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and it all started on this night 67 years ago. when you think of what the people like jackie robinson took to advance us 67 years ago, we can take what we need to take to keep that advance going. advancing the dream today. boehner's heros. let's play "hardball." good evening. let me start with the heated up battle over politics and race. john boehner, the speaker of the house denied it has anything to do with the way republican members of congress, two of them from texas especially treat the administration of barack obama. >> there's no issue of race
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here. >> he said the nasty treatment of attorney general eric holder this week was spurred by the usual republican complaints, you know, the irs, fast and furious, and of course, benghazi. as usual, boehner was doing his sergeant shultz routine from hogan's heroes. i know nothing, i was not here, and i did not even get up this morning. remember this response when boehner was asked about the republicans and his caucus who denied the spt a natural born american and therefore even eligible to be president. >> david, it's not my job to tell the american people what to think. >> what a bone headed comment. also the assault continues today with one side hearing and describing what's going on. the other side, i believe, denying the treatment of this president and his attorney general has anything to do with race. michelle bernard with politics and public plus and the author of "moving america towards justice." and my colleague, host of
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msnbc's "now with alex wagner." here we are now. and the question is about this thing. this is sticky to talk about. i think the president doesn't like talking about it for political strategic reasons. here we have the treatment of louie gohmert, a crassic birther. and farenthold who get their wheaties in the morning, get up thinking this guy shouldn't be president and then they go and do all the other stuff on top of that. >> and they go to bed thinking the exact same thing. tos a test of the nation's conscious. when john boehner says this is not a matter of race, he has to realize he's representing the entire united states, people all around the world are looking at this and it doesn't pass the sniff test. a year ago, president obama spoke at moorehouse college. he gave the commencement address in an historically black college in atlanta. i just want to quote him real quickly. one of the things he said, speaking to all these young black men, he said you know what
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it's like to be an outsider. you know what it's like to be marginaliz marginalized. you know what it's like to feel the sting of discrimination. he went on to talk about the state of civil rights in the nation and how we treat african-americans, hispanics, the muslim community, the gay and lesbian community. we have a serious problem and anyone who watched how eric holder was treated, anyone who would dare to think that january brewer, the governor of bill clinton and shake her finger or have joe wilson yell at bill clinton during a speech at the joint session of congress "you lie" has to be crazy if they don't think it's no the because he's black. >> john boehner is now out there defending the birther crowd. his birther cohorts, guys like louie gohmert and flake farenthold of texas treated eric holder with such contempt this week that holder later said what attorney general or president has ever had to deal with that
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kind of treatment? here's boehner talking with reporters, as i said, yesterday. >> there's no issue of race here. the frustration is that the american people have not been told the truth about what happened at the irs. the american people have not been told the truth about what happened in fast and furious. the administration has not told the americans the truth about benghazi. and we've been going for all these hearings, holding people in contempt because they made it possible to get to the documents. they have not been forth coming. they owe the american people the truth. when it comes to benghazi, we have four americans who are dead and their families deserve the truth about what happened and the administration refuses to tell them the truth. >> that's an acting award right there. an absolute acting award. the only whacko insulted speaker boehner has defended. here he is back in 2011 standing up for all forms of republican ignorance. let's listen.
