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that 40,000 troops have amassed. this is reuters' tv footage of those exercises which is all of course overshadowing president obama's visit to japan where he arrived a few hours ago. it is the first stop on the president's week-long asian tour which includes stops in south korea and malaysia and the philippines, and joining us is now pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, and he is going to stop in lithuania, and latvia and poland and what are you seeing about that? >> well, you are right, tamron. there are going to be airborne forces there in the four countries, and they are intended to send a strong message and not to russia necessarily, because russia knows the u.s. capabilities and commitment to nato. it is intended more as a strong message to the native and the
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baltic nations that if the ukraine crisis should explode out of control, the u.s. is prepared to do whatever it can militarily to help defend those countries. and now, the u.s. military and intelligence officials do not believe at this point that vladimir putin intends the go anywhere beyond perhaps eastern ukraine, but if in fact that crisis in ukraine does explode, the u.s. military would be p prepared to respond, and i wanted to emphasize here that these forces there now are only intended to conduct relatively small exercises. they are not there to prepare for any kind of confrontation with the russian people, tamron. >> absolutely, but as you know, comments made by secretary john kerry regarding the cold war caught a lot of attention. let me play what he had to say. >> during the cold war, it
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actually may not have seemed so at the time obviously to great leaders, but it was easier than it is today. simpler is maybe a way to put it. the choices were less varied, less complicated and more stark, and more clear. >> less complicated, and more stark and more clear. do you believe he is referring to the eu and getting the u.s. allies in a sense on one page and what to do regarding russia, and even just a point of sa sanctions, mick? >> well, if you are looking back at history in the cold war, despite the tensions, the adversari adversarially, and despite the nuclear weapons stockpiles at the ready, the u.s. and russia fought only proxy wars like in vietnam, or after gghanistan, ae potential consequences to a direct u.s. military confrontation or even a cyber
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war could potentially be catastrophic. now not only to russia and to the u.s., but that entire part of the world, and think about the world economies at the same time. there is no stomach within the administration, within the people in this building to confront russia militarily, and the most powerful weapons would be diplomatic and financial for the time being. and again, the belief or let's say hope is that russia's adventurism in the ukraine would stop in that eastern section if indeed it happens, tamron. >> thank you, mick. appreciate it. back in the united states, developing news that the justice department has announced new rules for the nonviolent low level drug offenders to have the sentences reduced. there is new criteria for those seeking clemency. they must have served ten years of the sentence, and someone who
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likely would have received a substantially lower sentence if convicted of the same federal offense. now sh now, they must also have demonstrated good conduct in prison and have no significant ties to gangs or cartels, and it is estimated that as many as 20,000 prisoners may meet those guidelines and a big development there. and also developing now, live images from space where two american astronauts are performing a space walk outside of the international space station. they are working to replace a piece of equipment that controls several stations' systems, and good thing that there is no gravity in space of course because part of it today involves changing out a 50-pound computer, and they finished part of the mission moments ago and we will keep you up to date on those developments. now, back to the developments in the ukraine and adding to the tensions that we were discussing with jim mi miklaszews miklaszewski, a journalist has been taken captive.
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a spokesman for the the pro russian militants says they are holding simon mitroskki, and he hosts a show that is for hbo. and jim maceda is joining us now to talk about how he was c captured and the circumstances there. >> well, that is still quite murky, tam theron. we know that the last time he was seen was yesterday evening. he was five other journalists, and those five were released. he was held and then the next time that we actually knew or had confirmation that he was in fact alive and being held was to d tod today. he has had many reports on the conflicts in ukraine and crimea, and they were shown on bbc as
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you said, and hbo and it is confirmed today that he was in the hands of the pro russia militia, and that is in slavansk, because that is a stronghold. and the militants said they were holding him depending on the investigation into what they call ed ted the quote bad activ. the state department condemned and concerned about the detention of ostrovsky, and he is not the only kidnapping, and the state called on russia to use the leverage to release all of these people immediately. tomron? >> well, they have released the statement, and vice news says it is in contact with the united states state department as you referred and the other appropriate government authorities to secure the safety
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of our friend and colleague simon ostrovsky and the militia that has him are anti-american which heightens the concern and the worry. >> well, that is absolutely true, they are anti-american, and some of them are even more anti-german than anti-american, and the reasons for that being that the germans, the nazi occupation of ukraine in world war ii. and so you will see how nebulous this can be, but you are right, americans have the particular problem, american journalists like myself are very cautious, and very much aware of the difficulty of the situations where we have to cross the checkpoints and there are more and more of these checkpoints as the pro russia militia tighten their grip around this region of eastern ukraine. and we have the modus operandi, and we have plan bs, and some of them good, and some of them not so good, but it is a fine
