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but to land right on it and do some experiments. ♪ so start your day off good with a coffee that's good cup after cup. maxwell house. ♪ good to the last drop >> although tonight is friday night. i am not sending you to prison. right now the president of the united states is in south korea, in seoul, actually saturday morning in seoul, already. president obama right now is about to address some of the 28,000 u.s. troops who are currently stationed in south korea. so, we're going to start msnbc special coverage of the president's live address to u.s. troops in seoul. >> the u.s. naval forces, korea, u.s. marine forces korea, special operations command. we have got our outstanding dod
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civilians. and we have our wonderful u.s. embassy staff here as well. yes! good job! in the house! and i know, and i know, we have got some outstanding spouses. [ cheers and applause ] and, and, family members, kids, in the house. and i want to -- and i want to thank you as well because you bear the burdens of service as well. whether it is separation from a loved one or transitioning to a new country. i just want you to know that america is grateful for your sacrifice and your service. now president park and i attended a briefing, led by -- general scaparatti with combined
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forces command. and i signed the guest book that sits on top of a table where the korean war armistice was signed. and, and -- both of those moments drove home the truth that after more than 60 years, our alliance is as strong as it has ever been. and as effective as it has ever been. and nowhere is that more evident than in the professionalism and interoperability of our militaries. even when he had to travel to washington to testify before congress last month he was never more than a phone call or teleconference away from the admiral. that's because our forces on duty here, american and korean, are highly trained closely coordinated fit to fight tonight and every other night. in addition to dealing with the threat from north korea -- this
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is also an alliance that represents the incredible bond between peoples. so sigh knnoe i know you provid response to last week's terrible ferry tragedy. we understand when our friend are in trouble, america helps. and our hearts are broken for our korean friends, especially the loss of so many wonderful young people. but we are inspired by the tales of heroism. and selflessness. the young woman who tried to make sure everyone else had a life jacket even if it meant her own death. the man whose last words were, "i'm on my way to save the kids." that's why america will continue to support every rescue and recovery effort. and it that spirit that allows this alliance to endure. [ speaking foreign language ] "we go together." that's what we are about. that's what we are about. that's been our common
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commitment for more than 60 years. in good times and in bad. it was 1950, just five years after the end of world war ii, when communist armies first crossed the 38th parallel. and at the time, many americans couldn't place korea on a map. but we knew as much as we had already given as wary as we were of war, that we had a stake in what happened here in the korean peninsula. and we had to roll back the tide of communism. that as americans we had to stand with our south korean friends. and then in september the americans arrived. the alliance we led with korean troops landed in a surprise attack. all told nearly 1.8 million americans would join the fight the next few years. the conditions were -- terribly difficult. the combat was brutal. the danger was close. by the end, nearly 37,000
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americans would give their last full measure of devotion on this faraway soil. but not without pushing the invading armies back across the line they had dared to cross. if you want to know what that hard-earned, long-defended victory looks like, you look around this country. the republic of korea. this country has risen from occupation, and ruin, and become one of the most vibrant and open democracies in the world. seoul, the city that has sprung up around this garrison, leads one of the most advanced and dynamic economies in the world. when our veterans witness this nation's progress, when our vet vans come here and see this great and modern country for themselves they can say with pride, their efforts and their sack rifice was worth it. they see the real results of what they have done. a south korea that is a world leader and a true partner in
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asian security and stability. they see a country like ours where children cannot only have dreams but those dreams are encouraged and he or she can grow up to become secretary-general of the united nations, or president of the world bank, or even ambassador from the u.s. to the country he was born in. none of this was an accident. freedom is not an accident. progress is not an accident. democracy is not an accident. these are thing that have to be fought for. and you are part of that legacy. they must be won. they have got to be tended to constantly. and defended without fail. and here on freedom's frontier they are. by every man and woman who has served and stood sentinel on this divided peninsula. the 38th parallel now exists as much as a contrast between
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worlds as it does a border between nations. between a society that is open and one that is closed. between a democracy that is growing and a pariah state that would rather starve its people than feed their hopes and dreams. that's not the result of a war. that's the result of the path that north core ckorea, confron, provocation, pursuing the world's most dangerous weapons. i want to be clear the commitment the united states of america has made to the security of the republic of korea only grows stronger in the face of aggression. our alliance does not waver with each bout of their attention seeking, it just gains the support of the rest of the world. north korea's continued pursuit of nuclear weapons is a path that leads only to more isolation, not a sign of strength. anybody can make threats. anyone can move an army. anyone can show off a missile.
