i'm tamron hall and this is "news nation." developing now in the last hour we heard from one of the victims in the mass stabbing in pennsylvania yesterday speaking from a hospital where he's being treated for stab wounds, high school student brett hurt described walking with a friend down a hallway when the attack started. >> she was screaming, and i was just standing there and everything just went -- like, i didn't even know what was going on. i was just so surprised. i could barely moved. i was stabbed in the back. what was going through my mind? will i survive or will i die? >> that young man's mom was emotional at the thought of nearly losing her son yesterday while at school. >> when my daughter called me at work yesterday freaking out and told me that my son was on the

list of victims i dropped. i don't think any parent in the world would ever want to go through that kind of agony. >> what emotional words and three students remain in critical condition including a student at another hospital who is in extremely critical condition and today there are mounting questions about what could from triggered a seemingly, quote, normal 16-year-old high school sophomore to carry out this attack, slashing fellow students with two knives as he moved through the halls of his school in suburban pittsburgh. alex hribal is being charged as an adult and faces four counts of attempted homicide and 24 count of aggravated assault. hribal had a blank expression on his face as he carried out the attack and said he, quote, wanted to die after he was tackled by an assistant principal. >> there are conflicting accounts about his life at school. some students describe him as a

quiet, but smart teenager. other students say hribal was bullied and investigators are looking into reports of threatening phone calls the night before the stabbing. hribal's family attorney says that his client is scared and confused and will have him checked out by a psychiatrist to determine whether he's mentally fit to stand trial. >> this is a nice young man. he's never been in trouble. he's not a loner. he works well with other kids at school. >> nbc's ron allen is in pennsylvania with the latest. ron, i realize that it's only been 24 hours and the priority with getting assistance to those victims. as i mentioned, one child, one student is in critical condition with the worst of the injury, but what's stunning to me is you have over a thousand students at this school and we don't have a clear picture of this young man that police say carried this out. >> reporter: well, he seemed to have been a loner and most of the kids don't know him very

well. brett hurt who you just heard from and we were just at the press conference with him said he'd only encountered him a few times here and there and didn't know a lot about him and the picture that's emerging of the defendant, mr. hribal was that he wasn't well known in the school and this came out of the blue and you're right. there are reports that he had been bullied and brett's mom said something in the press conference about how she thought there was more bullying going on thea the school and in societe generally than we're perhaps willing to admit suggesting that that might have been the problem and she doesn't know exactly. she didn't say this, but her daughter was also at the school, a freshman and she had two kids at the school and her daughter was in the library and further down the hall and out of the way of the attack and ran out of the school and then she called her mother. this mother is getting these two agonizing phone calls about her kids in this life and death situation and she is really -- it was obviously a very

difficult time for her. a lot of emotion in the press conference just to hear from a parent about what they went through and of course, brett. i asked him, do you think you'll be able to go back to that school and he said essentially not any time soon. he said if he went there he felt he would just freeze and he needs some time, and i think a lot of kids will be feeling the same thing. a lot of counseling going on being offered in the town today, but this community certainly has a long road back before that high school becomes anything like it was before this incident yesterday. >> to that point, when will school open? i've heard maybe monday at the earliest? >> monday is the plan, yes. the school has now been cleared of evidence according to police. there was the expectation that a cleaning, restoration company would go in there today and start trying to just clean up everything that's there from the crime scene, but again, this monday is a tentative day. it's a day on the calendar.

i think they're taking this very slowly. the doctors have said it will take a long time before they can evaluate the status of the patients that they're seeing and there are still nine or ten patients at the hospital today and some are expected to go home from here any brett to his credit thought he was going to be able to go home today or tomorrow at some point. >> thank you very much. let me bring in evan katz, a leading psychotherapist who has worked on hundreds of criminal cases specializing in the area of counseling as it relates to high-risk teenagers and he's the author of "inside the mind of an angry man." thank you for your time here. >> thank you for having me. we just learned that the director of the westmore land center where alex hribal was brought yesterday, he is there and neither his parents nor his attorney visited him yet and that may not happen until saturday or sunday, but we've heard from the family's attorney and they make the point, at

