pennsylvania high school that sent as many as 20 people to the hospital with stab wounds. >> guns aren't the only things we have to fear. knives are there also. in many ways, race has always divided our political parties. no doubt we're a vastly different country than we were 50 years ago. but the reality is, there is still so much more to go. >> prosecutors are getting their first chance to question the olympic sprinter on this, his third day on the witness stand. >> you killed her. you shot and killed her. >> i did, my lady. >> say yes, i killed -- i shot and killed reeva steenkamp. >> the standoff in eastern ukraine continues. the diplomatic war of words escalated. >> no one should be fooled. believe me, no one is fooled. russian special forces and agents have been the catalysts behind the chaos in the last 24 hours.

welcome back to "ronan farrow daily." we begin with breaking news out of pennsylvania. an attack inside franklin regional high school, 20 miles outside of pittsburgh, sent at least 19 students and one security guard to the hospital this morning. doctors say some of the teens have suffered life-threatening injuries. their wounds have been described as, quote, severe and penetrating. >> they seem to actually almost have a pattern. most of them to the right lower abdomen and the right flank. >> i'm an obstetrician, gynecologist. a number of these patients, their moms are our patients, these are kids we likely delivered. one thing about being a doctor that lives in the community that you serve, you can become emotional, because these are your friends and neighbors. i was proud of the response. >> fortunately, at least six of those patients have been discharged. the suspect, a 16-year-old high

school student, is also being medically treated. police say that his injuries are primarily to his hands. they also say it was school officials that helped stop the rampage. >> how was he taken into custody? >> again, the school principal had interaction, as well as the school resource officer who happened cuffed him and he was secured. >> joining me right now from the ground is nbc's scott newell. scott, thank you very much. when do you think the school will reopen? >> reporter: well, they're telling us that the school is on lockdown right now, and it should reopen no earlier than two days from now. this is a huge investigation scene, as you can imagine. they've got a lot of things to go over. they're talking to some of the students involved in this. as you mentioned, this whole thing started about 7:13 this morning. that student, that 16-year-old sophomore went through the hallway flashing two knives, and after it was all over, 19 students hurt, one school

security guard. we understand that right now, that the latest figures we have are two in critical condition, several of them have been operated on. the critical have been taken to forbes hospital. we understand from doctors they expect everyone who was stabbed to pull through. so that is good news there. the suspect is in an undisclosed location right now with wounds to his hand, as you mentioned. and one of the things that is interesting, first of all, they don't have a motive yet. school officials are -- and police are also trying to figure out some reports of a phone call, a threatening phone call between the suspect and another student. we don't know which direction that call went, from one to the other. but they say they are checking that out right now. and one of the things i wanted to tell you was that during this whole thing, when somebody saw the stabbings going on, they pulled the fire alarm. although that created a lot of chaos in the students, it allowed many students to get outside, and they say that may

have saved some lives. >> we're hearing all of the patients are now in stable condition. we'll keep you updated on their status. right now, are you hearing anything about the motivations for this attack? you mentioned a phone call. is that something that might have precipitated this? >> police are checking that out. i wish i could tell you more about that. we've been asking about it, but so far we don't know. i can tell you that several parents have been talking to reporters, and saying that they've heard from their students, their daughters, their sons, they texted them, phoned them throughout this whole ordeal to tell them they were okay. unfortunately, 19 of those students were not okay, they were taken to the hospitals. they could get ahold of family members so they could visit them in the hospital. but many are out of the hospital right now and things are moving forward. >> it seems they will all survive as of now. thank you scott newell, appreciate you being there for us. we'll stay with the story all

hour, with the latest information from pennsylvania. also, in just a few hours, some news about another era of violence and injustice. president clinton is going to deliver a major speech at a summit marking a moment that transformed the united states. that is the 50th anniversary of the civil rights act. sources familiar with president clinton's remarks tell "ronan farrow daily" exclusively that this speech will focus on the importance of compromise to overcome political disagreements, and lady bird johnson once said, quote, the clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. clinton is one of four presidents to address this summit. president obama speaks tomorrow. the summit comes at a time of fevered controversy about civil rights. today many states enacting voter i.d. requirements, voter role purges and restrictions on voting hours that disproportionately keep minorities away from the polls. the question some are posing at

