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whether they can make a quick buck. so those -- those are three dangers right there. >> and it is a slippery slope. we will follow the story and your protests coming up later on in the month. >> thank you. if anybody's interested, they can come to stopstaples.com for more information. >> all right. stopstaples.com. thank you, mark, appreciate your time tonight. that's the ed show, i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, tonight's lead, gop extremism going from bad to worse. their 2014 candidates are showcasing the most intolerant radical views of the party, making a mockery of all their talk about gop rebranding. take mississippi candidate chris mcdaniel. we just learned that in the mid-2000s, he wrote blog posts
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criticizing poor people affected by katrina. calling them, "the welfare depend citizens of new orleans" and saying people of all races in that city, "ignored common sense and waited for the great federal father to save them." that's the vile way a leading gop candidate talks about those who endured the horrors of katrina? welfare dependent citizens? and he has equally offensive views on everything from immigration to reparations for slavery. >> social security, we're broke. millions of illegals pouring across the border trying to become citizens, and they'll all want theirs. and then reparations. let me just get crazy with it. if they pass reparations and my taxes go up, i ain't paying taxes. >> i ain't paying taxes. this man could actually win a
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senate seat. he's getting bankrolled by major conservative groups like the club for growth, and he's typical of the extremism we are seeing in a new crop of gop candidates. at a recent forum in georgia, the gop senate candidates were asked if they'd impeach president obama. >> clinton was impeached for perjury. obama has perjured himself on multiple occasions. would you support impeachment if presented for a vote? >> three of the candidates on stage raised their hands. not one, not two, three! in north carolina, the right is rallying behind tea party candidate greg brannon. he's referred to senator jesse helms as a "modern hero" and recently equated food stamps to
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slavery. >> the government is now keeping themselves in power by giving these goodies away. the culture should go away at the federal level. 80% of the farm bill was food stamps. it enslaves people. it's crazy, but it's true. give people fish instead of giving them fish. when you're in behest of somebody, you're in slavery to them. >> forget all the gop talk about rebranding, this new field of candidates promotes ugly, divisive talk on issue after issue. they are extreme on economic rights, on women's rights, on civil rights. if this is the future of the party, then we should all be concerned for where it's headed. joining me now, jeff mcintosh and jonathan capehart. thanks both of you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> jonathan, let's go back to chris mcdaniels ridiculing the welfare citizens of new orleans for staying in the citizen
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during katrina. is this the kind of person republicans really want to represent them in the senate? >> it certainly sounds like it, because from what i've been able to read, the incumbent, senator cochran, is facing a serious challenge here. the problem that state senator mcdaniel has is that, you know, he has a record that he's now going to have to be held accountable for. it's not enough to say that, oh, democrats and mcdaniels opponents are bringing up things said years ago. we're talking about things said less than ten years ago and on the air waves for all to hear and things patently offensive. if the republican primary voters want to vote for someone who holds those views, who doesn't repudiate those views and hasn't shown any effort to moderate those views or show those views have changed, well, you know, let them make that bed.
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>> jess, i don't even hear the leading republicans in terms of the heads of the party calling on him to apologize for those views, clarify, take them back. it's like going without any kind of reprimand or concern being shown by the leaders of the party. and then you add to that chris mcdaniels, he had more to say about katrina victims in the blog post. "others seized on katrina's opportunity to assault, loot, and steal. note to the left, unless you live in detroit, the basic necessities of life do not include big screen plasma tvs, randy moss jerseys, air jordan sneakers, or any type bling-bling." again, as john said, this is not 20 years ago and things that people say and all of us have said maybe i shouldn't have said that. talking about recent statements and extended statements showing
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this is his thought process. this is in the 2000s. >> and this is just disgusting, hateful, racist rhetoric that was used during one of the country's largest tragedies. i think the vast majority of americans were crying for new orleans and were feeling for the people who were displaced from their homes, i mean, this is so far against what america believes in. i can't imagine the guy getting traction. i think it's interesting that he's running against senator cochran, who's not a moderate. the man that he is challenging is not olympia snowe, he is not kay bailey hutchison. the republican party has lurched so far to the right that they can't see moderate anymore. if todd aikman were running this year, he would be hailed as one of the reasonable candidates. it's not just mississippi.