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balan balance. we are going into situations where it reminds us a little bit of kosovo or even more baghdad in the early days of the iraq war where we are trying to blend in, and not trying to be obvious, and trying not to confront these individuals at the same time, we are trying to get the story as well and bring it back. >> all right. jim, thank you very much for those detail, and we will keep the audience of course of the latest developments within this hour. and also, we are following the search for the wreckage of malaysian flight 370. authorities say they found object about 90 miles from perth, aus trtralia, and the authorities are examining photographs, but they are expressing strong words of caution. katy tur has more from perth. >> hello, tamron. we don't know too much, but a beachgoers did find something
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south of augusta about 90 mils s from where we are standing in perth. they have taken pictures and sent them to the proper authorities in malaysia and australia and right now, reviewing the fphotos. the chief of the organization that is the equivalent of the ntsb, says it is is warranting them to look ator moshgs but he cautions that the more they look at the photos the less interesting they become. it is plausible that the currents would bring a piece of wreckage at this point, because it is the southernmost portion of western australian and right where the indian ocean, and the southern ocean meet, and currents could bring it here, and remember, there has been a lot of inclement weather and even a sicyclone right where th believe that the plane went down. as for blue fin 2-21, it is continuing to search underwater, and nothing new in the scan, and
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they are 90% through searching that underwater area. tamr tamron? >> thank you, katy. in less than an hour, ga's governor is expected to sign what many are calling the most extreme gun bill in america. licensed owners would be allowed to take their guns into bars, government buildings and even ch churches. the nra calls ate victory, and we are live in georgia with the debate. and this -- >> i feel like his heart was in the right place, kind of, but that his mind was not in the right place. >> and classmates are speaking out about the teenager who stowed away inside of a plane, and survived. we are also seeing new images that could prove that the boy was actually in the wheel well no matter where he was, the security questions are still lingering today. plus, controversy over a new report that the irs paid millions of dollars in bonus money to employees who did not pay their own taxes. it is one of the things that we just thought that you should
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about the 15-year-old stowaway who survived a flight from san jose to hawaii inside of a airplane's wheel well. and we are seeing new pictures of what could be the boy's footprints on parts of the plane. we have joe friar here with the late est. >> students say that he is a freshman at santa clara high, and he rekrecently started to attend classes here, but friends say he may have been home sic for somalia. >> reporter: overnight, images received by hawaii affiliate
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show the wheel well where the 15-year-old stowaway made his journey. you can see the shoe prints inside of the landing gear door, and another shoe print is visible on one of the plane's tires, and meanwhile, as the investigation continues, students at clara high didn't know what to think when they learned that the stowaway was a classma classmate. >> i thought, is this really him? i could not believe it at first. then i saw it, and heard it, and then i believed it. >> his friend recognized the boy's orange hoodie in the picture. they say that the teen rekrecen transferred to santa clara high from a school in the bay area, but it was a tough adjust memen >> i think that he felt out of place for late bit. >> he was to himself, and he did not talk to anybody else. >> reporter: and police tells the affiliate in hawaii that he may have bn teen trying to get relatives in africa, and instead, he unknowingly picked a plane headed for maui. >> he is from africa and native
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to that country. >> reporter: and they say that he moved into the house within a couple of months. >> and he seemed normal folks. >> reporter: and many of the aviation experts are still struggling to believe that the teen stayed inside of the wheel well of the hawaiian airliner throughout the five-hour flight, but the doctors say it is possible. >> in the case, he was like an amphibian, and like a frog. >> it is crazy risk he took. >> reporter: and the friend that he describes as shy and wise is happy that he is alive. >> i feel like his heart was in the right place, but the mind really was innocent the right place. >> reporter: and officials in hawaii said that the boy was resting comfortably in a hospital yesterday and the plans are in the works to bring him home to california. tamron. >> thank you, and obviously a lot of questions regarding the security and how that boy got on the plane. and here is a question -- are the super foods bad for you? there is new concern that kale, yes, kale could affect your
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this might be the talk over the day around here, concerns around the trendy super food making its way on to so many
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plates and it is kale. consumers have been going crazy for it, and eating it raw, and sauteed in juices and in all other kinds of imaginative ways, but recently a lot of confusion about the benefits and the potential dangers of kale and other super foods like it. the latest issue of british "vogue" warns of the positive negative health effects of super foods. on kale, they advise to eat it raw or in smoothers, because it can interfere with your thyroid function. and so is kale good or not? jo joining me is a dietician and host of food network appetite ellie krieger. good to you on. >> thank you. good to be here. >> we saw a couple of articles on the kale, and we wanted to hear the facts on this, because everywhere there is kale on the menu, and so whether you reveal whether it is true that it can be bad for you, what are the benefits of kale first of all? >> i think it is a super food, if you think of a super food as