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that doesn't make you strong. does not lead to security or opportunity or respect. those things don't come through force. they have to be earned. and real strength is allowing an open, participatory democracy where people can choose their own leaders and choose their own destiny. and real strength is allowing a vibrant society where people can think and pray and speak their minds as they please even if it is against their leaders. especially if it is against their leaders. real strength is allowing free and open markets that have built growing thriving middle classes and lifted millions of people out of poverty. we don't use our military might to impose these things on others but we will not hesitate to use our military might to defend our allies and our way of life.
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like all nations on earth, north korea and its people have a choice. they can choose to continue down a lenly ro onely road of isolat choose to join the rest of the world. choose a future of opportunity, security, respect. a future that already exists for the citizens on the southern end of the korean peninsula. and if they choose this path america, republic of korea and the world will help them build that future. but if they do not, they should know that the commitment the united states of america to the security and defense of the republic of korea has not wavered once in more than 60 years, it never has, and it never will. this alliance is special. forged on the battlefield. it has been fortified by the common values and mutual interests and mutual respect of our peoples.
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the united states and korea are more than allies, we are friend. this foundation of trust, security, stability that allows both of our nations to thrive economically, socially is made possible by the service and sacrifice of every within of you. our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines. you are the tip of the spear on freedom's frontier. you carry high the legacy left by all those who fought and served here and to the family members here and in south korea and awaiting your return back home. i thank you for your service as well. because of the service of generations, our country still stands. and our founding principles still shine. and nation's around the world that once knew nothing but bitter tastes of fear, now know the blessings of freedom.
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that's because of you. i could not be prouder to be your commander-in-chief. now i am going to come down and shake some hands and thank you in person. god bless you. god bless the republic of korea. god bless the united states of america. and god bless our alliance. thank you. >> and there you have it, president obama in seoul, south korea, it is already saturday morning there. just after 11:00 on saturday morning, president obama speaking for about 10 minutes there. addressing the, the thousands of troops who are stationed at the military garrison, president obama working the crowd as you can see now. peter alexander, nbc news white house correspondent has been traveling with president obama, and peter, we expected the president to talk about north korea. and mr. obama, wasted no time
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talking about north korea saying, at one point that any country can make threats, or show off an army, but that is not a sign of, of strength. >> that's right. i think the president wanted to reaffirm in the region the commitment to the security of south korea and some of the other allies here. especially given a series of territorial disputes taking place with china. but the effort to pivot as the white house has described it, to rebalance as they have put it in the past has been challenged really by a cascade of crises around the world. the latest one of which is what is taking place right now. on the border of eastern ukraine and russia. and just moments before the president took to the stage at the garrison we did see a new statement -- news statement from the white house speaking on behalf of the g-7 leaders, saying, specifically they would move swiftly with additional sanctions on russia. we are told by a senior administration official that we
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spoke to within the last several minutes, or so, that the new sanctions on russia will likely go into place as early as this coming monday. this follows, really what had been new tensions in that region. within the last 24 hours or so. we heard from the ukrainian prime minister who warned that russia was trying to start world war iii. russian troops have been getting even closer to the border. they have been pulsing that border by some accounts coming within 1,100 yards of the border with eastern ukraine. jets have been flying across the border as it has been described. and then late yesterday, pentagon, the pentagon secretary chuck hagel tried to reach out to his counterpart in russia. did not get a call back. there have been reports, vladamir putin has cut off talks with high level officials in washington. so that is the backdrop for the president's visit to this region. new concerns across the globe about exactly what russia's intentions are, what they will
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do next, having already annexed crimea, and these latest tensions indicating they may have future plans to. be clear, the understanding that we have now from senior administration officials, many of whom i spoke to late last evening here, friday night here, friday day for where you are, they said, that these will not be the sectoral sanctions, these will be sanctions directed towards putin's cronies. not putin himself. high level leaders he surround himself with. they will be the one whose are affected by this. the sectoral sanctions could have an impact on things likener gee, arms, banking. at this point it appears clear that, president obama who had conversations just last night with prime minister renzi of italy, and the president of france, and chancellor merckle of germany. there is not within europe at this time, the shared desire, perhaps, to go even further. it is really europe, craig, as you are aware that would bear the brunt in some ways of some
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of the sanctions because they're so closely connected to the russian economy. >> pete, want to go back to the president's speech and come back to crimea ein a moment. the medal of honor recipient is standing by and pat wreck mrick former congressman. >> we did not hear president obama during the 10, 12 minutes, to the troops, talk about china at all. we know right now in that part of the world in addition to the concerns that you just mention regarding north korea, that country, threatening its fourth nuclear test. china, a rising superpower, they continue to spend more on their military than they have in years and decades past. why no mention of china at awe duriawe -- at all during that speech? >> i think clearly the speech was intended as much as anything to show his appreciation and support for the troops here and praise the commitment the u.s. has the made over the years to south korea.