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these are extremists running this year. >> and jonathan, the statements that we're talking about here are not being made during this race, but it is within the 2000s. but i'm saying, it's not even an issue in this race. they are not even saying to him, why did you say this in recent history, why should we feel you've changed, have you changed? the fact that it's not an issue in the primary and an issue for the national party and he's getting traction, as you said, is what i'm raising. >> right. look, i think the issue here is that perhaps the national party is just hoping that if they don't say anything, people will ignore or forget they are in the race and that big money folks within the republican party who are also equally aghast at the far right extremists that have taken over their party, they'll flood money into the coffers of the candidates, who are more moderate, who are more in line
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with the old way of the republican party. that they will somehow win out. but the fact we're talking about someone in yet another election cycle, more than someone, a whole crop of people in yet another election cycle who are to the right of the people who are already to the right of the people they've unseated is something that should concern the country, but definitely concern the republican party as a whole and shape them out of their sort of silent stupor, because if they are not careful, the party is going to cease to exist. >> you know, jess, the gop candidates in this election are also very, very far to the right on women's issues, and after 2012, this is startling. candidates in colorado, arkansas, montana, north carolina, georgia, iowa, michigan, and louisiana have all
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backed personhood amendments, which would essentially ban abortion. not that long ago, this was considered a pretty extreme view, even in the party. >> birth control, too. it would ban many forms of birth control, too. women voters decide every election. we saw what happened in 2012 when republicans pursued these incredibly reactionary agendas, trying to make it harder to get birth control, not believing that gender discrimination in pay was a real issue. obviously, those kinds of positions turn off women voters. alienating the population is a bad electoral strategy. we're seeing them go down exactly the same road they went in 2012, only on hyperdrive. this is worse than it was in 2012. the tom tillises, phil browns in georgia, these are more extreme than the extremists we ran against and beat last year.
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luckily, we have fantastic women candidates that provide a very, very clear contrast to their agenda, but we need to turn out voters to the polls in november. it is absolutely critical. >> jonathan, i see you nodding. i mean, all of this is being done, keeping in mind, that the chairman of the party priebus had called for an autopsy and a change in tone. and it seems like extremists are gaining momentum in primaries in his party in various parts of the country. >> well, the problem is they put out this 99-page truth-telling document. it really is an incredible analysis of what happened to the party, the 2012 presidential election, put out all of these prescriptions for the things the party needed to do, must do, in order to attract the voters, very voters they are going to need in future presidential elections, and almost as soon as it was released, it hit the shelves, the party started doing things that completely undercut
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everything that they said that needed to be done in that autopsy. and i think, again, we're seeing this crop of extremist candidates within the republican party, because the party itself hasn't more forcefully acted on the autopsy and there's no grownup in the republican party willing to tell these people to stand down. >> isn't just they changed their positions. the autopsy didn't suggest they moderate their agenda. they said try new messagers. it's not the messenger that's the problem, it's the message. so they can say, yes, we understand we have a problem over and over again for a year, but unless they are willing to address the substance of the problem, which is that america wants economic opportunity, they are not going to get anywhere. >> i absolutely agree with you, jess. it is not just the people, it is the agenda. i really do have to go. jess mcintosh and jonathan capehart, thank you both for your time tonight.
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>> thanks, rev. coming up, we're hearing more good news on the affordable care act, but move over cooking the enrollment numbers. they have a new conspiracy theory today. and caught on tape. watch a gop congressman tell a worker that higher minimum wage, quote, not right. plus, we're learning more about the white supremacist charged with murdering three in kansas. a chilling interview surfaces. and nelson mandela came to new york city after being freed from prison in 1990. tonight he'll be honored at yankee stadium. my memories on that trip. stay with us. >> you'll now know who i am. i am a yankee! [ hypnotist ] you are feeling satisfied without standard leather. you are feeling exhilarated with front-wheel drive.
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president obama wants to raise the minimum wage. so do most americans. but republicans just don't get it. and now one gop lawmaker ran into a buzz saw from his own constituents. we'll show you tape of that. next. lion businesses. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom.