this point, is it time for a new movement. and specifically, a new voting rights act. joining us right now is ambassador young who worked side by side with dr. king as a negotiator for campaigns in selma and birmingham that resulted in the voting rights act. ambassador young, thank you so much for being here. >> a pleasure to join you. >> thank you for that. in your op-ed today, you called the voting system, quote, broken. what specifically do you see as the biggest problem that needs to change? >> well, the biggest problem is that governments don't want everybody to vote. people are trying a variety of ways to limit the vote, when the one thing that our democracy requires is full participation. it's not just minorities. it's the senior citizens, it's people without transportation, it's the poor. and our democracy to be vibrant

and real, dealing with the issues that affect all our lives, needs to be open to everybody. of the top 150 nations in the world, we're about 1/38th in voter turnout. that's obscene. america's ideals of freedom require us to be number one. we could do that simply with the congress coming together and saying, let's have a new voting rights bill, or the president could simply issue an executive order saying that our social security cards need to have a picture on it. that would give us a photo i.d. for banking, for at the grocery store check cashing. you can't get in a hotel without a photo i.d. but it's difficult to come by. a social security card with your

photo i.d. on it would allow you to fly an airplane, for instance, or get on a plane. >> right. and that would allow everybody access to the polls. >> that would allow everybody access to the polls, yeah. >> you talk about how broken things are. it is also true that there are new pew numbers out today that shows access to the polls, some states got better from the 2012 elections. can you feel that contests the claims you're making that we're back sliding? >> no, i -- i think what those numbers indicate is that the president and young people are finding ways to use technology to deal with the obstructions. but us senior citizens who aren't that comfortable with technology need to vote, too. >> ambassador young, one thing

that you cry again and again in that op-ed that we're talking about is what you call the death of the courage of compromise. we also just heard that that may be a theme that comes up in president clinton's remarks. there was a great deal of bipartisan compromise to pass the bra. there is certainly an apparent lack of that, if you look at the hill today. who do you think the worst perpetrator of that lack of compromise is on the hill right now? >> well, i think right now, it's the time in which we live. i think that we -- when we did away with the seniority system, when we had this rapid turnover in congress, we have a pure democracy, which quite often represents chaos. there's almost nobody in any party that can mobilize a consensus, unlike the days of lyndon johnson in the senate and

mr. sam rayburn in the house. when sam said it needed to get done, it got done. we don't leave our leadership there long enough. now, i'm not taking a position -- well, i am taking -- i don't like term limits. the reason i don't like term limits is it maximizes the power of the staffs, and the staffs are the most uncontrollable, unelected force in our government. and they are the ones that are most subject to external influence of people with money. >> two very specific suggestions there, end term limits and social security cards with photos. interesting approach to this. ambassador young, as we part ways, i did want to ask you, you were so close to dr. king. what do you think he would say to barack obama? apparently he in his era was not

shy about pushing presidents. what do you think he would tell our president to do next? >> i think he would be very sympathetic to president obama. i think he would be very proud of him for pushing ahead on the health care legislation. i think he would be proud that he withdrew our troops from afghanistan, and iraq. and i think he would be encouraging that we realize that war does not answer problems, and that we're going to have to talk to our enemies, especially and including iran. >> all right. thank you so much, dr. young. >> we don't have to be enemies. >> i hope you'll come back on for a conversation about that. really appreciate your stand on this through all of your years. very inspiring. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> and remember, everyone, all week we're asking you to take a stand yourselves on equality. states are imposing a lot of those new limits on early voting and they disproportionately