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to show that difference between south korea and its neighbor to the north, just yesterday, we heard from president obama who referred to, i guess two days ago, referred to the north korean regime led by kim jung-un, such an enigma his age is not known. president obama referred off to the regime as dangerous. reports from south korean officials that even in the course of the president's visit to this country which frankly will be wrapping offen ein the matter of hours, heads to malaysia. could be a fourth nuclear test. blessing is at this point we haven't seen that. on china, the white house says, our policy is not about containment. our policy is finding a good balance in here where everybody's interests are satisfied. >> turn to retired u.s. army colonel jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient. let's pick up with the news just been made here. the increased sanctions now on russia on vladamir putin. do we think at this point that additional sanctions are going
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to make a great deal of difference with regard to the conflict in eastern ukraine specifically? >> most people would be surprised if it does have an impact. they're already getting squeezed a bit, the economien russia is on a slide. -- a bit, the economy in russia is on a slide. friends of putin, will not have any positive impact on the outcome. >> there is very little doubt in anybody's mind that putin's objection is to take over as much of eastern ukraine as it can possibly get away with. he also understands that except for the economic instrument of power, there is not much else the united states is going to do -- and that indeed to use the economic instrument of power we will have to have concurrence of the european union who is, peter mentioned, is a little bit reluctant to get involved. because their economies are inextricably intertwined with that of russia, particularly in
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terms of energy. so just a limited amount of stuff we can do even economically. that's the first thing. second, putin knows we are not going to use the military instrument of power at all. so he feels pretty good about being as bold as he can possibly get away with. >> peter, quickly, his stop in south korea. on this -- saturday morning. peter alexander is gone. peter alexander left. colonel, help us wrap this thing up. let's talk how, what we are seeing in crimea may play out. general thoughts on how that situation may unfold? >> well, there are sort of duelling military exercises taking place at the moment with the united states demonstrating in western europe with ships, in the mediterranean, and 40,000 russian troops on the border, there is a significant number of special operations troops. russian special operations
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troops in, in ukraine. and -- that's really -- what, what, putin is doing. that will make it difficult if not impossible for the west to respond to it when you have got russian troops with masks on. trained special operations troops. working the crowd, in eastern, eastern ukraine. there is not much, militarily that anybody else is going to do. >> colonel jack jacobs, always appreciate your time. on a friday night. thank you, sir. and thank you to our white house correspondent, peter alexander, traveling with president obama in south korea. that south korean stop, president obama's second stop on a four-country swing through asia. he has malaysia left. he also has philippines as well. i will join you this afternoon here. we will have much more on president obama's asian tour. we will also talk a little bit more, little bit more of the news that was broken here a few moments ago. increased sanctions on putin, russia. lots more to get to here on
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>> inside the kent county jail, joe has had two years to find ways to pass time. he pled guilty to second degree murder and will eventually transfer to state prison. >> i still want to come home young. hoping to get out, maybe 20. 18 would be nice. i can do that. i got my mind set on that. but i want to know for sure. once i know for sure. i think i will be more at ease. be more at peace. >> his sentencing has been delayed while his co-defendant's trial drags on. so he does what he can with what little he has. >> i'll take the little teeth out of the combs. the package they come in for the noodles. i'll take that and make them in two. i take the staple and make a hole.