least according to the family, that there was no sign that this would happen. that this young man exhibited no signs of hostility or anger. is that possible or do you believe perhaps this could be a case where parents overlooked it or didn't want to see something? >> no. this is really very common. we really have three types of different types of anger. we have aggressive, we have passive aggressive and we also have passive. the aggressive is the squeaky wheel that we all pretty much know. the passive aggressive is more covert and manipulative and this young man, along with just about every other killer that i have looked at with all of the tragedies we're seeing is more of a passive anger and what this person has learned to do is cope in their lives by pulling in and staying inside and learning how not to show how they really feel so that people don't laugh at

them or feel vulnerable or be criticized. so what you see and what we typically hear and again, in this situation as well, is, you know, he was a quiet kid. never saw a problem. if you were to ask what does he do? do you know anything about him? most people will tell you no because he's learned how to fly under the radar. so my belief is that this was one of those cases and if we look back we can see the same thing in so many of the other tragedies, as well. >> evan, you mentioned flying under the radar and that's exactly what we're hearing. you have a student body of over a thousand students and no one at least that we've heard from has come out and said this is my best buddy and we hung out every day and not to say that that won't come out, but at this point, as we're piecing together who this young man is, we're not hearing, that he flew under the

radar. so the logical question is is it usually an event or a simmer that turns to a boil that causes someone to go from that passive aggressive to this explosive anger that he is accused of? >> that's a great question. and what generally happens is people put up a shield. some people push out in order to keep people away. he pulls in. so in this type of a situation, what has happened is over time he has learned how to do this to where he doesn't even realize that he's doing it. it's a typical coping mechanism. as a result, his perceptions of reality become distorted which changes his feelings. his feelings are basically irrational and he's reacting to things that aren't really happening. so at a certain point and this is only a very small segment of the population, many people have

passive-type anger and he snapped and in my opinion and he was on autopilot by the time he got to the school and what i tell people is you don't try to be rational with an irrational person so for us to try to rationalize and figure out from a rational position isn't going to work. there's nothing rational about it. >> which is why he is going to be evaluated and we'll learn more details and i should point out you've not personally evaluated him reacting to the information that's been provided by investigatorses and the family. thank you so much, evan, for your insight into this case as we look for more answers. thank you. >> thanks for having me. oscar firstorius faced an intense and relentless grill in what is now his fourth day on the stand and the lead prosecutor pressed him on his relationship with reeva steenkamp in prior days of a

gun. and painting him as a jealous, controlling boyfriend who snapped. >> the phrase i love you appeared twice in reeva's -- both times show wrote that to her mother. never to you and you never to her, am i right? >> that's correct, my lady. i never got the opportunity to tell reeva that i loved her. >> your life is just about you. what's important to oscar. oscar shouldn't get into trouble. this shouldn't get into the media. you are very concerned about what's good for oscar. >> i was very concerned for both of our futures. >> you started your evidence off in this court with an apology. am i right? >> that's correct, my lady. >> if you were wanting to do it, why would you create this spectacle in court in the public domain, in the public eye

apologize and not in private? why would you do that? >> my lady, i haven't had the opportunity to meet the steenkamps. >> pistorius is still choosing not to testify on camera and the prosecutor also grilled him about an incident in an upscale restaurant where a gun he was holding went off. >> i must then accept that your version that the gun went off by itself. they gave you a gun and it went off by itself? >> i don't recall how the firearm went off, my lady. i know my finger was not on the trigger, and i know that when i checked to see if the firearm was safe that it went off. that's -- >> mr. pistorius, you see, and i want to tell you where i'm going. you just refuse to take responsibility for anything. >> there was an awkward moment at one point when the judge reprimanded the prosecutor for laughing at one of oscar pistorius' answers. >> who told you?

