>> that is -- on that note, that is all for today. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." when ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance you just let them talk. >> coast to coast, even overseas outrage continues over the racist remarks allegedly made by the owner of the l.a. clippers. a short time ago hr of the audiotape emerged. we'll play it for you and talk about what with comes next. and i will talk to a guy who played for donald sterling. also, powerful thunderstorms and potential tornadoes threaten at least 15 states in the mid section of the country today. million miss the heartland are are bracing for dangerous twisters that could hit later today.

>> we were pinching ourselves on the way down. i'm speechless. absolutely speechless. >> pope francis elevateded two giants of the church to sainthood. we'll go there live. and they are best known for the white hoods, robes and more than a century of racial terrorism. now the kkk is looking to expand and rebrand. they could be coming to your neighborhood soon. a lot to get to on a sunday afternoon. i'm craig melvin. let's start with another big story we are tracking. shock and outrage today. not only inside the world of professional sports but around the world as well. over the racially charged comments allegedly made by los angeles clippers owner donald the sterling. it all started when a recording emerged yesterday on tmz's

website supposedly capturing sterling and a woman tmz said was sterling's girlfriend talking about her instagram feed. this is part of it. >> people call you and tell you that i have black people on my zblam and it bothers you? >> yeah, it bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. >> nbc news has not authenticated that exchange. since the tape surfaced reactions have been pouring in from former players, leaders. even president obama. >> i don't think i have to interpret those statements for you. they speak for themselves. when ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance you don't have to do anything. you just let them talk. that's what happened here. >> no one p from the clippers management has gone on camera. there is a staple saying we have heard the tape on tmz.

we do not know if it is legitimate or if it has been altered. the team says mr. sterling is emphatic that's what reflecteded on the record arie inareing is consistent with nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or tealings. it is the antithesis of what believes. he feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributeded to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them. a new recording acquired by dead spin.com which alleges this is the same exchange, just more of it. take a listen. >> i don't understand -- i don't see your views. i wasn't raised the way you were azed. >> well, then if you don't feel -- don't come to my games. don't bring black people and don't come. >> do you know that you have a whole team that's black that plays for you? >> you just -- do i moe? i support them and give them food, clothes and cars and

houses. who gives it to them? does someone else give it to them? >> you can hear the rest of deadspin.com. nbc has not authenticated the tape. the clippers are just moments away from taking on the golden state warriors in game four of the first round playoff game. joe pryer is outside or rab areal arena for us this sunday afternoon. is sterling going to be at the game? >> the nba says sterling will not be at the game today. a lot of fans are here crowding into the arena. moments ago we heard from the coaches from both teams. the clipperses' coach, doc rifrs, says he doesn't know how this will impact his team. he says some playerses might be okay with it. others may not perform well in the wake of what happened. let's will be to what coach rivers had to say.

>> you say you are confronting this. how are you confronting this ? w >> we have talked. we're playing. that's our message. the one thing i learned is if our message doesn't vibe with yours it doesn't mean yours is right. our message is to play. we're going to let no one or nothing stop us from what we want to do. i think that's a good message. i do. that's the message we are trying to send. if we can pull this off all the way that would be a terrific message. >> mark jackson, coach for the warriors says this doesn't just affect the clippers. he said it affects the league including his players and said his team is in meetings to discuss the situation. as for fans some called for a

boycott of clippers games but argues say that's punishing the players. >> joe fryer outside the arena for us in oakland. lorraine is the president of the n a, acp. set to give a lifetime achievement award to donald sterling. this morning you announced that's not happening. here is the thing. sterling has a checkered history of. former players accused him of racist behavior. "sports illustrated" saying the justice department presented evidence in a 2009 housing discrimination report against sterling alleging he made statements indicating that african-americans and hispanics were not desirable tenants. he settled the suit for nearly $3 million without admitting wrongdoing. why would the naacp choose to honor sterile pg in the first place?

