four people are dead and close to 300 more are missing after a ferry sank in cold waters near jeju island. they are scrambling to save more than 320 students on a field trip. and now at last report, 164 people have been rescued, but it is not clear what caused the deadly accident. jeff cain from the global post is in seoul for us, and what are you hearing from the latest of the rescue operations, jeff, and night has fallen, yes? >> yes. night has fallen and rescue operation is ongoing and over 300 missing and there is no word as of what is going on now. we do know that they departed from a port on the east coast outside -- sorry, on the west coast of south korea, and going down the jeju for the holiday.

it is not so bad, and it is today, the weather was quite fine, and so, this capsizing, this sinking was a surprise. and what we know now is that the students are reporting that when the ship capsized, there was a loud noise and it started sinking, and that is when the ships called for its s.o.s. signal, and this is when they had to leave the boat. >> give us a sense of how many hours it has been since this capsize happened, what the water temperature is which tells us about the possibility of the survivability, and what you might be hearing from the rescuers about their prospects they think for rescuing a lot of the folks. >> well, the entire incident started at 9:00 a.m. today, and that is when the firsts so ss signal went out, and then some false reports that everybody had been rescued on the ship, but it turned out that it was simply not true, and then the

government put out an estimate that 100 people were missing and then said that this number was actually incorrect because of the calculation error, and now the number has been raised to almost 300 people missing. it is about 290. there is not much word yet on the survivability. the weather here in korea has been quite good today. on this particular route, it is a daily route from the jingo to jeju islands. it is possible that it would be cancelled by bad weather, but it is surprising that it came out of nowhere. >> and so 14 hours now, and geoff, you will keep us posted

from the "global post" and again, we will update you throughout the hour as we get more information. and meantime, a huge political story to tell you about this morning. michael bloomberg is taking on the nra head-on, and in is a monumental battle involving millions of dollars and with incredible confidence on both sides h. this is the big development this morning n. a push to reignite the fight in guns over mark, the former new york mayor and billionaire businessman is offering a $150 million dollar effort to push the effort. and notice the phrasing here which is reminiscent about a wartime strategy. >> this is not about dollars, but the hearts and the minds of americans to protect our children and the innocent people. if you take a look at the number of people who use illegal guns to commit suicide or the number of people who kill people every year, we are the only civilized country in the world who has

this problem. >> going after the hearts and the mindser and for bloomberg, it is a new umbrella lobbying organization, and new lobby for banning guns and with a particular eye to get women and mothers to join the push. and joining us is collin abbott who is now part of bloomberg's every gun for every town group, and he is also a survivor of the virginia tech shootings. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> and i am aware that this is the 7th anniversary of the shooting. there was columbine before your s and aurora and yours to name a few, and no major reforms, and help us to set the stage for somebody who is affected by this and who is working in the gun fight. what is going on and where are we in terms of it and the nra? >> well, i think that this effort for common sense gun safety legislation is at a strongest point it has been at since the jim and sarah brady

were doing this in the 1990s. and so now we will have mayors against illegal guns, and we have close to 1,000 mayors and chapters of moms lobbying in the capital for the first time and changing the equation not only with the $50 million for the campaign, but mark and gabby giffords fund raising with the superpacs to change this dynamic issue that has been stuck so long. and the officials elected today were the ones before newtown, and we need several major election cycles to pass, because the elections and the calculations are different in the politicians minds, because if you poll, you will see that 90% of the public supports a background check. and that is before newtown. >> and now, put this in context, because mayor bloomberg says

this is not about money, but $50 million talks. why now is different? >> because it is building a grass roots effort and not money from the top. and i know that we did not get the mansion to me background check, but we had a number of senators to vote for it, and in for t normal dem kra i ises that what you need. and today, in the house of representatives, you have the background check with more than 90 cosponsors and more than any other policy bill has had in this country, and now with the focus of the grass roots engaging at the local level, this is the outcome that we need ultimately nik the chan lly to that we need on the local level. >> and how do you fire them up, and on par with some of the gun lobbyists, and i say this as someone who has covered a number of these and spent time with the families of the victims and the nra has not spoken to this, but there is a reaction from the gun owners of america who said about michael bloomberg, i guess that he is free to do so and he has

