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eastern ukraine as we continue as we are. >> south korea's president is blasting the captain for what she's calls murderous acts. >> the number of bodies is rising all the time. >> high school students and their families are protesting michelle obama's involvement in kansas graduation ceremonies stealing spotlight from the kids and i have to say, if you have the opportunity to have the first lady speak at your high school graduation, keep those concerns to yourself. that is as nine. >> i mean -- >> hello and welcome it "rf daily." san diego's meb keflezighi
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becoming the first american man to win and winning they are third overall title in south african wheelchair racer won his tenth boston marathon and tat yan na mcfadden, the second largest field ever in the race's 118 year history. all of this of course amidst the largest and most advanced security presence in the country. being described as the very newest technology and will have seamless communications. the race began with a moment of silence at the starting line in remembrance of those who died in last year's marathon bombing and before last night's red sox game, they paid trib ute to the victims. banners were spread across the
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field filtd with messages of courage and encourage. the biggest cheer was for survivors as they took the field, many walking on prosthetics. ron, it looks to be smooth sailing but the bombings didn't go until 3:00 p.m. last year. is there a heightened sense of nervousness as we grow closer to that time? >> i would say no. everyone knows the security is much tighter and folks who have been attending this race for a long time with people growing up here in boston, there's a lot of security here. i don't think a lot of folks are nervous about their safety today because there's so much security. twices many officers on the ground this year than last. we're told by the boston pd they sealed off the finish line after because they've got so many people down there cheering on their loved ones and all of these 36,000 racers now crossing the finish line they are telling folks to go further to the west to kenmore square if they want to get close to the race course
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itself. what we saw last year, that unfortunate situation that happened here where these alleged suspects were seen on camera walking into the boil boyleston street area and dropping book bags probably next to impossible to do that today because right now you've got to go through a checkpoint and those have been sealed off. what a great day. you couldn't ask for better weather. we're expecting to get into the mid-60s today, perfect day for a race. i'm looking at the live feed of the race itself, we're starting to getting hoards and crowds making their way across the finish line after running 26.2 miles and there are all sorts of stories and survivors out there running today. it's a very special day for boston and tonight they are going to be parties all over town. so far so good. i spoke with the police commissioner earlier and taking this somewhat personally to ensure this goes off without a hitch. so far -- >> it seems like a rea emotional moment. a beautiful day and seems like
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effective security so far. you mentioned checkpoints, tell us more about what changed this year and how they struck a balance between making sure people are safe and they are not feeling the oppressive weight of that security? >> reporter: i asked the commissioner that very question, you don't want the security so oppressive that people don't want to come out to the event because they don't want to take part in all of that. they plan for six months, solid six months about the plan for today and i would say it's the right balance that folks are happy to be here and they feel it's necessary to go through the check points and they were told well in advance not to bring certain things to at the time race course, from the looks of it, folks did just that and left the bags and those things in their car or at home. so they have struck the right balance. i did ask if this is going to be the new normal for this race. he says he does not hope so. he hopes sometime beginning as soon as next year they can start scaling it back and show the world this is a great event. they held this event for 117
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times before today without any issues, of course last year then they want to get back to having this be the premier marathon in the world where safety is not taken for granted but not top of mind like it is this year. folks on the common heading their way towards the boyleston area finish line, about 3/4 of a mile behind us, we're expecting a lot of families to make their way to the park. i don't know how well you can see, there are canvass, these inspirational canvas from all 50 states and people have been coming by and taking pictures of messages from kids and seniors about this day and trying to give boston a pat on the back. it's a much needed and they've earned this day. it's a special day here in the city. >> they certainly have. as we mentioned it's very emotional moment for many in boston today. we spoke to a few runners before the race this morning. take a listen. >> we both going to northeastern and had friends at the finish
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line last year who spent some time in the hospital we're running for them. >> reporter: can you expand on that a bit? >> we both had a hard year and our friends were really there for us and we're repaying the favor. >> boston has been a big tailgate party and funnest event, so the frustration is that they ruined that, it's not as much of a party. and this year everybody will be more cautious. whereas before it would be people having fun, barbecuing, tailgating, drinking on the side of the road. this year probably won't be as much like that. >> reporter: what does that make you feel? >> why did they pick boston of all places? it's a pity. it's really sad that boston has always been the safer city and good place to live. and now boston is more known for the marathon bombing than the red sox right now. >> that was a huge factor in wanting to come back here and do