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just easy put them in there. and easy put it in my ear. makes you feel sort of freen a way. i'm not free. gives me a better feeling about being here. >> he says one thing he isn't feeling better about is leaving witnesses behind the night he murdered another man. according to prosecutors, he met the man at the home of a mutual female friend to sell him drugs. >> i should have killed the lady and her son. i didn't. i just left. when i got -- calling me a ruthless killer i have no remorse. and if i didn't have no remorse and i was a ruthless killer, i would have killed that [ bleep ] and i would have killed her son. >> do you regret not shooting them? >> absolutely.
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i wouldn't have been here if nobody pointed me out. >> now housed in a single man segregation cell because of a fight he was involved in, he has plenty of team to ponder past decisions. steven sutherland is around other inmates. for him that carries a risk. for any one to know i used to be a deputy here. could be potentially dangerous for me. i've am in a medium high security area, where the inmates are potentially going to prison for, 15 years to life. if it was ever perceived that i was part of the system, somebody may take advantage of that. >> 20 years earlier, sutherland was a kent county sheriffs deputy and was assigned to the jail in which he is now housed. he tries to keep that a secret. because with ex-law enforcement officers go to jail they're often targets for attack.
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>> one inmates knows. we talked. and he needs to keep it private. i made it clear to him. later he was telling another deputy that i used to be a -- when i told you not to say anything to anybody. i meant anybody. because deputies will talk too. >> to make matters worse, sutherland is charged with criminal sexual conduct against of a minor, which is another reason other inmates would target him for violence if they've found out. >> so i try to just keep a low profile. i have to be onguard. it could be stressful at times. but i have gotten so used to it. it becomes natural for me to, to put on a different persona. to act out the charade, i guess. >> while some jails isolate inmates like sutherland in
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single person cells where they have virtually no contact with other inmates. that's not the approximately po county. >> sex offenders are housed, individual basis, interviewed and how officers feel they would do in certain areas. basically they go into general population. there is no specific housing area that segregates them. >> are we going to set our expectations to the other inmates out there you are going to live with this guy you. are not going to torment him. you are not going to make life difficult for that person. if you do then we will deal with you. and this guy is going to stay. and you are the one that is going to end up in segregation. >> there has been an incident involving sutherland and an in mate. in this case, sutherland is not the victim. coming up. steven sutherland its accused of harassing an inmate in the showers all. haw i didn't know what to do. i was like, dude, what the heck is going on. he said, it's not gaichy.
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i'm frances riviera. president obama spoke to thousands of u.s. service members stationed in seoul, south korea. he thanked those serving and called south core carkorea a fr the u.s. highlighting the u.s. commitment to allies in the region. the u.s. plans to impose sanctions on russia. russia expanding military exercises along the border with ukraine. a week ago it signed a deal in geneva deciding to ease tensions with the border. now we take you become to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ ♪ o say can you see
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♪ by the dawn's early light ♪ what so proudly we hailed ♪ at the twilight's last gleaming ♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars ♪ ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming ♪ ♪ and the rockets red glare ♪ the bombs bursting in air ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪
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♪ o say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave inside grand rapids kent county jail, captain demery is nearing the end of a 25-year career. he says much of what influenced him came from his old job. >> this is what i went to school for. i have a theology degree and i had a couple churches in south dakota when i first got out of college. kind of got involved in the jail business out there.
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i figured out i was more suited for corrections work than the ministry. i still see this as my life's work. this is my ministry. it's not just a job. it's never been just a job for me. it's not natural to keep human beings in cages and not natural to be the human being keeping somebody else in a cage. and there's something about that unnatural environment that causes the people who are the keepers of the cage to take some psychological steps to make that easier on them to the point to where you don't see them as humans at all. i tried to consciously fight against that tendency. hopefully i modelled that for some of the people. it is possible to spend your career in corrections and not treat inmates like dirt and not treat these people like trash, but to have compassion and
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sympathy and understanding for what the families go through. >> and families usually go through a lot. >> hi, we're here to see victoria groth. >> can i check your i.d., please? >> sure. my name is carol groth, i'm here with my daughter, jessica, we're here to see my other daughter, her sister, victoria garage. she's been in jail for the last few months. we come to see her every couple weeks and she seems to be doing okay. >> vicki groth is back for larceny, in this case stealing christmas gifts for the children much a friend and returning them to the store for cash. >> previous to this she has stolen from jessica, she has stolen from me, she has stolen from her older brothers also. hopefully being here will have made a difference and keep her out of trouble when she gets out. >> groth describes herself as a cleptomaniac, but labeled herself something else. >> i got this tattoo when i was 17 years old. it says loser. >> do you feel like a loser? >> no, not at all. >> why did you get loser tattooed? >> it is unique. i'm famous for it.
