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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall and this is "newsnation" and a profile is emerging of a young man suspected of killing three people, including a young boy at a jewish center in kansas city yesterday in what is described as a hate crime. law enforcement sources say that frazier glenn cross is a hateful leader and a long history of run-ins with the law. and the southern poverty law center which monitors hate groups around the country, they say they have been track iing ts man for years, and he has been involved in the white power movement for nearly his entire life under different aliases.
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the center sued cross in the 1980s for operating an illegal paramilitary group and intimidating african-americans, and now today, a new interview with ktyv tv where he was distributing information from missouri. >> we are fed up, white people are. we are going to take back our country, and we are third-class citizens now. >> well, the deadly shooting unfolded in overland park, kansas city, and it is a quiet suburb, and he opened fire in a parking lot killing a 14-year-old eagle scout, his grandfather, and a retired do doctor. to suspect then ran to a nearby retirement home where the officers say he killed an e elderly woman before he was finally arrested. cross was seen reportedly yell ing anti-semitic comments at the onlookers as he was taken away in the back of the police car.
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hours after the shooting, the neighbors held a vigil at the church. at one point the woman who lost her father and son in the shooting surprised the crowd when she spoke. >> i am the father of the gentleman who was killed, and "tem i'm the mother of the son who was killed. i want to tell you how much i appreciate you all being here. i know that they are in heaven togeth together. >> nbc's ron allen is in overland park with the latest for us. >> tamron, this is just an awful time for this community. a gunman went on a rampage in a quiet community on a sunday afternoon on the eve of passover outside of a jewish community center. he opened fire in the parking lot. inside the community center, there were scores and perhaps 100 high school students in there practicing and rehearsing for the auditions for a singing
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competition to take place at some point, and also a theater production under way, and the gunman open d fed fire in the parking lot, and the grandfather, and the grandson were killed and then the gunman went down the street to another part of the community, and opened fire there out in the parking lot killing one elderly resident of a nursing home, and more shots fired b through are two people who were not injured or hit by the gun fire. it is believed that the gunman had a shotgun and at some point he may have been in possession of a couple of handguns. he was arrested in the parking lot of the elementary school, and police took him in custody, and there he alleged out and smiling at the time and yelling out "heil hitler" and we believe that the alleged gunman is a well known member of the ku klux klan and white supremist who has run for office on many occasions on platforms that are white supreme is cyst. and he is known here, and all of this is going on in the
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background, but what is known is that we will hear more about him as this community tries to understand why he came from some 200 miles away to unleash this violence and death. tamron, back to you. >> ron, thank you. let me bring in the director of the southern poverty law enforcement intelligence unit who has been tracking the suspect's antics for a decade. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> and tell us about the information and the information that the southern poverty law center has on file about him. i know his name is frazier glenn cross, but he has had many aliases. >> well, we have been watching him forever, and he has been involved in nazi movements going back to the '70s and committed white supremist, and he is one of the top ten haters if you were to look at the movement. >> and tell me how you collect data and how someone comes to your attention, and what is the
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process there? >> well, in the case of miller, what we have is somebody who is an activist, and street protests going back to the 1970s and the early 1980s and involved in multiple klan groups and public about it. we sued one of the klan groups in the 1980s when they were threatening african-americans, and so frazier glenn mill ser not hard to track, because he has been so public with the revolutionary ideas and sometimes it is more difficult with these guys. >> you track him because of the ideas he has made clear, and there are a number of publications and we showed that interview where he has made it quite clear where he stands. and do you identify these people as a danger as well? because we well know it is one thing to spew hateful words, but it is another to take it to the point of what he is allegeded of doing which is to take the life of innocent people, including a child. >> look.
