can receive around $130 a month in food stamps. say you're a single mom with one child and you work for walmart, you'd be eligible for food samples if you make less than $20,449 a year. walmart says the average wage for hourly store associates is $11.83 an hour. industrial analyst research puts the average cashier at about $8.81 an hour. based on data from one state, ohio, as many as 15% of walmart employees use food stamps. that is about 40 employ qulees per store who earn so little they qualify for food stamps. last year the u.s. distributed $76 billion in food stamps. walmart says it takes in 18% of all those food stamp dollars. that's about $13 billion a year. if ohio is representative, walmart employees receive somewhere around $300 million a year in food stamp benefit, ultimately spending those

dollars at food stores like walmart. so let's say that single mom who cashiers also shops there, she earns food stamps from the government and turns around and spends them at walmart. so what would it take to push someone up like the single mom where she no longer qualified for food stamps? walmart would have to raise her wage to just above $13.63 an hour. doing this for awful its employees would cost the company $4.8 billion each year.its employees would cost the company $4.8 billion each year. walmart would have to raise their prices by about 1.4%. that means that box of great value mac and cheese would jump one penny per box to save u.s. taxpayers $300 million each year. >> no commentary there. all numbers. walmart, we want you to respond to that. slate.com, great work. but what it comes down to is low wage and no help.

that is ryan's budget. he wants to provide big tax breaks to corporations. and if republicans had their way, they would keep wages low and cut food stamps for workers. they would provide big tax breaks to corporations like walmart and not require them to pay their workers a liveable wage. and we certainly don't want to tax the corporations any more. it's clear ryan's budget is a road map to attack the poor while lifting up the wealthy. if you want to stop the train wreck of a budget, all you have to do is get out and vote in november. maybe organize. maybe school up more on the issues. it helps. the ryan budget is very clear. it limits opportunity for low wage americans and favors the abuse of workers by the corporations. in the state of the union address, the president of the united states talked about social responsibility. he also talked about a corporate responsibility. walmart is the largest private

employer in the world. they made $18 billion, that was the published number. $18 billion if net profit last year. and a good number of their employees are being supported by you. so i'm going to give issue real good take from the rich, give to the poor. i don't know if walmart could make it on $17 billion a year net profit, but i'd sure like to see them try. and i'd love to see their workers get a living wage so you and i don't have to pump money into social programs to constantly help people who work for corporations that could easily provide for them if they had a philosophy of actually paying people. not their workers, excuse me. they call them associates. does it sound fair to you? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. is walmart milking the system?

text a for yes, b for no, 67622. you can go to our blog. and another thing about the ryan budget that we have to understand. walmart being the big corporation and we're using them as an example because they have so many employees who are on public assistance, ryan wants to lower the corporate tax rate down to 25%. gosh, the last election the guy that was running for the republicans paid i think 16% with all the writeoffs. if we lower the corporate tax down to 25%, where would they really be on the scale when it comes to all the tax incentives that are out there and where would they park their money offshore so they wouldn't have to pay anything? we got a lot of problems in this country and a lot of it starts with people who aren't paying their fair share. for more, let me bring in david k. johnson and robert greenwalt.

gentlemen, great to have both of you you with us. david, you first. if paul ryan got his way on everything, what type of life would a poor person lead in this country and what kind of opportunity would they have? >> hell on earth and remember, ryan also wants to increase military spending because we spend more than 40% of all the mill area spending in the world and he doesn't think that is enough. so clearly mr. ryan's view is that our fundamental problem is that the poor have too much and the rich don't have enough. and you at least should give him credit for being honest in his budget for what he's proposing. >> they will vote for this on thursday. it will probably pass. it's as radical as we've seen, yet can't even get a vote on extended unemployment on the floor, complaint get a vote on the minimum wage, can't get a vote on the paycheck fairness act which we'll talk more about later. wi mr. greenwalt, is ryan's budget