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let's put it that way. >> i felt sorry, like why would you get that. >> obviously no, i am not a loser. i graduated high school with a gpa of 3.5. i'm not dumb, but i'm still in jail, so -- it was that life, growing up i got looked at because my family was white. i got treated different by my sister's dad because i am half black, they're all white, i wasn't really his kid. i just dealt with that. i used to get teased at school. i cried. i cried a lot. >> hey. >> hi. >> how you doing? >> good. >> that's good. you're looking good. >> thank you. i'm tired. i slept all day today. >> what did you do that for? >> i'm tired. >> you'll be out soon. you need to get your sleep schedule the right way. >> she came in here, was having a lot of issues with stuff, just
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a lot with family and everybody just not getting along. >> i am hoping to get out on monday. >> that would be cool. i have to work monday, though. >> if you ask her to get something out of your purse, she would take something without noticing, you would notice it is in her pocket later. >> she has done it ever since she was this tall. so it was something that started when she was a kid. i got the ceiling painted. >> did you? is she painting? >> no. she sleeps all day while i paint so she's not in my way. it put me in a bind last year when i already bought an air conditioner for $300 and she turned around and stole that, so i had to use rent money for that month and buy another air conditioner. >> i don't know, it is weird for me having a family member that i can't trust, you know. >> i just read a thing in the paper that says that just remember, when you don't take a shower before you go to bed, everything you got in contact with you is going to bed with you. the reason we don't talk about her stealing from family through the visit, i don't want her to go back to her cell depressed and not have anybody to talk to. >> i read 30 cards before i picked that one. >> did you?
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>> i had to get one that would give you a laugh. >> i started to laugh. i brought it to breakfast to show people. >> before she was sentenced this time, she called me on the phone and she wanted to know if i would consider her moving back in with us so that she would have a stable place to live. i told her at that time i would have to think about it. i am concerned she will go back to what she was doing before, stealing stuff and then i'll be screwed. >> love you. >> love you, too. >> see you soon. >> all right. bye. >> bye. that's it. >> i hate where i'm at right now. choices i made were pretty stupid choices. everything could have been prevented. if you have choices, nine times out of ten i pick one that's the worst. >> why? >> i don't know. if i knew the answer to that, i wouldn't do it. >> steven sutherland also
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acknowledges making bad choices. once a deputy at the kent county jail, he is now an inmate with numerous prior convictions. sutherland is currently charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor, but now he faces new troubles. after staff received a pair of kites, jail slang for notes written from inmates. >> we received two kites from two different inmates regarding inmate sutherland. common subject between the two kites was that inmate sutherland was making inappropriate comments to the inmates. >> 20-year-old zack was charged with assault to which he pled not guilty is one of the inmates that reported sutherland. >> i was sitting there in the shower and had my back faced like the other showers and all of a sudden, i felt something hit my back, i turned around, there was a huge thing of soap. two seconds later, see his hand come around the shower, threw a bunch of soap at me. at first i was confused. i was like did that really just
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happen? i didn't know what to do. i was like dude, what the heck is going on. he's like, it's not gay, it's just jailing. >> i said, hey, if we all share a shower, it will save water, it's just jailing. and that was what it was. and he wrote a kite saying i made him feel uncomfortable. and i was so angry because they were joking before i got up there, him and another inmate, about oops he dropped the soap before i even got up there. it is just the horseplay that goes on when you're in an all male facility in an area like that. >> the second time he came over, he is like hey, we are in the shower together again and all this. then he started talking about the jail wants us to save money, so we should shower together and use the same soap and same towel. at that point i was like, this
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is ridiculous. this dude is an actual predator. >> did you make a comment? >> in jest, we all did. it was going on before i went up there. it's something that the guys -- jail is a lot like a men's locker room. there's comments constantly. >> i used to play scrabble with him all the time. i kind of quit playing scrabble with him. he would make jokes all the time about other guys. at first it was a joke. then i found out what he was in here for, then i started putting things together. it ain't cool, man. >> it got serious to us, like how it kept going on and on, this dude is serious about what he's saying. >> sutherland has temporarily been moved to a single man cell in another unit until staff can determine if disciplinary action is warranted.
