that big old camera around here. good evening, rev. good evening, and hello to ella jean for me. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead -- more evidence today the health care law is working for real americans. and many on the right who predicted failure just can't handle it. how low is it getting? this low. yes, that's adolf hitler in a new video attacking the health care law. a major gop donor is behind this. >> they can't i tack the laws on its merits so this is what it comes to? that's the fringe. but back on planet reality in washington, plenty of

republicans are still working to sabotage the law. this is the headline in the new conservative leaning wall street journal today. off the obamacare deep end. the editorial slams republicans who refuse to help make the law work better. they could have been talking about the house gop holding yet another hearing today. blasting fixes made to the law or one of the gop leaders saying this today. >> we do not believe that obama care can work, and we don't feel that it is properly achieving the goals that the president promised this country it would. and we are about proposing real health care reform that will be patient-centered, and a plan that we will put forward this year. >> yep, four years later, and we're still waiting on that plan. but while we wait, the president

reminded us today what the health care law is doing. >> more than 7 million americans have signed up for health care coverage under the affordable care act. [ applause ] that's a good thing, too. >> 7 million people signed up under the health care exchanges. how can anyone be against that? and today, a new study finds even more americans are now insured. a total of 9.3 million, 9.3 million people have gained health insurance since september. yet we're seeing hitler parody videos from donors and a party still wasting time and money on repealing a law helping millions. i think "the wall street journal" may be on to something. they really are off the obamacare deep end. joining me now is congressman jim mcdermott and the daily beast with cheryl o'connell. thanks for joining me.

congressman, a hitler parody? i mean, why are so many still slamming a law that's working? >> well, you've nailed it. they don't know what to do so they're getting wilder and wilder in their accusations. they're trying to make it seems as though there's criminality in the way that the irs has been handling this whole issue. they're trying to show that people are simply not following the law. i that ear making all kinds of legal arguments now. and they're going to try to get it all tied up in the courts. you watch. with the next few days, you'll see this whole thing. we had a hearing today in which they were trying to get the man from treasury to say that he had done something wrong, and he hasn't done anything wrong.

>> change to the health care law last weekend. others went crazy. the journal says, quote, in a rabble world, beating white house industrial policy and allowing more consumer choice would qualify as a modest conservative victory. but some (s have convinced themselves that the only tolerance change to obama care is to make it worse. i mean, is that true? they only can think about sabotage, michelle? >> well, this is the corner they've painted themselves into. they've been elected on a promise of repeal. they've banged this repeal drum to the point that anything short of repeal is seen as selling out. it's not seen as trying to improve a flawed law or address what everybody agrees are certain issues that need to be addressed. the only thing that will be considered a victory is if they do away with it. >> you know, congressman, you

were at the hearing today. >> yes. >> where republicans blasted fixes made to the health care law. i want to play some of that. >> why does big business receive better treatment than normal americans? >> why did you do some of these delays? many of the changes made to the health care law have been made without congressional approval. >> is the problem the affordable care act that need to be changed to make this workable? >> i mean, what is all this about? >> welsh what happened was when you implement a law, the treasury puts out a proposed rule how to implement it and then asks for responses from business. they did it for over a year anticipate they cooked the ideas of business and ultimately, they delayed the implementation for a year. now, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. if they had slammed it in and not given business a chance,

people would have screamed. and now these guys are yelling fwhaz listened to bez and gave them some more time. and they're accusing them of not following the law. it's just browrong. >> republicans keep talking about replacing the law, but when gop aid told "talking points memo" as far as repeal and replace goes, the problem with replace is that if you really want people to have these new benefits, it looks a hell of a lot like the affordable care act. i mean, are republicans backed into a corner here, michelle? >> absolutely. it's one thing to talk about repealing it. but they have not put forth any alternatives that are going to be able to keep the parts of the law that people like, not the pre-existing condition, keeping children on your policy until age 26 without keeping some of the policy points that they don't like. like the individual mandate. so they know once they start down the road about talking about what specifics they will