>> thank you for having me on. we have to do a better job of vetting. he's been probably a generous person, interested in helping the association in l. are a. that stands to reason. >> are you saying he essentially bought the award -- >> no. >> that the organization because he gave money to the naacp? >> not at all. he's a gregarious guy. he did what he did for the right reasons and purposes. we have to be more thorough and careful in looking at folks we

give lifetime achievement awards to. this happens across the krimt our branches every year that we give lifetime achieve ment awards. they try to vet them. we probably should have gone a little bit more thorough. >> what does the naacp plan to do in the wake of the disclosures. >> well, the los angeles branch will not be giving mr. sterling a life achievement award in the next few weeks. >> we have asked them to consider rescinding the 2009 reward he receive ared also. >> i want your take on doc rivers, coach of the los angeles clippers saying there was not going to be a boycott. they were not going to take the court but he indicated it would

send a powerful message if they could win the championship. do you think the individual player or so coach should have taken action before today's game? >> you know what? i'm not a particularly astute sports fan. i'm a cowboys fan. >> we won't hold it against you. >> i don't want to speculate. i have no earthly idea except to say we have to call out racist people and their actions when we see them. you can't allow it just to go unnoticed, unaddressed. >> yeah. >> so we feel quite strongly. that's one of the things we want to do is call this out for what it is. but honestly, i think it's a

little above that. one of the things that really concerns the naacp is that have we -- there is a question that we should be asking. has america fulfilled the obligations that we had that were given to us since the emancipation proclamation? meaning if every american has equal opportunity does every american have equal access to the law? if we can say that and with all honesty, then those are the tenets that make america who we are. the institutions we revere and the constitution that we hold dear to our way of governing. >> all right. >> if we can say yes to those questionses then we are moving forward in trying to eradicate

racism in the society. i sit here today and i don't think so. >> that's what the naacp will be about. >> thank you. do appreciate your time. more on the story in a few minutes. we want to talk to former clippers player charles smith in a few minutes. we want to turn to the other developing story. parts of 15 states across the country. mid section are preparing for what could be the worst tornado outbreak of the season. kansas city power and light serves people. 700 chers don't have power in oklahoma city. severe weather delayed their marathon several times as severe weather rolled through. in many places it's been a weekend of wickeded weather. friday, six tornadoes damaged 200 home and businesses in north carolina. one of the tornadoes was the first ef-3 of the season. the weather channel's mike

seidel is in north little rock, arkansas. one of the areas that's expected to get hit hard. let pe me start here. what are the areas facing the biggest threat? >> you're watching the storms begin to explode over the past few hours. an active situation now. we have numerous tornado watches in effect. this is the area we are focused on. the red shadeded kwar, the bull's eye. that's where the tornadic storms could pop later on across arkansas. you can see a large portion of the middle of the country under the threat for severe weather now. we have three separate tornado watches. one for nebraska, missouri and the latest tornado watch issued now for arkansas where conditions are becoming more favorable for the development of the long track super cell thunderstorms that could spawn tornadoes. here is a closer view. you can see the line of damaging storms pushing east of kansas

city. we had a tornado warning with this particular group of storms earlier. now looking at the threat of wind damage. the storms are racing for columbia. eventually springfield and st. louis. this is a jog further south to arkansas. storms so far have been weak. we haven't seen as much in the way of powerful storms. the storms have the potential to form tornadoes well into the evening and over the next few days. the severe weather will continue for the next couple of days. >> thank you. we are going to check in later in the show. now we turn to mike seidel who is live for us in north little rock, arkansas. i know you guys had some storm there is before sunrise. what have you seen since? >> so far we have had little, if anything. we have an overcast sky looking south and west.

that's the direction the storms will come from. there is a cap on the development. we expect ta to break as we go through this afternoon. we are under a tornado watch. most of the state of arkansas until 9:00 this evening. some of the storms could produce tornadoes. they could be strong meaning ef-3 or higher. remember the top end scale ranking of 3 is 150 miles an hour. we have been fortunate so far all year. we have had just over a hundred tornadoes. the first ef-3 on friday. no fatalities from tornadoes. we want to keep the streak alive. this will be a long term affair. tonight, tomorrow, mississippi, louisiana, and the threat will head in towards georgia in the southeast tuesday up to the midatlantic by wednesday. this is a four-day severe weather outbreak we are following. it will impact millions of people. stay with the weather channel, with your noaa weather radio.

we want to get through the next four days without loss of life. keep everybody safe. keep in mind some of the tornadoes will occur after dark. that's worst time. people go to bed and they can't see him coming. >> thank you. >> former clippers forward charles smith will join me. also a major shake up in south korea's in the wake of the deadly fer ary disaster. mans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy?