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these views, extreme white views, neo-nazi views and anti-semitism which is what mill ser about, and these are the views that drive people over the edge, and this is not the first time that he has been involved in violent activities. he threatened to kill our founder morris dees over the anti-ra anti-racist activities, and so miller has a track record of violence a mile long, but he is symbolic of a lot of people in t the world with most of the domestic terrorist here in the kcountry come from the white supremists and anti-government extremists who live in the same world that frazier glenn miller does. >> and to give people an example on his own words and in his words he said that the forefathers were right to be discriminate against other to ensure race survival, and procreation, and he goes on the say things that i don't want to read out of my mouth, but you track organizations that the southern poverty law center tracks over 900 hate groups, and
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has this information, heidi, before turned over to the local law enforcement, because this man accused of the heinous crime, he is not hiding out, but putting it up on the website, and so much so that your group has tracked him for years? >> yeah, most of the people are not hiding. as long as you know where to look in the case of miller, he was all over the vanguard news site, a hate site, posting over 1,200 times and some are on storm front which is another hate site, and we publish the information to the law enforcement and the public to know where they are, and what they are going to do, and a few of them are dangerous to people as happened in overland park. >> and did the organization see an uptic in his actions, and i don't know how you measure hate, but was there anything to indicate that he would act in the way that the police have
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accused him of? >> well, in terms of the event now, no. but i talked to him in the fall, and the rage of the jews was intense and it is not surprising to me that is who he targeted. >> and thank you for the information related to the case. >> thanks. well, oscar pistorius took the stand for the sixth day with the prosecution paying relentless attention to detail. the prosecutor gerrie nel started to tell pistorius that his version of events was impossible, and started to expose inconsistencies in the story of pistorius. last week he testified that when he heard the intruder he whispered to reeva steenkamp to call the cops, but today, his story changed. >> i whispered, my lady. >> and if somebody said that you whispered that person would be
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lyi lying? >> yes, my lady. >> and do you know who that person is? >> no, my lady. >> it is you. you said that. >> then i made a mistake, my lady. >> and joining me is legal analyst lisa green, and what do you make of the prosecutor tripping up oscar pistorius in his own words and his own testimo testimony. >> well, last week the prosecutor was admonished for calling pistorius a liar and undaunted and tried a lot of different approaches, but he made a lot of headway in dismantling pistorius's series of events. >> and why was it significant if he whispered or not. >> it is right alongside the l.e.d. light, and reeva's jeans, and it all goes to the central issue, credibility. after the trial, the judge and two assistants will be forced to think about the events as told by the only living witness, pistorius. and the better chance the pros
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cue cuetor dismantles his story, the better he will have. >> and let's listen to the back and forth about reeva steenkamp's jeans. >> and isn't it true that she wanted to get dressed and leave, and that is why the denim were out of place? >> well, my lady, the denims is inside out, and that makes sense that she took them off and left them on the floor. >> i'm saying, and to state the case, mr. pistorius, that she wanted to leave, and that you weren't sleeping. you were both awake. >> that is not correct, my lady. that is untrue. >> and that there was an argument. >> that is not true, my lady. >> you heard that, the explanation or the detail in which they discussed the jeans.
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again, lisa, why is this important? >> well, i think that the prosecutor is after two things here. one again going to pistorius's credibility and challenging every step his version of the events and another thing, tamron, running the clock. this prosecutor is in no rush to be done with the witness, taand the more he rattles him, and the more breaks he takes and the t better he contradicts himself, the better for the state's case. >> and one question is regarding whether or not they had dinner, and oscar pistorius said that he and reeva had dinner eight hours before the incident, but the medical examiner said within two hours, and contradicting all of the events that evening when they went to bed. let's play that part. >> why would there still be food in the stomach? >> i am not sure, my lady. >> because you were awake. there can can be no other explanation. >> my lady, me being awake has nothing to do with reeva cease stomach contents. i don't know. i mean, i don't know. if she ate again, i don't know.