catered to corporations like walmart? we're using walmart tonight. slate.com prepared the numbers. no commentary there. all numbers. but isn't this a blueprint for the way corporations -- the way he wants them to operate in this country? >> it's actually a blueprint and i'm sure it's been written by the corporations. what we're seeing, ed, we're seeing the worst manifestations of inequality. the president has talked about it. it's getting worse and here you have a lethal combination of inequality combined with money and politics, so politicians are being legally bought and sold to the bidding of these corporations. this is capitalism at its worst. >> do you think paul ryan knows the government is subsidizing walmart employees? is this his arena of fairness? >> it's hard to imagine that he isn't aware of that or all the other subsidies that we're

giving to boeing and alcoa and nike. it's hard to imagine you don't. after all, i've written a best selling book about it. but who knows t. this is a man who up recently was telling us we should pay attention to a russian philosophiier noefier novelist love is selfish. >> last guy said you can't raise taxes on the job creators. does walmart care the government is picking up the tab, do they even care or are they milking the 's not that they don't care. they actively work so the government will pay so that the walton family can have even more money. and again, ed, that's where it comes together. this money in politics, the 1% income unequality and quite a

brutal stew that beats up the working people. >> isn't this budget really steroids or fuel on the fire for vulture chart, that this would separate income inequality far beyond what we have right now? >> this budget is inherently immoral. the founding fathers who were extremely concerned that a business aristocracy would ruin or democracy would be absolutely appalled. and you know what, if they just cut in half the amount they spend buying stock back, they could raise the workers' wages and get them out of having food stamps. >> and they're terribly against the employees organizing. mr. greenwalt, you have done some work on this about how they intimidate, how they move people out. and there have been some demonstrations around the country. and i think as this story gets out there and compare to the budget, there is no turning back with these folks, is there. >> no, there isn't.

but the good news is that our walmart folks which is organizing and helping people who work at walmart come together is increasingly active and they have actually had some victories recently around the pregnancy issue of women working at walmart, around scheduling. obviously there are bigger fights ahead and the key question is can we put pressure on them so that they will pay a fair wage to people who are working there. the average cashier is getting $8.81 an hour. while the walton family who did not work for this have inherited hundreds of millions of dollars. >> so as we move forward here, and this has really been out of the radar, really off, this was a campaign issue in 2008, the employee free choice act, if the employee free choice act had gotten the attention that the the democrats said it was going to give to it, and had they

passed it when they had the power, david k. johnson, what would this have done to the economy? >> oh, it would have improved the economy greatly. one of the fundamental problems we have is that workers have no bargaining you power, as individuals and when all these people are out of work. and this is being ruthlessly exploited by the walton family who are the wealthiest family in america. their whole fortune is well north of $100 billion. you've heard me say before, if you believe in market economics, you should believe in unions. just read the supreme court definition of market economics and you should believe in unions. >> robert greenwalt, do you think they will ever change their ways? since the demonstrations have been out in some of these city, have you seen them move on the wage chart at all? >> they have barely moved on the wage chart. but it's a fight that needs to be had as you said before. they're a huge employer. we have the waltons, we have the koch brothers.

these people are suppressing wages. they're hurting workers. and they are fundamentally attacking the values that our country is built on. >> so the key here is that paul ryan's budget doesn't expect the walmarts of the word ld to pay more, but he wants to cut what walmart employees have been accessing which is american tax dollars because they're living below the poverty line. you tell me, america, if that's fair. great to have you with us tonight. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us on twitter and facebook. lots more coming up. president obama has some harsh words for republicans when it comes to equal pay for women. we'll bring you the latest on the paycheck fairness act with r rosa deare laura. and the uconn huskies win and they aren't doing it quietly. one of their star players is speaking out about protecting college athletes and starving. gunderman group.