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>> would you support the obama act of raising the federal minimum wage? >> no. >> and why not? >> because i think it would do more harm to our economy than everything. the cost of products, the cost of services are going to go up. markets do work, and i'm not suggesting that we go away with the minimum wage, that's not it at all. but the minimum wage is not a career wage. it's a wage to make sure workers aren't being taken advantage of by business owners, but if we're going to make it a living wage, who's going to pay for it? who's going to pay for it? i'm going to pay for it. >> i will. i'll pay 20 cents extra for a hamburger. >> the congressman asked a question and got an answer he apparently didn't expect. americans support fairness, including a raise of the minimum wage. but that didn't seem to matter. >> if the government's going to tell me how much i'm going to get paid and when i can work and can't work, then we have a
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serious problem in this country. we need to make sure that we protect our ability to our god-given rights to excel the way we were meant to excel and for one nation that mankind has ever known, it is this one that's allowed that opportunity. how much more government do you want in your life? >> how much more government do we want in our lives? how about enough for fair minimum wage? the congressman said he's not suggesting getting rid of the minimum wage, but then he says it's a serious problem if the government sets a minimum wage. his answer makes no sense. and neither does the gop economic agenda. joining me now are angela ryan and patricia murphy. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> andrea, it's amazing. voters tell a republican congressman to his face that they support minimum wage and he still doesn't get it. >> rev, you know what's more disappointing about this is it is a voter in his district,
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meaning it's a constituent. one of the people maybe that didn't vote for him, but he's now elected to serve. the bigger problem here is the fact that this individual says take a walk in my shoes, come work with me for 24 hours and his response is he mowed lawns when he was 12 and has been working all of his life so he can enjoy the fruits of his labor. the fact of the matter is, rev, this minimum wage now has not been on par with inflation, has never been ingested, and if it was, it would be $10.76 and not this $10.10 increase folks are seeking. maybe people would be able to enjoy parts of the fruit of their labor. he's so out of touch and so desiring to support his tea party friends and the people that would benefit from these billions in tax cuts that he just voted for with the ryan budget that he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> you know, patricia, oklahoma republican governor, the oklahoma republican governor, actually signed a bill this week
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banning cities in her state from raising their local minimum wage. i mean, it's an absolute, in my opinion, it's an absolute sad policy. let's put it that way. >> well, i think that the polls that you talked about show that americans agree with you and americans, i think, agree that $7.25 an hour for somebody who works a full-time job, leaves them at the poverty level. and when we talk about the issue, we hear the word "fair" a lot. i think we should just find out what is empirically a living wage and most americans i think it is right to have somebody living out of poverty if they have gone out, looked for a job, got a job, working 40 hours a week and the minimum wage does not leave people living below the poverty level, even though they go to work every day. i think that's the piece of the debate that really should change. most americans agree with that. congress would be absolutely right to follow that. even if you made $10.10, these
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are not teenagers. there's a lot of misinformation around the topic, even with the misinformation, most americans agree the minimum wage should be raised. >> even with the misinformation, angela, republicans in congress have actually turned opposing the minimum wage into a talking point. listen to this. >> i don't think raising the minimum wage and history's very clear about this, doesn't accomplish those goals. >> when you raise the price of employment, guess what happens, you get less of it. >> i want people to make as much as they can. i don't think the minimum wage law works. >> you know, angela, but as patricia said, even with all of that, americans overwhelmingly support raising the minimum wage. 93% of democrats back the plan, 69% of independents, and even 52% of republicans. >> yeah, i don't know if
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politifact has tested this theory yet, but it flies in the face of logic and also flies in the face of several studies that say the exact opposite. it doesn't reduce unemployment. it reduces unemployment, rather, to increase the wage, and in addition to that, rev, it would generate $30 billion in additional economic activity and create 143,000 more jobs. so i don't know where they are getting their talkers from. perhaps the person you named as their de facto chair, but it's errant. it's very, very wrong. >> patricia, they are doing this in a climate where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. as it almost sounds like a bumper sticker slogan, but when you look at facts, new numbers out today show an enormous and growing gap between ceos, for example, and minimum wage earners. in 2013, ceos made an average of