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>> the policy when we receive a kite like that is to assign the investigation to the floor officer where the kite originated, and that's what i did. >> in the meantime, all sutherland can do is wait and try to amuse himself. >> this is what i had up on my cell upstairs. it goes on here like this. it gets boring. you have to have a little fun. coming up -- >> yesterday when i came back from court, i was eating dinner, he told me through the door. >> joel leija hears from his co-defendant and the news clears the way for his long awaited sentencing. >> inmate sutherland knows me and i think he was trying to play on that during our hearing, bringing me back to the days when we worked together. tried to work on my feelings. >> an officer hands down a decision on his former colleague and soon after so does the judge.
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even though joel leija pled guilty to second degree murder for shooting a man six times in the face, he has been in a state of limbo with kent county jail. his judge cannot issue final sentence and send him to prison until his co-defendant's case is resolved. it's dragged on for more than two years, until now. >> just lost trial yesterday. it was real sad news. i couldn't enjoy the meal when he came back from court, i was eating dinner, told me through the door, it is over, you know. he is just letting me know. he's at peace, you know. it happened. for his part. he wants to follow god. people come to jail and they find god.
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my faith ain't that strong really, it's not that strong. i am always going to be a mobster and i don't regret it, i don't, because i had a good time. >> leija is now cleared to be sentenced and it is likely to be soon. steven sutherland, who 20 years earlier was a deputy here at the jail, is facing disciplinary action in the jail for allegedly making inappropriate comments to another male inmate in the showers. the sergeant, who worked with sutherland when he was employed here, was assigned to investigate the accusations. they came in the form of two kites or notes from two different inmates. >> inmate sutherland knows me, i think he was trying to play on that during our hearing, calling me by my first name, kind of bringing me back to the days when we worked together, tried to work on my feelings. and i recognized what he was trying to do.
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>> if an officer was to say that i'm using my connections to get special treatment, i would say, you know, look at where i'm at. this is my second time to the hole. hasn't worked out so well if that's the case. >> i did question him on specifics of his involvement and found consistency in his statements with what was written in the kites. i found him guilty of a category 2 violation of making inappropriate comments to other inmates. with a two, there's a ten-day cell restriction, where the inmate is moved from the general housing area where he was to our discipline segregation unit. >> i am angry because they know, aim the guys around them know, the deputy that did the investigation knows, it just wasn't true. but the sergeant, who likes to write paper, got excited about it. he had made up his mind that i was guilty before he came down based on words, not intent.
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and that was my biggest thing, was, you know, when people joke and say things, that doesn't make that intent. >> one week later sutherland would be dealing with something far more serious than horseplay bringing his case to a close. he reached a deal with prosecutors to plead no contest to first degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor. sutherland was sentenced to 9 to 15 years in prison. >> it's tough, you know, it is someone you've worked with, you hung out with, talked with in the locker room and then, you know, years later, you're opposite sides of the fence. >> deputy perdue was a rookie at the jail when sutherland worked there as a training officer. >> it ain't going to be easy, not going to happen overnight but, you know, sooner or later maybe you get your life back to where it was before all this happened.
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>> yeah, if not, back where it was, at least as i finish out this life with some normalcy. >> yeah, definitely. >> within the next week or so, a transport van will take sutherland to a state prison to serve his time. >> well, there's a saying to do the time, don't let the time do you. it's just a statement of, go with the flow. you know, you read, you play cards. you make the most of it. you're here. deal with it. sometimes that's hard but until you do, you know, life is really tough. and for me with all of the issues that i was having
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personally, i could be maybe in a different program that would be nicer than this, but this is probably still better than me being on my own right now. i hate to say that but -- >> sutherland's upcoming transfer to state prison is fine with at least one inmate. >> honestly, i don't want him to get out in the world again, or even with someone else in the jail. because that wasn't right. obviously i can shower in peace now, not having to worry about him coming up every time i try to shower. coming up -- >> i'm very proud that i came to this jail at a time where the corrections industry in general was moving away from a culture of violence. >> a retiring captain reflects on 25 years of change. and a gang member finds out what his future holds. >> mr. leija, anything further you'd like to say before i impose sentence? your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain. this is humira helping me lay the groundwork.