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something really positive and show the world that boston is amazing and strong and not going to be threatened by could you ardly terrorists. >> ron, obviously people undaunted by this which suggests boston has done a good job of setting up the safety net. do you think other cities around the country will take away lessons from this moment? >> reporter: absolutely. i mean, having this many people in such a congested area, we've got a crowd, i don't know what the official numbers will be but they were planning for a million plus people along the state route. a lot of folks with families on the race course today and it's a big event in new england. patriot's day. it is a lesson to be learned from last year. they knew there were some security holes they made sure to cover this year. there's a real network of underground surveillance going on, a lot of undercover cops in
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addition to the uniformed police officers here and ip left the hotel to come over here. i stopped counting, there were dozens and dozens in the short half mile drive i took of cops on the ground. there's a heavy presence here and it sort of sets the tone they want a safe event here but not such a tone where people feel it's overshadowing the race itself. they've spent a good year planning for this year and want it to go off with a hitch and it is a big deal for people who run marathons to go and finish what they start. >> it's a delicate balance to strike and clearly seems they are doing a good job. thank you for that report. we'll be back with more just up ahead on "rf daily", who is more likely to join putin in a manly foet to op, biden or obama? here's a hint. one is in ukraine right now. we're talking policy and politics just after the break.
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welcome back, we're following developing news out of yemen. nbc news confirmed a u.s. drone strike has taken place in southern yemen, local media are reporting al qaeda bombmaker ib ra him asirry may have been killed in these attacks. nbc news has not independently confirmed that, the designer of the underwear bomb that abdul mut lab used to take down a jet on christmas day of 2009. we'll monitor this story and bring you the latest as it comes in. first to the crisis in ukraine, vice president joe biden is in that country in one of the high profile u.s. efforts yet to support ukraine's interim government. he arrives in the wake of bloody
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shootout at the checkpoint in eastern ukraine yesterday which left three people dead. ukraine and russia trading blame. but new photos provided to a european monitoring body and published by the new york times today give some insight into who has been seizing government sites in eastern ukraine. the times says these photos link the gunmen known as greenmen to russia. nbc news has not confirmed which is alleged in the photos but the u.s. state department says they quote, only further confirm russia's connection. it's something that have had mir putin has repeatedly denied but ukraine's prime minister says the world should be concerned. with putin in particular. >> president putin has a dream to restore the soviet union. and every day he goes further and further and god knows where is the final destination. >> first let's get the latest on this from jim maceda on the
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ground in donetsk. thanks for joining us. it was a violent weekend. any additional fallout from that attack today? >> reporter: hi, ronan. first of all, we have to say this is the last day of a three-day truce, that truce was called or launched by the kiev government on saturday and today it has been holding though it has obviously been severely tested by that attack that you mentioned on that pro-russian checkpoint on sunday. now the pro-russian separatists blame the ultranationalist military group and kiev says it was staged. i've got to say we and many other journalists were at the scene yesterday and a lot of it did look con trifed but perhaps the worst fallout from the incident is that ordinary ukrainians we've been speaking to, people in the east who have wanted dialogue with kiev, not extremists or radicals, they are
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now talking about joining up with separatists as a result of the attack, be it real or staged. in terms of complying with the geneva deal, there still has been no surrendering of weapons or vacating of buildings by either side, be it pro-ukrainian or pro-russian. that said, osce has now fanned out across ukraine, 100 members are here carrying a lot of copies of the geneva peace deal and trying to push compliance along. that could become mission impossible. >> all right jim maceda, thank you for the overview. this serves to rach et up pressure on president obama and united states to act. why america and what are the pit falls if america does act more aggressively? for that i turn to nina krush
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chefa. i'll start with you congressman, president obama as we mentioned, weathering a new round of flak for not being aggressive on a whole range of foreign policy challenges, including this crisis in ukraine. listen to david brooks on "meet the press" yesterday talking about this. >> let's face it, obama whether deservedly or not does have -- i'll say it crudely, but a man hood problem in the middle east. is he tough enough to stand up to someone like putin. there's an assumption he's not tough. >> quite a statement. obviously in syria one can understand where that reputation may come from because there was a concerted push for intervention and it was dropped. in ukraine where he's been sir couple inspect from the start, do you think it is earned? >> i don't think so. i think the president wanted to give russia a chance to deescalate. it looks like russia wants to continue to infiltrate andage state and deceive the world what it's doing in ukraine. it may be very necessary for the
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administration i think to step up sanctions. the big challenge there is not the administration. the challenge is getting europe on board because sanctions will be much more deeply felt in europe. but i do think it's going to ultimately be necessary. russia doesn't show any intention to pull back its green men, these special forces that have infiltrated ukraine and are organizing a lot of theage tags there. i think look, the president doesn't want to turn this into world war iii and that's very wise. at the same time it looks like russia is showing no signs of backing down. >> certainly a lot of arguments for caution here and a lot of complex issues to be embroiled. let's go to you on that question, nina, do you think the ambition out of russia at this point is all-out invasion, knowing the history both personally and teaching it? >> i don't think so.