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>> i believe he is a muslim. >> you do? >> how many of you believe that here? wow. >> as the speaker of the house, as a leader, do you not think it's your responsibility to stand up to that kind of ignorance? >> david, it's not my job to tell the american people what to think. >> you know, that was the groggiest look and answer. how can he say it's not his job to tell the american people what to think. he's the leader of the congress, speaker of the house, second in line to the presidency. he's supposed to be a leader and he says that's not my job. >> it's groggy because the mickeys he's been slipped by the heritage foundation are maybe wearing off. >> metaphor call point. >> yes. there was a point when john boehner actually called out the fractious hard line -- >> that was because he was
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hurting -- let's talk about colbert, truthiness. doesn't he owe the voter a true statement about what being a republican is. you're not supposed to be racist. if somebody is, they should be outside the crowd. you should treat presidents with respect for the fact that they're president. you don't yell out "you lie." he didn't do anything to joe wilson when he did that, did he? >> he didn't do anything. it's a moral issue and it's embarrassing. john mccain ran for president and he corrected someone who was -- >> that will go down on his obit when it comes. one of his great profiles in courage. it was running in president and it didn't help him a bit to stand up to those bad guys. >> he stood up for that. he also apologized for make voting against making martin luther king a national holiday. you fleed to see more from that in the republican party. >> what are you? the national memory bank? >> that's your job. >> that's great. i didn't remember that one. >> we're going to continue to
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see any women that are left in the republican, any african-americans left in the republican party, any hispanics left are going to continue -- they're going to keep walking out. >> late today, speaking to al sharpton's national action network, president obama spoke on the issue of voting rights. boy is this an issue. he started off attacking with the republican party's tactics to suppress the voting rights, especially of minorities by making them show their papers, as he puts it, something the president is all too familiar with since he had to show his. >> folks may learn that without a document like a passport or a birth certificate, they can't regist register. about 60% of americans don't have. >> v a posz port. just because you don't have the money to travel abroad doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to vote here at home. and just to be clear, i know where my birther is did i have at that time is, but a lot of people don't. a lot of people don't.
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[ applause ] i think it's still up on a website somewhere. you remember that? that was crazy. that was some crazy stuff. >> that's a good crowd for him. then he delivered a call to action. >> america did not stand up and did not march and did not sacrifice to gain the right to vote for themselves and for other only to see it denied to their kids and their grandchildren. we've got to pay attention to this. >> i thought he was going to do also green there, he's so af comfortable with this crowd. he always pulls back. he never wants to be a grievance guy. he doesn't want to be the complaint window about race. race is an historic problem in this country. but he doesn't seem to want to be -- i think he thinks it takes
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down from his dignity and he may be darn right here. as president, he can't be a complainer. >> well, i think this is all part of the strategy that led him into the oval office in 2009, which was we're not going to make race the issue. we're not going to put this front and center. the truth is because of what has happened during this administration, the president is forced to address race and has more cently after the trayvon martin verdict, the my brother's keeper initiative he also talked about tonight. because he is a second-term president is feeling more the weight of history on his shoulders. >> it's so hard to do those things. i watched him with henry lewis gates. it' so hard to do it right without it look like you're coming in as the judge to solve the problem and also an advocate. >> but chris, what is happening across the country in these republican-held legislatures and republican governors trying to suppress the vote, that is disproportionately affecting black voters and it's going to hurt the democratic party in 2014 and possibly 2016. he has every reason to -- >> is john boehner ever going to
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own up to the fact that he's got back people in their party. -- i don't deny it's rational. i think they know exactly who they're talking about, the president, and they're talking for the people from some of these very rural texas districts where people have bad attitudes about blacks. and he's playing that card. but in this case, it's nasty business. >> they accuse the president continually of playing the race card. >> he doesn't. >> but that's exactly what the frun party is doing. they're playing the race card. >> farenthold, i said just repeat after me, the president was legitimately electric ll l. he wouldn't. >> it's a physical block to acknowledge the results. >> how the hard right talks about the. the here's just a sampling of their contempt in recent years. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those here illegally.
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>> you lie! >> that's not true. >> i don't want to each have to be associated with him. it'stouching a tar baby and you're stuck and part of the problem now. >> i feel your pain. i stood 12 feet from the guy and listened to him. and i couldn't stand being there. tell me how he's the piston united states? >> those guys weren't southerners. one guy is from colorado and the second guy is from michigan. this attitude about the president is not all dixiecrats talking. >> it is a national embarrassment. there's no other way to describe it. it is a significant moral issue. it paints the way the entire world looks at our country, when president obama was elected as president twice, when eric holder was einauguratinged as attorney general. they didn't take anything away from anybody. >> i'm waiting for boehner to
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stop playing rabbi for the birthers. >> he's not going to do it. >> uh you're going to be waiting for a long time. >> you'll get a show one of these days. if you want one. kathleen sebelius resigns. but if you read the front page of "the washington post," there's a lot of trash talk that came right out of the white house last night. it sure likes like the obama administration is happy for her to move on. we'll see how this thing went to press. bus no one else has parodied the far right in this country so brilliantly as stephen colbert. now he's taking over for david letterman. what a proportion. he's ditching that buffoon persspere persona of his. we're going to miss that stuff. and paul ryan's gift to the democrats. nearly all congressmen right now, all men, running in the senate against democrats voted for the ryan budget which cuts
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medicare. you can bet democrats will make something of that. finally, another senate candidate in iowa may well have run an ad about castrating hogs. she's tough. this is "hardball." ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer.