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pittsburgh. pennsylvania governor tom corbett will visit franklin regional high school sometime today. the suspect is in custody. he has been identified as a 16-year-old sophomore at the school. joining me now is katy, radio's bill raycough, reporting from the school today. and is also an alum of this very school. bill, thank you so much for calling in. do we know -- >> thank you very much. >> do we know how school officials stopped this attack? >> we're hearing stories of heroism, not only school officials, but possibly students who got in the way of this young 16-year-old sophomore who was wielding the knife. but ultimately at the end of it, it was the school's principal, we're hearing, and a school police officer, murrysville police officer stationed at the school, who took this guy into custody. but not before 20 people were wounded, including one of the security guards. >> dramatic story. and something that enlisted the entire school in the

responsibility, going to others on how schools should respond to this in the future as the hour goes on. tell us about your own personal experience with this school. i know you went there for high school. what kind of a community is it? >> it's a very nice bedroom community of pittsburgh, about 18 miles east of the city. it was an area that i grew up in. and obviously, i graduated from franklin back in the '80s. i had left town, worked in other markets for a long time. but when i came back to pittsburgh, i loved it enough, and the schools were such that why wouldn't i want to raise my own kids in the same school district. in fact, i have a girl in the middle school, and a son in one of the elementary schools. a very quiet community, as big a bedroom community as it is, throughout xhcommunity function and a community where a lot of people know each other very well. >> are you hearing anything from contacts who teach at the school? >> yeah. you know, i have seen some notes from some folks who teach there,

and are glad to be out. and some of my colleagues in the business actually, i went to school with here, who are registering their shock at it as well. as a matter of fact, one of my classmates from the '80s, her nephew is one of those wounded today and is in surgery. so you never leave the ties. it was a wonderful place to attend school. it's still a wonderful place to attend. and so many people who care about their students, it's just one of those places that if you attend school there, like my kids do, you're pretty blessed to be there. >> all right. our thoughts are with all of those people that you just mentioned. and the community that you grew up in there. thank you so much. kdk's bill raycough. appreciate you joining us. again, we're hearing that the school principal at the school helped to bring the suspect into custody. to discuss all of that, and the culture of school violence, i'm joined by jim cavanaugh, retired

agent in charge. thank you so much, sir, for being here. as a former negotiator, what could this situation have been like for the school principal who had to talk down a violent suspect with apparently two knives? >> right. you know, it's vulgar criminality that meets incredible courage. that's what you saw today. this is -- a knife attack is a unique attack. it can be countered by, you know, distance. so when you saw the police chief say it was a good thing, it can also be countered by picking up a chair to keep the person away from you. it's a little different from a firearms attack. a table, a chair can separate you from the assailant. here we have a berserk 16-year-old, and we're going to find out, as the story unfolds, that there were probably some subtle signs. and where we fail, collectively, not anybody in particular, but where we fail collectively is we don't read the subtle signs.

as a negotiator you're always looking for the subtle signs that will tell you something is afoot behaviorally or mentally. they're always subtle. >> we do have photos of the suspect in custody, of course, the face blurred out, because that's a minor. that is this young suspect being taken in. please continue. and i do, i also want to ask you, since in your experience, you've looked at these kinds of attacks. for everyone at home envisioning what this would be like if they were there, if their child was there, what do you advise people do? if you're in the middle of this, what's the first step you take? >> the first thing you do in a knife attack like this is to get away. i think that's what the students did. they ran, the fire alarm was pulled, they ran away. so distance is safe -- it makes you safer in a knife attack. if you cast get away, you pick up a chair, a few of you pick up a table to separate you from the

assailant, so you have a better chance in a knife attack than a firearm, because it's a defense. so you can use objects, you can get away. you can get far enough away from the person and you can't be hurt. but where we fail on all of these things, i think, ronan, collectively, and where we need to change is, we fail by not leveraging the technology that can help us reduce the injuries. what i say is, even in ft. hood, the navy yard, you can take this school shooting, we need to get the school resource officer in quicker than we do. today it was maybe 15 minutes. but if we could get them there in six or seven minutes -- now, you have distance and it's a large facility and you have to run. but we have the technology that we don't use, we have the smartphones. >> we heard there was a lot of