money to waste, but frankly, i think that he is going to find out why his side keeps losing and how do you get the passion on your side, because you know better than anybody the passion on the side of the advocates for guns? -- all right. we seem to have lost contact and i want to than collin goddard, and i want to bring in our panel. we have malika henderson, a report reporter for the washington post, and josh barro of "the new york times". and if you look at what did not get done on the hill, the list is on and on and on and although they were putting a ban on the plastic firearms, they were not going the ban the methodal parts to get through, and that would allow it to get through a medal detector at an airport. and $50 million effort, and michael bloomberg has had

success in getting some things done, and particularly in new york city, and as well as in business and could it be a game-changer? >> well, it is an open question. the issue is what you described. a big intensity gap on this issue. a lot of the gun control measures that poll well, but people who support them don't go into the voting booth to vote on that specific issue. you have advocates for the gun ownership who care about that issue and vote on it and political activists on it and that is why they are continuing to win. and what mike bloomberg has said is that while the national efforts have failed, he is involved in c kro where his side has lost in local races where they have been beaten by the nra and so he is seeing they need to build the grass roots support. the question is how to build it from the top. and they say it is not top-down effort, but with $50 million, it is almost has to b. and what is clever is that they have the

activatable base of people available to them. >> and governor bloomberg believes that women in particular, and mothers, can be the game-changer, and looking at something like madd that completely changeded the way that we look at sort of the societal thing, and in fact, the found oref that organization has written about changing a debate, and society no longer considers drunk driving socially acceptable, and at long last, drunk drives are forced to take responsible for their acts, because of a fed-up public. and frankly, the madd didn't have the constitutional right to get drunk and get behind the wheel, and so how does bloomberg get mothers behind this effort, and go g door ing door-to-door hands. >> it is that effort, and we talk about the gun control laws the national and the federal level, but much of the activity is in the state and the statehouses there.

there are hundreds of gun control laws debated. some would toughen them, a and some weaken them. so there is a real energy there that michael bloomberg wants to tap into, but when you think about the $50 million, you think of the 50 states, that money does not look like a lot of money, if you are trying to activate is a base and create a base of people in these variant states. face it, there is a real cultural divide here. you have some states obviously controlled by the democratic legislator thes or they have democratic governors and those are the states that have made progress in terms of proffering gun control legislation like new york and california and other states who want to roll back the restriction restrictions, and so what does he does? well, they are not going to take kindly to going to new york and fidle with the gun laws? >> well, we got some evidence of it, and he was on the today

show, and he talked about it to "the new york times" as he was announcing the $50 million, and he is trying to reframe the debate much like madd did as a moral issue. when he talks about it, he says it is similar to the fight of obesity and big gulp drinks, and he says i am telling you that if there is a god, when i get to heaven, i'm not stopping to be interview interviewed. i am heading straight in. i have earned my place in heaven. it's not even close. >> and he is so modest. >> yes. >> and he is rightfully proud of the public health record in new york, and a lot to change people's minds about the things like smoking and obesity, and trying to replicate can it here, but that quote shows the problem with the effort. the bloomberg brand does not sell as well outside of new york city as within it.

>> and he was asked about that, and he said that wherever i go, people are yelling positive things. >> well, in new york, but not north carolina or south carolina, i'm sure. >> and when he has gone into the states like colorado, they say h this is mike bloomberg trying to come in here with his money from new york and trying to tell you what to do, and that is what he is doing, and he has a strong argument of what to do, and people don't like to be told what to do. so if he wants to reframe it as a moral debate, he has to come off less than mike bloomberg coming in to scold you for too many guns. >> and one more thing, malika, he is seeming like he is ready to be patient. we have seen what has happened over the years, and i can tell you that somebody who has spent a long time at columbine, and aurora and newtown and you will have a sense in the middle of it that it is going to change, and then you realize how powerful the nra and those forces are.