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[ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ a leading conservative voice says it's time for the republicans to give up their obsession with benghazi. here's the great charles krauthammer on fox news. >> politically speaking, the administration has won. they ran out the clock. if we had a select committee from the beginning, really had coherent hearing unlike what we've had, which were disjointed hearings, we really would have been somewhere. we would have gotten to the bottom of this. but as a political fact, this thing is done. >> i don't agree with him much, but he is one smart fellow. he agrees with those on the right who did make benghazi a
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political issue, the country is tired of it and the republicans blew it with disorganized hearings, especially, i think, with secretary clinton. we'll be right back. you stand b. around here you don't make excuses. you stand b. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to look.
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>> yes, we lost the first quarter of enrollment period with healthcare.gov. and there were problems. but under kathleen's leadership, her team at hhs turned the corner, got it fixed, got the job done, and the final score speaks for itself. >> she didn't shy away from acknowledging the disastrous, even the catastrophic rollout of the website. if the anonymous allies were more along the lines of don't
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let the door hit you on the way out. here's a quote, some white house allies said thursday night, the troubled launch of health care.gov had heightened tensions between sebelius and the president's staff members who had become increasingly mistrustful of the department she led. or this one. the president long preferred to be running the show on the health care law but sebelius and her aids were increasingly cut out of the process after healthcare.gov escalated into a political disaster. she was not part of the group who told her the numbers had reached 7 million.
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he did not mention her in the announcement. john, i want to start with you. nudging, agreeing on the time, my question, maybe the tough question, could sebelius have stayed on for the rest of the second term if she had wanted to? >> i think she would have had to fight pretty hard for that, chris, and i don't think she had that much fight left in her. i think her fate in the sense that she was not going to be someone, very few cabinets stay an entire two terms. she had been at this job for five year be uh her fate that she was going to leave at some point this year was sealed back last fall during the catastrophic rollout of the health care plan. the question was would she get fired or be given that chance to see it through to meetding those original projections and those original goals? and they gave her the chance, the president did, even though some people on his staff probably would liked to have
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seen her go earlier. the president gave her a chance to go out with a relatively dignified exit and something that could be called a victory to her name. >> they made the announcement after the 7 million victory mark, but nonetheless, i go back to this, you're the expert on this kind of deadline reportin., >> i think those comments are incredibly self-serving. this white house has always been been all about themselves saying they can do anything better than their cabinet and taking credit when they can. this is the president's signature achievement. he and his team should have been on top of that. they weren't. they were very passive about it. they left it to a very large bureaucracy that they knew little about and then laid the blame on kathleen sebelius for
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not doing it right. to do that kind of sniping about her performance, actually what she's done, after what she's done for this president and for five years of service in that job, which, by the way, is probably one of the longest lasting hhs secretaries in history, was pretty lame. >> why didn't the president have a direct line between him and the top zab instead of waiting for it to go kaboom instead of saying the person in charge was the top officer of the cmm, it was so removed from him. >> this is his legacy. the aca is this president's legacy. if he wanted it to be rolled out exactly right, he and his team should have been more on top of it than they were.
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so now to say sebelius presided over this botched rollout, that's very convenient for them. it works -- the optics of it work pretty well. >> what beth says rings so true with what i heard about the white house operation. when you look at meet the press and say why don't they have the secretary this or that on the show? they'll have a dan pfeiffer or valley jarrett for the white house. and you know what the answer i get? they don't trust those people to get the message out. they don't have a clear line of talk even with them. what is the trob with cabinet government under this administration? when they don't trust their people, don't connect with them, they do it themselves. i don't think staff people should be on the national television every sunday. they're look for principles and they're not get getting them for some reason. >> it's always been the case with this edadministration.