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something with loaded nutrition, and without a lot of calories. pack packed with vitamin a and c and minerals and anti-oxidents, and i think it is perfect that a lot of people are eat morgue of it and the problem -- >> here we go. >> it is not with kale or any one super food for that matter, but the extreme behavior toward food. we think that something is a miracle cure, and then we suddenly eat so much of it, and frankly, if you eat anything too much, it is not good for you. there are elements in it that are go are going to set you off balance and not be good for you. >> and the nutrition fact is that one cup of kale contains 100% of the recommended calcium, and 200% of vitamin a, and 134% of vitamin c, and 164% of vitamin k for a mere 33 calories, and that is why it is considered a super food, but what about this report that it can affect your thyroid? >> well, look at the big picture here, and every food, plant foods and fruit and vegetable
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has nutrients, and you mentioned many of kale's nutrients, and every pretty much fruit and vegetable has anti-nutrients which might interfere with the absorption or some way a affect your health badly if it eaten in large, large kwaquantities and it is absolutely good to enjoy kale a couple of times a week, and even once a day. >> so if i have a kale shake for breakfast thing in the morning, and then i have kale in my salad and then maybe for dinner it is the side. >> okay. that is three times a day. >> and that is too much. if you do that for months and months on end, the anti-nutrients. >> yes, that is ridiculous. >> and kale and other foods in that brus sesel sprouts and cabe family, brossica family, you
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have to be not overeating them. >> and what about quinquinoa. >> and going back to kale for a second, if you do have thyroid issues and you feel concerned about this, it is better to enjoy kale cooked, because a lot of the anti-nutrients are essentially neutralized with cooked. cooked for fermented like with cabbage in a sauerkraut for example. >> okay. >> and knowing that cooking does eliminate some of the issue, but for the average healthy person enjoying kale, in balance with other things, and that is the thing. we tend to look at the food that it is the miracle food and this is the answer. >> blueberries, and i remember that. >> yes, that is the issue, get to the place where we say, how many super foods? dozens and dozens and enjoy them
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all in balance. >> and for the kid who thought that they could tell their parent they could not eat kale, because my thyroid would not function right, you can have them. thank you, ellie. we love the show. and developing right now the governor of georgia is going to sign what critics are going to call the most extreme gun bill in america. the nra is calling it a victory. we are live in georgia with the debate. and wisconsin congressman paul ryan will have a chance to clarify his controversial comments about the inner city men, and the quote tailspin of culture. ryan is going to meet with members of the congressional black caucus who say they plan to challenge his thoughts on s poverty. and coming up, we will talk to dnc member emanuel cleaver. it will burn and burn bad, and you will have no idea where all of the spicy stuff is coming
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within the next hour, georgia's governor is going to sip into law the most extreme law in america for gun carrying. it is going to allow licensed owners to carry firearms in more public places in georgia than at any other time in the last century. it includes bars, nightclubs, and ur churchurches and some got buildings. and anyone who brings it into an airport would be able to pick it
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up without a criminal penalty. and the group that is like the american americans for responsibility solutions co-founder gabby giffords says it moves georgia out of the mainstream. and even the association of police chiefs in georgia is speaking out against the law. gabe gutierrez is going to join us from e ellingellingjer. >> yes, tamron, we are in a politically conservative area of georgia and it is the home district of the georgia house speaker, and governor nathan dooel is deal is going to sign this law within the next hour. this is what the new law is going to do, allow licensed gun owners in georgia to carry the weapons in more places, and as you said, tamron, to bars, and
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you could not bring firearms into the bars unless the bar n owner gave you permission, and so this law is going to e reverse that em faemphasis, and you can bring your gun into bar, if you have a permit, unless the property owner tells you to leave. now, with churches, before, it was illegal to bring the guns into churches, but the church leaders will be able to decide whether their congregations can bring weapons into places of worship. as for schools, this new law provides a framework for how the school boards can now authorize and appoint staffers to kcarry guns into schools, and as for the airports, as you mentioned, tamron, not only carry in the common areas of the airport, but you can also now, if you can take your gun accidentally, and you have a permit to take it accidentally to airport security, you can pick up the gun and leave without a criminal
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penalty. and you can also bring your gun if you have a permit into government buildings that are unsecure canned. in other words, that they don't have a security checkpoint. this is creating a lot of con e tr -- con trtroversy even within law enforcement community, and once he signs the bill, the law will take effect july 1st, tamron. >> the bill was unsuccessfully pushed in three previous legislative sessions, and you point out that it is a conservative region, but even still, i think that a lot of people would perhaps wonder why for example a gun would be allowed in a church or if someone brought a gun into the airport they would not face any criminal penalty, and even though who might certainly support the idea of allowing people to have a gun in some of the places listed outside is of for example a church?