and he is willing piece by piece, and to take pit on slowly, and you wonder if he starts with the background checks which has the most support in all of the proposals. >> yes. >> and that is the way to start to change the equation. >> well, that is right. and you know, if you look at the history of the national gun control laws, it starts with fits and starts. it started after jfk was murdered an even after that, it took a couple of years. so bloomberg is right to think about it in a piece by piece way. another thing that people are talking about is the mental illness component, and that looks like it would be something of it most people can come to some agreement around, across both sides of the aisle. and you have president obama looking at the executive action to do that. >> and i don't want to be the naysayer here, but i have covered this so closely, and the truth of the matter is that after newtown and post 9/11 is the most emotional of the kun

t country, and a bunch of little kids gunned down in their school, and what a lot of of the republicans and the some more conservative democrats had to say is that this is not about guns, but it is about that we have to address the mental health issue in the country. there was widespread c conversation about that, and what got done? nothing. >> nothing at the federal level, you are right. some of the local communities in the states that things did get done. i think that if bloomberg can sort of ride that wave, you know, pick his spots, and not only in terms of the issues, but the states where he thinks that he can make a difference of the $50 million, and some progress in the way that bloomberg wants it to happen might happen. again, the nra is a formidable force and formidable force because the democrats very much are in the pocket of the nra and they didn't want to vote against the nra, and so it is an uphill battle. >> and it is going to be an epic

battle. thank you, both. >> thank you. >> thank you. and checking the news feed, oscar pistorius is off of his seat, and back into the seat with his head in his hands. when thinking back of shooting his girlfriend reeva steenkamp, he said he thought that she was an intruder. the trial was originally supposed to take three weeks, and we are now in week seven. after tomorrow though, they take a two-week break so that the attorneys can work on their other cases. and that robotic submarine searching for the wreckage of flight 370 is back into the water to dday. they had technical issues to abort the operation, and the same thing happened yesterday in what was supposed to be a 16-hour search. they were able to download the da data, but it did not hold anything of significance. >> and hours after honoring the victims of the boston bombing victims, suspicions renewed as

police had to detonate two suspicious backpacks left at the finish line. police say that one backpack was inadvertently left behind by new england cable news which is owned by our parent company nbc universal and the second was belonging to this man shortly thereafter, and police say it was containing with a rice cooker similar to what was involved a year ago and this came on an emotional day honoring the people involved and including the officer who was shot. a lot of us had to dig out the winter gloves and coats. people from the mid atlantic to the northeast woke up to a cold coating on the ground, and check out the windchills across the northern part of the country, and this is a shock, because a few days ago the mercury was pushing 80. thanks with pro russian forces and carrying the russian flag went into eastern ukraine.

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coming up later in the hour. this morning the pictures tell a story of the worsening crisis in ukraine as secretary of state john kerry heads to geneva to talk to among others the russian foreign minister the. ukraine is trying to fight back against what they see as pro-russian forces. you can see the tanks and the specialized ukrainian forces who are taking back a small airfield, and here, you can see the ukrainian vehicles with the russian flags and switching sides to the pro-russian controlled areas. jim maceda joining me in slovyansk, ukraine. what are you hearing? >> well, we are just leaving slovyansk, and one of the towns of ukraine and now it is the people's republic of donetsk, and now those people are occupied by the insurgents for

the past number of days. now we passed a park which was surreal, and probably five or six armored personnel carriers and a small and thek that were kind -- and a small tank on display and the soldiers dressed in the khaki uniforms, and they were taking pictures with the local friends so they clearly came from the area. we were told by the soldiers or the paramilitaries that they were part of the defecting ukrainian military unit that had left overnight that operation that you mentioned and come and donetsk, and said to ourselves and others that they could not go on shooting their own people, and so they defected with the armored vehicles. today, they were met at this town by cheering locals and at least some of the troops said

they were part of the 25th airborne brigade which is a ukrainian movement, and part of the operation that happened yesterday. when we asked them what they were going to do next? they said that they were not afraid of the ukrainian military at all and only if the west were to join in, and in which case they would ask for help from russia and i said, doesn't that look like world war iii, and they said, well, we don't want world war iii, but we are prepared to protect our people and our nation. back to, you chris. >> jim maceda there in ukraine. and let me well come in am b ambassador burns. good morning. >> morning. >> and until yesterday, you could say that the ukrainian deployment was cautious, but now you heard what jim said about the defecting military unit and them saying, look, we could not shoot at our own people anymore, and give us the assessment of what is happening on the ground right now? >> well, it is a high-stakes