and will not include, then their plan would be open to just as much, you know, criticism as what they're complaining about with obama care. health care reform is pretty much complicated and it takes pretty much an act of god to get it through. it's not an easy question of repeal and replace. >> you know, congressman, this is a political year, midterm election. and as michelle said, when you ask the average votener this country on specific things that the affordable care act gives them, they're all for it. they've just been browbeaten in my judgment against the term, affordable care act and obamacare. but when you get down to the midterm elections, they're going to hear from people that benefitted. people like this. let me play you a few people. >> matthew blalock found his calling in the culinary field. he also found that the jobs

don't always come with health insurance. but now he's covered after finding a plan through the affordable care act. >> my insurance is $253 a month, and i got a little over $100 in a discount from the government. >> it just means that i can go to the doctor on a regular basis, you know? >> the small business owner from york says a friend convinced her to call the hotline for a quote. now she's paying half the rate of her old insurance. >> i walked around for two days and almost chanted, i have affordable health care. >> now that's the political reality. that's where the rubber meets the road, congressman. how will the republicans justify taking away the health from those kinds of people? >> well, the more they try to do that, the more it becomes apparent they don't care about ordinary people. i could give you a list of stories as long as my arm like the wurn you just heard, and people are benefitting from it

and their neighbors are seeing it and their friends and their family and it's spreading across the country. and you're going to see by election time, people are going to be grateful to the democrats and to barack obama for putting it through and surviving an enormously expensive propaganda campaign to destroy it. >> but michelle, they plan according to some strategists on running against the democrats on obamacare. couldn't that backfire as we see more and more people publicly talking about the benefits? could it be they are told that they're not hearing that that might not be the strategy they want? >> well, look, they're all-in with this. there's not much they can do other than run against it at this point. but this is exactly why people like senator ted cruz were so eager to do something to stop this before people started signing up. because once people stopped hearing about kind of the scary abstract changes comesiing and

had people signing up and receiving these benefits, then it becomes much harder to demonize the law. and it becomes especially creasingly more popular as people understand the complications and the upsides to it. >> do you think, congressman, that this will be a political asset or a liability to your party this year? >> it's going to be an absolute asset for all of us. the fact is you voted for the affordable care act and you're delivering health insurance and security to people in your district is going to be a positive thing for everybody who did it and it's going to be a real drag, going to be a millstone around the neck of some of these people who have not done anything but say no, no, no i don't want to give you that. >> all right, i oom going to have to hold it there. congressman jim mcdermott and michelle cottle. thank you both for your time this evening. >> thanks, rev. coming up, president obama takes action on fairness for women in the work place.

is the gop really against equal pay for equal work? and a gop congressman tries to go after attorney general holder and it doesn't go well for him. >> i realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight. >> you don't want to go there, okay? >> i don't want to go there? >> no. >> and later tonight, i'll address some of the stories about the mob, the music industry and me. stay tuned.

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>> some commentators are saying the pay gap doesn't even exist. they say it's a myth. but it's not a myth, it's math. you can look at the paychecks. you can look at the stubs. it's basic math that adds up to real money. it makes a real difference for a lot of americans who are working hard to support their families. >> president obama today calling on congress to pass the paycheck fairness act. obama stepped towards equal pay for women. he also signed two executive orders beefing up equal pay laws for federal contractors. the president is trying to fix

an obvious economic injustice. the fact that women make far less than men do for the same job. this chart shows that whether you're a ceo, a cop, a teacher, or a nurse, if you're a woman, you're making less than a man. this is a national problem. but top republicans in congress don't see it that way. speaker boehner and senator mcconnell have repeatedly voted against fair pay laws for women. and the new gop talking point is that this whole thing is just a distraction. >> i would urge us to stop politicizing women and let's start focusing on those policies that are going to help women and everyone in this country have a better life. >> many ladies i know feel like they are being used as pawns and find it condescending that democrats are trying to use this issue as a political distraction. >> i don't know what's so

condescending about supporting equal pay for equal work, but republicans may learn that lesson the hard way when voters go to the polls in november. joining me now congresswoman donna edwards, democrat for maryland. she co-chairs the congressional women's caucus and chair of the democratic women's working group. thanks for being here, congresswom congresswoman. >> thank you, reverend. wow, shocking statements there from the republican kol colleagues. >> i've got to ask you. do you find it condescending to say women should get equal pay for equal work? >> they're talking about politicizing equal pay. we don't want to politicize it, we just want to pay women equal to what their male colleagues make in the same jobs, the same experience, working alongside them. and this is really an issue that's important to women and to families who are deprived of the income that women would normally be entitled to if they were paid