>> i don't recall, my lady. >> no. no, i apologize, my lady, for laughing. >> i hope it doesn't happen again. >> no, it won't. >> i also want to say something to people out there, you possibly think this is entertainment, it is not. so, please, restrain yourselves. >> nbc's mike taibbi was inside the courtroom in pretoria. this prosecutor, the lead prosecutor is known as the pit bull. the judge in this case, not appreciating some of the behavior in what appears to be a strategy to try and break oscar pistorius. >> reporter: yeah. you know, the nickname for him is the pit bull or the rottweiler, but i have to tell you he was a smaller bull terrier taking smaller chunks, but no less relentless. he started off by attacking the description of a loving relationship that oscar had given that he'd had with reeva

steenkamp, planning a future together, lovy dovy arguments that were quickly resolved minutes later in many cases, or the the next day, but always resolved and there were three firearms charges and the most serious one where oscar again blamed his friends for giving him a weapon that was in a dangerous condition that went off by itself and the miraculous trigger. they went back into the bedroom, the scene of the crime that night, valentine's day morning of 2013 and already the prosecutor has had -- has been able to get oscar pistorius to have to admit that some of the things he says he remembered are were reskconstituted memories. all he knows is he fired four shots in quick succession and until he was told about it, he didn't know there were four shots and that's something that's been reconstituted and still insisting that the shooting itself was in his words, an accident and we'll be

back at the death scene tomorrow where the prosecutor will continue his relentless prosecution. >> thank you very much. joining me now, legal analyst lisa green. i just want to launch into some of the information that came out today. specifically the prosecutor grilling oscar pistorius on this text message where reeva steenkamp said that she was afraid of him. let me play oscar pistorius' reaction or his explanation as to why she would feel that way. let's play it. >> i'm scared of you sometimes. why would she be scared of you? >> i think she's scared of the feelings that she has for me and the way that i brushed her off. >> just say that again. >> she's scared of what? >> i think she's scared of the feelings that we had -- that she had for me, my lady. she said i'm scared of you sometimes and how you snap at me and how you will react to me. >> did he answer that question? >> not entirely satis

factorially, and he criticized her for chewing gum. he criticized her for practicing an accent even though she was an aspiring actress and we hear troubling signs this those texts from reeva who can't speak for herself anymore of a controlling relationship. does it prove he's a murderer? being, it doesn't. does it go for murder or for intent? it absolutely could. >> in a text message says i can't be attacked by others for dating you, and i can't be attacked by you. she felt over the short course of this relationship and we should note they had not met one another's family members. this was a new relationship and, too, so early on to be afraid of someone and to articulate i think is interesting. >> i think it's interesting, too. in his defense, pistorius' lawyers talk about the vast majority of text messages being positive, i would say, so what? you don't need to relentlessly talk about how threatened you

feel for the threats to be real. >> the other thing i thought was interesting from the prosecutor beating down oscar pistorius that they had not expressed love in a text message. i didn't know where he was going with that. this relationship is new. it seemed to me followed the line of why she was afraid as opposed to an early relationship why didn't the two of you say you loved one another. >> i think he's underlining the majority of text messages that expressed loving feelings and why didn't you directly tell her you love her when you were able to tell her hey, stop chewing gum. >> and this notion that he's an ego maniac or with egotistical behavior and when confronted with issues he blames someone else. from the restaurant with the handgun that someone else had given him this firearm that was ready to discharge and it was always someone else and the prosecutor. >> the prosecutor hassy kroo eighted a very long and seemingly growing list of other people who pistorius finds

himself in trouble and it ranges from those at the restaurant to his legal team who have given him insufficient or inaccurate advice. >> do you believe he'll wrap up tomorrow with oscar pistorius? >> no. absolutely not. i think he will stay on this guy relentlessly, undermining his credibility long after you and i might think he needs to. >> this is where the ross cure the finds holes in the story and questions that are not being answered. >> the defense team comes back with more than a dozen witnesses. >> thank you so much. still ahead, are authorities closer than ever to find the missing malaysian airlines. two new pings were detected today and that might have come from the black box. plus -- >> what attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? >> and attorney general eric holder goes off script while speaking at the national action network convention saying it's unprecedented how he and the president have been treated despite strides made in civil

rights. jonathan capehart will join us to discuss his comments. plus -- >> now i have a question. who's going to open the wine? >> the walking dead meets "news nation." coming up, the actress joins us live to talk about what's ahead for the survivors of the zombie apocalypse and plus a mission very close to her life and her family. join the conversation on twitter and join me @tamronhall and news nation.