situation, and problematic, and challenging for the ukrainian government, because they don't want to overreact or create a situation of violence, because then the russians would have a reason, president putin, to enter eastern ukraine, but they are sovereign. this is part of the country, and armed gangs of men, lawless men have taken own the government buildings throughout the eastern part of ukraine, and the ukrainian government needs to establish law and order and take possession of the buildings to show that they can maintain civil order in ukraine, so there is an interesting balancing act and test that the ukrainian government has to be moving. and we are looking at the pernicious policies of russia. they are claiming that the ethnic rights of the ukrainians are violating theirthnic

russians, and so that is not what is actually happening here. surreal is the word of the correspondent, and yes, that is the correct word. >> and yes, vladimir putin has a view of the situation which is pretty much at odds with everybody else in the world. i thought that in the washington post david ignatius posed a big picture question. reading from the article, for obama, this is an existential crisis about maintaining a rules based international order. i wonder if sometimes, and people have trouble maybe getting interested in this, in a part of the world that does not seem that relevant to them, but is this a huge reason that americans should care that this is precedent-setting time, because if putin gets away from what he wants, what is to stop others from doing what they want? >> well, david ignatius is a smart guy, and he is right. the reason that americans need to be interested is that europe is the largest trading partner, and largest inves to, and home

of the largest nato, and for the last quarter of century, we have been working with the peaceful, and the stable and united europe. and now you have new lines being drawn, and the cold war passions coming back, and a leader like putin taking the territory by brute force. we have to react to this. president obama has made absolutely the right decision by not making it into a military duel between the u.s. and russia, but can we push back to putin to raise the costs of what he is doing, and should we engage in tougher sanctions? i would say yes. and should we impose more forces into latvia and other countries to show putin that he cannot run rampant through europe to destabilizing people's countries, and taking territory in a 18th century way. so the stakes are high for the u.s. we need to lead here the nato

alliance. >> and can i ask you briefly to do something which is impossible which is to get into vladimir putin's head, and the other thing that david ignatius did is to lay out options for putin and all bad for the u.s. lean towards ukraine, and then lean to the annex of ukraine, and then invasion, and using the pretext of civil war which is something that you talk ed abou. what do you think that putin is going to do here? >> i imagine that the strategy is to weaken and hollow out the ukrainian government from within, and delegitimize it, and then gain effective russian control over the eastern parpt of ukraine without having to put 40,000 or 50,000 troops on the ground. that is why you will see the propaganda from moscow, and the armed gangs of russians trying to destabilize eastern ukraine. that is an easier play for putin, but in tenhe end, he wan

a ukraine not attached, but he wants them to be a buffer state the way of georgia and armenia and belarus are around the federation in the 20th century zero-sum world he is living in. that is a decisive strategy, and we have not yet responded to the it adequately. >> ambassador nicolas burns, thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> and coming up, a newly posted video showing al qaeda's number two greeting a large crowd. how concerned should we be? and defending the dems, president obama and idea making a tag team road trip, and will that make a mid-term health insurance difference? before it even starts? what if i eat the wrong thing? what if? what if i suddenly have to go? what if? but what if the most important question is the one you're not asking? what if the underlying cause of your symptoms is damaging inflammation?

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of militants in yemen including the second in command. and officials tell nbc news that right now, nothing is in the gathering to plotter errorist attacks against any target. let me bring in the pentagon correspondent, jim mick la chef ski. >> well, it is reminiscent of osama bin laden out there in the desert with al qaeda. and they say that there is no planning of the targets in the works, but in this case, this meeting featured the number two of al qaeda, nasser al wahishi who was named two of al qaeda a few months ago, and in the video, it is seen that he is said greeting up to 100 militants who escaped a prison

there in yemen back in february. now, many questions have been raised why didn't the cia, u.s. intelligence services military spot this meeting, and if they did spot it, and we don't know that they did, but if they were aware of it, why wasn't there a drone strike? u.s. officials say that under the new rules in terms of the launching of the drone strikes against targets particularly there in yemen where civilians have been killed by u.s. drone strike strikes, there are new rules that make it far more difficult for the cia to launch the attacks on a spur of the moment pay sis, and in -- moment basis, and in a crowd like that, you have to be aware that everybody in the crowd had to be deserved to be killed, if you will, in a u.s. operation. and so oh, there they are, and pull the trigger tha.