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captain randy demery says he has seen a lot of change over the course of his 25 years at
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the kent county jail in grand rapids. >> i'm very proud that i came to this jail at a time where the corrections industry in general but even this jail in particular was moving away from a culture of violence and a culture that demeaned the inmate population, toward a culture that treats everybody with dignity and respect and humanely, and understanding that the inmates have their own set of problems that they present us with, but they're all humans and they all need to be cared for as human beings. >> jail officials say one way they do that is to be responsive to inmate reports of threats or harassment. >> zack is one of the inmates who wrote one of the kites alleging issues with inmate sutherland. he's still in the same housing
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unit as he was. just wanted to let him know that we're there if he has any questions or any other issues. just a well-being check, just to make sure he's okay. >> hey, zack. >> how you doing. >> good. just want to make sure you're doing okay. are you having any other issues? >> no. it's been quiet. >> the pod is good. >> yeah, yeah, a good pod. >> as far as how it was handled, did we handle it quick enough for you? >> yeah. i think an hour, hour and a half after i wrote the kite he was so i was pretty surprised how fast. >> the kite that you wrote got our attention immediately, with the new prea standards that the correction facilities have to abide by, any suggestions of inappropriate conduct we look at real serious. and that's the main reason why we took action as quick as we did and looked into it, did an investigation. interviewed you at least once or twice. okay, thank you very much, guys. >> thanks.
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>> a different sort of drama now plays out for joe leija. >> i'm going to get sentenced today. i'm ready to get it over with. i don't have to apologize to the victim's family, but i'm going to. i think it looks better, shows i am sorry. >> move it, everybody has to fit in there. >> make me realize the damage i have done to this family. i have a lot of regrets. this is one of the biggest ones i have is to kill somebody, you know. i'm going to have a lot of family in the courtroom. my parents are going to be there, my mom, my dad. my aunt, my uncle, my brothers and sisters. it makes it way easier for me. >> as the proceedings get under way, the victim's mother takes the podium and reads her statement to the court. >> i still don't understand why you had to pump six bullets into my son. it just goes to show what a cold-blooded killer you really are. it seems to me taking a life came way too easy for you. now i wonder how many other
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lives you may have taken with no remorse. you didn't just shoot a person, you shot my son. you took a very big part of our lives away and that piece of the puzzle will always be missing. i hope you rot in prison for the rest of your life. even that will be too good for you. brad didn't deserve to die the way he did. he died a very violent and lonely death. no one should have to die that way. rot in hell, mr. leija, that's exactly where you deserve to be. you need to be off the streets so you can't hurt anybody else. i pray the court agrees with me and you get life in prison. >> when the victim's mother is finished with her statement, leija has an opportunity to read his apology. >> mr. leija, anything further you'd like to say before i impose sentence? >> no, your honor. >> so mr. leija, mandatorily on felony firearm, it's the sentence of this court that you be committed for two years to the michigan department of corrections. consecutive to that and on second degree murder, it's the sentence of this court,
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mr. leija, that you be committed to the michigan department of corrections for a term of not less than 22, no more than 75 years. i'll advise you, mr. leija, this is a final sentence of judgment of the court. you are entitled to file application for leave to appeal. >> love you, mama. >> i was working on an apology, but i didn't appreciate what she said. i understand she wrote it to me, okay. but it's different when you read it out loud in front of all those people. i'm definitely not giving you an apology now because you was out of line when you said that. i understand you want to express yourself, that's your right. i'm not going to tell you sorry though. i was planning on it. that ain't going to happen no more
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ a got that body bag swag ♪ throw him in the trunk >> i write very violently and i write about murder and killing things. >> an inmate that writes and raps on stage is in jail for assaulting his girlfriend and is about to return to the streets. >> how did a become a

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