equally. >> the president says this isn't just about economics to him. he said it's personal. listen to this. >> i've got two daughters. and i expect them to be treated just like anybody's sons. and i think by my single mom working hard, going to school, trying to raise two kids, all at the same time, and i think about my grandmother trying to work her way up through her career. and then hitting the glass ceiling. i've seen how hard they've worked. and i've seen how they sucked it up. we have the power to do something about it for 9 next generation. and this is a good place to start. >> he says that we have the power. congre congresswoman, what will it take to make this happen? >> you know what, the reality is here in the house of representatives, it only is going to take about 20 republicans to join with every democrat who's signed on to the

pair check fairness act. it's being considered in the senate. so those senators who are standing in the way, a handful of republican senators could make the difference for equal pay for equal work for women. it doesn't take a lot. i think the voices of women all across this country, republicans and democrats have to be raised, because, you know, when you consider that today women earning 77 cents on the dollar, you know what, we just started getting paid today for the work that we put in since the beginning of the year. for african-american women, 64 cents on the dollar. latinas, 54 cents on the dollar. that deprives us of thousands of dollars in real income today, but also thousands and thousands of dollars we could contribute to our own retirement security. this is a pocketbook issue. and as the president said, it's not a myth, it's just math. >> the right is really hammering home that pay equity is a myth. >> yeah, the equal pay for equal

myth. can we talk about things in reality not something baseded on a bunk study? >> now they think you're anti-women if you criticize the meme about equal pay. >> a piece of legislation that we already have laws to protect is nonsense. >> this equal pay for women thing which is old hat and not even applicable anymore. >> well, what's your reaction? >> well, those guys are and women are really living in the mad men era. the fact to s that women are paid less on the dollar to a man for the same job and the same experience and the same education. and it's wrong in 2014 for that to ha .. anticipate you know what, the women of america all across the boarding an overwhelming majority of women know it's truth, because they experience, like the president's mother and grandmother. we experience it and we know it.

this idea that somehow, you know, things are being made up is just not true. and ask anyone woman in virtually any sector of the economy and she will tell you that she is not being paid the same as a man for equal work. let's pass the act and make sure that women are equal to men and grow our economy. this is about growing our economy and our gdp, it's about growing or economy if we pay women equal for the same job, the same experience. >> the pay gap really adds up for women over time. over her career, a typical full-time working woman will lose $431,000. with that money, she could buy a house in the u.s., put two kids through college, new nearly 22,000 gallons of gas she could get.

and feed a family of four for over six years. congresswoman, equal pay is only one piece of the puzzle. you worked on an economic agenda for women with other house democrats. why is that so important? >> well, i am. an it's like the president has said, when women succeed, america succeeds. whether this that's a higher minimum wage, including a tip minimum wage and makinging sure we have access to quality affordable child care, making sure is that we get one day of paid leave off. these are basic guarantees that we should have in every single work place that would make a huge difference in women's economic lives. it would make a huge difference in the american economy. our women's economic agenda, when women succeed, america succeeds, is about growing all of our economy for every american, men and for women. >> congresswoman donna edwards, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you.

>> another attorney general slams a republican congressman for his contemptible behavior. we'll show you the tape. >> plus, why is the right so obsessed with malinking the president to one of the most evil men in history? it goes back to the beginning. we'll talk about it next. [ ambient street noise ]

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>> why would a government donor make an anti-obama parody video using adolf hitler. the billionaire behind it bills it as a humorous parody. but what exactly is funny about this? >> it's far from humorous, but

it's become a disturbing trend for some on the right. we previously saw comparisons in this administration to hitler and the nazis at far right rallies. one conservative investor recently likened critics of the rich to nazis. yet another gop donor compared the democratic agenda to what hitler was saying in germany. fox news contributor ben carson went so far as to say obatch ma officials were acting like gesta gestapo. and he's not the only one. >> adolf hitler, like barack obama, also ruled by dictate. >> progressives didn't care and so all of those jews died. but it was because the universities and the progressives, this was their thing. they were all anti-jewish, just as much as they're anti-jewish now. >> most of those people did not believe in what hitler was