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all-out invasion is not in putin's interest because he pretends or wants to be the world statesman and be listened to and wants to be great. if he really takes ukraine as a country, which i don't think he can because it's too much of a piece of land and too close to europe to take it over, his job and we've discussed it on this show, to make sure the kiev government now, the pro-western government appears very weak and it already does. and also show that the west is absolutely incapable to keep the promises and putin is a tough man and says what he does and stands by his word and punishes the west by not abiding to its own word. >> the unfortunate condition of so much of foreign policy that caution gets one burned. we'll see if that ends up happening to the president here. jay carney urged russia to use its influence to pressure the military groups to disarm. strikingly at odds with all of the evidence we have that russia
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is behind those para military groups. take a listen to what the response on the hill has been on this line of arguing. bob corker talked about this just yesterday. >> i think we need to step on out and do the things we threaten. i don't think putin will respond to anything else other than us overtly doing the things we've laid out. >> so clearly this tact of requesting russia to use influence in a positive way is deem insufficient by some elements on the hill. what do you say to that kind of response? >> look, it does certainly seem like russia is not backing away from its secret campaign to destabilize the country. and i think it's ultimate goal is to try to prevent a meaningful election next month throughout all of ukraine which gives more legitimacy to the kiev government. it's going to be tough to stop that and sanctions are probably the best answer to that. in terms of american military support in ukraine, ukraine is in such a weak position
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militarily, that's not going to slow down russia one heartbeat if russia chooses to invade. what may slow down russia is the idea of sectorwide sanctions and that's why i think we need to line up europe behind sanctions on banking industry and mining industry and energy industry. that may be an adequate deter ent not to the continued destabilization program but to o vert russian invasion. >> we are starting to see signs of that economic impact and ruble in free fall and a lot of capital flight out of russia. it remains to be seen whether it will be persuasive. do you think any of the relationship between the united states and russia is salvageable in the short term? >> i think it's going to last a really long time. putin has done enough damage for maybe even decades to come. i think the united states really needs to go back to 1946, to great american diplomat and start designing or explaining
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the sources of soviet conduct, somebody has to design the sources of russian conduct and see how you psychlogically deal with president putin which has become a really serious matter, not just in words the barack obama, regional power. the markets will really teach them how not to use military force. if ruble falls further and if russian economy falls further, then they would be an issue for putin and his popularity may tumble down. >> as congressman schiff points out, the bottom line speaks more powerfully. thank you both. >> you bet. >> the latest on the south korea ferry sinking as both the death toll and number of those arrested for their part in the tragedy continue to mount. stay with us.