texting and calling in and out of that school which helped to alert first responders. >> but it's too slow. what happens is, we've not leveraged it like we should. in other words, there should be a way, whether it's an app or a software that people in a facility, ft. hood, the school, can hit some buttons on their app, on their smartphone, and it can go right into the ear of the resource officer. man in the gym with a rifle, man in the gym with a rifle. the software should be able to not keep giving the officer the same report, but it could then give them the movement. >> we certainly come out of this experience with high hopes there will be these kinds of improvements. thank you. we just learned this moment that president obama has been briefed on this situation happening right now in pennsylvania. president obama will be in texas today. the briefing apparently happened while he's on the road. he's going to be there,

ironically enough, to offer solace for a second time to the grief-stricken ft. hood community where another attack transpired. he and first lady michelle obama will attend this afternoon's memorial service for the three victims of last week's deadly rampage. the last time he was at ft. hood was november 2009 to mourn the 13 killed in the first attack at that army post. >> every evening that the sun sets on a tranquil town, every dawn that a flag is unfurled, every moment that an american enjoys life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that is their legacy. >> talked about tranquil days, again, irony there as he heads into the fray on a day when another attack that is anything but tranquil has just transpired. that first time that you just heard him address the ft. hood community was the very first time in his original term that president obama played the role of comforter in chief, if you

will. it's something we've all needed him for again and again, since that day. and those at ft. hood will need him for today. joining us from ft. hood to give us an overview of what the president will be talking about is sarah. having seen the president in prior trips of this type, and knowing that he's going to be visiting for this memorial, is this all too familiar territory for the people of ft. hood? >> exactly, ronan. it is a terrible deja vu for this military community here, who has been through this not once, but twice now in five years. president obama and first lady michelle obama are currently meeting with families of the fallen, and the wounded, before they come here for the memorial service. they are offering words of comfort and condolence at this moment. he's scheduled to speak here around 2:30 central time, that's 3:30 eastern. also on the program are the chief of staff of the army and the secretary of the army. as you can see here behind me,

soldiers, their families and dignitaries already beginning to assemble here for what will be a very difficult memorial for this community. it has been just a week since ivan lopez allegedly went on his eight-minute shooting spree, firing at least 35 shots along a two-block crime scene. army investigators do now confirm that lopez was involved in an argument about him before the shooting. at least one of the dead and one of the wounded were also involved in the shooting. we ha good news today. 11 of the 16 wounded have been released from the hospital and are back on duty. the army, ronan, the army says their number one priority are those recovering soldiers. >> thank you so much for that, sarah. the priority there is the recovering soldiers. president obama will be speaking to them and the entire community there at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. we'll be carrying it live. >> thank you. >> here on msnbc during the cycle. in just a moment, a quick

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welcome back, everybody. in just moments, we're going to take you back to that school stabbing in pennsylvania. but first, we have a quick update on the hunt for malaysia air flight 370. australian officials announced one of their vessels picked up two more pings consistent with noises from a black box. now they need to narrow down the sound's origins, because the black boxes likely don't have much time left at all. even if they do find the boxes, they will face considerable challenges in reach them. the area where they are searching, the indian ocean, it reaches depths of 15,000 feet. that is 15,000. any idea what that looks like? for a little perspective, the

empire state building is 1,250 feet tall. a sperm whale at a maximum depth of 3,200 feet. the wreck of the "titanic" was found in depths of 12,500 feet. flight 370 could be down up to about 15,000. three miles. some big challenges there. just ahead, we'll go back to pennsylvania for the latest on that school stabbing. we're also going to take you inside the latest emotional day in the oscar pistorius trial. stay with us.

welcome back, everybody. we're continuing to follow the breaking news out of pennsylvania today, where police say a high school sophomore went on a stabbing and slashing rampage. a live news conference has just started at a local children's hospital.

we are going to dip into that. take a listen now. >> blood pressure and massive bleeding within his chest and abdomen. within minutes the trauma team had this patient in the operating room to manage injuries combined in his chest and abdomen. he had injuries to his liver, his diaphragm and major blood vessels between the chest and the abdomen. fortunately for this young man, the knife missed his heart, and his aorta. he's currently in our trauma intensive care unit, with ongoing resuscitation for his injuries, in critical condition, on life support. and he will require additional surgery in the next several days. >> what is his prognosis? >> he is in critical condition, but we're very hopeful he will make it through this. >> what's his name? >> i cannot provide that at this time. >> [ inaudible ]? >> he is 17 years old. i understand he was in the senior high school.