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>> well, tamron, you bring up an interesting point. several polls have indicated that the majority of the georgians were opposed to this bill, but it was able to pass this year even though it had been brought up in previous legislative sessions, and they were able to get compromises on some of the controversial provisions like to carry a gun on college campuses. that was originally in the bill, and by the time it was passed, it had been taken out of the bill. and the grandson of jimmy carter who is running for governor as a democrat, he voted for this bill, who is the grandson of former president jimmy carter. this is a politically charged climate here in georgia and conservatives saw is it as a way to rally the base. as you mentioned, the nra has called it a historic victory for the 2nd amendment. t tamron? >> thank you, gabe. and there is a meeting that will
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be in the works since last month when senator paul ryan made comments about the culture of the inner city. this is what he said on a radio show with bill bennett. take a listen. >> we have got a tailspin of culture in our inner cities in particular of men not working, and just generations of men not even thinking about working. >> and joining me now is missouri democratic black caucus, and thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> and he said that he said nit an inartful way, and what do you believe he is trying to accomplish with this meeting? >> well, we have been holding these meetings every wednesday for the last 41 years now, and
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so we often will have a person to come in. marcia fudge, the chairperson runs a tight ship. we are going to have a candid conversation with congressman ryan, but you are going to find that at the end of the meeting that, you know, she will push the meeting so that there is going to be much more light than heat. i think that chairman ryan is going to be given an opportunity to explain what he said, but the problem though is that he was quoting charles murray who has been poring racist sewage into open ears for generations now, and he has been pushing the theories of the bell curve and white supremacy, and ryan quoted him, and as one of the authorities, and he later said that he didn't know about murray's background. well, you know, which suggests ignorance. and so if you know the least,
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you should not speak the loudest, and that got him into trouble, and that is what the people want to know, and does he embrace charles murray or not. >> and it is interesting that congre congressman ryan has said that he is confronted at a town hall meeting in wisconsin, his home state, and he says that there was nothing whatsoever about race in his comments at all, and as you point out, you are looking for more light than heat, and what part of the conservation discussing his budget proposal and many of the cuts hurt the poorest in this country. >> yes. first of all, let's go back. >> sure. >> look. there's nobody in the country who will not agree at a moment of truth that when you are using certain terms, it suggests race and inner city men suggest race. and chairman ryan i think knows that, and if not, i think that we are going to have to try to create an atmosphere where he can learn things. but clearly, barbara lee who is
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chairing the democratic caucus committee on poverty and members of off that committee are going to push him hard on the budget proposals. >> and congresswoman lee has said that the comments made by ryan were a thinly veiled racial attack that cannot be tolerated. i ges at the heart of what i want to understand from you is what is the goal here? ryan has said that in his estimation, there is nothing whatsoever about race, and i imagine that he is going to say the same thing hee, but the programs seen as anti-poverty programs that would hurt again the poorest in this country, and he said that there is a poverty trap, and we know that the debate where you stand and members of the congressional black caucus stands, and he is quite clear where he stands and many other republicans, and how does this meeting move the ball forward or does everybody walk away with the same ideas they had going in? >> well two, things, tamron. one, the meeting could resemble
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someone traveling down one of the country missouri roads which could, which could lead anyplace, and it could be a good place, and this could be the beginning of some serious and productive dialogue with chairman ryan. secondly, i think that, that it is important for mr. ryan to know that, you know, he has probably not had experiences with inner cities around the country or in wisconsin. i have checked with one of our members, and i mean, he probably doesn't know anything about people, african-american men or the latino men in the inner city and he does not know, and you mentioned the word trap. well, if you don't know, and speak about that which you don't know, you are going to be ending up in a mouth trap. that is where chairman ryan has ended up. we hope that he will come in, and listen to what we are saying. look, you can go down on the street corner in the dead of