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what i am saying is that we ate just after 7:00 and it has nothing to do with me being awa awake. >> and this is lisa, surrounding the time line? >> yes, and to his credibility, and another thing going successfully for the prosecution is hopscotching around, and keep keeping pistorius off of his guard throughout the day, and you could see that something else that the prosecutor did was to seem amenable to the his story, and then abrupt short, and so you are seeing a master class in unnerving a witness giving testimony. >> thank you, lisa. and now to the escalating crisis in ukraine where the k country's president is threatening an operation against the pro russian militants who have seized government buildings in eight cities in eastern ukraine. the acting president set a deadline of this morning for the militants the retreat, but the the deadline has passed and instead, the militants defiantly attack
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attacked and seized more buildings today, including this police station where they raised the russian flag. they also called on vladimir putin to defend them against ukrainian forces. meantime, at an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council last night called at russian's request, pointed the fi finger at moscow for the unrest we are seeing in eastern ukraine. >> we know who is behind this, and indeed, the only entity capable of these coordinated professional military actions is russia. the synchronized surgical seizure of buildings yesterday occurred in towns along the main highway and followed by armed roadblocks as if there is a barrier formed between kiev and the eastern cities. >> joining me live is "time" magazine chief of foreign affairs michael crowley, and so thank you for your time. >> yes, thank you, tamron. >> and we have new information that the cia is not denying that
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john brennan was in ukraine over the last few days, but he is saying that he is there to advice the ukrainian officials to koucounteract, and this is important, because some are blaming the u.s. for what we are seeing in the escalation of the violence. >> well, the u.s. is not denying that, and if it is true, it is a useful talking point for the russians, because what they are trying to do is to claim that what is happening in ukraine, and the revolution in kiev was a western-backed operation, and the events are being imposed on the people by westerners, and o outsiders and russia is trying to stake the claim and authority to having a protective role here fighting off foreign influences. >> well, it is interesting, michael, because a lull as far as this being the headline story. and not to say that it should not have been certainly, but over the weekend, we see this
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video coming in, the confrontation seemingly escalated at the time when vice president bide zen n is going t visit ukraine, and it was two weeks ago that president vladimire called president ob a obama, and so behind the scenes, some believe that there was some positive events happening that we were not perhaps privy to. >> well, right. here's the cynic's take on this saga so faring which i think has some substantiation is that russia has done a good job of creating the pretensive diplomacy of the negotiations possibility off a breakthrough, and putin sends his foreign minister lavrov to say, don't worry, we won't do what people say we will do, and then putin does it. and one point kerry talked to lavrov and he called back to
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moscow, and putin would not take the call, and so some of the diplomacy and what you are hearing from moscow is a masquerade to allow more time for the russians to execute their plan, and foment real unrest in eastern ukraine or to potentially send troops across the border, and it is not clear. >> and senator mccain asked about the obama administration's response to this event, and the elusion of diplomacy and the stall of time depending upon the perspective, but this is his reaction on "face the nation" yesterday. >> we ought to at least for god sake give them some weapons with light weapons to defend themselves. so far this administration has not only not done that, but they won't share some intelligence with the ukrainian government. i can tell you from my conservations of people within the government, they feel abandoned by us, and rightfully so. >> and so senator mccain is
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saying that those within the ukrainian government feel abandoned, but what are the option options at this point, michael? >> well, it would be an option to send arms to the ukrainians, but it is not a likely scenario, because the obama administration wanted to stays a wway from the military conflict, and shooting war and american involvement in confrontation, and the issues are economic. we have applied light and targeted sanctions on moscow, and the people around putin, at this point, and we could substantially escalate them, and you would start to talk about economic sectors like energy, mining, banking. potentially do harm to a russian e con mae is pretty wobbly right now, and the problem is blow back. damage to american businesses and economic interests, and more so european ones, and we would have to get the europeans on board, and so it is a test of will to get the firm sanctions
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in place, and that is the more likelier scenario, and senator mccain is in the small minority supplying the arms and anything with the whiff of a military interventi intervention. >> thank you, michael crowley. >> thank you for having me. and up next, the push for answers of why california police mistakingly killed the producer of a popular movie tosh monroe. >> we saw the stewardess with a lot of confusion, and then the flight attendant came down. >> and passengers tackled a man after he tried to open up the door. and plus, what are your chances of getting audited by the irs? we have the answer and one thing that you should know before the tax deadline and you can join the conversation on twitter, and