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the road for a rare joint appearance to push the administration's new jobs training program all happening at a community college in pennsylvania. offensive strategy for the white house playing a lot of defense with the midterms looming. joining me now from the center for american progress, democratic strategist daniella, and republican strategist hogan gidley. >> daniella, we know that the republicans are scoring points with the opposition of obamacare, and obviously, the democrats believe they have a better strategy, so call it proactive, is it effective? >> well, any time you are the president out there in front of the american people creating job s, it is offensive or whatever you want to call it. americans are tired of the gridlock that they are seeing from washington, and the republicans in congress are obsessed the trying to overturn the affordable care act, but

what they want to see is concrete steps for the improvement of their daily lives and i applaud them. i know that we have been working a lot at the foundation of the programs being rolled out today, and so people are going to be saying finally, people are out here talking about what we want to talk about which is jobs. >> and it was not that long ago that if you talked to the democratic strategists, they didn't think it was going to be enough time to turn around the bad press from the hca, and particularly in the districts that it makes a difference, you will see the democrats not running away from it, but the republicans continuing to hit it on and can it continue to be a inning with strategy, and does the administration now have a smart counter? >> well, it can be a winning strategy, but it remains how much of a campaign can focus on the obamacare.

there is a difference in each state. the president is being smart and going out to talk about the shops, and it does not matter if it is the fifth pivot to jobs and middle american incomes have been losing money, and the disparity of the haves and the have nots have grown under this presidency, it is irrelevant, because he is using the bully pulpit of the presidency to use it. i am not saying it is warranted or not, but it is effective. he won't go into north carolina to campaign with kay hay ginn or landrieu in louisiana or in arkansas, so he is going around the country to talk about the job jobs and not focusing on the negatives of his own administration or the downfall of the things that have hurt the democrats, but focusing on the republican brand. i have seen him in the speeches. he is outstanding and bebops and scats all over the crowds, and

gives great coaches and loves it, and he is using the pulpit the way it should be used in the presidency to build the party, but instead of focusing on the 30,000 foot view, we don't know if it will yield the results in the individual campaigns in the states, but we will see it in november. >> and it is so interesting and i wonder what you any about that, daniella, because you are not seeing a big clamor in some of the places for the president to come there to visit, and people in tough races. there is a new campaign ad in louisiana with mary landrieu, and it is a forceful ad, but it is not like she is saying, please, mr. president, come down here i'm in a tight race. what about hogan had to say. >> well, a lot of is is correct, but naturally, i disagree with a lot of it. the fact that he is not campaigning in all states is not a surprise, because he is not doing a 30,000 ethereal type

event, because he is talk about the concrete plans working with real businesses and labor unions and businesses alike at the local level with the local community colleges and universities and saying that these are the jobs that are open, and people looking for jobs and connect them. there is not anything theoretical about it. it is real and concrete. >> and what are the chances, daniella, and give me the prospects for the democrats holding the senate. >> well, it is going to be hard, and there is not anybody on the show who would come in and say it is a cakewalk. it is going to be difficult. if the republicans want to continue to beat down the affordable care act and talk about how to take away affordable coverage for millions of americans most democrats would welcome it. >> and hogan, how optimistic are you feeling, because when i asked that to daniella, and you got a little look on your face and pardon me if i am offending you, but it looked smug. >> look, i don't know if we are doing take back the senate, but we have a great chance and if we can step on ourselves, we have

proven we will do it, but the demographics are that there are two more registered republicans than democrats, and i know rick santorum very well, and he is doing to be a very good reception. i worked for elizabeth dole in 2008 and we lost that re-elect to kay hagan who is going to lose this next time around, and george bush was so toxic in north carolina we refused to do an event with him in lieu of doing an event with dick cheney and somebody that the left hates more than george w. bush and so that the presidents in the second term, this is not a new thing for them, but the democrats are doing a good job to getting around how damaging obamacare has been in the states by focusing on the republican brand, a fand he sticks to that, he is going to make up ground that has been lost to the n negativity surrounding obamacare. >> it is a fascinating time in politics no doubt about it. hogan gidley, and daniella

shanks, thank you both. >> thank you. and checking the newsfeed, students are heading back to school at franklin regional high school. it has been a week since a student ran through the hall slashing 21 people in a knife attack killing three of them. grief counselors are going to be on hand. and he is charged with 21 counts of attempted homicide, and three counts of homicide. >> and now eric holder is talking about how concerned he is about legalization of marijuana, and he does not expect it to sweep the country. holder is going to talk about it this afternoon in a national summit on drugs. and he is going to be in kansas city sunday to speak about the shootings victims sunday. and prime minister tony abbott greeted the royal couple