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winter in my of the major cities and see men and women standing out in horrible weather catching buses to go to work. when you talk about the cutting the food stamps or the s.n.a.p. program, it is cutting benefits from the disabled, women and children, and most of the people who receive s.n.a.p. go to work everyday, but they earn minimum wage, and if you earn minimum wage, you are going to be making $15,000 a year, and in this country, $15,000 a year will put you in poverty. >> congressman cleaver, thank you so much for your time, and we are curious to see the results of this meeting after it is concluded. thank you, sir. greatly appreciated and always an honor the speak with you. >> sure. >> and coming up next on "newsnation" -- >> [ bleep ]. >> and police arrest 11 former around current prep students accused in a massive drug ring targeting some of the most prestigious schools. and security sin creased in
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nearly a dozen suspects are facing charges in what is called a stunning drug raid involving many of the state's top prep schools and colleges. nbc's stephanie goss has more on the bold operation that police say was in place. >> reporter: prosecutors say they called themselves the mainline takeover project. >> you are the [ bleep ] out of my face. >> reporter: and the inventory, that of budding drug lords. >> eight pounds of marijuana and three grams of hash oil, and 23 grams of cocaine and 11 grams of ecsta ecstasy, and over $11,000 in currency. >> reporter: what the prosecutors say they seized also included several firearms and one of them a loaded assault
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rifle next to a lacrosse stick. and true books on crime raids. >> this is not a gang, they were in business. >> reporter: police say that the alleged ringleader 25-year-old taught 18-year-old timothy brooks the tricks of the trade, and then he had five subdealers in high schools. >> they were encouraged to develop the business to sell at least one pound of marijuana a week. >> reporter: and investigators say that brooks encouraged dealers to make shure that the supply of pot never ran dry. and brooks, now that will never happen for the rest of my life, because i got you. scott, we will crush it. once you go tax-free, it is hard to go back. brooks, this last week has made me realize how much i love money. authorities say that the pair were former students at the haverford school and used the
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connections there and as youth lacrosse coaches to recruit, and the other suspects are seven adults and two juveniles. and prosecutors plan to carve out a monopoly of drug sales at some of the area's most prestigious schools, and one of the lacrosse students said that he had an injury which started his road down the way. >> he had an injury, and lost his way. >> well, neil scott is being held on $1 million bail, and all of the others, including timothy brooks are out on bail. >> well, the first lawsuit filed against federal express concerning that fiery bus crash earlier in the month. the mother of 17-year-old honor student killed in the crash claims that the fedex trucks have a history of catching fire, and she is suing for $100 million. and ten people including five high school students with were killed when a fedex truck
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crashed into their bus while they were going to visit a college. some say that the truck was on fire before it slammed into the bus, but some are blaming the bus company saying that it did not have adequate exit doors. >> and police say that a man broke into the national civil rights museum. the man broke into the lor rain m motel, and after the police were called, they found a man sleeping outside of the room where martin luther king jr. was assassinat assassinated. police charged that man with vandalism. >> and chris brown's assault trial in washington, d.c. has been delayed for months, and now he and his body guard are accused of punching a hotel guard outside of a d.c. hotel, but it was supposed to start today, but the judge delayed it so that chris brown's body guard could appeal the case on monday. >> and now a shock for students who co-sign a loan with the
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parent or the grandparent, because the feds are saying that the student may have to immediately repay the loan if the relative passes away. it is the "newsnation" gut check. and steve is back with "karma is a -- [ bleep ]" and steve schirripa will join us next to talk about the new show. ♪ i can do it all from my mobile phone ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ if i need some help i'm not alone ♪ ♪ we're all tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ we've got a place that we call home ♪ ♪ we're all type e ♪
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there's a lot going on this morning. here are things we thought you should know. a social media campaign by the new york police department backfired. the nypd encouraged people to post pictures of themselves with police officers using the #my nypd. the responses soon turned ugly when people started tweeting pictures like this one during the occupy wall street protests. the hash tag became the topic trending on twitter with more than 10,000 tweets an hour. the nypd put out a statement saying twitter's open forum, and
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dialogue is good for the city. more troubles for the irs. a new report by a government watchdog reveals that the agency handed out $2.8 million in bonuses to employees with disciplinary issues, including $1 million to employees who didn't pay their federal taxes. employees with tax problems also received permanent raises and thousands of hours of extra paid vacation. the irs said it has instituted policy to awarding bonuses to executives. time now for the "news nation" gut check. student loan borrowers who had a parent or grandparent are being told to pay the loan in full immediately when that relative dies, even if their payments are all being made on time. the fed issued an advisory this week warning students taking out private loans to pay for college to read the fine print. the consumer financial protection bureau said the