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brockovich will not be celebrating she'll be at the supreme court protesting on a little noticed case about whether victims who drank contaminated water around camp will he jun can still sue. a 24 year veteran of the marines moved to the camp not even knowing of the danger. his daughter jane knee died of a rare form of leukemia, the years old. president obama named a law after janeny and makes it more troubling that president obama's justice department is arguing that 25 families exposed to that same contamination should not be able to bring their claims against the company that put the toxic chemicals in the water. because they didn't discover the tumors and bone cancer and skin canners because their bodies
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didn't start falling apart until two years after the time limit had run out under state law to bring this action. this brings us back to erin brockovich who will be out there fighting for those victims. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the victims of this particular contamination as we mention were unaware of the toxins until it was too late to sue under state law. do you think there should be time limitations on these type of pollution cases? >> well, no, it's actually very, very concerning to me this situation which is qwhy i'm goig to head to washington, d.c. if you go back to the film erin brockovich it's like the community in hinckley california who lived on polluted land and 99.99% of the time don't know for the first ten or 11 or 12 years they are in fact being poisoned. and it isn't until 10, 11, 12 years passed that they find themselves with disease or children with cancer. and there should not be a pass
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for that polluter. they need to continue to be responsible for their pollution. 15, 20, 25 years down the road. and statute of repose would give them that pass. i don't think it's fair to any of us who live in an around super fund sites across america. >> let's talk about the super fund sites, that is the legal issue. while the state has one limit, federal super fund legislation has another. the appeals court said that that legislation was intended to protect more than the current state laws do. presumably you agree with that. >> i do. that is what makes this argument really so interesting because it's coming out of north carolina. you have the state statute of repose but also have camp lejeune there. they serve two or three duties to only come home and
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unbeknownst to them their family and children are sick and dying and we have a government who is supposed to protect them that is not issued in a brief that basically siding with the company. it also appears they are trying to get out of their responsibility to our american soldier and i think that would be just horrible, horrible decision and something that we should not be doing to our returning vets, soldiers and their families and children. >> one of those vets that faced this contamination said how many bullets do we have to take to see justice. right now the justice department is arguing against them. just briefly though, i want to look at the bigger picture you're fighting here. the environmental working group, you've worked with on occasion, published this map locating high levels of cancer caused by the chemical chromium 6, a big fight you fought this contamination around the country of this
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particular chemical. they took samples for 31 cities and found elevated rates, how big a problem is water contamination. >> it's a very big problem and i'm familiar with the map and started one myself that people are reporting to which we have over 5,000 communities in the united states alone reporting illness and potential disease associated with contaminated water. this is not anything that is secluded to one portion of the united states. it is the entire nation. people reporting pollution problems, whether it be air, land, soil, vapor intrusion and most specifically water. and i'm stumped that we're having these arguments today. i'm stumped that we're not making this our priority. this should not be a political conversation. this applies to each and every individual american, our families and our children. it's very widespread and we need
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to have a call to action and we need to begin to find solutions to these problems and stop giving corporations a pass. you know, maybe you're not guilty but you're still responsible. we have to become more solution driven or we're really going to have a crisis in the future. >> erin, there's the human cost but also the cost to wildlife from these contaminations? >> absolutely. that's very true. every site i go into, across the board, one of the first telltale signs something is gone wrong is the wildlife or the absence of it is telling you something is wrong. >> thank you erin brockovich and for the stand you're taking on this issue. >> thanks for having me. >> for our call to action as she mentioned it's time for a call. we're going to focus on that last point we discussed, the impact of environmental pollution on our wildlife, specifically after oil spills which are something we're going to be covering later this week. the public can't pick up oiled wildlife and there are
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street bank lehman brothers and failed manufacturer called innovida and swisher hygiene. are these bad investments that could happen to anyone or is the public starting to blanche at this big money entanglement. joining me is mark halperin and robert costa, national political reporter at the "washington post." thank you both for joining. there's all of this scrutiny on the finances of someone like jeb bush. do you think that's something the public actually cares enough about to have a lasting political impact? it seems we elect a lot of people with shady financial entangleme entanglements. >> he does want to make a lot of money and one of the reasons he didn't run in 2008 he built up this big financial empire and when he was governor of florida he missed out on the big real estate bubble in florida and wants to provide for his family.