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the audio recording posted by tmz is offensive and disturbing. we intend to get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible.

>> that was adam silver the commissioner of the nba. the clippers are and from the president himself had been outraged. i want to bring in charles smith, a former forward for the clippers. he's the ceo of the pro basketball alumni association. thank you for being with me. i want to play an a additional recording that's said to be that of donald sterling and the woman who is his ex-girlfriend. take a listen. >> i don't understand -- i don't see your views.

i wasn't raised the way you were azed. >> well, then if you don't feel -- don't come to my games. don't bring black people and don't come. >> do you know that you have a whole team that's black that plays for you? >> you just -- do i know? i support them and give them food, clothes and cars and houses. who gives it to them? does someone else give it to them? >> you spent four years with the clippers. is that the donald sterling that you knew? is that the donald sterling you worked for? >> those comments unfortunately that's the donald sterling i use ared to work for. mr. sterling is a different kind of guy. there is no doubt about it. >> what do you mean? >> his history speaks for itself. sterling owns the first piece of property he ever purchased. he doesn't change much. he does things his own way. he has his own way of thinking. you deal with the circumstances and things and the player of his

ball club when you're in the organization. you come in and you know the history. you hear about it and you go with the flow. >> sounds like you're saying you knew when you played for him that he was a racist. >> no. i'm not saying he was a racist. i'm saying he did things his own way and he had his own way of thinking. this way of thinking is shocking to be. there are other things that were off-color a little bit. >> would you ever hear him say things and be like, really? >> no. just things, for example, you go to -- there was a party at his home and there were a lot of children and families there. a woman pops out of a cake topless. it was shocking, surprising. everybody laugheded. that's how he was.

he did things his own way. >> we heard from magic johnson. coming out and saying sterling would be forceded to sell the team. nba legend michael jordan who we don't usually hear from when it comes to controversy in the league. he said if part, quote, there is no room in the nba or anywhere else for that kind of racism. i am appalled that this type of ignorance exists in our country nnd in a sport where the majority of players are african-american. we cannot tolerate discrimination at any level. what should the league do now? >> i mentioned earlier ta we talk about the players boycotting and doing different thing. when you boycott, picket, march you do it to bring awareness to a situation. thanks to technology this thing is viral and has had a global

impact. what should the league do? the league needs to address this the best way they can for a permanent solution. he continues to own the team. will this go away? no. it will come back. if he's suspended for a while it will still come back. people will remember this. this incident is something that's shaking the fiber in the nba which ises a global league. it will be interesting to see what they do. >> sounds like you think he should sell. >> i can't say that. for the statements he paed if he sticks around the league this issue will remain around the league. >> let's talk about the league for a second. the nba generally gets high marks for racial diversity. 76% of the players are african-american. 47% of head coaches are black as well. four african-american ceos in

the league. is what we have seen unfold in the last 24 hours or so, is this an anomaly? >> there is always going to be situations where you can do better. in business, life, dealing with people. i think the situation has raised a lot of eyebrows to what may be the thinking of sterling and how he's run the ball club. >> in my experience sitting across from owners and the nba you don't get the idea or the thought process that this exists. even ted leons i have talked to in d.c. these are solid guys. you wouldn't think anything like this would remotely come from their mouths or thought processes.

this is isolated and it needs to be kraesed. >> we didn't get a chance to talk about jackson and the knicks. we'll do it next time. >> you got it. >> in idaho, a navy vet is mourning the death of her late wife but madeline taylor is mourning something else. the veterans cemetery where taylor hopes to be buried refuses to bury are her with her wife's remains. our friends at now this news took a look at the story. listen. >> i'm not surprised. i have been discriminated against for 70 years. they may as well discriminate against me in death as well as life. i it's not taking up any more space to have us both in there. i don't see how the asheses of a couple of old lesbians will hurt anybody. i'll have the paperwork and both of our ashes in someone's care