doing. and if you believe the same thing can't happen again, you're very wrong. >> what we see with the irs can be compared accurately, historically to the early maneuvers of the people like jack booted thugs, like the brownshirts. >> let me be clear. this isn't the entire party, i know it's a select few, but it's becoming more of a trend. you can disagree with the president and you can disagree with the president's policies, but nothing compared to nazi germany. this is a vile accusation to make, and it's only hurting the progress we're trying to make in this country. thanks for coming on the show tonig tonight. richard, let me start with you. this video is just the late nest what's become a trend on the right. why do you think that is? >> so let's just put aside the line of humor and the obvious

pro-tesing distastefulness about this. one thing is like the nazis and that's the actual nazis. why are they going to these kinds of extreme? well, you know, foster is a strange man, he makes strange analogies. what you have here, people who believe because they are giving a lot of money, their opinions need something. and they're given a lot of respect because they can sign big checks. but just like sheldon adelson, you have people who are not political minds, they are not in tune with how normal good humored, well grounded people think. why are they doing this about this president? they cannot decide whether he's impotent or a dictator and it's driving them crazy. >> you know, here's another clip of that hitler obama care parody. i want you to listen to this.

>> now here's why it matters what foster friesz is doing. he donated $2.6 million in the 2012 election. and he wants very, very much to be involved in the 2014 elections, goldie. so this guy matters, especially with the new law. >> i think you're right about that reverend sharpton. but this is not new. caricatures of political figures including u.s. presidents has happened since the beginning of this democracy. but on the other hand, we are now at a different place. we're at a place where there are many more touch points, where many more people have a voice or a stake in this discourse. and sometimes to its good, to its betterment, and sometimes to its december rimt as in this case. you're finding people like foster friesz who are pouring money into campaigns like rick santorum. pouring money to expand their own platform, to expand their

own sense of importance. our supreme court said money is speech. well, foster friesz is taking that quite literally. he believes by giving more money in, his platform has expanded and he has a right to it. but there's something about this president, i think that richard wolffe said that makes them go furtherer. the line hasn't just been hopped across, it's been clearly erased. this stuff is more vile than it's ever been before. we've had it, but not quite to this extent. >> in all of these nazi comparisons, get to a larger trend from some on the right, that somehow this president is a dictator. listen to this. >> this is stalinism. this is sheer brazen lawyerlessness. >> and this is what tyrants are made of. this is w45 autocrhat autocrats of. >> i'm aphrase president obama

may have this king complex sort of developing. >> did you happen to see the size of those flags behind obama? those flags are getting bigger and bigger and bigger. every speech he makes. aec and you know, that's what dictators do. >> this is a clear trend and clear talking points that some are sharing on that ring of the right. >> they can't begin to understand how president obama got elected, not just once but twice. >> they have to delegitimatize him. it's not historically accurate. it's notling g linguistically ae to say he's a deck tai toictato. everything he's done has been ruled constitutional by a conservative supreme court, and secondly, elections legitimize a

president. contested elections, he's won by hefty margins. there are no grounds for imimpeachment, the idea that he's a dictator is ridiculous, but if you are conservative and you believe the government is coming in to take your guns away, this fits into a long theme of paranoia about pro-ingive presidents, and bill clinton suffered much of the same thing. >> but goldie, it's been more than a year since republican's autopsy on the 2012 election, and they won the party on messaging, we must change our tone. doesn't seem like everybody got the memo over there. >> they're in a bit oof a kwan dri he -- quandary here. the establishments ups they do need to change their tone, african-americans, how they reach out to the latino community, the lgbt community. certainly while they understand that messaging has to be dope, they've also got the more extreme of them, who is vested

daily in this sort of biggotted, anti-sm anti-semitic language. the establishment party really cannot say we don't want you. they can't disavow this kind of language because frankly they need to keep this party together come voting time. there's a bit of fear this extreme right wing is really holding the establishment of the party hoostage. all the moderates are. coming home because they can't deal in this environment. it's a toxic environment, it's not good for this democracy. it's destructive to this discourse. does it delegitimatize this president? i don't think so. i think the affordable care act will live on and become his legacy throughout our history. he'll billion known for it. it will be known that he made health care affordable for millions of americans. so that will stand. but what will not stand is this kind of language come election day. i think people are going to remember this. and most importantly, the people who are going to remember are