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it's clear if he does run, people from the left and right will go after him for this kind of stuff. he's vulnerable politically and maybe on some of this stuff but the bigger complication is that jeb bush has some a.m. biflance about running. you ask people to give up their financial lives to join your campaign and disentangle yourself from a complicated portfolio, i'm not sure they won't be barriers, do i want to spend time traveling around iowa and new hampshire after i built this empire. >> one of the individuals is his son, part of that professional empire he built. there's a lot at stake for him. robert, there's no indication that jeb bush knew about these instances of financial mismanagement and not criminal activity at issue. at one point the article notes jeb bush sat on six different boards which is twice what they
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recommend to awe allow enough time to scrutinize the company you're a part of. do you think that's negligent or at least irresponsible? >> i think sitting on six different boards is going to present a question for governor bush should he run. another interesting aspect of that article was his work for lehman brothers during the financial collapse and barclay's bank. there's a new element in the republican party, especially on the right, there's a skepticism and an tag nix towards crony capitalism cozy with big business. since he has not been on a ballot since 2002 when he won re-election in florida, if he wades back into the political fray, he's going to get tagged by a lot of his critics on the right as someone who is too cozy for business and they can use this article as evidence. >> another interesting investment is quite successful financially but politically dif divisive, tenet, medical, a
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hospital that endorses obamacare and aggressive in signing people up for the insurance program. do you think that's something that could cost him with republicans? >> i don't mean to minimize all of the things, i don't think they are political mine fields, this one is too. as he explains it, he's on a board where he doesn't necessarily agree with the company that supported the affordable care act, doesn't mean he doesn't want to serve on the board. i think boards on general are targets for people on the left and right and all i'm saying, i think he can handle this stuff. i don't think this is in any way what we know about him now disqualifying, everybody has stuff in their backgrounds that will be challenged and jeb bush has proven he's adept at handling this in general. >> the point made in the context of "times" article, he's a guy who can separate prag ma tix and his own ideology. so maybe something that's positive. mark, speaking of money and politics, there's all of this
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news about napster founder sean parker get into the political game in a bipartisan way. do you think contributions on both sides of the aisle, someone who never donated to republicans before and obviously on a scale where it's unusual to see bipartisan giving. do you think he's part of a generation to younger donors more open to giving to both sides? >> that's the case particularly, those who want to see there be less partisanship, some issues like immigration and related to technology and education where there have been bipartisan coalition, you do see that amongst younger voters particularly ones you haven't been part of finance boards for years. let's see if he follows through with money that people are talking about. >> and robert costa, when you look at this bipartisan donating from someone like sean parker, he's meeting with rand paul, he's donated to marco rubio, how
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much do you think it could agitate democrats? >> you've seen them double their donations to president obama, 8 million to aobama and 4 million to romney. they have to close that dpap. you've seen paul try to reach out to silicon valley, gone to google and facebook met with bill gates. this could be a rich place to mine for donations should he run and republicans may take cues from him. >> do you think this new generation of donors is more issue based and more party based? that seems to be the logic under lying parker's -- >> a lot of them are but a they want to play by the old rules and you see younger people from the valley giving to politicians and demanding access and not necessarily giving for al truistic purposes, in general, not to be overly broad, they are more issue oriented and do find that giving money cannot only
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appeal on specific issues but change the process in a way they would like to see less partisan and attention to their issues. >> it does seem over the weekend the times is covering the positive element of younger philanthropists and courted these and held an event at the white house, where they are bringing people in who have access to huge fortunes and aren't typical players in the partisan donor scene. we'll see if that continues to evolve in that direction. stick around, our panel will stay as we ask, is the president's latest move on the keystone pipeline slick or just greasy? it's our heroes and zeros up next. in pursuit of all things awesome, amazing, and that's epic, bro, we've forgotten just how good good is. good is setting a personal best before going for a world record. good is swinging to get on base before swinging for a home run. [ crowd cheering ] good is choosing not to overshoot the moon,
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washington's least favorite political hot potato, keystone pipeline. there's an approval process that has stretch odd for five years. five years. five years, mark. it's likely going to place one of the president's most contentious environmental decisions after the november elections in november. they are saying the president is dragging his feet. mary landrieu said it's unnecessary and unacceptable. i get the accusations of political expeaedancy. everybody has kicked this can down the road. i was city state department when it was delayed out of hillary clinton's tenure there, but here's the thing. in this particular case, there is a substantive reason to delay. they pretty much have to. it was triggered by a february ruling of a nebraska court which held that the authority to place the pipe was granted