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developing right now we continue to keep a close eye on the potential for severe weather this afternoon. in just the past few minutes a likely tornado has touched down in nebraska. wnbc meteorologists have been tracking the storms. what a difference 15 minutes makes, huh? >> that's right. this is a rapidly evolving situation. right now reports of a spotted tornado in nebraska. you can see south of i-80 here. a tornado watch was issued. now a tornado on the ground. spotted by spotters there south of i-80. thankfully this is mainly rural. that's the good news south of i-80. the tornado watch throw showers a threat for tornado is real. we are seeing the the threats continue across iowa as well. a line of storms through des moines now. nothing severe. but a severe thunderstorm watch has now been issued for eastern iowa including davenport as the storms race to the north and east. missouri has been the bull's eye, the center of the wind damage here moving through columbia, kansas city and

springfield. this line of storms is headed toward the northeast and arkansas under the tornado watch. we'll keep a close eye on the situation through the evening. the potential is there for tornado activity around little rock and pine bluff. this is day one of probably a three-day severe weather event. getting very busy here continuing into the nighttime. craig? >> thank you. we'll continue to watch the weather here and update you as conditions warrant. right now we turn overseas. new tensions in the ukraine. the tensions continue to dominate president obama's trip to asia despite new ukrainian army checkpoints pro russian separatists seized control of regional state tv. nbc news has not been able to confirm that report. president obama in malaysia today said the world must stand firm against russian aggression toward ukraine. take a will be listen.

>> collectively us and the europeans have said that so long as russia are continues down the path of oh provocation rath arer than trying to deescalate there will be consequences. they will continue to grow. >> i want to bring in congressman engel, ranking member of the foreign affairs committee. just returned from ukraine. let's start with president obama. there is talk about consequences. what kind of consequence is he the talking about? what consequences do russia face? >> talk thing about sanctions. what putin is doing is dangerous. the world cannot sit by. if the world does, nato is dead. nato has to react. there are countries in the area that are worried about putin stirring up russians in the country. >> are are the stiffer sanctions which are going to take effect,

can they change the calculus. >> iran is now sitting down and negotiating with the united states in the west. we imposed sanctions on them. the sanctions hurt their economy. they are essentially brought to your knees and russia will face the same if putin continues the aggression. >> you got back from the crew yan. i understand you spent time traveling to the contested eastern part p of the country. you met with ethnic russians there. what did you see and hear? >> certainly amongst the people of ukraine, they are all frightened and very much oppose ed to what putin is doing. i think this is putin trying to make a move. i think the nato alliance and the west cannot let that happen. this crisis is made up.

>> what do you mean? >> putin invaded crimea, took it over and said the russian-speaking population was being maligned, marginalized and that was nonsense as far as i can tell. >> the same claim being made thousand in eastern ukraine. >> that's right. the people i spoke with in eastern ukraine don't seem to feel things are happening the way putin tells them. he's continuing his aggression. >> if he moves into eastern crew yan and attempts to annex that part of the country, then what? >> i think tough sanctions have to kick in. we can sanction the russian banking industry, mining indust industry. certainly industry that provides power, energy. those are are the industries we can target and they can hurt. putin has to make a choice. >> this administration's foreign policy has been tested on a number of fronts. ukraine is the most recent

example. the trade deal with japan that fell through. no reports of chemical weapons attacks in syria. the complllapse of mideast peac talks. this is what benjamin netanyahu said this morning. >> i think the united states has been indispensable in the peace negotiations. i appreciate secretary kerry's unbelievable efforts. they don't always succeed. >> how are these set backs going to affect the credibility of the obama administration on matters of foreign policy? >> each incident sinks or swims by itself. i don't think one is a set back to another. we face troubling times. we now have negotiations with iran. the syrian civil war continues. we have to be careful about countries like egypt. the president wants to pivot toward asia. it's a very important place.