>> how are they handling this psychologically? how is their mood? >> i don't have direct information on that. we are providing support with social workers and other appropriate support to the teenagers at this time. >> the one you just described -- [ inaudible ]? >> he's the most seriously injured patient that i'm aware of in the upmc system. >> can you give us a little bit more information about what the next few days hold for him? >> the next several days will include ongoing treatment for bleeding, and treating blood clotting disorders that occur with major trauma in the intensive care unit, with transfusion of all the blood products that he needs. life support on a breathing machine, on a ventilator, and additional surgery in the next several days. >> is there room to be optimistic? >> yes, we're very optimistic he's going to get through this. he has a great team of people taking care of him right now. >> what can you say about how he

was treated before he got here? >> i really have to commend the pre-hospital people, and ems provides who brought this patient very quickly to a level one trauma center so he can get the life-saving treatment that he needed. >> is he conscious? will he be conscious? >> when he arrived he was speaking, but very unstable. and currently he's on a breathing machine and sedated. >> is there any evidence that students or staff at the school were able to do things to help these students? >> i don't have details about the pre-hospital management. >> can you tell us more about the nature of his injuries? multiple stab wounds? >> he had a single stab wound to the left side of his torso between his chest and his abdomen. apparently it was a large knife of some sort, because it caused a large injury to his abdominal wall, but also went through his liver, his diaphragm, and major blood vessels. >> surgery on multiple organs? >> correct. >> doctor, why will he require additional surgery?

>> he had what we call damage control surgery -- >> a live news conference from children's hospital in pennsylvania. we're going to continue to follow developments on that story. right now we know there is one patient in a critical condition after a major stabbing by what they described as a large blade that penetrated several organs. he is receiving treatment and is expected to undergo surgery. they're optimistic he'll make it. we'll bring you more on that as it develops. today we'll turn to another dramatic episode in the trial that has the world transfixed. of course, that is bladerunner oscar pistorius. on the stand for a second time, this time to face the prosecution. prosecutors demanded that pistorius admit that he killed reeva steenkamp. >> what was your mistake? >> my mistake is i took reeva's life. >> you killed her. you shot and killed her. you need to take responsibility

for that. >> i did, my lady. >> the prosecution also showed grask graphic photos to the court. they told pistorius to look and he refused. >> i've taken responsibility. but i will not look at a picture where i'm torment eed by what i saw and felt that night. >> emotional day. the prosecutor also had a disturbing and unexpected device for capturing the extent of the damage to reeva steenkamp's body. video of oscar pistorius shooting a watermelon. you can see him firing, and then see the incredible explosive damage to that watermelon. a vivid image for the court. nbc news correspondent mike taibbi has the latest. >> reporter: ronan, oscar pistorius showed up this morning to complete the unchallenged version of his story about why he shot and killed girlfriend

reeva steenkamp. his attorney asked, did you intend to kill reeva steenkamp? pistorius said, no, i didn't intend to kill her, or anyone else for that matter. then came the challenging part, the beginning of what's expected to be a withering cross-examination by prthe prosecutor. pistorius said i made a mistake, he hammered him for more than 40 seconds and said, no, you shot and killed her. say that you shot and killed her. finally pistorius agreed that that's what he had done. then he moved on to something that sounded curious in the beginning. he said, did you ever use the word or in the presence of someone who did use the word zombie stomper? a lot of people in the courtroom didn't know what that meant. they knew quickly, because the prosecutor played a video from sky news, a couple of pals on a shooting range, firing a shotgun and then pistols into a watermelon which exploded on impact from the bullet. then you can hear voices, one of