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in the indian ocean about 1400 miles northwest of perth, australia. nbc's ian williams joins us live from perth. ian, what's next here? >> reporter: hi, tamron. well, the search coordinator angus houston, cautious as ever, is describing this as a possible signal which will be analyzed overnight. now, if it is confirmed, it will be the fifth signal in the same area that's consistent with the sig fall from a black box. significantly this came from an aircraft. it didn't come from the ping locator that's being towed through the sea. it it came from an aircraft, an australian orion p3 which we believe was talking to sonar buoys which have been laid out quite extensively now across the search area. what next? they'll want to make sure they have as much sound as possible, as many signals as possible and don't forget, the battery on that black box as far as running

out of life, but the more signals they can get the better they can pinpoint precisely what's coming up from the sea bed which, don't forget, is almost three miles down. next thing they want to do is deploy a submersible vehicle, a kind of drone to put down there and take a look. it's a walking pace and incredibly slow and the area they have at the moment is very large. it would take weeks if are the drone to search that, but the more of the signals they can get, the more they will be able to narrow that down and that is good news and if it is confirmed yet another pointer and they'll be looking for more of these over the coming days as the search continues and they have the deployment drone. ian williams. thank you, ian. since gm announced the massive ignition switch recall the company puts employees on leave. it is one of the stories we are following around the news nation. authorities are on the hunt for

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right now a man hunt is under way in florida for a driver that police say caused an accident who killed a 4-year-old girl who was at day care. robert corchado was behind the wheel of a suv that hit the back of another car forcing it off

the road and it plowed into that day care. we now know the girl that was killed was named lily cuentas and her birthday was just three weeks ago. kerry sanders is in front of that day care center. you spoke to the father of one of the children who survived this unimaginable accident. a horrible accident. what did he tell you. >> this is the day care center and you can see over my shoulder the plywood and that's the area where the car went through into the day care center. sitting just beyond that wall was 5-year-old xavier velez. he was there sitting at a table and according to his father says he actually saw the car come through and saw it crush his friends and saw the car crush his friends and he had a laceration on his back, his neck and head, and his arms and legs

were bruised. i talked to the father about talking to his son about what happened and this is what he had to say. >> in great detail and it was kind of -- it was -- it was kind of hard to hear it because although he came out of it pretty, you know, just a little banged up, he saw everything. he saw his friends underneath the car and stuff like that so it was very hard for him to recount everything that happened and listening to that was very hard for us. >> reporter: as you noted -- as you noted, they're looking for the driver of the car, but let me explain the accident. this two-lane road. there was a car coming here and behind it an suv. somehow that suv hit the car and the reason i'm demonstrating here is that car was beginning to make a turn here when it was hit. they set up -- and the car continued this way and woend up

going in through the front door. so getting hit from behind, it must have been hit at a very high impact to cause the car to go this way. the florida highway patrol are trying to still figure out why the car traveled so far, whether the driver was able to hit the brakes or if he hit the accelerator, they don't know. the driver of the car is uninjured and he is not being charged with anything. >> what do we know about this person of interest? >> the person of interest is 28 years old and when they started running his tag and his information of who he was they saw that he'd been in trouble with the law before for drug charges, that he'd served time in prison and that he has been involved in a hit and run before. why did he run? it may be that he was connecting things that happened in his earlier life to what had happened here. we don't know. . all we do know is that the florida highway patrol has a real man hunt out for him. he apparently left the area and

went over towards the airport here, rented a car from enterprise and then took off in the car. the authorities know the type of car and they have a picture of him from the security camera and they have the number of the car he rented and as of 2:30 eastern time, they'll update us on the latest and i guess, ask people to help them try to find him. >> i'm out of time and this is a simple answer. these days the rental companies have a gps attached to the vehicles? have they explored that or do you have an answer on that? >> i don't have an answer on that. i know it was an enterprise car and i don't know if they do that in that company, but it will be one of the questions and the detectives asked that question immediately. >> okay. >> and if they are tracking the car and haven't caught him yet we can conclude that they haven't found him using gps. >> thank you, kerry, very much. very sad story there. developing now, president