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federal investigators are learning more about the deadly crash involving a fedex truck and a bus carrying high school students. the ntsb says they have not found any evidence to confirm the witness's claims that the truck was on fire before it slammed into the bus. investiga investigators have also located the black box-type device on the bus, however, the more critical device on the truck was insen rated on the fire. and ntsb officials also say that there were also no skid marks from the truck indicating that the driver net hit the brakes. in an interview with nbc news, 18-year-old student miles davis disputed the cliaim that the bu
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was on fire. >> i could hear the screams of the people burning alive inside, and they were screaming i don't want to die. it was not in flames. it caught on fire -- >> excuse me, he was saying that he was disputing that the fedex truck was on fire. and the driver was one of ten people killed in thursday's accident. well, people in west hollywood, california, are demanding answers over the shooting death of an unarmed man after the deputies mistook him for a suspect in a hostage situation. last thursday, the l.a. county sheriff's office said they made a fatal mistake of killing john winkler who worked on "tosh 100. "
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"as an assistant producer. deputies admitted thursday, they mistook winkler as the suspect and opened fire, and he was shot four times and died at the hospital. the real suspect was later apprehended and behind bars, and the investigation is still ongoing late yesterday, and the residents held this vigil in hoc honor of the man shot, and demanding accountability. michelle, i have been reading details of this over the weekend and it is perplexing how this is happening, but it sounds like winkler was rushing in to help his friend, and how did the deputies confuse him for the suspect? >> well, it appears tamron that he was apparently looked the same as the suspect description was wearing a dark colored shirt, and just as the person who called 911 had described and as the deputies were on the scene, that is when he, john winkler, and another person, a
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they were rushing out, and according to investigatorinvest i spoke to them this morning the men aggressed the deputies which mean s they were rushing to get help, and it appear -- it appeared because there was blood and confusion and they were behind him they mistook him for the alleged assailant inside of the building and it was not until the deputies got inside that they found the suspect they had been looking for from the beginning allegedly choking another man. >> and the l.a. county interim sheriff john scott said in the quote, taking the life of an innocent person is a police officer's greatest nightmare. >> absolutely. >> and do we know of those involved what is the status involved at that point? the officers involved in this shooting? >> i spoke with the sergeant from the l.a. county sheriff's office who said that the 100% conclusion of this case could take a while, and of course, there is going to be an investigation, and look at the
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911 calls, and the surveillance in the area, and how it went down, and there was con conflicting reports that john winkler was inside of the apartment, and then other reports that he went rushing inside to help people with screams, and so there is conflicting information and it is going to be taking awhile to sort it out. it is horrific, and of course, no police aofficer or deputy anywhere would want to harm an innocent person, and this is tragic. this is a guy going after the true hollywood dream, and he wanted to be a producer, and director and living in washington, and he made the trip down the los angeles. he was a production assistant at 30 years old and working to get up the ladder when his life was so tragically taken. >> and to the point of the aspirations, the uncle said that he was kind and funny and bright wit and kind word for anyone that he met. comedian daniel tosh sent out the statement on twitter said that he had a privilege to work with him for a short while, and we extend our sympathy to his
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family and friends. and obviously, the investigation will continue, because some answers need to be provided to this grieving family. >> and up next, there is a crick sh -- curriculum between students and teachers. some parents say that the standardized tests just stress out students and teachers. and this one -- mirac mythological -- >> he did not win because he mispronounced achilles. it is the "news nation" gut check. . by eating kellogg's raisin bran®. not only is kellogg's raisin bran® heart healthy it's a delicious source of potassium. ♪
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teaching to learn and then you can take the any test that you want. >> it is stressful to spend all of the time preparing for the tests and not studying regular academic stuff, and i feel like it is a waste of time. >> well, parents on new york's long island expressing objections to the core curriculum to set uniform learning across the states. they say that the con troer ver si started after the standards started to express what skills students should have in math and reading and develop more critical thinking skills than traditional school work, but a growing concern of core groups including politicians on both sides of the aisle, and parents and teachers and among those concerns is nationalizing the ernlgication, and the result of it all, and adding more tests for students. joining me is randy wine garden
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from the federation of teachers. and i want to talk about that, but first we have to talk about the common core curriculum, and the fact that it is so controversial, and we had the teacher town hall with the education nation, and so many teachers feeling abandoned and not properly being trained for this, and you compared the roll out of this to some of the worst parts of the roll out for the health care law. >> exactly right. so, look, i called last april after we saw the first itration of these testing, i called for a moratorium. kids need problem solving and critical thinking skills which is essential for career and college, but it is es ssential r life, so the idea behind the common core is a good idea, but implementation is 99% of the battle, and just like we have seen with obama care.