going to be independents, people who shy away from this kind of language. >> you covered the campaign, richard, of the 2012. you heard a lot of this, saw a lot of this up close. >> yeah. some of this dates back to the first obama campaign in the primaries. people have come up with all sorts of dark conspiracies about where he came from. as skillful a politician he is, even he can't be both a marxist and a nazi. at some point, it just becomes ridiculous. and it's such impolite company. that's the pro-b with these mega donors putting these kinds of things into the republican bloodstream. how do you get it out once it's in? >> goldie, it's taken its toll, though, because all of this talk is hurting the gop brand. just 25% of voters identify as republicans. that's an all-time low. >> well, certainly it's hurting this fwrand and it's hurting this republican congress, but what it's really going to hurt

is turnout this fall. it won't just be democrats looking to bring more voters to the polls. but the republicans are going to have a hard time bringing people to the polls behind messages like this. >> thank you both for coming on the show tonight. coming .uh, a gop congressman attacks attorney general holder today. but wait until you see how he responded. plus republicans start their push for paul ryan's budget. will they tell the truth about what it does to the safety net? and later, my comments on the mob, the music industry, and me, stay tuned. honestly? i wanted a smartphone that shoots great video. so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video, three times zoom, and a twenty-megapixel sensor. it's got the brightest display, so i can see what i'm shooting -- even outdoors, and 4 mics that capture incredible sound. plus, it has apps like vine -- and free cloud storage.

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>> for years, republicans have thrown everything they've got at attorney general holder. they've insulted him, vilified him, even held him in contempt. for the right wing, attorney general holder has become a favorite target, second only to president obama. >> you either lied or you were grossly incompetent in your actions. >> further, mr. attorney general, you're well known in this town for not reading memos. >> how many more border patrol agents would have had to die as a part of operation fast and furious for you to take responsibility? >> do you think he's smart? holder? >> i have not been impressed with his intelligence, no.

>> he doesn't read memos, he's not smart. these kinds of personal insults have no place in the halls of congress. but today when the attorney general testified at a house hearing, republicans did it again, and the attorney general didn't let congressman louis gomert get away with it. >> i read you what your department promised, and it is inadequa inadequate. and i realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight. >> you don't want to go there, buddy. you don't want to go there, okay? >> i don't want to go there. >> no. >> about the contempt. >> you should not assume that that is not a big deal to me. i think that it was inappropriate. i think it was unjust, but never think that was not a big deal to me. don't ever think that. >> in american history, congress

had never held the head of the justice department in contempt. of course, the gop's reckless action was a big deal, but the bigger deal is the endless republican search for a scandal, any scandal that can damage this attorney general and this president. joaning me now is susan milligan and joe madison. thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you very much. >> what do you make of these -- the tone, the gop lawmakers use towards the attorney general. >> well, the same thing that they used with the president, elijah cummings. it goes back to something i say every day on my show. in america, we're culturally conditioned to believe that you can undervalue, underestimate and marginalize someone like eric holder. the reality is that you can't. and what you saw in eric holder is the same thing that you saw with congressman elijah cummings. people aren't going to take it anymore. they're not going to be told

what they think, and it's, you know, in some private, polite company, we refer to it as righteous indignation. bottom line is, i'm so proud of eric holder in the way that he responded, and i think he put the congressman in his place. >> now, you know, susan, you've been around and have watched the congress and reported on the congress for a while. have you ever seen the tone and language like you've seen under attorney general holder? >> i actually think there's an animous that exists between the attorney general and some of the republicans in congress. it's much deeper than between the president and the republican congress. and i'm not entirely sure where it comes from, but it's actually very, very personal. i thought that, you know, gomert was going to challenge him to a duel. they have such a fundamental disagreement on the use of firearms i'm not sure they could even agree on that. it's very personal.

the language used is very, very personal. they have it out for him in particularly in a way that they don't even have it out for the president, i don't think. >> it wasn't just gomert. another republican suggested the attorney general should be in jail. listen to this. >> i don't think mr. holder should be here. he's in contempt of this body. i've called for his resignation. and i just don't think that it's appropriate that mr. holder be here. if an american citizen had not complied with one of the justice department subpoenas, they would be in jail, not sitting here in front testifying. >> i mean, this is outrageous. >> not only outrageous, but let's recognize, this is an election year. and what each of these individuals are doing, gomert, the last congressman we just saw, they're playing to their districts. that's exactly what they're doing.

and so this is their time to show out, show off. look, i'm putting this guy in his place. you know, and that's exactly all they're doing. look, tomorrow morning, we're not even going to know the names of these guys. this is election year sir fus political comedy, and the reality is that he is the attorney general. he's been one of the most effective attorney generals. most people know it, and they're just playing to their base back home. >> you know, when you look at you and i, susan, talking about joke, and you said that there's something that you think is even deeper than the dislike of the president, this attorney general has fought against voter suppression. do you think that some of what has them so animated?