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>> uconn star player speaks out about player protections. >> sha baz nabazz napier has be tappota stand out. >> we do have hungry nights. >> college athletics generates massive amounts of money and players are being left behind. >> no question it's an idea. >> will this is about giving players a voice. >> the notion of using a union employee model to something that strikes most people as grossly inappropriate solution to the problems. >> some should change. >> joining me tonight, connecticut state representative matthew lesser. mr. lesser, good to have you with us tonight. this of course -- >> great to be with you. >> congratulations on your team winning by the way. >> thank you. >> this all stems from what has unfolded at northwestern's

football program, the national labor relations board says they will get a vote, it's being contested by the administration. bottom line, the players are saying they don't have a voice at the table. you heard the tape. he was asked about it in the postgame locker room. $62 million, that is the athletic budget at uconn. what do you want to do about this, if anything? >> it's really obscene right now. the millions of dollars being made off these kids, even the ladders that they climb up to cut the nets off at the end of the game, even those are product placed. the amount of money that is being spent and yet we're hearing that the most outstanding basketball player in the united states of america goes to bed hungry at mighnight. so players are interested in collective bargaining. >> the ncaa has not addressed these issues that the players are talking about. it's not about making hundreds

of thousands of dollars. they want basic health care, they want some protections. they want their scholarship length and their academic achievements certainly recognized. and they need more help beyond their eligibility. why hasn't the ncaa done this? all they're doing is bashing union talk. >> well, i think you hit the nail on the head. this isn't a connect ticut problem. the basic issue is they're making money the way it is. they're able to exploit these kids, make millions between their tv revenues, their products, all of the jerseys that they're selling. and yet the kids get nothing. they don't even get enough food to not go to bed hungry. it's absurd. >> each state deals with labor differently. what do you want to do in connecticut? >> well, one of the things we're looking at is explicitly giving these athletes the right to collectively bargain. that's what they're asking for. i think that kdeserves

consideration. we don't have to wait for congress to act. >> what do you think napier's voice will do to this? at the pinnacle of success, at the very top of success, he's asked about what it's like to be a college player and what he thinks of this collective bargaining and he said, well, scholarships don't cover everything. what is everything in your opinion? >> well, everything i think at the minimum includes food. i think that should be an easy thing to say. but he's going off to the m the chlt a, he'll be making millions. he's looking out for all the other guys who may not make it to the nba. and who are really being exploited right now. he has the guts to speak truth to power and i have to give him credit. he's an amazing guy. >> president of the ncaa said unionization is a grossly inappropriate solution to the problem. what is your reaction to that seeing that -- and there was also a comment saying if they

really wanted to address this, they would get all the major five conferences together and have the commissioners deal with this and the athletic directors which i think is an admission of guilt because they're saying they do have problems that they need to solve. but the bottom line is this goes on year after rear after year and nobody addresses it. >> well, i'm all ears. if he says it's not the solution, i want him to come out and give us real solutions. i think the point of this is to put pressure on the ncaa to do what is right by their players. right now they're not doing it. if union isn't the best answer, and that's what the players say they watch th want, but if there is a better answer, it's up to them to put it on the table. >> representative lesser, do you believe the players that were on the court last night for uconn, they're employees of the university? >> they're all getting athletic scholarships. the question is, is scholarship pay or is it not. think it is. the amount of money that we're spending on our program, this is

a rev new generating machine. it's a corporation. and i think they are employees. but we'll see how the process plays out. and i also would say our women are up in the championship in a few hours and i think they are, as well. >> well, one other thing that i think slipped by the media in the interview that napier gave was that he said, you know, he looks and sees his name on the back of jerseys. the university is telling his name. he doesn't get any of that, okay? now, if he goes to the nba, obviously there will be an opportunity to make some dollars there. i'm not quite sure i understand what the difference is between the money that is generated there what he's doing in college and the money that he'll be generating on the professional circuit if he's good now get there. the athletic -- >> there is no difference. >> there is no difference. and i appreciate you saying that. representative lesser, i appreciate it so much tonight. and also $62 million.