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unconstitutionally under a law that appears to be rammed through by the canadian company by the keystone pipeline, transcanada, and which granted that company the ability to use evident domain to claim land for the project. that seems crazy to me. an appropriate reason to hit pause. gentlemen, what do you think? i'll start with you. robert, is this purely political? >> i'm not going to judge the white house's motivations. though, i do think it's going to provide an interesting opportunity for democrats like mary landrieu, mark baggich in alaska, and it's a difficult campaign year, and that's not the worst thing for them to have an adversary in the white house to truly put some distance between them and the left side of their party. >> robert, don't you think in a case where a foreign company is claiming land willie nilly, potentially, that's the accusation of this court, for a major corporate profit for outside the u.s. interest, isn't that something that actually reinforces the case against this on a substantive level? >> i think that's why studies are continuing, ronan, and
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that's why the white house is reluctant to make a decision. there's still a lot of complicating issues surrounding the pipeline. there is a political problem for democrats. will some democrats feel it creates distance from them and the white house? sure. republicans now, someone like bill cass, he will have a significant issue to run on. >> this is something that is split very much along party lines. mark, it's more than 70% of republicans polled and the latest numbers say they support the pipeline. obviously, they're a big economic reasons to do it. do you think it would be possible for the president to approve this, a, politically under the current climate, and, b, legally in light of this case? could he even issue the approval right now? >> five years. >> five years. >> you know, this is a complicated issue. the baby cannot be split. we're building it or not. a lot of unions want to build it. it does provide public opinion polls, ut but you have a lot of constituencies on the right who would like to see this get done. i would like to know more about what the president actually thinks. if this is an important project that he is at least considering. jobs are involved. energy independence is involved.
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questions about the environment are involved. i would like to hear the president say, you know what, we've had five years of study. let's figure it out and let's do it. let me be sdis he have. we're either going to build it and start getting the jobs in the pipeline, or we're not going to build it because it's the wrong thing for america. just to let it go on to open himself up to accusations of politics past the midterms, i don't think that's the kind of leadership that's required on a big project like this. >> and to the extent this is political, which party do you think suffers most if this gets made? >> if the pipeline goes ahead? >> if it goes ahead -- >> is this an all-out loss for democrats. >> i haven't thought about about that because i don't think it's going ahead. if it's done in the right way, it can help the whole country. if it's a bad idea, the president should let people know that and remove the uncertainty. one of the things presidents should do is remove uncertainty from big complicated national and international debates. he is not doing that. just the opposite. >> it seems like five years into this, five years, five years, this is a subject in which he
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has had a fireside chat with the country and said i want to do it or not, and here are the obstacles. >> that's what i think. it's a challenge. he is hidden behind the state department and he has hidden behind in this case a legal ruling. there will be legal challenges. i just think it's a big, complicated problem. that's why he gets the big bucks. >> i do think this is a particularly substantive issue. a lot of arguments on both sides. a lot of them valid. thank you, gentlemen. mark and robert, appreciate your weighing in, and that wraps things up. today's ronan farrow daily. you can catch me at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. ring the alarm. it is time for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. what's coming up? >> i almost feel -- i'm going to call you roro today. that's how you do it today. >> you can call me that any time. >> sounds good. next on "the reid report" joe biden heads to ukraine. the situation there just keeps getting messier. why russia's acting out could show it's octobering out of a
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its resillancy as thousands of runners cross the finish line at the 118th boston marathon. leading the pack, an american. the first american to win this race, this historic race, since 1983. it's a win that undoubtedly will be considered even more meaningful for a city that considers itself america's birthplace. a city determined to show the world it's stronger than ever after last year's bombing. >> as vice president biden said yesterday, we're taking back the finish line. so many runners are going to be crossing that finish line that didn't get a chance to cross it last year. there are going to be so many great stories crossing that line. >> before the race began, four victims and hundreds of those injured in last year's bomb attack were honored during a moment of silence. today's record crowd of 36,000 took off many their 26.2 mile trek in several waves. many of them racing for a finish line they never got to see last we're. >> as a runner,