'. >> yeah, i think they definitely don't like the agenda this particular attorney general has. but i think joe is right, a lot of this is just paying to the base. they go after eric holder, they go after lois lerner at the irs, kathleen sebelius. the role of the congress in performing oversight has really been corrupted because it has become so political and partisan. there's a lot of stuff that genuinely needs to be investigated and should be on a bipartisan basis, but just look at the names of the hearings, the overright hearings and they already seem to have come to a conclusion before they even listen to the witnesses. that's a dangerous thing. congress has a very powerful tool in oversight and they're not using it properly. >> corrupt the term corrupted is a heavy term, but the conclusion, she said they've

come to a conclusion, the conclusion is impeachment watch this. >> do you want to start the rattles of impeachment on eric holder? >> it's not someone saying hey, will it's impeach holder. they're coming from constituents all across the country. >> your department blocks states to attempt in combatting voter fraud. you leave me no alternative but to join those who call on you to resign from office. >> resign for protecting people to vote? >> how much do we have to watch slide after slide after slide, showing in all these states it's 00000-point whatever. they don't want -- look, this is the new jim crow. let's just call it what it is.

it's the new jim crow. it's not the old hood. it's james crow esquire in a pinstriped suit. it is what it is. and if they want -- and they'll i peach just to be able to say we impeached, knowing full well that the senate is not going to convict. they know that. let's play it back home, throw red meat at our people, bottom line, we've got to get reelectriced and that's what it is. but eric holder has done what any decent attorney general would do. you do not suppress the vote in the united states. >> you have to give him credit. he's not blinked, he's not backed up one bit on voter suppression. >> thank you both for your time tonight. still ahead, the music industry, the mob and me. a story from 31 years ago that i'll revisit tonight.

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he was a matted messiley in a small cage. ng day. so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, you can find it all on angie's list. we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed at angie's list. join today at angieslist.com >> finally tonight, the mob, the music industry and me. i was blessed to know entertainer james brown. he was like a frather to me. through him, i got involved in the music industry. that was in the 1970s. came to understand that even though. african-american artists were successful, when it comes to concert promoters, african-americans was pretty much shut out. working toward trying to aid the

michael jackson tourp in 1984, we demanded black promoters be involved in promoting their tour. soon after that, my life was threatened by people who claimed to be mobsters. the guys who called themselves sal actually flew to new york from l.a. and said if i didn't stop interfering, they would kill me. i contacted the fbi, even though i had recent run-ins with them in a separate boxing investigation. my call led to my cooperating with the fbi against those mob guys. or who they say they were. that's the story and it's not a new story. i wrote about it in my book "go and tell pharaoh" back in 1996. and it's been reported in the press before. i did the right thing, working with the authorities. i didn't consider myself, quote, an informant. wasn't told i was that. i was an american citizen with

every right to call law enforcement. and that's the lesson i want to emphasize tonight. forget me, i'll fight my battles. but i want to emphasize especially in my own community where the insidious campaign not to cooperate police has taken hold among too many young people. many of us are pushing back hard against this no-snitch campaign. we can't keep feeling like there's something wrong. i've certainly had my difference with police and still question them. that's an important message and one that i will continue to bring no matter what they say to communities across the country from crown heights to chicago. thanks for watchin inin ingwatc.

i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the hawks go to war. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews up in new york. let me start tonight with this roaring battle between chick dick cheney and rand paul. the stakes couldn't be fatter. was it right to fight the iraq war? was it good for the united states and mankind to ignite a war in the middle east that cost the lives of 186,000 people, that rid aran of its number one rival, that basically turned iraq into an iranian client? was this good for us our our friend is?