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so what has happened is that states like new york rushed to test both last year, and this year, and then used those tests for promotional decisions for kids and for teacher evaluations as opposed to giving the teachers the time to really prepares because this is different. for the past ten years, we have been doing rote memorization in schools, and critical thinking and problem solving is important, but you have to do the preparation, and this year, and evidently the tests for new york state for elementary kids were developmentally inappropriate, confusing, and did not actually even apply the standards well. so then even the people who liked the standards like liz philips the great principal from ps 21 is saying, wait a second, what are you doing to the children? >> and it is interesting as well that you have the other tract of complaints from parents who say that their kids are tested out. karen can kline in the op-ed of "the new york times" says that
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teachers are telling her not to be creative and do some of the things they enjoyed and you enjoyed as well, because it is all about tests. >> so what has happened in the united states of america is we have become fixated and not people, but the policy makers have become fixated on the data score, and the kids are test scores and teachers are algorithms, and it is wrong. you have to have the ways to say, are we progressing? but i would take project-based instr instr instruction any day of the week, and when it is snowing ability for the kids to say, let's talk the about snow right now and how it is created than saying, ooh, no, my pacing guide is saying that i have to be on page three right now, and this is what is wrong with the education in the united states of america, and it does not happen in finland and singapore, but we are intoxicated with the data as a consequence. >> and this is ongoing
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conversation, and that is why we have teacher nation and education nation. and on a less controversial note, tell me about a new program. >> and in july of 2012 we started a website and worked with a private entrepreneur in great britain, because no american entrepreneurs would help us with this as they wanted to make money as opposed to helping the teachers, and they had the technology and we had the know-how and we put together a sharing site for teachers called share my lesson and opened up and launched in july, and almost 500,000 people on it right now, and there have been 5.3 million downloads and over -- >> all sharing the lessons. >> and there is 300,000 pieces of information on it, and it is a treasure trove by teachers for teachers, including things like justin sandra day o'connor has
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civics lessons and we have done that, and lessons of the day with npr, and it is just a matter of filling the void, because the teachers are thirsty for the information and that is why 1,000 people are joining everyday and it is for free. >> and you are shy of 500,000. >> yes. >> and we certainly hope you reach that goal, and as they say it takes a village. >> exactly. >> and thank you so much, and appreciate having you on. >> and the unofficial kickoff to the 2016 race. i think that every republican should have two words tattooed on their hands, growth and opportunity. we cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people, and wall street. >> and the big names like ted cruz and rand paul talk about the future of the party, and more of that coming up in the "first read." and -- linebacker aldon
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diversity of the opinions whether it is foreign policy and the fiscal policy and things like that, but the biggest takeaway from it is just how much the republican party has broken from the bush years, and when you look at the issues brought up, complaints about the common core, and that is an issue that you have that the right does not like right now, and it is an issue that jeb bush actually supports, and so bush, if he decides to run for the presidency in 2016 would have to confront a base that is opposed to the common core, and also very much against a immigration reform, and against the nsa surveillance program that started under bush years and continued in the president obama's presidency, and mike huckabee, the former arkansas governor took a shot of the ntsa with the comparison of the security to north korea in the bush years. and mark, thank you, and we will
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an unruly passenger forces an emergency landing which tops the stories around news nation today. it happened aboard a southwest airlines bound for california. passengers say that a man tried to open up a rear exit door mid flight so he could jump out. three men were able to restrain him. >> we basically tackled the, the i don't want to say gentleman, but the guy back there. we pinned him down, and he was
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going to do bad things to the plane, and so it was pretty scary. >> and the pilot was forced to divert the plane, and land in nebraska where the air marshals escorted him to the plane. and by the way, it is physically impossible to open up a plane door mid flooiight. and san francisco 49ers linebacker aldon smith is in trouble with the law by saying that he had a bomb going through los angeles international airport. he was belligerent when he was randomly chosen for a second screening. and winter system cog or back, and did it ever leave? these are pictures earlier, and that is a "game of thrones" reference if you did not know that, and this is the scene that was not good, and for some people through oklahoma and up through michigan and a snowy mix of things. and tonight, some tornadoes are possible, and this is a individual oaf what appears to be a fubl cloud in lovelady,