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this isn't just about treating women fairly. this is about republicans seemingly opposing any efforts to even the playing field for working families. i don't know why you would resist the idea that women should be paid the same as men. and then deny that that's not always happening ut there. if republicans in congress want to prove me wrong, if they want to show that they in fact do care about women being paid the same as men, then show me. they can start tomorrow. they can join us in this the 21th century and vote yes. >> the president with strong words for republicans on equal

pay day. if you really care about women, put your money where your mouth is what he's saying. the challenge came early today before the president signed two executive orders aimed at strengthening existing equal pay laws. one an executive order prohibiting federal contractors from retaliating against employees who decide to talk about their compensation in the workplace. the other was a presidential memorandum instructing the secretary of labor to establish new regulations requiring federal contractors to submit data on employee compensation by sex and race. well, only the senate is set to consider the paycheck fairness act. so we'll see if the republicans take the president up on his challenge. but it's not expected to pass. a similar measure failed on a 52-47 vote back in 2012. it makes accepts. last tuesday, the only republican at the senate hearing on the paycheck fairness act wanted to know more about its impact on men. >> take me through exactly what would have to happen with a

specific example of a man and a woman and let's take an example of where the man is being paid less than the woman in this case because this law is not just about women. it's about men and women. >> joining me now, connecticut congressional member rosa delauro and lisa mass. great to have both of you with us. it seems that lamar alexander hasn't gotten the memo about what this is all about. the numbers are staggering here, aren't they? what is he concerned about? >> i don't know what he's concerned about. but certainly there is a very simple principle here which is that men and women in the same job should get the same pay. no one is suggesting that if a man is in the same profession as

a woman and he's paid less there needs to be a reason toeeason w happened. but what has happened historically is that women are short changed. that has been what the history has been about over the years. women today are paid 77 cents on the dollar and that is across all occupations. and all education levels. >> so what does today mean? how many employees is this really going to affect? >> today is historic because what the president did in really prohibiting federal contractors from retaliation if both men and women have conversations about their compensation, that is going to affect millions of people. the data shows that up to one quarter of the working people work with federal contractors. so it is a very critical, very

important what the president has done with both the memorandum and with the executive order is to provide women with the tools that they need to ensure and move forward on making sure they get the same pay for the same job that men have. >> and it's not happening in america. lisa, is this a political equalizer? the republicans are saying this is a nonissue. in fact they came out today and said the president is politicalizing women's issues in the workplace. tell me how this is going to affect and does it play everywhere. >> i think it does play everywhere and definitely plays with working women. it polls very highly. it's something that democrats and republicans and independents all care about. and quite frankly, it's not just a women's issue, it's a family issue. so at the end of the day, if you're really talking to the american people and you want to know what they need, i got a great economic stimulus for you and it's called equal pay.

>> paycheck fairness act. i understand you were in arkansas and moved senator pryor on this, is that correct? >> yes, we were very excited. we had our state convention in arkansas, joint convention with arkansas and oklahoma. and targeted mr. pryor who received us warmly and became a co-sponsor. so i think that's a smart move and i think it's a dumb move for the republicans to cede this so the democrats. this is just common sense. >> ed, let me -- >> are there any republicans in the house that are on board? >> not at the moment. but this is what i wanted to make reference to. what we passed under leader pelosi several years ago, we passed the paycheck fairness bill in the house twice. both times with bipartisan support. the first time 14 of our republican colleagues supported the effort. the eksecond time, 10. it wound up losing by two votes

in the senate on a prior time. and there were five republican women all we needed was two, but they didn't vote for it. but i reached out, sent the material and have not heard -- this has been bipartisan in the past as lisa pointed out. there isn't any reason why -- will is no partisan issue. >> today they claim that they're hearing fromstituents that they don't like being politicized. do you hear that? >> no. what women want more than anything else, they're looking for pay equality, an increase in minimum wamg, thge, they want t opportunity for education and scholarships because they want a better life for themselves and their families because for women, and we haven't spoken about this, the economic insecurity is a very big challenge. there is the highest percentage

today of women in poverty, it's at 17%. they have less pension protection. more reliant on social security. but less retirement security. they're more likely to be in a subprime mortgage. they are in serious economic difficulties. but underlying all of that is making 77 cents on that dollar and it is worse for women of color. what they want is to have a -- to be in the same job to be paid the same as their male count counterpa counterpart. very simple, ed. >> they view this as government intervention. and it's meddling this business. so i just think that this is -- why they would want to just give this to the democrats and independent voters i might add, i don't get what they're doing. congresswoman, lisa, thanks for joining us. still ahead, glenn beck's latest gift from god ruffles some feathers. next. lots more coming up.