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developing now, president obama and the first lady are about to arrive in -- excuse me, austin, texas, any time now. and they're headed to the lbj library and the president will deliver the keynote speech, marking the 50th anniversary of

lbj signing the landmark civil rights act. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker is traveling with the president and joins us live from austin. kristen? >> hi there, tamron. president obama will speak in just over an hour from now and it will be poignant because the civil rights act made his presidency a possibility and president obama will talk about the incredible progress that has been made since 1964, but he is also going to talk about the difficult work that remains ahead particularly when you think of high poverty rates in minority communities, womens rights and rights of those within the lgbt community. yesterday i was able to interview president johnson's eldest daughter, linda johnson rob and she wishes her parents were here for the celebration marking the anniversary. if they were, they would say a lot of work remains. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i feel that they're watching

from above and reminding us all keep going, keep going. moving on. don't sit on your laurels. >> reporter: now, in all, four presidents will have spoken at the end of this summit. they will have made similar points that a lot of difficult work remains. to some extent, this is a chance to recast johnson's legacy which historians have said has been overshadowed by some extent by the vietnam war and this week focusing on the incredible progress that was made in civil rights during his time as president. tamron, back to you. >> thank you. our special coverage starts at noon today on msnbc with andrea mitchell covering the president's address. and as the president prepares to speak thea the civil rights summit in austin, attorney general eric holder is drawing attention for remarks he made at the national convention of the action network headed by reverend al sharpton, the attorney general said he and president obama get treated by

congress the way their predecessors never would have. >> i am pleased to note that the last five years have been defined by significant strides and by lasting reforms even in the face of -- even in the face of unprecedented, unwarranted, ugly and divisive adversity. [ applause ] >> if you don't believe that, you look at the way -- forget about me. forget about me. you look at the way the the attorney general of the united states was treated yesterday. what attorney general has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? [ applause ] >> what president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? >> the attorney general was referring to a testy exchange with texas republican congressman louis gohmert the day before at a house hearing. take a look. >> i think what we promised to do was provide you and your staff with -- >> sir, i've read you which your

department promised and it is inadequate and i realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight. >> you don't want to go there, okay? >> i don't want to go there? >> no. about the contempt? >> you should not assume that that is not a big deal to me. i think that it was inappropriate and it was unjust, but never think that that was not a big deal to me. don't ever think that. this was all about the gun lobby and a desire to have -- >> sir. we've been trying to get to the bottom of fast and furious where people died, where at least a couple hundred mexicans died and we can't get the information to get to the bottom of that so i don't need lectures from you about contempt. >> and i don't need lectures from you, either. >> joining me live, "washington post" volume nift jonathan who is a msnbc contributor.

the remarks made by mr. holder were ad libbed and off-the-cuff. it wasn't scripted here and we have a number of people who have opinions about what he said. what are your thoughts here? >> clearly, the attorney general was expressing some frustration with the situation that he finds himself in where he's been held in contempt of congress. the third attorney general to have that happen to him. it happened to janet reno under president clinton. it happened under william french smith and under president reagan, but, you know, you can see from that exchange that you showed from congressman gohmert that attorney general holder not only is frustrated, but he's not going to take it anymore. he's been investigated, talked down to, con descended to for as long as he's been in that office and i bet you that that will not be the last time we see the attorney general give as good as he gets. >> it doesn't sound like it. in the beginning of the remarks that he played at that the

hearing he actually said don't go there, buddy, to gohmert who made questionable comments in the past regarding the president as well as the attorney general, but it's also interesting that another republican, congressman blake farenhall refused to questioneric holder implying that holder should be in jail and you have this morning, jonathan, and i'm sure you heard it as well that some republicans who say, wait a minute. this is not an exception. we've seen this with other asks you bring up janet reno and our own joe scarborough after waco and janet reno was also attacked by her critics and he doesn't see that the eric holder situation is different than the pattern we've seen in the past. at least that's his opinion. >> right. to a certain extent i can see what joe is saying, but underlying the frustration there is that -- that janet reno and eric holder as attorney general are being treated differently and as the attorney general pointed out in his remarks that