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$11.7 million. minimum wage workers got just over $15,000. that gap is enormous, patricia. >> that gap is enormous. that gap is, frankly, wrong. i think most americans believe that. when you look into detailed polling about right track, wrong track, when most people believe that the country's on the wrong track, a big piece of that is because of what they see, just an enormous disparity between people. again, everybody who is going to work, going to work every single day and just a massive pay increase for the people at the very, very top, middle class extremely stagnant and people at the lowest end of the wage scale, those real wages have not just stagnated, they've gone down. if you make $7.25 four years in a row, you're not doing better, you're actually doing worse even though you're working every day. that's a frustration for people. again, we hear a lot about people with work ethics, people who want to do the right thing,
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and i really think most americans believe somebody working every day should be awarded for that with a living wage. >> well, let me thank angela rye and patricia murphy. thank you both for your time tonight. and let me say, as long as that big gap between the rich and the working poor and working middle class is as broad as it is, again, average ceo, this just out today, made $11.7 million last year. average minimum wage worker, $15,093. this should not happen in our nation without some real safeguards to protect working people. still ahead, think you've heard every crazy right-wing theory about the president's health care law? think again. there's a new one making the rounds, and it's exposing the gop's own desperation. also, disturbing new tapes
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never. because they will cheat. >> so passing voter i.d. laws is really all about banning abortion and gay marriage, but what happened to all that voter fraud he was supposed to find? it was essentially nonexistent. they have only been 26 alleged cases out of millions of votes cast. and seven have already been dismissed, but it turns out there is some fishy business happening at the polls in iowa, only it's not coming from the voters. it's coming from matt schultz. a review recently found at least 12 people had their votes wrongly rejected in 2012. schultz blamed it on inaccuracies and data entry mistakes in the state's list of ineligible felons. maybe if matt schultz hadn't been so busy on his crusade to find voter fraud, he would have noticed that the real problem
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plus a $100 rebate on 4 select tires from your tire experts. chevy certified service. the more good news we get about the health care law, the more the right scrambles to find a scandal. first, they accused the white house of cooking the books on enrollment. now it's the census. "the new york times" reports the census bureau is changing the questions it asks about health insurance, because, "census officials and researchers have long expressed concern about the old version of insurance questions and for more than a decade the agency has been trying to make it more accurate." so, they want more accurate information. pretty normal for the census bureau, but it's very suspicious
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to the right. from the report, convenient: census survey revisions mask obamacare effects. the daily caller is accusing the administration of destroying reliable data. "the wall street journal" calls it "cooking the obamacare stats." wow, they love talking about cooking. and staffers for speaker boehner, eric cantor, and ted cruz have all tweeted snarky comments about the change. good thing no one on tv is taking this seriously. oh, wait. >> there was a big scuttlebutt about the fact a lot of the census keeping duties were moving from one office over to the white house. are we seeing the ramifications of that now? >> that's a possibility. we really don't know the precise impact of obamacare on the health insurance market. a lot of people are saying, oh, how convenient, why now? >> oh, how convenient!
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here's the reality. the new questions on insurance will cover 2013 and 2014, comparing insurance levels before and after the health care law went into effect. and the director of the census bureau says the changing are the culmination of 14 years of research and two national tests in 2010 and 2013. this isn't cooking the books, it's getting better information. the only thing that's cooked are the right wing attacks. joining me now are former ohio governor ted strickland. he's now president of the center for american progress action fund and democratic strategist jamaal simmons. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> the census bureau is part of a plot to hide information about the health care law? who else is in this laters conspiracy, the easter bunny? >> the republicans have been
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criticizing the census ever since i can remember. they are always looking for some nefarious motivation, and we know what their motive is. their motive is to try to continue to discredit the effects of obamacare. reverend al, some 12 million americans this year will have health care coverage that would not have had it without obamacare. we should be celebrating that. it makes me proud of our country to know that we are finally taking this major step and making health care affordable and available to the american people. we ought not to be looking for boogey mans. we ought to be celebrating the accomplishment. >> you know, jamaal, the right is also claiming the enrollment numbers are bogus. listen to this. >> they know they've got a math problem with obamacare and the numbers are not going to work out. >> i don't think it means anything, chris. i think they are cooking the books on this. >> well, look, the numbers are a