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texas. several buildings were damaged, but no injuries reported. we will keep you up to date on this severe weather. and have you picked up a magazine or tuned into any entertainment program lately, you will notice fewer images of sb celebrity children. many have pledged to scale back on the paparazzi photos of kids. the movement comes on the heels of a any law in california which makes it a crime for photographers to harass celebrity children. and it is a law that is coming after many are challenging the boundaries of stars. and now we are joined by the jennifer biehl smith who has spent years as a photographer, and written the book "shooting stars" and we have been waiting to talk to you for a couple of
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days, and we have had breaking ne news, and now here we are, and the next question is that you have some celebrities who want the attention by the paparazzi, and some pop up all of the time, and i have even heard that some call you and tip you off, and then they pretend that they don't want you off, and what is the truth there? >> well, the celebrity s thies you see week after week want it or they don't mind it. and the biggest one right now is kim kardashian and she makes 60% on her photos. >> even paparazzi photos. >> so it is difficult for me to feel sorry for them. >> and you are saying, even the paparazzi photos that kim kardashian makes money off of them? >> yes. >> and a lot of them do, and not what all of them, but some of
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them do set-up jobs either for the promotion or paid a percentage. and tori spelling is another one who does it. when i photographed lindsay lohan, and britney spears and all of the reality show people, and they are all doing the set-up jobs. >> and i love that you name the name, and somebody whose name starts with a k, but you are putting it right out there. >> and what is about writing this book and giving us a glimpse into your world? >> well, from the first day i started, i wrote. i was a journalist before doing this job, and i had nothing to do with the paparazzi. it was like so powerful, and so surreal, that i just could not write about it. it was such an unusual, amazing situation coming across celebrities in this environment day after day. >> and especially these days, there seems to be a love/hate with the paparazzi, and with the celebrity coverage of some of the people, even though the magazines sell, you know, quickly, and the people are glued to the entertainment
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shows. i'm curious what you think about the new debate of whether the celebrity children or children of celebrities should be photographed. what is your take onyeah, i'm am a mother. so anything that protects kids, i'm for. but i also think that the information that's out there is misinformation. in three years as a paparazzi, i never ever heard a celebrity trashed by the paparazzi. i never ever heard it with a kid or without a kid. when kids are present, we're extremely respectful. we're always using long lenses -- >> is that true? you may be but i've seen some of the video and they are chasing down people and there seems to be aggressive tactics. i've seen video of halle berry, for example, she's saying get away from my kid and maybe not you but others who see this as a quick way to make cash if they
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sell it to any outlet. >> yeah, i mean, again, my experience is that we're always giving them space. now what halle berry is saying when she says leave me alone, don't photograph me, we don't leave. that is true. so you know, we're still going to be there taking the picture. whether we take the picture respectfully, i think we do. i think we're using long lenses and not harassing them and saying anything mean. we want them smiling xgt the b tabloids to do buy people angry looking celebrities. >> i've seen more than enough video and pictures of kanye west and others reaching for the lens and those are splattered everywhere. someone is buying it. >> there's a few of that but part of the bread and butter, 95% of what we're getting are pretty happy celebrities with a
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smile on their face. i can't tell you how many times we shot celebritied yelling at us and covering their faces an they don't go anywhere. a big story like kanye west which is a joke since his wife or fiance calls us, when he tries to attack us, that's going to be a story. generally speaking, they want it to look like we're all cooperating so people buying the magazines feel like we're one big happy family. i talk about that and sort of the behind the scenes like mind and voyeurism and what people want in magazines. >> jennifer you're telling your side of it in your new book. we certainly appreciate you joining us. quite a hot topic there. i'm sure kim kardashian is about to call you in a second. we'll be right back. he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. huh the citi thankyou preferred card.
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