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i did a long story "new york magazine where i went around and asked how many people spoke with the president who were cabinet members. and most weren't one or two times. many could not pick the cabinet secretaries out of a lineup. you go back to that specific time frame, everyone assumed part of the reason was they were going to put him on the sunday shows because he was a big washington veteran. they didn't trust him on the sunday shows either. so 24 notion of not trust, not only not trusting cabinet second dars, but not even trusting people who are not in the tightest inner circle around the president and the president himself has been an engrained part of this white house since day one.
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it sfaed very small. john stewart's daily show forced people to sign up for health insurance, but she stumbled on the question why businesses not vinl individuals could delay. >> the businesses don't get subsidies. >> they get to delay because they' not getting extra money but individuals don't because they will. >> they're in the market already. >> let me ask you this, am i a stupid man? >> for a lot of young folks, you know, one fall on the basketball court, one auto accident away from a lifetime of hospital bills they can't pay. >> still not sure why individuals can't delay. >> i've been a beneficiary of
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that guy's wit myself being sarcastic. he can be very tough and intimidating. he's quick as a whit. is that the kind of performance the white house didn't trust? >> that's one of a jillion things she was probably doing. she got through this -- show oversaw the rollout of this enormous health man date. there were problems with it. there's no questions about it. but on balance, she did a lot well. to hang on the daily show appearance and say it wasn't quite up to snuff seems self-serving. >> she's a great governor of kansas and very smart and astute person. somehow in this mix, billy daly is another good guy that wasn't able to mix with this crowd. it's very hard to integrate with the obama crowd. a very tight circle.
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there are some huge shoes to fill and some pretty big pants. >> that was stephen colbert's news last night that he's giving up the show and stephen colbert, the character, to take over david letterman at cbs next year. in a statement, he sate, i won't be doing the new show in character so we all get to find out how much of him was me. i'm looking forward to it. well said. for nearly a decade, the colbert character has been one of the sharpest sat fires of the right wing noise machine on tv ever. here's a recent example of how colbert parodied the conservative clown car. from pill 1 of this year when the white house announced more than 7 mlg americans had signed up for health care under the affordable care act. >> tonight, we're all happy, and i wish i could come to you with some good news. but the worst imaginable thing has happened.
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millions of americans are going to get health care. this last minute sign-up surge has completely rained on our parade. seriously, we had to cancel the para parade. and last night, i had to scrap my plans for stephen colbert's rocking enrollment failure eve where me, ryan seacest and t.i. were going to count down on a giant clock n that will dropped an uninsured person in times square. then, of course, we don't take him to the hospital because he doesn't have insurance. jim, thank you for joining us. this is to me, i really like colbert. i've been on the show a number of times. i even put him in a full nelson one night. he did a whole thing on me being irish and the potato eating.
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i've always had a good time. i how is he going to give thaup persona and be a real guy. chevy chase couldn't do it. when he played that zany chevy chase character, everybody thought that was chevy chase. o. >> it's funny, way back when his show was starting, i interviewed him out of character, which he doesn't do that often anymore. he is a real guy. he's very intelligent. he's versatile, a good performer. he can do a lot of good things. i still think leaving the character behind is going to be a big loss, simply because it's probably the most original creation in late night since david letterman started, you know, late night with david letterman some 30 years ago. i think it's going to be a big transition because stephen colbert, the actual guy, is, you know, sort of like an unknown character who we've just been watching for ten years on tv. . that person, the actual him has not been an entity on tv so much.
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>> you know, rush limbaugh has no sense of humor. he's going nuts about that. he says this is some liberal takeover. he had some strong words for cbs's choice of late night host. >> you care what i think of kolber getting letterman's gig? cbs has just declared war on the heartland of america. no longer is comedy going to be a covert assault on traditional american values, conservatives. it's just wide out in the open. they've hired a partisan so-called comedian to run a comedy show. >> what about those years of bob hope on the right? did anybody notice they were conservatives? >> or did rush suppose that david letterman was pat
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robertson and the whole thing was the 700 club. >> this right wing umbrage. >> i think he's fooled by the character in thinking -- he's heard about him from bill o'reilly probably. i think it's fortuitous, this timing for colbert because, you know, it's a schtick and it was going to get old at some point. it's been brilliant he's been able to keep it up this long and it's only because the importance of the real bill o'reilly because of the obama years. as that fades away, this schtick was going to fade away. he had to get out of character anyway. the interest thing we're going to find out. he's not some screaming liberal. he's going to move away from politics. late night comedy is moving away from politics. >> we never really knew carson's politics all those years. let's watch him in action.