them pistorius', he conceded, saying it's softer than a brain, it's a zombie stopper. he demonstrated either he didn't remember or was not telling the truth on the stand. now escalated it from there. he said, isn't that what happened, referring to the explosion of the watermelon? isn't that what happened to reeva steenkamp's head? then he popped up a photograph of a death shot of reeva steenkamp. at that point, pistorius lost it again. he's done this three days in a row, and he said i don't have to look at a photograph. i was there. i saw it. and he began sobbing and court was adjourned at that point for about 20 minutes before he composed himself and came back in. the rest of the day the attorney picked apart small items, statements that pistorius made. small differences in what he said, a pattern of what is

expected to be an attempt by jerry nell to show that pistorius is unable to reconcile some things that he said before, with some things that he said in his own statement on the stand over the past three days. cross-examination has now begun. ronan? >> it certainly has begun. that was nbc's mike taibbi. the prosecutor you just heard about in the pistorius trial is a man named jerry nell. his nickname, pit bull. he once spent eight days straight grilling a witness on the stand. what is nell's strategy with pistorius? joining me for an answer to that, attorney tom mesereau representing a range of high-profile clients, including michael jackson. first up, how do you think this gambit of playing that watermelon footage for the court? obviously a devastating moment in that courtroom. >> well, the prosecutor's trying

to show there's a very different side of this defendant. we've's heard days of testimony where he's been crying, breaking down, vomiting, showing his extraordinary sensitivity to this. telling everyone he's been haunted by this, minute by minute, ever since it happened. the prosecutor is trying to show that before this shooting took place, this individual was arrogant, self-entitled, na narcissist narcissistic, selfish, free with his words, free with firing guns. a very egotistical individual who thought the rules didn't apply to him. to do that, he has to shift the tone quickly. that's why he went after him right away. he wanted to change the atmosphere in the courtroom, and start exposing mr. pistorius as a very different person than his own lawyer has tried to portray. i think this prosecutor varies his cross. sometimes he'll be aggressive, and sometimes he'll be a little slower and kinder. but the purpose is going to be

to wear pistorius down and get him to reveal exactly who he is, who this prosecutor believes is not as sympathetic as he would like others to think. >> he accomplished the mood change very readily today. but is it possible he went too far, showing those graphic photos to him over and over again, forcing him to say, i don't want to see it, playing the footage with the comment about softer than a brain, really forcing this man to break down again? does he risk making oscar pistorius seem more sympathetic? >> he would run that risk more with 12 jurors in america than i think he will with this particular judge. this judge has seen it all. it's a jury of one person. she has seen hundreds of criminal trials, probably a thousand witnesses testify. i don't think she'll overreact to pistorius' emotion and i don't think she'll overreact to this prosecutor's aggressive behavior. i don't think emotion is going to drive her as much as it might some other individuals on a jury. >> all right.

thank you so much, tom mesereau. interesting assessment today. we may call on you again on that. >> thanks for having me, ronan. up next, an update on that agonizing school stabbing in pennsylvania. and a political insider's take on the high-profile fight over ukraine. stay with us. se asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today.

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congressman mike turner of the house armed services committee told "the daily beast," quote, it's clear we're not giving ukrainians critical military advice about the russian capability on their border and the best utilization of the ukraine military. thank you so much, congressman. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> off the bat. do we in fact have intelligence about russian troop movements, and would it help ukrainians that we're not sharing? >> we certainly have intelligence about russian troop movements, and that intelligence is very alarming. russia has everything it needs to move into ukraine on a moment's notice. i do think that we ought to provide stronger cooperation to ukraine, and i've urged our administration to do exactly that. there are concerns, obviously, that ukraine in many respects of its government, and elsewhere in

the country, is penetrated by russian intelligence agencies. so we have to be careful what we share that doesn't disclose sources and methods of our intelligence gathering. even with those limitations, i think there's a lot we can do to help ukraine prepare, to help ukraine know what it is up against and how to maximize its limited resources in the event of a conflict. >> and just to press on that question then, do you in fact think we're doing enough on that front right now? could we be sharing more? should we be sharing more? >> i don't think we're doing enough. i think we should be sharing more. i think there is more we could do to help ukraine prepare, that doesn't put at risk any of our intelligence gathering methods, or the degree to which we can track russian military movements. i think there's a lot more we can do, and a lot more we should do. >> thank you, congressman. there was a heated exchange yesterd yesterday. do you believe that the sanctions we have in place, which senator mccain was being