you showed he ratcheted it up to even the president is being treated differently, and treated in a way that no other president has been treated before and while the attorney general doesn't go there in terms of talking about race, when you bring the president in there, and then you take into account where those remarks were made, race is a part of it. look, no other president of the united states has ever had his citizenship and, thus, his authority to be president of the united states questioned before and no president has had to produce his birth certificate to prove that he is right to be president of the united states. >> and to that point, jonathan, not just on the fringe, either. you're talking about different members of congress who were put on the spot and said, was the president born in the united states? and you would get either a blank stare or an answer that went around the question other than john mccain during that now famous town hall when he

actually chastised a member of the town hall who had gone there if you're going to quote eric holder. >> and that's where i was going. the problem, the reason why the birther nonsense was able to midwest aft sized is because no grown up within the republican party was willing to step forward and say this is wrong. he is president of the united states. this line of questions is outrageous. it's un-american and let's talk about the real issues that we need to talk about to move the country forward. people can disagree with the president without questioning his citizenship, but no one did that. >> thank you very much, jonathan. it's a great pleasure having you on. a new report shows the fbi was missing vital information about marathon bomber tamerlan tsarnaev, information russians withheld and we're following this around the nation for you. i don't want to think about the alternative.

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is she not the toughest open the plan planet? they wrapped up the fourth season with a finale setting a record cliff hanger that left fans on edge of their seats. one of the stars, danai gurira hinted things could get more dire when it premieres this fall. a lot of people enjoy the show and have gotten into it, whole sets of communities have sprouted up online. already many of you have actually e-mailed us about michonne. but the story of danai extends further than what we see on screen much she was born in the united states and raised in zimbabwe and wants to bring the dramatic arts to zimbabwe. award winning playwright and founder of -- i believe we

have -- do we have her now? apparently the zombies have taken over and we have lost our live picture with danai. i'm going to tell you right now, somebody get a mattress because i'm going to faint on this floor if we do not get this technical -- this has never happened on "news nation." we've lost our connection. okay, danai, are you there? >> i am, how are you? >> i think they did this on purpose. they wanted me to just collapse and die. i don't know. thank goodness. all righty, let me get my c composure. i want to talk about your background, you're an award winning playwright and want to bring dramatic arts, theater to zimbabwe. you were born in the u.s. but your parents at one point decided at a point to move you

to zimbabwe. >> yes, i was born in the u.s. my father was a professor and my mother a librarian and moved back when i was 5 around the time zimbabwe gained independence. there is theater in zimbabwe, the issues are the real professionalization of it, education, really sort of propelling it. it's kind of in a flat line position and isn't in a position of development and skills aren't able to be developed. i go home like every year and i just participate in little things here and there. i wanted to see a more substantial opportunity given to the zimbabwe artists. a co-created the arts with a director and we saw the dire need to bring something more, more facilitation and collaboration and it collaborates with american artists and american artistic

instituti institutions. we have zimbabwes coming here for mentorship. >> congratulations on your step in that direction. you're incredibly busy and the season finale was unimaginable. you set records in the past and there are a lot of questions. let's launch in right now. michonne, reunited with rick, with the crew and now everyone is inside this train car. >> right. >> at the end rick says they've picked the wrong people to mess with here -- >> to bleep with, yes. >> what happens next? >> i'm about to tell you everything right now. it was so great a couple of days ago. i actually didn't know anything and now i do so i'm fully loaded and like oh, man, it's so dangerous to be fully loaded. but i can part much other than it is going to be quite a ride and completely different from anything we've seen before on the show. it just keeps reinventing

itself, which is really thrilling as a person in the show and participating with the show. it's like, wow, that's where it's going next? wow? >> were you surprised by the response? were you surprised by the response, especially to your character michonne? >> it was daunting stepping into her shoes, she already had a following. it was kind of like i was knocking on the door asking to let me in and she was like, who are you? what do you want? it was a daunting task. ultimately i had to make her my own. it was wonderful to work with such an amazing team of writers and they really developed her very carefully over a very long stretch of time. first thing they told me, she's not going to talk much. and no one will be able to read her. she's going to be really unreadable and i was like, okay, no actor wants to hear that. we want to hear you're going to be open all the time. so it was really interesting but i was such a fantastic challenge to actually not allow her to be open for as long as she is. >> a beautiful actress and

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