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bit of funny math. >> with millions of obamacare applicants appearing out of thin air now in the last few days, kathleen sebelius is fighting off allegations they are cooking the books. >> the real question is, when have they not lied about obamacare? >> you know, they say they had 7 million startups. now does anybody really believe that? just an impossibility. it's actually impossible. >> well, you know, jamaal, if the donald says it, it must be true. i mean, we had the birthers, now we have the truthers on health care. >> that's right. reverend al, you say all the time you're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. i think what the republicans are doing here is trying to create an alternative set of facts. they are attacking the real facts about where americans are, what they need, and what it's going to take to fix their health care problems. i was back in the commerce
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department in the 1990s. republicans have been fighting the census and accurately detailing the condition of the american people for as long as anybody can remember, and the reality is, they know that americans are not advancing as far and as fast as they need to. the last segment you had talking about wages, we see it in those stories, americans are not making as much money as they can and should. republicans know if the real facts are told and they are out there, it makes arguments and opinions harder to upstand. >> you know, governor strickland, you ran a state. give us your assessment as one of executive of a state of how the health care plan is doing now and what it means to people on the ground, as one that ran a state. >> reverend al, the fact is, millions of americans across the states have access to health care now that a few months ago was well beyond their ability to
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achieve. there are people today who have serious health conditions, who had pre-existing conditions, who had been denied coverage and today they have access to coverage. there are people across -- in my state of ohio, thankfully, our governor decided to expand medicaid and i applauded him for that. we didn't set up our own exchange, which would have made more successful the effort in ohio, but you take a state like texas, where so many people are without any access to health care and they refuse to expand coverage, it's just beyond belief. i don't understand it. i think it says something about the values that these governors hold dear when they choose to deny their own citizens access to affordable health care when the federal government is accepting the larger share of
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the burden for several years and 90% of the burden thereafter. it's really a sad situation. >> that is not only sad, it's as the governor said, jamal, it's outrageous. the federal government is going to cover 90% of it, costs the state little or nothing, and for politics you're going to hold this back that affects the citizens in your state? you quote me talking about different opinions, but you can't have different facts. let's look at the facts. gallup finds a big difference between the states embracing the health care law and the states that aren't. in states that expanded medicaid and set up their own exchanges, the rate of uninsured residents has fallen 2.5%. in states that didn't expand medicaid and didn't do the exchanges, the uninsured rates have fallen .08%. these are facts, jamal.
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>> absolutely facts and underneath the facts are real-live human beings who are struggling to make ends meet in their family, struggling to make sure they are being taken care of, and instead of taking care of their citizens, republicans are deciding to play politics, so you've got people trying to get cute with these numbers and get cute with policies and going and having 50 votes against obamacare that don't mean anything. if the republicans actually wanted to fix obamacare and not just play around and try to repeal it, they actually wanted to fix it, there are things they could come up with that the country would go along with, but they are not playing straight. and until they play straight, the administration can't sit down with them across the table and figure out how to fix the tweaks that need to be made. >> you know, governor mitch mcconnell was back in his district this week talking about the health care law. he said insurance for everyone would be a great thing in principle and we're going to figure out a way to get this
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fixed. this isn't going to stay the way it is. but he'll have a lot of explaining to do to his constituents, because 360,000 kentuckians have enrolled under the law, cutting the uninsured rate by 42%. mcconnell's talking about fixing the law. how will that go over? >> what's the senator going to do? is he going to go back to kentucky, run for re-election, and say to the people, we're going to take your health care coverage away from you? every governor, every senator that wants to repeal obamacare is saying to the people who have achieved coverage, we're going to strip from you what you now have, we're going to take from you the health care coverage that you now have. i don't think they can do that and get by with it. >> governor ted strickland and jamal simmons, thank you for your time tonight.