so critical of, aren't doing enough? let's take a listen first. >> on the issue of ukraine, my hero, teddy roosevelt, to say, talk softly but carry a big stick. what you're doing is talking strongly and carrying a very small stick. in fact, a twig. >> your friend teddy roosevelt also said, that the credit belongs to the people who are in the arena trying to get things done and we're trying to get something done. that's a teddy roosevelt and i abide by it. >> so again, do you think those current sanctions are doing enough or is senator mccain right here? >> well, i do think we need stronger sanctions. the biggest challenge, though, is not getting the u.s. to move forward with bigger sanctions. i think there's a great willingness to do that here. the challenge is getting europe to move forward with stronger sanctions and implementation of the sanctions we have. i would add to that we need to have europe organized now and ready to embrace sector-wide

sanctions on russia if russia moves further into ukraine. but that's a challenge. europe has a lot more at stake economically than we do, yet this is in europe's backyard and i do think we're at greater risk if we don't show a strong hand in terms of sanctions of inviting further russian aggression than risking provocation. i do favor stronger action to implement the sanctions we have, stronger action on europe's part in particular, but also united front and a sector wide sanction ready to go for their armed sector, energy sector, their banking sector, if russia further invades ukraine. i really think that kind of response will be necessary but it's important to get that lined up now. >> and it is very important to note as you say there is always a risk here as we penalize russia more and more that we could provoke more of a response from them.

we're going to be back shortly with more on that school stabbing. stay with us. my dad has aor afib.brillation, he has the most common kind... ...it's not caused by a heart valve problem. dad, it says your afib puts you at 5 times greater risk of a stroke. that's why i take my warfarin every day. but it looks like maybe we should ask your doctor about pradaxa. in a clinical trial, pradaxa® (dabigatran etexilate mesylate)... ...was proven superior to warfarin at reducing the risk of stroke. and unlike warfarin, with no regular blood tests or dietary restrictions. hey thanks for calling my doctor. sure. pradaxa is not for people with artificial heart valves. don't stop taking pradaxa without talking to your doctor. stopping increases your risk of stroke. ask your doctor if you need to stop pradaxa before surgery or a medical or dental procedure. pradaxa can cause serious, sometimes fatal, bleeding.

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welcome back, everybody. we are continuing to follow breaking news right now. a stabbing rampage at a high school in pennsylvania. as we wrap up this hour, here's what we know so far. 19 student s and a school security officer were injured. a 16-year-old suspect, a sophomore at that school, you see him there, is in custody. pennsylvania governor tom corbett is going to visit that school some time later today. we also know that president obama has been briefed on the situation. we are going to be continuing to follow this breaking story throughout msnbc. joy reid on "the reid report" picks up that coverage on the other side of a quick break. stay with us. 6 then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old.

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. hello, everyone. i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." we start with developments out of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. 19 students and one security guard were injured, some critically, this morning after police say a knife wielding 16-year-old sophomore started stabbing students in classrooms and in the hallway. it started around 7:15 this morning. just before the start of classes at franklin regional senior high school in murrysville. about a half hour east of pittsburgh. we're just learning the president has been briefed on the situation in pennsylvania and governor tom corbett will visit the school later today. a short time ago, we heard from

the school's superintendent. >> today, our school community experienced a terrible tragedy. the actions and response of our staff, students, and local law enforcement officers saved many lives. >> officials say an armed police officer and a school security guard as well as an assistant principal tackled the suspect who was arrested and taken into custody. joining me now on the phone rinada a reporter for "the pittsburgh tribune review." what do we know about the alleged attacker? >> we have been told by police that he is a 16-year-old male sophomore. they have not released the name as of yet. they have not released a motive as of yet. but he is at the murrysville police department being questioned right now. >> so, obviously, the school is a crime scene as it were. what are the thoughts on what's going to happen with all of those students? are they going to be able to return to school tomorrow or is