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this is a story for the folks who take their shower after work. small town on the shores of lake michigan, halfway between milwaukee and chicago. just like any ore small town in america, it's the biggest industry in kenosha, wisconsin, with a population of just over 100,000 people and you know what it is? it's education. the conservative money machine is so bent on pushing their agenda, they jumped into a local school board election in kenosha. americans for prosperity, funded by the koch brothers worked with the bradley foundation to knock out two school board nominees. they're against a collective bargaining agreement between the school board and the teachers union. scott walker is an outspoken opponent of collective bargaining rights for most public employees. >> collective bargaining in the public sector is not a right. it's an expensive entitlement. >> right wing groups don't want the school board to bargain with the union on work hours,

benefits or any other issues beyond cost of living increases. they really want to take the voices of the union. now, when a court upheld the current union contract, anti-union groups shifted their focus to the school board race. in came americans for prosperity. the ed show reached out to afp for a comment on that, and they said, afp is not some outside group. our activists in wisconsin have been gauged in local and state issue since our branch opened up a decade ago. we have activists in the state passionate about advancing policies that improve the lives of every wisconsin resident. well, the conservative mission, i think, is very clear. they are chasing the for-profit and privatized model of education wherever they can. this is setting the table for more charter schools and a larger attack on democratic voting values in the state of wisconsin and, of course, the unions. their foot soldiers, their social networking, they think it will affect the next election.

the editor of the progressive magazine joins me tonight. ruth, good to have you with us. did this surprise wisconsinites that americans for prosperity got right down to the school board level to get it the way they wanted? >> absolutely, ed. we've never seen anything like it before. we've never seen big out of state money come into a little tiny school board race. even people who watch this for a living like common cause in a state which has a watched increase in spending at the congressional level, even the state legislative level. the school board level is a new frontier. these are candidates who spend almost no money, they're running, they're known to their neighbors. it's small town politics, and to see a huge force like this come in, and i know americans for prosperity has a statewide wisconsin chapter, but that's very different from getting involved in this very local race. this was about their big ideological goals. this was not about having a stake in what happens in the kenosha area schools. >> they say they've been in the state for a decade.

they have 100,000 foot soldiers out there and believers is that true? >> sure. well, they've been in the state for a while because the koch brothers put a lot of money in. they're trying to get people to support vouchers, to take money out of public schools and put it into private schools. they're coordinating with other right wing groups like the bradley foundation, which you could see is a wisconsin foundation, but it's national in scope, and it pushes the idea that public schools are failing and needs to be privatized. these conservative groups have worked together and what they have said is the school board never should have agreed to a contract with the teachers that the teachers union itself should not be recognized and that the contract should be illegal, and when a judge disagreed, they went after these candidates individually. this is part of a big effort to make wisconsin a centerpiece of crushing public employee unions and suppressing wages. >> so it's a two for one. and also, of course, the support for walker to be able to deepen

his position in the state because he's in a heated race right now. how close is that going to be for the governor's chair in wisconsin? >> well, you know, the latest polls show that the race is a lot closer between walker and marry burke than it was at the outset. as people get to know mary burke, and as people look at the economy, it's getting to be a tighter race. >> great to have you with us tonight. appreciate you reporting on this. before we go tonight, a big thank you. when i opened up the show every night i have a guy chasing me around here in the studio. well, i tell you what, matt is a heck oof a guy. he and his wife anna have given birth to little ella jean. how about that. what a cute name. got to be a country song in there daddy's got a superman shirt on. he needs to be superman to carry

that big old camera around here. good evening, rev. good evening, and hello to ella jean for me. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead -- more evidence today the health care law is working for real americans. and many on the right who predicted failure just can't handle it. how low is it getting? this low. yes, that's adolf hitler in a new video attacking the health care law. a major gop donor is behind this. >> they can't i tack the laws on its merits so this is what it comes to? that's the fringe. but back on planet reality in wash