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the white supremacist who allegedly went on a hate-filled murder rampage in kansas city. the former klan member, frazier glenn miller, is charged with murdering three last sunday outside a jewish community center. today, the southern poverty law center, a group that tracks radical extremists, released a series of interviews with him from last year. in the chilling conversations, miller talked about his ideology, his violent past, and his beliefs about race. >> whites are in fact dying out. jews are increasing. >> god, glenn, you and your crazy numbers. you know, whites are not dying. >> i wouldn't even be in the movement if not for that. everything killing us was brought about by jews. >> killing us? >> legalization of abortion that has already killed, what, 40 million white babies in the
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united states. >> and he then turned his attention to african-americans. >> why do blacks in africa average iq is 70? why are their brains smaller, lighter, and less convoluted? there's not one black neighborhood in this country that you can walk down the street at night by yourself. >> if he's convicted of capital murder, he could face the death penalty, but how can we stop this from happening again? what can we do to prevent this kind of tragedy? joining me now is mark potauch, senior fellow at the southern poverty law center. they track hate groups and radical extremists. mark, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me, rev. >> hearing him like that is pretty stunning. how long has miller been on your radar? >> he's been on our radar for more than 30 years now. we really tangled with him back in the 1980s when we brought
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suit against him and his group, the carolina knights of the ku klux klan and later a second group, the white patriot party that he formed, very similar. these groups were paramilitary klan organizations, used to march through the streets carrying weapons and that kind of thing. >> he even went after your founder, didn't he, and former director? >> yeah. what actually happened was we ultimately got a consent decree, rather an agreement, a signed agreement with him in which he agreed to stop harassing and intimidating black north carolinians and to stop operating paramilitary groups. he very quickly broke that consent decree and as a result was convicted of criminal contempt. he went on the lam, was a fugitive for several months, was ultimately found by the fbi in
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1987 holed up in a trailer with several other klansmen with a whole lot of weapons and plan to assassinate the founder of the southern poverty law center. that's when he was arrested. >> mark, your organization reports that hate groups are on the rise. a 2011 southern poverty law center report says the hate groups have grown every year for the past 11 years. in 2000 there were 602 hate groups. in 2011, there were over 1,000. why are we seeing this rise, and is there anything we can do to stop them? >> well, very generally the rise has to do pretty directly with the changing racial demographics of the united states. ten, 12 years ago, it was all about nonwhite immigration, essentially latino immigration. with the appearance of barack obama on the scene in the fall
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of 2008 and, of course, his election of president, the group growth began to accelerate quite a lot. we saw militia groups absolutely explode, go from about 150 to almost 1,400 groups in the space of four years, and that really has to do, again, with the changing racial demographics of the country as represented in the person of barack obama. the census bureau has predicted nonhispanic whites in america will lose their majority, fall under 50% of the population by about the year 2043. and that's what's really going on here. these groups of individuals out there, you know, feel that the country is being stolen from them, that they've lost certainly their dominant position and they are angry and some of them are angry enough to engage in the kind of mass murder that miller allegedly did. >> mark, thank you so much for your time this evening. >> a real pleasure. coming up, a new honor for
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now to the growing support for a grief-stricken arizona mother, who had their children taken away from her. this is the tearful mugshot of a
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35-year-old shanisha taylor, a homeless single mother arrested last month and charged with felony child abuse. she allegedly left her two kids, a 2-year-old and a 6-month-old in the car when she went on a job interview. she spent 11 days in jail before being released on jail, but her children are still in the custody of child protective services. yesterday, a petition signed by 12,000 people from all over the country was dropped off to the county's attorney's office. the petition asks that the charges be dropped. an online fundraiser has collected over $100,000. her attorney had this message from her yesterday. >> the love, compassion, and support of those of you around the world are nothing less than phenomenal. i read a message the other day that reminded me, it takes a
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i'm honored to be participating in a ceremony tonight at yankee stadium paying tribute to nelson mandela. he visited yankee stadium on a trip here in new york back in 1990, just four months after his release from prison in south africa. mandela put on a yankee jacket and declared his solidarity with the huge crowd of new yorkers. >> you now know who i am. i am a yankee! >> it was just one stop on a whirlwind historic trip to the city. he went first to my home burough
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of brooklyn, visiting a high school that now bears his name. then nearly half a million gathered for a parade through the canyon of heros in lower manhattan. he addressed 200,000 more on the steps of city hall. >> south africa, country which banishes forever racism in all its forms. apartheid is doomed. south africa shall be free. >> and on a trip to riverside church, mandela had them literally dancing in the aisles.
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i had the honor of being with this great man a few years later on a trip to the united nations, and during his first trip to the u.s. as south africa's president. he worshipped in harlem, where martin luther king's former executive was pastor. dr. walker taught me that you can grow and change and change the world. he made us read about how gandhi said change must begin with you. nelson mandela went to jail for 27 years. he went in jail being called a terrorist, one that was planning all kinds of guerilla warfare and murderous acts, even in a land they were being murdered and summarily robbed of justice. he came out a unifier, one that brought a nation together.
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he grew and the world grew, and that's why tonight where he said he was a yankee, we will honor him and we will raise his legacy. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. bringing in the big guns. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm joy reid in for chris matthews. leading off tonight, a big new challenge to the national rifle association. it comes on the seven-year anniversary of the deadliest mass shooting in american history. 32 people were gunned down at virginia tech by a killer who was able to buy two guns, even though a judge had declared him dangerously mentally ill. for years the debate about what to do about gun violence has remained completely one