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>> last night due to the technicality called the constitution, barack obama was re-elected president. >> thanks so much for joining us. there are a lot of republicans, a lot of conservatives out there who will not back you in this cause. i'm here to say i do. i agree, barack obama is a terrible president. we have to get him out of office by any weird loophole we can make up. did you know that in india the tribe sacrifices thousands of birds in a single day so their god can drink the blood? or the ancient pat goen that tribe would redress the bodies of dead relatives err year. and did you know that in some u.s. states it's legal for two dudes to get married? >> i appeared on that show multiple times. he didn't seem to take my point about the necessity of
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compromise in politics. let's watch stephen colbert. >> you're implying there has to be some compromise in politics. >> yes, like in life. we have a vote and it has to be 218 in the house or 60 in the senate. and then we go with that vote. that's how it works. is this too complicated? >> yes. i believe in standing on your principles. >> which means don't compromise. >> reagan never did. >> he did so. that's what the book is about. >> he did not. i don't care what the book is about. i don't care what kind of harry potter fantasy you've written here. ronald reagan stood on his principles and punched gorbachev and knocked down the berlin wall. you know, the great thing about carson in the old days and letterman is the ability to be impromptu. sure they have a script but all that craziness right there was
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reaction to what i said, i think. >> one thing that makes me very excited about colbert is that he really does have a quick agile mind. and, you know, he can. >> he's an improv guy. i think that can make him really brilliant in interviews. i realry just hope they don't make him boring. that goes beyond politics, although i don't really want them to gut the politics of him, but if i sit down some night and see stephen colbert saying to somebody i hear you brought a clip with you, i'm just going to die inside a little bit. >> the old carson line was where you living out here? do you like watching yourself in the movies? larry king or somebody. do you like watching yourself in the knew? anyway, a major turning point for both colbert and the media was the 2006 white house
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correspondents dinner. george w. bush, colbert mercilessly mocked him to his face. let's watch. >> the greatest thing about this man is he's steady, you know where he stands. he believes the same thing wednesday that he believed on monday. no matter happened tuesday. events can change, this maen's belief never will. nothing satisfied you. everybody asks for personnel changes so the white house has personnel changes. then you write oh, they're just rearranging the deck chairs on the die tannic. first of all, that's a terrible metaphor. this administration is not sinking. this administration is soaring. if anything,ner rearranging the deck chairs on the hindenburg. >> thank you. thank for joining us. up next, paul ryan's democratic gift to the democratic party all
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the republicans running in endangered seats voted for the paul ryan budget. now democrats are going to hold them accountable for those votes including the big cut in medicare.
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udall in colorado. all four voted yay, and democrats plan to make them bay for it. the democrats pushed for pocketbook issues like fay equity and the minimum wage are part of their strategy to draw classes. now we have the ryan budget that can be added to the democratics' budget as they battle to keep the senate in the midterm elections. first of all, i start with the realistic view that a democrats only lose five senate seats this year, they will consider it a pretty good night because there's also a chance of a sweep this year. kelly you're giggling, and i understand why because there's also a chance of a sweep election in a sixth year presidency. how good is voter information that you can get to them in a short ad about how a congressperson votes on something like medicare, which affects the middle class? >> well, here we go again.