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default could happen automatically without notice or request for payment in full and can immediately be reported to the credit bureau. the feds say they are getting a lot of complaints for this practice. surprise. so what does your gut tell you? should students who take out private loans have to immediately repay them if their co-signer passed away? go and vote and we'll talk about it tomorrow. talking about this today. you've heard the saying, don't get mad, get even. now you can see both in the new scene of "karma" op investigation discovery. it's back for season two. the wise-cracking host, regular people get to exact their sweet revenge on anyone, a cheating husband, or no-good lying boss. a single mom came up with a genius plan to get her kids' dead-beat dad into custody. >> he's always wanted to be in a famous band and play in a movie. >> that's when the roos was
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developed between the bounty hunter and myself. >> they knew joshua would be all over this. the guy has an ego the size of hollywood. too bad for him that the script for this little blockbuster was written by karma. >> steve is here with us. not just saying it because we're part of the i.d. family, but i love this show. this is great. >> thank you. >> what attracted you to this idea? >> you know, i'm a big believer in karma. i think you do something bad, it comes around and bites you. i think if you do something good, good things happen to you. and so we came up with the idea, actually i would have liked real revenge, you know. these are light-hearted compared to other things on i.d. the show's doing great. it's on thursday nights at 8:00. it's a lot of fun. and we talk to all the victims. >> really? >> all the victims are on camera. these stories have been done. we found the stories and then we talk to them. there are some ingenious ways these people got back to the
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person who burned them. >> i love the one, the girls who put the jalapenos in the guy's car. >> and the fish. they met this new guy, separately, and they thought they met the greatest guy in the world. turns out he was playing both of them. the guy didn't know until the show aired last week that they did it. >> he learned from watching the show. >> exactly. he did not know. look, like this show, this week, the guy that walked out on his wife and kid, didn't pay child support. she caught the guy, he promised, please, don't put me in jail, i'll pay. he ran off again. got another bounty hunter, found him, with the roos that he's going to be in a movie with jennifer aniston. like a sucker, he fell for it. he went to jail. >> for some people who might say, come on, let bygones be bygones. some of these people areeand you
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want them to get it. >> listen, everybody gets screwed over every day. these people said, you know what, i'm not taking it, i'm not rolling over, i'm going to do something about it. get some self-satisfaction. very creative ways to get back at people. >> i have to talk about other things you have going on. we do miss "the sopranos," but life goes on. broadway, your singing career. >> "guys and dolls." >> why are you blushing now? >> you knew that would happen. "guys and dolls" one night at carnegie hall, with nathan lane, and a bunch of broadway stars. and now that i look back on it, it was a great experience. but the eight days rehearsal that we had, it was grueling. i woke up in the middle of the night, with a nightmare that i froze up onstage. >> are you kidding? you did that? i can't believe that. >> but it turned out, all's well. >> i love this because it's
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lunchtime after this, i'm having lunch. steve brings me his pasta sauce, two jars of it, and i'm like, steve, i thought you liked me. you don't bring a woman just a jar. where's my lunch? >> it's great. it really is. >> is this your recipe? >> it's my mother's recipe. we improved on it. it's uncle steve's, it's a little spicy. uncle steve's ny.com, get it online. it's good. it's gluten-free. it's good. >> uncle steve's. >> you'll like it. i promise you. >> okay. that does it for this spicy edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "andrea mitchell reports" up next. oh, this is so spicy! dad, why are you getting that? is there a prize in there?
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right now, on "andrea mitchell reports," guns galore.
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in georgia, this hour, governor nathan deal will fight a new law for licensed gun owners to carry their firearms in more places than you will believe. critics call it the guns everywhere bill. president obama was greeted by u.s. ambassador caroline kennedy in tokyo, his first stop on his long-delayed asia issue. starting off with a gourmet suchy dinner hosted by japan's prime minister. >> that's good sushi right there. and sneak peek. david letterman welcomes the next late show host to the ed sullivan theater as stephen colbert gets a look at his new digs. >> i will do whatever you have done. >> no, no, no. >> i will do whatever you have done. >> no, you don't want to do that. no. >> it seems to have gone pretty

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