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the finish line. already the judge has denied a pair of motions including one to dismiss some of the charges gai against 20-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev. he faces 18 separate counts for killing four people, an injuring 264 more. the prosecution will seek the death penalty if he is convicted and that is reigniting the debate over capital punishment, and its place in society. join joining me is richard deeter executive director of the death penalty information center, a nonprofit who wants to abolish the death penalty, and attorney general bruce fine who wants to have the death penalty for cases that are indisputable. bruce, let me start with you, because there is a recent poll by the "boston globe" that say that a majority of the bostonians don't want the death penalty for dzhokhar tsarnaev. and the pros ecutors will say that he was influenced by his

o older broer the, but he is a terrorist, and so would you argue that is the best way to get justice in the case and the best way to offer peace to the families? is. >> i don't have all of the facts. the constitution clearly require n s that the government permit a defendant like mr. tsarnaev to introduce whatever mitigating circumstances he believes would justify a lesser penalty. in the case of another man who was convicted in new york for his terrorism attacks, he was sentenced to life rather than death. and so we must see all of the mitigating evidence other than in newspaper reports. >> and there is an emotional component for sure. the prosecutors are accusing him of killing four people, but you saw the tribute yesterday, and we saw some of the 16 people for example who lost limbs, and there is a lot of evidence about

the premeditation here, and the prosecutors say it was a heinous, cruel, depraved manner of committing the offense. so, prosecutors, including the nation's attorney general eric holder who believes it is a death penalty case, what is the argument against? >> well, it is a shocking crime. i think that the ceremonies yesterday, and the feelings in boston as exhibited by the poll, they want the focus to be on the survivors, the people and even, you know, memory of those who died. if you seek the death penalty, and you get the death penalty, it is going to focus on tsarnaev for 15 or 20 years. it is going to make a martyr out of him, and all of the, you know, mitigating factors and all of the money will be spent on his case, and it is, it is going to take the emphasis away from boston. >> and there is another high profile case that also has this conversation back in the news, bruce. 73-year-old frazier glenn cross arrested in the deaths of three people at the two jewish facilities in kansas city e over

the weekend and in this case, it is looking like it is going to be tried as a hate crime. i wonder if that puts it into the category for you that the death penalty needs to be considered. >> well, the death penalty needs to be considered when there is a homicide. i think that it has to have limits on it, and i say that the supreme court has made clear that there has to be a consideration of all of the aggravating and the mitigating circumstances, and it is unfortunate to try to speculate before we know all of the details here. obviously, an ugly almost subhuman crime from what we know about the motivations and the background of the allegeded culprit here, but we should not be speculating and usurp iing t role of the jury. what is important is that all of the facts extin you waiting and aggravating are presented to the impartial body, and they decide if the death is appropriate, and i want to underscore that the law does recognize in other circumstances, too, the pro pry ti to resort to the death when

certain social interests are endang endangered. in other words, if you see your companion or friend being attacked and where life or serious bodily injury is inflicted, you have a right to knowing knowingly and customarily kill, and what is made legal and so we have certain circumstances of crimes that are so savage and inhuman that we believed that the death penalty is appropriate. >> and thank you both so much for coming in to talk to us, gentlemen. we are out of time. to us, eagle. ♪ 2,000 feet. ♪ still looking very good. 1,400 feet. [ male announcer ] a funny thing happens when you shoot for the moon. ahh, that's affirmative. [ male announcer ] you get there. you're a go for landing, over. [ male announcer ] the all new cadillac cts, the 2014 motor trend car of the year.

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dzhokhar tsarnaev are in court right now where they sought to have some of the charges against him dismissed. the judge quickly denied that request, but meantime, we are learning new information about the conditions tsarnaev is being held under at a federal medical prison near boston. "the new york times" reports that he cannot mingle, speak or pray with any other prisoners. his only visitors are the legal team, and mental health consultant, and his immediate f family who had apparently seen him only rarely. he may write only one letter, three pages, double-sided and place one telephone call each week to his family, and when he reads newspapers or magazines, they are stripped of the classified ads to letters to the editor, and he is only able to go out to a single small confin