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we saw this story in 2012. and the country saw the biggest gender gap in our history over things like the ryan budget. so we're going to go in and talk to women voters. it's already happening today. we're going to talk about the cuts in medicare, cuts in education, on top of it, the number one -- >> you know why medicare is more important to women than men, and give me the graphic answer? because women live a lot longer than men after retirement, that's why. it's there. >> it is true, it is true, and it's incredibly important for women. women are just looking for a fair shot in our economy today. and we're still dealing with a pay gap of 77 kenlts to the dollar. and now we have paul ryan and the republicans again pushing out a budget that dismantles critical programs from health care, education, economic opportunity. telling you, women voters are going to react. we're already seeing it, and our candidates are going to talk about it. >> kelly, how do you turn this around? how do you take a vote for a
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budget which is always a danger because there's so many pieces that can be pointed to and try to win the bigger argument for savings and spending, but your opponent comes back and said, well you cut this, and that matters to people. your thoughts? >> look, chris, it ends up being a classic battle between the shock the conscious sound bite and the sudy of substance, often the sound bite will win, especially if you're scaring people. if you're on medicare, you're going to cut medicare, your grandson' pell grant, but the funny thing about information is people can go online and look this up for themselves. they can decide whether or not it's true at over the next ten years spending $600 million on food stamps, now called the snap program, or increasing medicaid spending by $3.5 trillion, whether they think that's a cut, i will point out the republicans who voted no didn't think this cut spending fast enough, so there are three sitting republican congressmen just in
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georgia, all of whom were 12 no votes, and they said it's because they prefer a budget that goes faster than the ryan budget. i can't let stephanie get away with the 70 cent figure after it's been discredited so much, after the white house revealed they don't pay women as much as men in the white house. just to have an honest conversation, can we stop with the 77 kenlts cents on the doll. >> let stephanie respond to that. kelly ann says there isn't a 23 cent gap. >> she's just wrong. i mean, the facts prove -- >> no, the washington post discredited it. >> but what we're saying is there's a wage gap in this country. and it's real. >> correct. >> kelly ann, do wiomen believe they get paid as much as men? >> no, because they don't. >> all the republican congresswoman and four republican senators said they agree with equal pay for equal work. we all agree with that, but we have to have an honest
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conversation. >> but do we have equal pay right now? >> most women do not. some do if you're unmarried and childless between the age of 35 and 43, you make $1.08 to every male dollar. some industries do better. we just shouldn't fool people into believing that it's one size fits all. i think women should be respected that way, and look, she's absolutely right that women pay more attention to education and the kitchen table economic issues but they have lived through many years now of implementing obamacare, and you look at that for fiscal ends. >> i have to get a reaction to that. why do women vote democrat more than republican? >> because the democrats provide a vision for the future that's given them a fair shot. it's about economic security. it is about equal pay, because the american women on average are making 77 cents to the dollar. >> where is that in the polls? >> kelly ann? >> american women -- >> way down. jobs and the economy are number one. >> you're welcome to fight this
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out. i have no idea how to arbitrate this, but you answered my question, do women think they're getting paid less than men. >> but it was flubbed by the white house this week. and they pay women less in the white house. >> okay, thank you. stephanie and kelly ann. >> we'll be right back after this. ♪
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let me finish tonight with this. i'm a huge fan of stephen
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colbert. he's not only hilarious and brilliant and sharp witted and all that stuff you see on the colbarrett report. i'm talking about him offstage when he's stephen colbert the person. there are, i learned the hard way, all kinds of people in show business and the news business and political commentary. there are who are as stuffed shirt off air as they are on. who have the biggest possible impression of themselves as they are on air. there are also people who big on stage and shy in person. david letterman strikes me that way. you don't really see him if you do the show, before or after the show. he lives for the hour itself. if you're part of that, you're part of him. there are people like jay leno who are pretty much what you would think, as regular and kind actually off camera as they are on. well, as zero said in the movie the front, it's nice when nice happens to a nice person. and in the case of stephen colbert, that could not be more true. he's a good guy who just got the promotion of his life, and i'm glad for him. i really am.
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and as he put it in the newspaper, we'll soon find out how much of him is that stephen colbert character he's been playing with so much fun. and that's "hardball" tonight. thanks for being with us this week. a "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. today, president obama spoke at the annual convention of the national action network, a group founded by my colleague, the reverend al sharpton. for the second day in a row, the president was giving a speech on civil rights at a moment in his presidency when the discussion of race in the obama era has reached an intense crescendo. if yesterday, the president was solemn and diplomatic at the lbj memorial in lbj memorial library in texas, today he was frank and clear and pointed as he took aim at one of the more disturbing political and racial trends of his tenure. a full frontal assault on a