we have treaties with allies like japan, south korea. they are always being tested. the president is the leader of the free world. he knew what the job was and he's being tested. trying to best he can. >> thank you for stopping by. >> thank you. >> pope john xxiii and pope john paul ii are saints now. pope francis made the declaration today in front of hundreds of thousands in st. peter's square in a ceremony that was unprecedented with retired pope benedict xvi also in attendance. claudio, good to see you,s as always. first of all, set the scene for us. what was it like in that square today. >> well, craig. that was really a once in a lifetime experience. half a million pill grams packed st. peter's square and the

surrounding area. in an area around the vatican that could barely fit half of them comfortably. 300,000 more watched on giant screens in rome. 800,000 watched an event that's never really taken place in the history of christianity. making of two saints on the same day. two popes that were two of the most popular popes in the 20th century, pope john paul ii and pope john paul xxiii. what's more interesting is to preside over it all there were two living popes. of course oh pope francis and his predecessor. they embraced during the ceremony. it was kind of a show of unity for a catholic church that was badly rocked by the announcement of the resignation of pope

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you might see someone new at your neighborhood summer block party -- the kkk. the ku klux klan sent out these flyers to people in fairview township, pen alerting them that they were moving in. they insist they aren't there to cause any trouble, instead they are forming a neighborhood watch. you can see the flyer reads, in part, "you can sleep tonight knowing the. klan is awake." jamal boo 'louoy looked into th slate. you write about the klan, an attempt to rebrand itself. your headline "the cku klux kla can't change its image but it is good to know it is trying." the neighborhood watches seem to be spreading.

are the intentions neighborly though? >> i'm not sure. what are they watching for? are they watching for black people? is that the idea of the neighborhood watch by the ku klux klan? throughout history the klan has attempted to rebrand itself as something that can be more open to more people and this is generally a trend for white supremacist groups in general. after the 2008 economic collapse you saw white supremacy groups throughout the country attempt to present themselves as kinder, friendlier, more gentle. and this had is because they recognize that sort of the public atmosphere for people like them is absolutely poisonous. i'm not surprised that the klan is doing neighborhood watches or in virginia, i believe, a white supremacist group handed out candy eggs during easter. but it's not going to be successful. >> so they're trying to present themselves as not your grandfather's kkk? is that what we're really -- >> i think that's exactly what

it is. i guess the marketing strategy is to say, hey, look, back 50 years ago we may have been known for burning crosses and assassinating civil rights leaders but today we just want to make sure your neighborhood is safe. which is ridiculous and won't work. but i think it is important to recognize the extent to which groups like this are trying to rebrand themselves and smuggle themselves into the mainstream so we be aware of them and call them out when we see them. >> the kkk was back in the news a couple weeks ago when one of its former leaders shot and killed a community leader. kansas city. people say we saw this coming, why wasn't this man arrested before. but if you're speaking hate and not acting on it how far does the first amendment go in terms of protections? >> i mean it goes all the way. if you're simply speaking hate, no matter how vile it is, you have total first amendment protections. it is when that hate speech begins to go into active planning, goes to announcing

your intention to harm people that you may run in to trouble. but hate groups can say whatever they want. that's sort of the beauty of the country. can you say whatever you want and the federal government is not going to come down on you. >> there's nothing cheesy about that. thank you so much. of slate magazine. thank you, sir. thank you, as well, for watching on this sunday afternoon. "disrupt" with karen finney is up next. i imagine, my friend, you are going to continue the conversation about mr. sterling. >> how did you know? what a lucky guess! yes. i'll have the reverend al sharpton here on set to talk with me about what he thinks that the nba should be doing. you will not want to miss it. it is going to be quite a conversation. >> that's just moments away. again, i'll be back next weekend, next saturday, 2:00 eastern. i'm craig melvin. i'll see you then. right now though, stick around for "disrupt" with karen

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thanks for disrupting your afternoon. i'm karen finney. and yes, there is a new tape reported to be more of l.a. clippers' owner donald sterling espousing his views on race in america and it could be even uglier than the first one. >> the owner of the los angeles clippers facing a stompl controversy accused of making racivity remarks caught on tape. >> tmz post wlad it says is an audio recording between a conversation. recording has not been verified by nbc news. >> yeah, it bothers me that a lot that you want to promobroadcast that you're associating with black people. >> i don't think i have to interpret those statements for you. they kind of speak for themselves. >> we intend to get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible. >> if you're silent about this, then you are accepting this. >> it upsets